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Based on the news that I read they drop that bomb in ISIS base but I hope theirs no big number of innocence that died their because of that bomb Yes, I hope no civilians die as a result of dropping this kind of weapons. Let just ISIS died and spare those innocent. But ISIS is known for using human shield because they know that if innocent people die, US will be condemn but other countries and more Muslims will use this as an excuse to put hatred in US and other countries that support US. Why only ISIS? The tactics of human shields used by the Germans and the Russians during the second world war. The same tactics Putin uses the capture of the Crimea and the Donbass. Sometimes it is better to sacrifice the lives of 10 people, but to save the lives of thousands.
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Based on the news that I read they drop that bomb in ISIS base but I hope theirs no big number of innocence that died their because of that bomb Yes, I hope no civilians die as a result of dropping this kind of weapons. Let just ISIS died and spare those innocent. But ISIS is known for using human shield because they know that if innocent people die, US will be condemn but other countries and more Muslims will use this as an excuse to put hatred in US and other countries that support US. Why only ISIS? The tactics of human shields used by the Germans and the Russians during the second world war. The same tactics Putin uses the capture of the Crimea and the Donbass. Sometimes it is better to sacrifice the lives of 10 people, but to save the lives of thousands. So how many civilians lived in the taliban tunnels up in the mountains? Care to give us insider informations? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Russian bots at it again.
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April 14, 2017, 04:52:06 PM |
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Some people speculate..
1) Maybe it has to do with the financial infrastructure of the global munitions business. No longer an industry segregated by countries, today the same groups collaborate on profiting from both sides of a war.
BLU-82B costed 20.000 USD back in it's days. Has been good enough against Tora Bora, Afghanistan GBU-43/B comes like 14.600.000 USD there is some visible incline in pricings Pricings for Tomahawks resupply currently rising, multiplied by numbers needed (<30% hit rate) Not that much of a war against terror anymore, more like a war against budgets
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April 14, 2017, 11:20:49 PM |
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Some people speculate..
1) Maybe it has to do with the financial infrastructure of the global munitions business. No longer an industry segregated by countries, today the same groups collaborate on profiting from both sides of a war.
BLU-82B costed 20.000 USD back in it's days. Has been good enough against Tora Bora, Afghanistan GBU-43/B comes like 14.600.000 USD there is some visible incline in pricings Pricings for Tomahawks resupply currently rising, multiplied by numbers needed (<30% hit rate) Not that much of a war against terror anymore, more like a war against budgets Something in the last people who live in different countries, have become very politicized, as a result of hatred of people and everything around them. I do not think that the world will last so long.
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April 15, 2017, 11:18:32 AM |
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Uneducated bunch of silly sig spammers ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) And I see you around here in the forum, discriminating people. How's your Finland? I was under the impression that you live there when you told off people in another thread to not go there and suck off your welfare simply because they expressed a desire to visit it at least once. Maybe you really deserve those immigrants...
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April 15, 2017, 12:32:05 PM |
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Afghan authorities Saturday reported a jump in fatalities from the American military's largest non-nuclear bomb, declaring some 90 Islamic State fighters dead, as US-led ground forces advanced on their mountain hideouts. "At least 92 Daesh (IS) fighters were killed in the bombing," Achin district governor Esmail Shinwari told AFP on Saturday. Shinwari insisted there were "no military and civilian casualties at all".
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April 15, 2017, 12:42:37 PM |
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They're going down for sure under Trump's administration.
I think actually the same, that mr.Donald Trump will finally vanquish the terror that ISIS is doing on many continents through last years. Many people still say for some reason, that US has created the ISIS , but I cannot understand why would they spend resources now, and possibly start war with Afghanistan ( because of the GBU-43 bomb ) to eliminate ISIS soldiers, when they are under their jurisdiction? Makes no sense for me, but If someone knows something about that theory, then I would be very glad to hear an explanation. I assume that Trump decided he has enough of ISIS terror, so he decided to grow some fear among his enemies, that he is not scared of consequences, even when bombing other country places.
