Spam attack again

[BillyBobZorton]

Spam attack causes another 60k fake pump in unconfirmed transactions to keep pumping whatever trash narrative the attacker wants to push.

Meanwhile bad miners keep blocking progress (segwit + LN, in order to allow for mainstream bitcoin usage).

Sad!!

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[kvlolo]

Are the bad miners handling only those transactions with high fees?

[jonald_fyookball]

spam or not, raise the blocksize dummy.  That's the only option.

[franky1]

june/july 2016 mempool bump = blockstream wanting to cause drama to make CSV look like its needed

october 2016+ mempool longer bump = blockstream wanting to cause drama to make segwit look like its needed

april 2017+ mempool bump = blockstream wanting to cause drama to make UASF look like its needed

all mempool drama occurs when blockstream need to make people react and get frustrated that old code doesnt work.

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meanwhile other implementations with no deadlines no threats no mallice no Nuke pool blackmails, simply plod along and have no reason to cause mempool bloat at specific times.

the specific timing of the mempool bloat is very revealing

[xmasdobo]

spam or not, raise the blocksize dummy.  That's the only option.

blocksize increase without segwit is stupid dummy

[jonald_fyookball]

spam or not, raise the blocksize dummy.  That's the only option.

blocksize increase without segwit is stupid dummy

oh yeah? and why is that?

[franky1]

spam or not, raise the blocksize dummy.  That's the only option.

blocksize increase without segwit is stupid dummy

unless you have read the code for segwit FULLY. and understand how it functions FULLY. and run scenarios. without just "i trust blockstream". then please spend more time learning and less time with empty arguments/insults to people.

you would laugh at yourself if you actually went and looked passed the 20 second reddit sales pitches and really had a critical look at the code.

[Yakamoto]

Are the bad miners handling only those transactions with high fees?

I would want to say yes, and chances are, yes they are, but for right now I'll give them a bit more respect and say they're just confirming whatever the blockchain gives them, even though we both know that's probably not true.

High fees give it a higher likelihood to be confirmed for obvious reasons, so take that as you may.

[mobnepal]

Meanwhile bad miners keep blocking progress (segwit + LN, in order to allow for mainstream bitcoin usage).

Don't know hidden motivation all those attackers/miners have to block segwit and LN. This debate has been really bullshit this days, this spam attacks is causing lots of loss for bitcoin users in fee and time.

[Lionidas]

I sent during that time and it took literally 5 - 6 hours to complete a 0.005btc send.
That was so bad for the blockchain and it was with a 0.0006btc transaction fee.
Was expecting it within the hour at the very least. But that was unacceptable at any rate.

[Kprawn]

Boom!.... enter the BU pumpers and spoils a good discussion again.  ...... Bitcoin being pseudo anonymous, makes things difficult for people

to pinpoint who are behind these attacks. We might even have someone without "hidden" agendas doing this. There have been companies doing

tests on the Blockchain for other projects not related to the BU vs BTC Core fight and these tests were causing spam. 

[znggurj]

blockstream wanting to cause drama to make UASF look like its needed

I think that Gregory Maxwell (Blockstream CTO) opposes BIP 148. You should probably do your research before you start throwing shit around.

[franky1]

Boom!.... enter the BU pumpers and spoils a good discussion again.  ...... Bitcoin being pseudo anonymous, makes things difficult for people

to pinpoint who are behind these attacks. We might even have someone without "hidden" agendas doing this. There have been companies doing

tests on the Blockchain for other projects not related to the BU vs BTC Core fight and these tests were causing spam. 

BU pumpers. funny part is im a dynamic bitcoin from DIVERSE (multibrand) nodes.
(true decentralisation)

so dont throw me into the BU or core or any other camp. my mindset is about the 120+ years of bitcoin not the temporary price drama or the temporary mempool attacks or the temporary dev teams. i care about things which are restraining bitcoins LONGTERM sustainability

once you get passed the band camp mindset and care about the bitcoin network and the long term view. you start to be critical abot all these one time gestures and changes that do harm, and care less about kissing ass

[franky1]

blockstream wanting to cause drama to make UASF look like its needed

I think that Gregory Maxwell (Blockstream CTO) opposes BIP 148. You should probably do your research before you start throwing shit around.

i know gmax says he doesnt like it but...
the USAF hat wearing advocate samson mow is now as of 2 days ago a blockstream employee. so i feel its gmax saying he doesnt like it so people stop attacking him personally while (his company) blockstream push it through with samson mow taking the heat.

