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April 25, 2013, 12:41:23 AM
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Does anyone have contact info for the owner of Blockbet.net?  I am owed 172.1 BTC for 8 winning wagers placed last Saturday.  The site went offline early Sunday morning.
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April 25, 2013, 12:47:59 AM
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Does anyone have contact info for the owner of Blockbet.net?  I am owed 172.1 BTC for 8 winning wagers placed last Saturday.  The site went offline early Sunday morning.
Wow- How many bets did you make that day?
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April 25, 2013, 12:52:45 AM
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I had 15 bets total on the day.

I'm down around 100BTC overall since starting betting with Blockbet.net in March after hearing a few months of positive reports.  This theft is just unconscionable.
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April 25, 2013, 01:14:02 AM
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    Domain WHOIS Look-up

    Whois lookup for Blockbet.net.
    [Querying whois.internic.net]
    [Redirected to whois.webnic.cc]
    [Querying whois.webnic.cc]
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    Domain Name: BLOCKBET.NET
    Registrar: WEB COMMERCE COMMUNICATIONS LIMITED DBA WEBNIC.CC
    Whois Server: whois.webnic.cc
    Referral URL: http://www.webnic.cc
    Name Server: NS1.OFFSHOREDNS.CO
    Name Server: NS2.OFFSHOREDNS.CO
    Name Server: NS3.OFFSHOREDNS.CO
    Name Server: NS4.OFFSHOREDNS.CO
    Status: clientDeleteProhibited
    Status: clientTransferProhibited
    Status: clientUpdateProhibited
    Updated Date: 29-dec-2012
    Creation Date: 29-dec-2012
    Expiration Date: 29-dec-2013

    >>> Last update of whois database: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 01:13:52 UTC <<<

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    currently set to expire. This date does not necessarily reflect the expiration
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    guarantee its accuracy. By submitting a Whois query, you agree to abide
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    Domain: Blockbet.net
    Status: Protected

    DNS:
    ns1.offshoredns.co
    ns2.offshoredns.co
    ns3.offshoredns.co
    ns4.offshoredns.co

    Created: 2012-12-29 21:32:11
    Expires: 2013-12-29 13:32:10
    Last Modified: 2012-12-29 21:32:08

    Registrant Contact:
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    Team CINIPAC WHOIS PROTECTION Team CINIPAC WHOIS PROTECTION (abuse@cinipac.com)
    Unit No C-6-25 Centrio, Pantai Hillpark, No 1 Jalan Pantai Murni Pantai Hillpark
    Kuala Lumpur, Kuala Lumpur, my 59200
    P: +1.2024701095 F: +0.0

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    Unit No C-6-25 Centrio, Pantai Hillpark, No 1 Jalan Pantai Murni Pantai Hillpark
    Kuala Lumpur, Kuala Lumpur, my 59200
    P: +1.2024701095 F: +0.0

    Technical Contact:
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    Kuala Lumpur, Kuala Lumpur, my 59200
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April 25, 2013, 01:32:31 AM
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are you conveniently forgetting to mention he refunded your bet??? or did he not do that?Huh

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ns1.offshoredns.co    46.17.101.159
   
ns2.offshoredns.co    109.235.51.181
   
ns3.offshoredns.co    193.107.16.231
   
ns4.offshoredns.co    94.185.84.77

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193.107.16.231
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April 25, 2013, 01:44:45 AM
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are you conveniently forgetting to mention he refunded your bet??? or did he not do that?Huh

Spare me your attitude.  He paid 0 BTC of 172.1 BTC owed on 8 winning wagers from Saturday.

Early Sunday, he did return 20 BTC in pending NBA first round series wagers.  This is unethical in itself, though obviously better than outright theft.
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April 25, 2013, 01:52:10 AM
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are you conveniently forgetting to mention he refunded your bet??? or did he not do that?Huh

Spare me your attitude.  He paid 0 BTC of 172.1 BTC owed on 8 winning wagers from Saturday.

Early Sunday, he did return 20 BTC in pending NBA first round series wagers.  This is unethical in itself, though obviously better than outright theft.

thank you kindly for mentioning it.

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April 25, 2013, 02:12:35 AM
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are you conveniently forgetting to mention he refunded your bet??? or did he not do that?Huh

Spare me your attitude.  He paid 0 BTC of 172.1 BTC owed on 8 winning wagers from Saturday.

Early Sunday, he did return 20 BTC in pending NBA first round series wagers.  This is unethical in itself, though obviously better than outright theft.

thank you kindly for mentioning it.

