Will "satoshi" ever login again?

[Dalkore]

billionaires don't post on forums

He's not a billionaire yet!

There will never be a Bitcoin Billionaire.

I call on that statement.  I believe we will eventually have a Bitcoin Billionaire.

[SAQ]

I don't know why everyone is so obsessed with Satoshi.

What would his return achieve? Nothing!

What disadvantage could there be to his return right now? Well, he might commit suicide and his body be found with two bullets at the back of his head. Or you know he could be charged with rape based on the accusations of some ex cia pretending to be a bitcoin enthusiast who changes her mind about having sex a week later.

Leave the guy alone for the time being. If he is absolutely needed - unless he is dead - I am sure he will provide help one way or another. Until then, no point of him to show up just for 100000 posts of thank you and you are my hero etc. He knows all that.

[DeeSome]

I don't know why everyone is so obsessed with Satoshi.

What would his return achieve? Nothing!

What disadvantage could there be to his return right now? Well, he might commit suicide and his body be found with two bullets at the back of his head. Or you know he could be charged with rape based on the accusations of some ex cia pretending to be a bitcoin enthusiast who changes her mind about having sex a week later.

Leave the guy alone for the time being. If he is absolutely needed - unless he is dead - I am sure he will provide help one way or another. Until then, no point of him to show up just for 100000 posts of thank you and you are my hero etc. He knows all that.

People should be obsessed by Satoshi.

If Bitcoin is, as looks likely going to change the world of banking and economics and possibly how governments are run, what if the bitcoin code was developed by a government agency?

I find this scenario more likely given the way the financial institutions of the West, Fed/BOE/ECB/IMF seem hell bent on an economic apocalypse.

[BitcoinFlush]

I don't know why everyone is so obsessed with Satoshi.

What would his return achieve? Nothing!

What disadvantage could there be to his return right now? Well, he might commit suicide and his body be found with two bullets at the back of his head. Or you know he could be charged with rape based on the accusations of some ex cia pretending to be a bitcoin enthusiast who changes her mind about having sex a week later.

Leave the guy alone for the time being. If he is absolutely needed - unless he is dead - I am sure he will provide help one way or another. Until then, no point of him to show up just for 100000 posts of thank you and you are my hero etc. He knows all that.

That actually makes a lot of sense. His return in Bitcoin could only hurt the project

[BitcoinFlush]

People should be obsessed by Satoshi.

If Bitcoin is, as looks likely going to change the world of banking and economics and possibly how governments are run, what if the bitcoin code was developed by a government agency?

I find this scenario more likely given the way the financial institutions of the West, Fed/BOE/ECB/IMF seem hell bent on an economic apocalypse.

Even if they did then this will be an example of the pupil outgrowing its master.

[jdbtracker]

I agree, No offence Satoshi if you read this.  but Has anyone read the wisdom of the crowd?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wisdom_of_Crowds

It would be clear that the repository of information of a single individual or even their ability to act in the world would be quite limited as a single individual.
An individual is limited as to how many things they can know, do or understand at a given moment.

and anyway, i don't think Satoshi would want to come back now, they definitely would become a martyr a central focus for the governments to torment.

Trust me, A few years back my dad had a flat rate taxi service, there was a lot of these little companies around, one guy even spent 150k just to do a feasability study as he was instructed to do and proved that it was feasible to implement... he got shot down of course. now if you read the little stickers on the taxi cabs... you'll notice that there is a notice that flat rate taxis are prohibited by by-law.

The government began to crack down on all 200 companies in the province of British Columbia citing that they were affecting the taxi cab industry and the job loss was intolerable... over 100,000 people lost their jobs in one fallow swoop of a pen. My dad was lucky enough that he fell under a Grandfather clause, he had made the first company with the model that other taxi companies followed.  They continued their assault relentless, he even got papers through freedom of information with citations on how they were going to screw him over... well they succeeded, started attacking his business from every angle that they could after that, lawyers wouldn't even take the case for fear of going against the government, saying this had little chance of succeeding it would be in the courts for decades.

I've lived long enough to see this happen over and over again... and it's nothing but a paragraph in a news paper buried under advertisements, no help will come.
All the little old ladies, the poor,and down trodden complained about the injustice, for 3 dollars they could go anywhere in the city, and be helped in unpacking their groceries, bring friends to places they could barely afford to go, and not wait out in the cold Canadian winters for a bus... their cries went unheard in the newspapers.

Satoshi would be crucified or worse..., If they did that to my Dad... can you imagine what the world governments would do to them? They don't care about the good that people do, they just want their money.