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April 15, 2017, 01:49:27 PM |
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Afghan authorities Saturday reported a jump in fatalities from the American military's largest non-nuclear bomb, declaring some 90 Islamic State fighters dead, as US-led ground forces advanced on their mountain hideouts. "At least 92 Daesh (IS) fighters were killed in the bombing," Achin district governor Esmail Shinwari told AFP on Saturday. Shinwari insisted there were "no military and civilian casualties at all".
i find that too good to be true as the scale of this bomb most likely would take several civilians with it. It's sad that in order for us to eliminate these terrorists, civilians who have done nothing wrong would have to be affected. And these people most likely are looking to the us for help
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April 15, 2017, 01:55:18 PM |
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Afghan authorities Saturday reported a jump in fatalities from the American military's largest non-nuclear bomb, declaring some 90 Islamic State fighters dead, as US-led ground forces advanced on their mountain hideouts. "At least 92 Daesh (IS) fighters were killed in the bombing," Achin district governor Esmail Shinwari told AFP on Saturday. Shinwari insisted there were "no military and civilian casualties at all".
i find that too good to be true as the scale of this bomb most likely would take several civilians with it. It's sad that in order for us to eliminate these terrorists, civilians who have done nothing wrong would have to be affected. And these people most likely are looking to the us for help There is no punishment without guilt. Why are these civilians allowed to have their country ruled by terrorists. And who are these terrorists? Did the children of these civilians join the ranks of the terrorists. Each person must answer for their action or inaction.
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April 15, 2017, 02:01:30 PM |
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I read about it and they spent millions on just 1 bomb and God knows if it killed only terrorists or civilians. Trump did what he said and it's the worst decision ever made. Bombing won't do anyone good and if they want a surgical strike, they should only target the terrorist and not civilians.
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April 15, 2017, 02:33:11 PM |
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I read about it and they spent millions on just 1 bomb and God knows if it killed only terrorists or civilians. Trump did what he said and it's the worst decision ever made. Bombing won't do anyone good and if they want a surgical strike, they should only test its weapons to target the terrorist and not civilians.
Its sad to see that US has taken these countries as a testing ground for their weapons.Now Russia may follow the same path and test its weapons in some other country.
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April 15, 2017, 02:34:30 PM |
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The US is very aggressive lately, I don't like that.
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April 15, 2017, 02:55:01 PM |
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The US is very aggressive lately, I don't like that.
The US has been aggressive ever since the end of the WW2, and that was almost 7 decades back. During this time period, they have invaded or intervened in more than 70 different nations (at a rate of 1 country per year).
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April 15, 2017, 02:59:39 PM |
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The US is very aggressive lately, I don't like that.
The US has been aggressive ever since the end of the WW2, and that was almost 7 decades back. During this time period, they have invaded or intervened in more than 70 different nations (at a rate of 1 country per year). More aggressive than usually then. I agree with you.
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April 15, 2017, 04:38:08 PM |
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Many people still say for some reason, that US has created the ISIS , but I cannot understand why would they spend resources now, and possibly start war with Afghanistan ( because of the GBU-43 bomb ) to eliminate ISIS soldiers, when they are under their jurisdiction? Makes no sense for me, but If someone knows something about that theory, then I would be very glad to hear an explanation.
The US neither "created" nor "control" ISIS. But there does exist some storyline about the initial formation days pointing back at detention camp "Bukka". If you collect suspected islamic extremists in a war zone and place them into a camp they will start to recognize each other, and how many they are. They state for themselfes that has been their moment of formation, but maybe other stories are floating around too.
