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April 14, 2017, 08:17:24 AM
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I built a decentralized virtual machine platform in an effort to deliver the cloud that I had envisioned when I first heard the term.

This is an open platform and anyone can participate. Just like any other cloud provider, consumers can buy virtual machines and block storage. On this platform however you can also sell virtual machine instances and block storage as a contributor of server hardware. We act as the Internet service provider and supply the networking glue that makes it possible for a server sitting in your house, garage or datacenter to route publicly accessible IPv4/6 addresses over our encrypted network fabric.

We make money by taking a small commission on sales and by charging for IP transit and address space. We are responsible for building out a global network of peering points and handling IP prefix advertisement for thousands of public and private network fabrics. NOC support and abuse reports are handled no differently than any other ISP and abusive participants can be banned from the fabric, individual IP addresses can be null routed.

Consumers creating new virtual machines can search for providers based on hardware features and historical metrics for reputation, uptime,  cpu, memory, iops, latency and throughput. If a contributor has to take their server offline then all consumer virtual machines and block storage can be live migrated to any server connected to our fabric with no downtime.

Contributors net boot our Linux distribution using a bootable USB key. Upon booting a unique identity is created and registers with our system. Our web administration interface allows you to claim these servers and bind them to your account. Then you determine if you want the server to be part of your own private cloud fabric or if you want anyone to be able to rent your resources on the public cloud fabric. You can also choose to do both, have your own private cloud but also monetize your under utilized servers and rent your excess capacity to the public.

Over the last year a few dozen people have been helping me test this platform during it's development. I've received positive feedback and it's time to invite the public to submit applications for the first phase of our beta round. Core services are production ready and battle tested but subject to a more frequent maintenance cycle. Once we enter the second phase of beta testing we will be accepting applications for server contributors.

You can submit beta applications and other questions to the following;

decentralizedvpscloud@gmail.com

I'm looking for help with continued development. If you feel you could contribute to this project, please contact me at the address listed above. I plan on accepting applications for full time positions in the near future.

Please comment, I'm looking for feedback.

The goal of this project is to bring the "mining" model to the virtualization space and encourage anyone, including existing cloud providers put servers on our fabric and openly compete in a free market. Running our distribution eliminates all of the configuration and time required to setup a sophisticated cloud infrastructure and significantly lowers the barrier of entry to becoming a cloud provider. Anyone with a good server and fast unlimited internet can boot, register and list their server resources for rent in under 5 minutes. Your only responsibility is to make sure it stays connected and powered on and offer prices that are competitive with similar offerings.

To seed the initial network, we have setup seven locations;

Portland, OR
Fremont, CA
Kansas City, MO
Ashburn, VA
San Juan, PR
Amsterdam, NL
Tokyo, JP


Each location has a variety of servers on dedicated 1 Gbps fiber that can easily achieve gigabit speeds to their peering points. Hypervisors in each location communicate over bonded Ethernet at 20 Gbps. Our Fremont, CA site is at a Hurricane Electric datacenter with a 10 Gbps uplink directly into their global backbone.

These servers represent our initial fabric capacity and I plan to add 2 to 3 more servers in 2 or 3 more locations as the need arrises. The resources total as of right now;

- 3000+ cpu cores
- 20 tb+ of memory
- 1 pb+ of disk
- 10 tb+ of pci-e nvme ssd

Here are some features that differ from typical services;

- Decentralized - Don't think presence in a dozen locations, think servers in thousands of locations all over the globe.
- Globally Routed - Continually growing our peering relationships and setting up traffic relays all over the world.
- Anycast Enabled - Your IPv4 and IPv6 addresses stay the same regardless of your location in the fabric.
- Self Healing - Fabric will automatically relay through other neighboring nodes to bypass Internet outages.
- Encrypted - Encrypted from the edge routers to the hypervisor, even LAN traffic between servers is encrypted.
- Mobility - Request a live migration to any other server location with zero downtime, same IP.
- Encrypted Storage - All customer data is encrypted at rest, keys are not kept on disk or in memory.
- Snapshots - Take a live snapshot of your disk image and roll back changes to a known state.
- Disaster Recovery - Have your data automatically replicated to one or more other server locations.
- High Availability - Incremental replication enables fast instance migration or restart with large offsite datasets.
- Routing Policies - Choose peering points to send traffic through with custom ECMP policies or keep it automatic.