(If you think I'm putting too much info, if they come after me it is quite meaningless, Bitcoin has no central authority, and clones are popping up everywhere, their efforts would be wasted on me, though I am sure they'll find a solution and start implementing their own Bitcoin type system... so quite meaningless. They'll find a way to destroy it as they did my father.)

[drawingthesun]

I agree, No offence Satoshi if you read this.  but Has anyone read the wisdom of the crowd?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wisdom_of_Crowds

It would be clear that the repository of information of a single individual or even their ability to act in the world would be quite limited as a single individual.
An individual is limited as to how many things they can know, do or understand at a given moment.

and anyway, i don't think Satoshi would want to come back now, they definitely would become a martyr a central focus for the governments to torment.

Trust me, A few years back my dad had a flat rate taxi service, there was a lot of these little companies around, one guy even spent 150k just to do a feasability study as he was instructed to do and proved that it was feasible to implement... he got shot down of course. now if you read the little stickers on the taxi cabs... you'll notice that there is a notice that flat rate taxis are prohibited by by-law.

The government began to crack down on all 200 companies in the province of British Columbia citing that they were affecting the taxi cab industry and the job loss was intolerable... over 100,000 people lost their jobs in one fallow swoop of a pen. My dad was lucky enough that he fell under a Grandfather clause, he had made the first company with the model that other taxi companies followed.  They continued their assault relentless, he even got papers through freedom of information with citations on how they were going to screw him over... well they succeeded, started attacking his business from every angle that they could after that, lawyers wouldn't even take the case for fear of going against the government, saying this had little chance of succeeding it would be in the courts for decades.

I've lived long enough to see this happen over and over again... and it's nothing but a paragraph in a news paper buried under advertisements, no help will come.
All the little old ladies, the poor,and down trodden complained about the injustice, for 3 dollars they could go anywhere in the city, and be helped in unpacking their groceries, bring friends to places they could barely afford to go, and not wait out in the cold Canadian winters for a bus... their cries went unheard in the newspapers.

Satoshi would be crucified or worse..., If they did that to my Dad... can you imagine what the world governments would do to them? They don't care about the good that people do, they just want their money.

(If you think I'm putting too much info, if they come after me it is quite meaningless, Bitcoin has no central authority, and clones are popping up everywhere, their efforts would be wasted on me, though I am sure they'll find a solution and start implementing their own Bitcoin type system... so quite meaningless. They'll find a way to destroy it as they did my father.)

Your right, the sooner people realize that Governments are all about money and power the better. Too many naive puppies thinking the Government is working with your best interests in mind.

Satoshi would be wise to stay out of the fight ahead, he would be too easy a target especially with the millions or even billions he will eventually have.

[jdbtracker]

Your right, the sooner people realize that Governments are all about money and power the better. Too many naive puppies thinking the Government is working with your best interests in mind.

Satoshi would be wise to stay out of the fight ahead, he would be too easy a target especially with the millions or even billions he will eventually have.


It's not the governments... Psychopaths gravitate towards positions of power, they aim for these jobs and function within the shadow of the government.
some psychopaths own companies and convince with a smile and a wave these politicians to do their bidding. It is sad to think only 130 individuals control
who gets chosen to be elected.

read this and watch the TED talk that explains part of the problem.

http://blog.ted.com/2013/04/03/how-we-can-make-elections-about-the-people-not-just-funders-an-excerpt-of-lawrence-lessigs-new-ted-book-lesterland/

[Deslock Darkstar]

This has probably been discussed elsewhere, but what's with the domain name registration for bitcointalk.org? I would assume that Satoshi is the original registrar of the domain, but maybe has handed that off to others, in part to protect his identity? If not, than he is still involved in as much as he re-registers the domain every couple of years or whatever... if that's the case, then he might always jump back into the fray since he's paying to keep the board operating?

(yeah, I know I can do a whois search, but... #1 I'm feeling lazy this morning and... #2. half the time I do those searches, the results don't tell me much because it some corporate name that registered the domain.)

Bitcoin will become the new "One World Currency" because of a huge world financial fiasco and Satoshi will come out of hiding and be called a hero and "unite" the world together and throw in his stash of BTC to "help" perhaps as the antichrist? 

Hey,  it is a thought anyways.

Back during the big price climb a few weeks ago, Max Keiser did a a report where he referred to Satoshi as "Satoshi The Cyber-Christ".....

"Christ has returned.... and he's got Bitcoins!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_t39jCXXIrY


 

What disadvantage could there be to his return right now? Well, he might commit suicide and his body be found with two bullets at the back of his head. Or you know he could be charged with rape based on the accusations of some ex cia pretending to be a bitcoin enthusiast who changes her mind about having sex a week later.