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April 15, 2017, 04:46:21 PM |
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Uneducated bunch of silly sig spammers ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) And I see you around here in the forum, discriminating people. How's your Finland? I was under the impression that you live there when you told off people in another thread to not go there and suck off your welfare simply because they expressed a desire to visit it at least once. Maybe you really deserve those immigrants... Na. Do you really think people living off a sig campaign and who barely speak english are your typical european traveller? Really? 99% of people posting here are some bots that just want to push their post counter for the sig campaign. And if these people will come here the first thing they want will be welfare. In relation to the US we in europe have unlimited welfare.
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April 15, 2017, 11:41:50 PM |
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Uneducated bunch of silly sig spammers ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) And I see you around here in the forum, discriminating people. How's your Finland? I was under the impression that you live there when you told off people in another thread to not go there and suck off your welfare simply because they expressed a desire to visit it at least once. Maybe you really deserve those immigrants... Na. Do you really think people living off a sig campaign and who barely speak english are your typical european traveller? Really? 99% of people posting here are some bots that just want to push their post counter for the sig campaign. And if these people will come here the first thing they want will be welfare. In relation to the US we in europe have unlimited welfare. Here really with your incomes not to argue. Europe really went far by social standards, even in contrast to the US. Although the states also have their own successes. But I want to say one true thing that if someone does something or writes something, then this has a definite purpose.
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Uneducated bunch of silly sig spammers ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) And I see you around here in the forum, discriminating people. How's your Finland? I was under the impression that you live there when you told off people in another thread to not go there and suck off your welfare simply because they expressed a desire to visit it at least once. Maybe you really deserve those immigrants... Na. Do you really think people living off a sig campaign and who barely speak english are your typical european traveller? Really? 99% of people posting here are some bots that just want to push their post counter for the sig campaign. And if these people will come here the first thing they want will be welfare. In relation to the US we in europe have unlimited welfare. Here really with your incomes not to argue. Europe really went far by social standards, even in contrast to the US. Although the states also have their own successes. But I want to say one true thing that if someone does something or writes something, then this has a definite purpose. Sure. There are people who lie to support their agenda. There are people who just dont know or dont understand. There are people who are just too lazy to research and investigate certain topics. And then there are 50-75% of non sense posting sig spammers that i really dislike.
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April 16, 2017, 12:17:17 PM |
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The US is very aggressive lately, I don't like that.
The US has been aggressive ever since the end of the WW2, and that was almost 7 decades back. During this time period, they have invaded or intervened in more than 70 different nations (at a rate of 1 country per year). The world is cruel. You forget that in all these conflicts, always on the opposite side fought Russia. In the same Afghanistan the first troops entered the Soviet Union. Lately I'm more worried about the aggressive policy of Russia than of America. Both of these countries brought a lot of grief in the world. Maybe when Russia will disintegrate will no longer such a confrontation, and the world will be safer?
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April 16, 2017, 05:42:41 PM |
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Uneducated bunch of silly sig spammers ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) And I see you around here in the forum, discriminating people. How's your Finland? I was under the impression that you live there when you told off people in another thread to not go there and suck off your welfare simply because they expressed a desire to visit it at least once. Maybe you really deserve those immigrants... Na. Do you really think people living off a sig campaign and who barely speak english are your typical european traveller? Really? 99% of people posting here are some bots that just want to push their post counter for the sig campaign. And if these people will come here the first thing they want will be welfare. In relation to the US we in europe have unlimited welfare. Well you don't need sig campaigners to ruin everything for you. I don't believe you'll be forced to retain any overstaying tourists, you can always deport them. The refugees though... you already shipped them into your country and forced to care for them. Those are not leaving anytime soon. Either you'll increase tax even higher (I believe in some countries it's already 50%) or reduce benefits to stretch the limited money. Sorry for telling you you deserve this. I just find it sad that by the time I'm probably already well-off to travel, Europe would no longer be recognizable. Guess I'll just have to save to travel to another Asian country. Hopefully further ASEAN integration would make the fare cheaper. BTW you mentioned bots. Is that even a thing in forums? I thought they only exist in games.
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