Here are some features I'm still working on;

- Blockchain Orchestration - Send bitcoin/tokens to an address to create instance, destroy on zero balance.
- Autonomous Hypervisors - Hypervisors that don't allow any login at all, lock out everyone including ourselves.
- Customer Migrations - Customers can initiate a live migration to any other server location.
- Bring Your Own IP - Create private network that utilize the our global network fabric to advertise your own prefix.
- Customer Keys - Customer provided encryption keys for storage or private network communications.
- Public Servers - Allow anyone to contribute capacity to the platform in the form of dedicated baremetal servers.
- Auditing - Open source distribution and configuration for professional and public audit.

Initial pricing during the beta period is;

- $1 / 1 shared vcpu
- $1 / 1 anycast ipv4 address
- $1 / 1 gb of ecc ram
- $1 / 16 gb of pci-e nvm-e ssd
- $1 / 128 gb of double parity fault tolerant disk
- $1 / 250 gb of internet data transfer

For example;

- 1 vcpu ($1) + 1 gb ram ($1) + 16 gb ssd ($1) + ipv6 ($0) + ipv4 nat ($0) = $3/month

- 1 vcpu ($1) + 1 gb ram ($1) + 16 gb ssd ($1) + ipv6 ($0) + ipv4 ($1) + 250 gb transit ($1) = $5/month

- 2 vcpu ($2) + 2 gb ram ($2) + 32 gb ssd ($2) + 128 gb disk ($1) + ipv4 ($1) + 1 tb transfer ($4) = $12/month

As we setup more peering arrangements our bandwidth cost should come down the cost should come down drastically. Only internet ingress and egress count towards data transfer accounting. All internal traffic is unmetered and free of charge, even if the traffic spans different locations. All instances receive public IPv6 addresses free of charge. Instances without a public IPv4 address are given private addresses in the 100.64.0.0/10 CGNAT range and have no data transfer limits, both internally between instances and externally to the Internet.

Pricing for highly available instances depends on the level of redundancy. So if you want your data replicated in to exist in 3 different locations then your price is simply triple the single instance price. If a location suddenly goes offline your instance can be restarted on closest location that has your replicated data. If failure is eminent your instance will be live migrated with no downtime.

Future contributors would probably like to know what kind of hardware requirements to expect;

The the current minimum;

- x86-64 architecture and 8GB of memory
- Internet connection that supports UDP (NAT ok, no public IP required, EasyTether on LTE works!)
- Hardware that supports virtualization extensions
- UNDI capable network card
- Ability to boot from USB
- No external peripherals (usb, firewire, etc)

These are optional, but highly recommended;

- Hardware that supports AES-NI, AVX or AVX2 - Due to all of the encryption it would be pretty slow without them.
- ECC Memory - People debate it, but I sleep better at night knowing it's there.
- High Speed Internet - Try to avoid slow upstream connections. Symmetric gigabit fiber is ideal.
- Redundant Internet - Dual WAN connections can help avoid losing contracts due to Internet downtime.
- Unlimited Internet - Don't get slammed for data overage, pick a provider who won't limit you.
- NVMe PCI-e SSD - Achieve the highest customer density when utilizing high iops, high throughput SSD's.
- 6 disks or more - Additional parity/mirroring configurations will be available in the future.
- LSI2008 - This is what we are using now, so if you want to assured compatibility, use this.
- 10 GbE LAN - More than one server in a single location? It would be advisable to go 10 GbE.
- Dedicated Bypass - Direct ethernet connections between servers will utilize the direct link first.