Nice Julian Assange Reference. :-D

I agree, No offence Satoshi if you read this.  but Has anyone read the wisdom of the crowd?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wisdom_of_Crowds

It would be clear that the repository of information of a single individual or even their ability to act in the world would be quite limited as a single individual.
An individual is limited as to how many things they can know, do or understand at a given moment.

and anyway, i don't think Satoshi would want to come back now, they definitely would become a martyr a central focus for the governments to torment.

Trust me, A few years back my dad had a flat rate taxi service, there was a lot of these little companies around, one guy even spent 150k just to do a feasability study as he was instructed to do and proved that it was feasible to implement... he got shot down of course. now if you read the little stickers on the taxi cabs... you'll notice that there is a notice that flat rate taxis are prohibited by by-law.

The government began to crack down on all 200 companies in the province of British Columbia citing that they were affecting the taxi cab industry and the job loss was intolerable... over 100,000 people lost their jobs in one fallow swoop of a pen. My dad was lucky enough that he fell under a Grandfather clause, he had made the first company with the model that other taxi companies followed.  They continued their assault relentless, he even got papers through freedom of information with citations on how they were going to screw him over... well they succeeded, started attacking his business from every angle that they could after that, lawyers wouldn't even take the case for fear of going against the government, saying this had little chance of succeeding it would be in the courts for decades.

I've lived long enough to see this happen over and over again... and it's nothing but a paragraph in a news paper buried under advertisements, no help will come.
All the little old ladies, the poor,and down trodden complained about the injustice, for 3 dollars they could go anywhere in the city, and be helped in unpacking their groceries, bring friends to places they could barely afford to go, and not wait out in the cold Canadian winters for a bus... their cries went unheard in the newspapers.

Satoshi would be crucified or worse..., If they did that to my Dad... can you imagine what the world governments would do to them? They don't care about the good that people do, they just want their money.

(If you think I'm putting too much info, if they come after me it is quite meaningless, Bitcoin has no central authority, and clones are popping up everywhere, their efforts would be wasted on me, though I am sure they'll find a solution and start implementing their own Bitcoin type system... so quite meaningless. They'll find a way to destroy it as they did my father.)

Your right, the sooner people realize that Governments are all about money and power the better. Too many naive puppies thinking the Government is working with your best interests in mind.

Satoshi would be wise to stay out of the fight ahead, he would be too easy a target especially with the millions or even billions he will eventually have.

drawingthesun and jdbtracker, I like the way you two think....

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=184953.0


You know, that's one thing I like about this board versus most other places I visit on the internet.... the people here seem to be much better informed that the average person.

[Devawnm367]

billionaires don't post on forums

He's not a billionaire yet!

There will never be a Bitcoin Billionaire.

I call on that statement.  I believe we will eventually have a Bitcoin Billionaire.

I love looking back through old post!!! I hope you went all in on this bet like you said lol.. Because at todays prices if Satoshi is holding 980,000 BTC He would be worth in upwards of $10 billion dollars!!! That is only half of the current All Time High of $20,000. In late 2017 He would have had 20 Billion dollars...  I wish I knew about bitcoin in these days... My life would be way diffrent then it is now!!!!

[kawetsriyanto]

Do you think "satoshi" will ever just randomly log in one day and post something?

Is it an answerable question, mate?
I just wonder if not only people, maybe even he doesn't know the answer. Except, Satoshi has planned to leave temporarily and will be back someday. Because of the reason, I think this will be endless to discuss. When you think have got some good answers, then you are better to lock this thread.

Anyway, theymos has answered the question. So, there is no reason to continue this discussion.

Do you think "satoshi" will ever just randomly log in one day and post something?

His account is locked, so no. If he wants to claim his account, he'll have to contact me with a PGP signature.

[Gi01]

Do you think "satoshi" will ever just randomly log in one day and post something?

It seems as if that would be the only way for "satoshi" to ever be proven to be who he is.

I don't really think that its not really necessary for Satoshi to come out to prove to anyone that he is this individual or that person. I really don't understand why people want to know the identity of Satoshi. If he wanted to be known, he would have provided that information long time ago.

[Devawnm367]

Do you think "satoshi" will ever just randomly log in one day and post something?

It seems as if that would be the only way for "satoshi" to ever be proven to be who he is.

I don't really think that its not really necessary for Satoshi to come out to prove to anyone that he is this individual or that person. I really don't understand why people want to know the identity of Satoshi. If he wanted to be known, he would have provided that information long time ago.