EG hire a hitman so you can still get someone killed but blame it on someone else for pulling the trigger

[aTriz]

Spam attack causes another 60k fake pump in unconfirmed transactions to keep pumping whatever trash narrative the attacker wants to push.

Meanwhile bad miners keep blocking progress (segwit + LN, in order to allow for mainstream bitcoin usage).

Sad!!

I still cannot understand why everybody things this is a fake pump of transactions.
Maybe im not thinking correctly right now, but 50k+ unconfirmed transactions have happened many times before, during the big traffic on blockchain, so why would it be spam right now?
We can see more people getting interested about bitcoin , and cryptocurrency subject overall, so it is obvious that new people are coming to our crypto world.

I understand the whole situation where BC/BU miners are trying to fight each other, and I understand that miners may have bigger profits when the blockchain is stuffed with transactions, but trafficing whole web for that purpose? Im not sure about that, maybe someone can explain that to me, please?

[jonald_fyookball]

blockstream wanting to cause drama to make UASF look like its needed

I think that Gregory Maxwell (Blockstream CTO) opposes BIP 148. You should probably do your research before you start throwing shit around.

i know gmax says he doesnt like it but...
the USAF hat wearing advocate samson mow is now as of 2 days ago a blockstream employee. so i feel its gmax saying he doesnt like it so people stop attacking him personally while (his company) blockstream push it through with samson mow taking the heat.

EG hire a hitman so you can still get someone killed but blame it on someone else for pulling the trigger

nah.... you're wrong on this one i think.

I have no idea why they hired that clown, but he has no influence.  Everyone listens to Gmax.  If Gmax kiboshed it, its dead.  Anyway we all know UASF would never work.  They are just trying anything they can, throwing spaghetti and the wall and they have nothing to lose.  They just gain more stalling.  

[erikalui]

Isn't this always happening. Whenever I check, there are 60k+ transactions pending and I did not find any difficulty in getting my three transactions confirmed with 50 sats/byte. They all got confirmed within 30 minutes. Now the situation is before than earlier when even transactions with high fee were stuck for hours in the network.

[jonald_fyookball]

Isn't this always happening. Whenever I check, there are 60k+ transactions pending and I did not find any difficulty in getting my three transactions confirmed with 50 sats/byte. They all got confirmed within 30 minutes. Now the situation is before than earlier when even transactions with high fee were stuck for hours in the network.

so thats about 15-20 cents for a typical tx. but sometimes people pay more.
https://twitter.com/nikzh/status/852852990373498880

average is $1.

I think the miners have enough money, don't you?  They have their 12.5 BTC/block.

Lets go back to 1 penny transactions by getting big blocks.

[The One]

Boom!.... enter the BU pumpers and spoils a good discussion again.  ...... Bitcoin being pseudo anonymous, makes things difficult for people

to pinpoint who are behind these attacks. We might even have someone without "hidden" agendas doing this. There have been companies doing

tests on the Blockchain for other projects not related to the BU vs BTC Core fight and these tests were causing spam. 

my mindset is about the 120+ years of bitcoin not the temporary price drama or the temporary mempool attacks or the temporary dev teams. i care about things which are restraining bitcoins LONGTERM sustainability

So you fancy living to 120+ years. In an old people home trading BTC or chilling out enjoying your retirement when 1 BTC = $1m+. Agree with the long-term outlook which is more important than the current fiasco. How would you solve the current dilemma for the next two years, in order to allow a long-term plan to debated in a mature manner?

[The One]

blockstream wanting to cause drama to make UASF look like its needed

I think that Gregory Maxwell (Blockstream CTO) opposes BIP 148. You should probably do your research before you start throwing shit around.

EG hire a hitman so you can still get someone killed but blame it on someone else for pulling the trigger

Just imagine a criminal gang - mafia for example - loses a lot of money due to the developers mucking around. I would not be surprised if your sentence become prophetic.