All pricing is subject to change, I only expect prices to go down. Eventually when we come out of beta, pricing will follow the free market as contributors will be able to set their price and compete with other contributing cloud providers on a level playing field.
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April 14, 2017, 04:56:19 PM
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Not sure why you choose to post this here when you haven't announced your service yet.Either way,I like the project.Here are certain things you should work on,

->End to encryption - Cool,which algos ?
->How many network hops before joining the destination ?
->Planning to extend for IPv6 addresses ?
->Data is encrypted,where are the private keys stored ?
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Your project sound quite interesting and i will be happy to see this coming to life and deliver what you have claimed above. However i don't have enough time to give as beta tester.

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Not sure why you choose to post this here when you haven't announced your service yet.Either way,I like the project.Here are certain things you should work on,

->End to encryption - Cool,which algos ?
->How many network hops before joining the destination ?
->Planning to extend for IPv6 addresses ?
->Data is encrypted,where are the private keys stored ?

I am announcing a new service, I'll continue to update the parent page.

There are paying customers who have been using this platform for over a year. I'm now willing to accept more customers from a more general audience.

To answer your question about hops before joining a destination, it depends where your starting from. I have peering points in Seattle, Dallas, New Jersey and Washinton DC. I'm always on the look out for new peering partners, the goal is to peer in as many places as possible. Each peering point adds a point of redundancy and further distributes traffic, so the more the better. When traffic enters a peering point it is encrypted and the data is forwarded over our SDN fabric. The encryption is end to end from the peering point all the way to the hypervisor hosting your virtual machine. The network is fully peer to peer and self healing, if a peer is unable to communicate directly it will relay off an intermediate.

IPv6 is currently functional, but only unicast out of Seattle at the moment. Enabling Anycast mobility on IPv6 is on the todo list.

I use a technique like TRESOR to keep the king ring master out of main memory. I know it isn't a perfect solution and still susceptible to DMA based attacks. Right now though, it's better than nothing. Kernel hardening is yet another area of continued development.

I specifically designed everything to enable high availability features transparently to a virtual machine. In the event of an outage your machine could be live migrated to the location where you have your block storage replicated. All with zero down time and no interruption of traffic flow and no changes to assigned IP addresses.

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It's interesting, will be keeping up and seeing how this plays out.

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I have been using sunbreak's service for over a year. First rate and professional!!

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I updated the original post with a revised description of the service based on feedback that I received. I hope it's easier to understand now.

Does anyone have any questions about the new write up?
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I have been using sunbreak's service for over a year. First rate and professional!!

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Thanks for the kind words.
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April 21, 2017, 02:37:04 AM
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I'm confused on the selling your own resources part. If you do this, do you pick your own prices, or is the system set up with predetermined pricing that you have to go with?

And there's a downside to this type of system: how can you ensure that users hosting someone's VPS won't access the files/MITM it?

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I'm confused on the selling your own resources part. If you do this, do you pick your own prices, or is the system set up with predetermined pricing that you have to go with?

And there's a downside to this type of system: how can you ensure that users hosting someone's VPS won't access the files/MITM it?

In this first beta round we are supplying all of the hardware and the prices are set at very reasonable initial levels. During the second round when people are invited to contribute their own servers then everyone sets their own prices. It all comes down to if you can offer a similar resource for a price competitive enough for someone to be interested in renting it.

In bitcoin terms, this is almost exactly like sites like miningrigrentals.com where mining rigs are listed by price and you select based on their reputation, rental history and mining rig performances. All of those factors dictate what a fair asking price is.