To be completely honest I do not care who Satoshi is, My biggest question is why has he not touched any of his bitcoin in 10 years? What are his plans. Does he still have access to all of the Private keys.  

I really feel he has left all the Bitcoin sitting just to make a valid statement on just how hard it would be even with every private key in the world listed on several websites to actually find a wallet with Bitcoin in it. I kinda feel he has left the bitcoins sitting as like a reward if you can find it you can have it.

It just goes to show how secure his project really is!

But at the same time. Who would not want to cash out at around $20 billion dollars when BTC was at $20,000? A couple of thousand dollars is ALOT to me... If he has access why has he not touched them.. Has he been living off of coins he mined once he announced it to the public?  Does he even need the money or is he waiting until Global Recognition, 1 million per coin? lol

[Lapatai]

As I mentioned in another post, my belief that Satoshi is the creator of Pokemon, because Ash's Ketchum original japanese name is Satoshi and there are 21 million pokemon in that world. My best guess that Satoshi name is Satoshi Tajiri

[Jating]

As I mentioned in another post, my belief that Satoshi is the creator of Pokemon, because Ash's Ketchum original japanese name is Satoshi and there are 21 million pokemon in that world. My best guess that Satoshi name is Satoshi Tajiri

Stop with this assumption, I'm sorry but I don't understand how you can connect pokemon to the man himself.

If i was Satoshi i would never enter the forum again. Because he has now money and he kept his identity hidden. I would probably just live my life out.

Well perhaps that's what Satoshi wanted to be, he wanted to stay hidden from the prying eyes of the government that's why he remain anonymous up to this day. However, someone out of nowhere claims to be Satoshi, but common sense tells us that he is as fake as Craig Wright. He was good though at linking the pieces together, but I doubt that those who have been involved in bitcoin believed him.

[mazdafunsun]

Do you think "satoshi" will ever just randomly log in one day and post something?

It seems as if that would be the only way for "satoshi" to ever be proven to be who he is.

I think that it will never happen. It would be too dangerous for him, the whole world would be after him.
This is not the only way to prove his identity beyond any doubt BTW, he can move his BTC.

[coin-investor]

Do you think "satoshi" will ever just randomly log in one day and post something?

It seems as if that would be the only way for "satoshi" to ever be proven to be who he is.

I think that it will never happen. It would be too dangerous for him, the whole world would be after him.
This is not the only way to prove his identity beyond any doubt BTW, he can move his BTC.

Theymos already stated that his account is locked and he needs a signed PGP to prove that he is Satoshi, and about moving the Bitcoin, there's no hint that he still owns his private key, but there's a guy who comes out that claims to be Nakamoto, and he also claims that he lost his private keys.

Login on his account here is out of the question, movements from his wallet seem to be unlikely as there is still no hint that he can move it, the theory that he does not own the private keys to that wallet is strong.

[Kakmakr]

Login to what?

If you mean that he would login to this forum or any one of his accounts on any other platform, then that would not mean that it is actually Satoshi Nakamoto signing into that platform. We know someone "hacked" his Bitcointalk.org profile before and they posted nonsense and then Theymos locked his account.

I think if Satoshi Nakamoto wanted to communicate with us, he would have signed a message from one of the early Bitcoin addresses and convey his message in that way.  

Will Satoshi do that in the future? My guess is probably not, because that will open up a whole can of worms.  

[SirLancelot]

Everything about satoshi is still kept secretly till date and we may never really know if he has truly lost his private key or not according to the claims that people are making, which I have never really heard of except based on the claim that one of these impersonators made claiming to be satoshi and writing some full story of his live that he has cooked up from months which really never mix up.

I am sure that one day, satoshi will still be able to log in when he is ready to show himself to the world, those who are impersonating him are only giving him more respect and keeping people in suspense, everyone is eager to know who satoshi is till date even the government himself, and the time he comes out, he will b a super start that everyone wants to see, so I believe this is why he wants to still remain silence with his access to his coin and to any platform he has control over before including this forum.

[1Referee]

the theory that he does not own the private keys to that wallet is strong.

It's the most likely one for sure. It doesn't happen all that often where someone sets up a project that becomes succesful and nothing of the founder's shares are sold. Back then Bitcoin was a mere experiment that got a little bit of attention and a monetary value. No matter how convinced of Bitcoin's success people were back then, most of the holders did cash out a portion of their holdings.

Another (slightly less probable) theory is that Satoshi was/is so convinced of Bitcoin's long term success, that he won't be touching any of his coins until it becomes a unit of account. This will make him the wealthiest person on earth.