I'm curious why you find this relevant and what color the sky is in your world?
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April 25, 2013, 02:27:08 AM
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are you conveniently forgetting to mention he refunded your bet??? or did he not do that?Huh

Spare me your attitude.  He paid 0 BTC of 172.1 BTC owed on 8 winning wagers from Saturday.

Early Sunday, he did return 20 BTC in pending NBA first round series wagers.  This is unethical in itself, though obviously better than outright theft.

thank you kindly for mentioning it.

I'm curious why you find this relevant and what color the sky is in your world?

Thank you for mentioning it this time around

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April 25, 2013, 02:33:27 AM
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are you conveniently forgetting to mention he refunded your bet??? or did he not do that?Huh

Spare me your attitude.  He paid 0 BTC of 172.1 BTC owed on 8 winning wagers from Saturday.

Early Sunday, he did return 20 BTC in pending NBA first round series wagers.  This is unethical in itself, though obviously better than outright theft.

thank you kindly for mentioning it.

I'm curious why you find this relevant and what color the sky is in your world?

Thank you for mentioning it this time around

Yes, we have established that he stiffed 8 winning graded bets for 172.1 BTC and weaseled out of 2 booked pending bets for 20 BTC.

Go back to begging, pathetic little troll.
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April 25, 2013, 03:06:38 AM
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crying over a measly 170 bitcoins my sides

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April 25, 2013, 01:22:19 PM
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Fuck. Best of luck getting it sorted!
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April 25, 2013, 05:05:10 PM
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crying over a measly 170 bitcoins my sides

You trying to get on everyone's ignore list?


Henry,

I assume you PMed blockbet?  No answer?  Why did you wait a few days to come forward?  Have you opened a scam accusation thread?

I made some wagers on that last day.  The winners were paid.  I also received refunds on my NBA Series bets for the series that started on Sunday.  Maybe he paid what he could and ran out of BTC???  It seems strange that he would pay some customers and not others.

Anyone else who got stiffed needs to come forward now.  Blockbet mentioned that he was planning on pursuing other BTC related business ventures.  He needs to address this reported theft.
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April 25, 2013, 07:36:30 PM
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What were the max bets at BlockBet if any?

I can't see how anyone would bet more than 10BTC at a time without some serious reputation at a shop.

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April 25, 2013, 08:07:50 PM
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This theft accusation was reported on an online gambling site: http://news.rouletters.com/sports-betting-blockbet-net-closing-shop-0001264.html

I hope blockbet makes good. Bitcoin has had enough bad press due to all the scammers that it has seen. We don't need any more.
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April 25, 2013, 09:21:56 PM
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crying over a measly 170 bitcoins my sides

You trying to get on everyone's ignore list?


Henry,

I assume you PMed blockbet?  No answer?  Why did you wait a few days to come forward?  Have you opened a scam accusation thread?

I made some wagers on that last day.  The winners were paid.  I also received refunds on my NBA Series bets for the series that started on Sunday.  Maybe he paid what he could and ran out of BTC???  It seems strange that he would pay some customers and not others.

Anyone else who got stiffed needs to come forward now.  Blockbet mentioned that he was planning on pursuing other BTC related business ventures.  He needs to address this reported theft.

I PM'd him, emailed him, and sent messages via his site.  He did not respond.  You can see from his forum account that he hasn't logged on here since locking the Blockbet.net thread.  I gave him a few days to respond or settle before reporting.

I posted to the scam forum.

From my amateur sleuthing of blockexplorer, I noticed he did pay some smaller bets on Saturday.  It's pretty common in the sportsbook world to stiff only the largest players for obvious reasons.

As I said above, I'm DOWN over 100BTC betting with him.  Based on what I see of his action from the address histories, I was overwhelmingly his largest gambler.  This is absolutely not a case of him just going broke from getting beat and running away.  He flat out stole the coins.

Probably to start his exciting new Bitcoin opportunities!  Yay anonymity!
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April 25, 2013, 10:08:08 PM
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Definitely a black eye for the entire community, really hope you get paid.

There is a reason most people stick to the few established books, most of these places barely have 2 months experience let alone 2 years+

People thinking that making wagers by sending btc per bet is somehow safer than having accounts is clearly a joke. You must trust the operator period, end of story.



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April 26, 2013, 12:33:51 AM
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Definitely a black eye for the entire community, really hope you get paid.

There is a reason most people stick to the few established books, most of these places barely have 2 months experience let alone 2 years+

People thinking that making wagers by sending btc per bet is somehow safer than having accounts is clearly a joke. You must trust the operator period, end of story.





Thanks for the sentiment.  I've been stiffed for much more several times.  It was a likely outcome with this operator, I understood that risk.

Ceteris paribus, the Blockbet.net model is obviously safer for players than posting funds.  Surely you are not asserting otherwise.
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