Here's a list to see what I mean;

https://www.miningrigrentals.com/rigs/sha256

To answer your question about the physical security of the system;

- All of the information is encrypted on the disks.
- The encryption keys are not stored in memory or on the disks.
- The operating system only exists in memory and is stateless, reboot and it's gone.
- Fabric is authenticated, a system can be forcefully removed from the fabric and it would be unable to rejoin
- If you reboot it you only end up with drives containing encrypted data.
- If you pulled a drive while it was running you would only end up 1/6 of the data and that would be encrypted to.
- You can't monitor communications because the only traffic in and out of the box is encrypted as well.
- There are forms of memory encryption and compression at play as well, so rebooting another OS to read ram won't help you either.
- The kernel was compiled with minimal hardware support and drivers, no external busses at all (usb, firewire, serial, etc)

There are some additional attack vectors of concern. There is an active effort to address those as well.
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I'm confused on the selling your own resources part. If you do this, do you pick your own prices, or is the system set up with predetermined pricing that you have to go with?

And there's a downside to this type of system: how can you ensure that users hosting someone's VPS won't access the files/MITM it?

In this first beta round we are supplying all of the hardware and the prices are set at very reasonable initial levels. During the second round when people are invited to contribute their own servers then everyone sets their own prices. It all comes down to if you can offer a similar resource for a price competitive enough for someone to be interested in renting it.

In bitcoin terms, this is almost exactly like sites like miningrigrentals.com where mining rigs are listed by price and you select based on their reputation, rental history and mining rig performances. All of those factors dictate what a fair asking price is.

Here's a list to see what I mean;

https://www.miningrigrentals.com/rigs/sha256

To answer your question about the physical security of the system;

- All of the information is encrypted on the disks.
- The encryption keys are not stored in memory or on the disks.
- The operating system only exists in memory and is stateless, reboot and it's gone.
- Fabric is authenticated, a system can be forcefully removed from the fabric and it would be unable to rejoin
- If you reboot it you only end up with drives containing encrypted data.
- If you pulled a drive while it was running you would only end up 1/6 of the data and that would be encrypted to.
- You can't monitor communications because the only traffic in and out of the box is encrypted as well.
- There are forms of memory encryption and compression at play as well, so rebooting another OS to read ram won't help you either.
- The kernel was compiled with minimal hardware support and drivers, no external busses at all (usb, firewire, serial, etc)

There are some additional attack vectors of concern. There is an active effort to address those as well.


Great answers, Smiley. Which leads to another... there's no redundancy, is there? What if, for example, someone's system crashes? HDD failure, other hardware failure, etc. I saw that it would be replicated if someone planned to go offline, but if it were unintended, it would need to be backed up for safety (otherwise killing the purpose of using it for most real-world scenarios, since we'd be running sites and other services), but that would require multiple VPSs to be paid for or something like that...

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I'm confused on the selling your own resources part. If you do this, do you pick your own prices, or is the system set up with predetermined pricing that you have to go with?

And there's a downside to this type of system: how can you ensure that users hosting someone's VPS won't access the files/MITM it?

In this first beta round we are supplying all of the hardware and the prices are set at very reasonable initial levels. During the second round when people are invited to contribute their own servers then everyone sets their own prices. It all comes down to if you can offer a similar resource for a price competitive enough for someone to be interested in renting it.

In bitcoin terms, this is almost exactly like sites like miningrigrentals.com where mining rigs are listed by price and you select based on their reputation, rental history and mining rig performances. All of those factors dictate what a fair asking price is.

Here's a list to see what I mean;

https://www.miningrigrentals.com/rigs/sha256

To answer your question about the physical security of the system;

- All of the information is encrypted on the disks.
- The encryption keys are not stored in memory or on the disks.
- The operating system only exists in memory and is stateless, reboot and it's gone.
- Fabric is authenticated, a system can be forcefully removed from the fabric and it would be unable to rejoin
- If you reboot it you only end up with drives containing encrypted data.
- If you pulled a drive while it was running you would only end up 1/6 of the data and that would be encrypted to.
- You can't monitor communications because the only traffic in and out of the box is encrypted as well.
- There are forms of memory encryption and compression at play as well, so rebooting another OS to read ram won't help you either.
- The kernel was compiled with minimal hardware support and drivers, no external busses at all (usb, firewire, serial, etc)

There are some additional attack vectors of concern. There is an active effort to address those as well.


Great answers, Smiley. Which leads to another... there's no redundancy, is there? What if, for example, someone's system crashes? HDD failure, other hardware failure, etc. I saw that it would be replicated if someone planned to go offline, but if it were unintended, it would need to be backed up for safety (otherwise killing the purpose of using it for most real-world scenarios, since we'd be running sites and other services), but that would require multiple VPSs to be paid for or something like that...

Just like your typical cloud provider, each server we are providing has been configured to be as reliable as possible with ecc memory, bonded networking, double parity storage, dual power supplies, ups and generator. The additional off-site redundancy is an extra layer of fault tolerance that is above and beyond what most cloud providers offer. Getting that kind of feature transparently relieves the user from having to manually implement it themselves (drbd, rsync, etc).

Without off-site redundancy hardware failure results in your virtual machine going offline. I've had this happen to my own vm's with multiple main stream providers. When the provider resolves the issue your instance is brought back online. Then you could re-evaluate if that provider is meeting your expectations. If not just migrate to another provider seamlessly with no downtime. Migration time would depend on the volume of data being transferred to the alternative provider.

The real potential for instance failure is fairly low, but not impossible. If the provider failed to meet their advertised SLA, then a portion of your rental fee would be refunded.

When a hardware contributor's machine boots it has to download and start the operating system, authenticate, join the fabric and mount the disks with the proper encryption keys. This process currently takes about 10 minutes.

In terms of the additional cost, if you replicate data offsite and reserve capacity for your instance in case of failure. Then you are utilizing double the resources, so it's double the price. You would have the ability to choose both your primary and secondary provider. There is technically no limit to the number of off-site replicates that you can have. You choose your level of fault tolerance and only pay for what you determine to be sufficient.
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So far these have been pretty good questions, keep them coming!
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So far I have received 6 beta applications. I forgot to mention how many I would be accepting, I should be able to do a total of 50 applicants at this time, 44 openings left. It all depends on what resources you actually want, but 44 is a pretty good estimate.

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I just acquired the domain the other day. The name for the service had not been determined until very recently. I took suggestions from people and the 'cloudsmash' name was deemed the best fit. As stated in a previous message, I am still looking for help with a web front end development. Would you like to volunteer?
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April 25, 2017, 01:48:48 AM
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Will you be doing anything with Intel CAT to block cross-VM CPU cache attacks, especially on the handful of machines in this initial round?

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Yuval_Yarom/publication/291830462_CATalyst_Defeating_Last-Level_Cache_Side_Channel_Attacks_in_Cloud_Computing/links/56a6b0d408aeded22e3544ff.pdf

a system that uses CAT to protect general purpose software and cryptographic algorithms.

Their approach can be directly applied to protect against a malicious enclave. However, this approach also does not allow to protect enclaves from an outside attacker.

- https://arxiv.org/pdf/1702.08719.pdf

- https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13995374
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I just acquired the domain the other day. The name for the service had not been determined until very recently. I took suggestions from people and the 'cloudsmash' name was deemed the best fit. As stated in a previous message, I am still looking for help with a web front end development. Would you like to volunteer?

I think clearly giving information on what the compensation structure is would go a long way. I can't personally help out here, but may help find biters, rather than just tossing out that you need help.

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The above is the information displayed by your website http://www.cloudsmash.io are you no longer using the domain name or you no longer do this business ?

I just acquired the domain the other day. The name for the service had not been determined until very recently. I took suggestions from people and the 'cloudsmash' name was deemed the best fit. As stated in a previous message, I am still looking for help with a web front end development. Would you like to volunteer?

I think clearly giving information on what the compensation structure is would go a long way. I can't personally help out here, but may help find biters, rather than just tossing out that you need help.

The person renting out their machines would set their own prices and receive the entire rental amount minus a small commission.

The larger the network the smaller the commission percentage will be. The goal is to get the commission down to 2%, it is currently undetermined what percentage we will start at. I can say with confidence that it will definitely not be more than 10% initially, hopefully less.
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