Zombie Jesus Day

[PowerWalletDotCom]

Jesus really existed, but he was invented a whole fantastic legend and forced people to believe in it. Now it's funny to see how many blindly believe in this and do not understand that this is a fraud.

In today's world today, very many proclaim themselves prophets, but this is complete nonsense. But Jesus Christ is quite another matter. Believe in him and his father no one forces.

[ChineTownMan]

There is information that people stole this holiday from the Gentiles and it has nothing to do with the resurrection of Christ. Paganism existed much more than Christianity, so this day is likely a good tradition of starting agriculture, rather than religious celebrations.

[Alexzap]

So many Christian holidays were stolen from pagans. Most likely it did not to accustom people to the new holidays. Stole popular brand. Now it would be called plagiarism and the phallic symbols of Easter.

[ridery99]

Spoiler:

Jesus never existed... Jesus is a myth

There are zero... yes ZERO... contemporary reports of Jesus... ZERO historians wrote about him

It was not until 30+ years after he died before his name is even mentioned... anywhere... even in the bible

There are ZERO non-biblical sources for the name Jesus before 300AD (not even a great-great-great-great-grandson of a witness recorded the event)

ZERO people wrote about Jesus within 30 years of his death... ZERO people accurately recorded his teachings (can you recall the exact words someone told you 30+ years ago?)

Not to mention every event, and many of the sayings of Jesus were recorded in other religions prior to christianity... nothing is unique... the virgin birth, death, resurrection... all copied from earlier religions

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/14/what-is-the-historical-evidence-that-jesus-christ-lived-and-died

What is the historical evidence that Jesus Christ lived and died?

How confident can we be that Jesus Christ actually lived?
The historical evidence for Jesus of Nazareth is both long-established and widespread. Within a few decades of his supposed lifetime, he is mentioned by Jewish and Roman historians, as well as by dozens of Christian writings. Compare that with, for example, King Arthur, who supposedly lived around AD500. The major historical source for events of that time does not even mention Arthur, and he is first referred to 300 or 400 years after he is supposed to have lived. The evidence for Jesus is not limited to later folklore, as are accounts of Arthur.

What do Christian writings tell us?
The value of this evidence is that it is both early and detailed. The first Christian writings to talk about Jesus are the epistles of St Paul, and scholars agree that the earliest of these letters were written within 25 years of Jesus’s death at the very latest, while the detailed biographical accounts of Jesus in the New Testament gospels date from around 40 years after he died. These all appeared within the lifetimes of numerous eyewitnesses, and provide descriptions that comport with the culture and geography of first-century Palestine. It is also difficult to imagine why Christian writers would invent such a thoroughly Jewish saviour figure in a time and place – under the aegis of the Roman empire – where there was strong suspicion of Judaism.

What did non-Christian authors say about Jesus?
As far as we know, the first author outside the church to mention Jesus is the Jewish historian Flavius Josephus, who wrote a history of Judaism around AD93. He has two references to Jesus. One of these is controversial because it is thought to be corrupted by Christian scribes (probably turning Josephus’s negative account into a more positive one), but the other is not suspicious – a reference to James, the brother of “Jesus, the so-called Christ”.

About 20 years after Josephus we have the Roman politicians Pliny and Tacitus, who held some of the highest offices of state at the beginning of the second century AD. From Tacitus we learn that Jesus was executed while Pontius Pilate was the Roman prefect in charge of Judaea (AD26-36) and Tiberius was emperor (AD14-37) – reports that fit with the timeframe of the gospels. Pliny contributes the information that, where he was governor in northern Turkey, Christians worshipped Christ as a god. Neither of them liked Christians – Pliny writes of their “pig-headed obstinacy” and Tacitus calls their religion a destructive superstition.

Did ancient writers discuss the existence of Jesus?
Strikingly, there was never any debate in the ancient world about whether Jesus of Nazareth was a historical figure. In the earliest literature of the Jewish Rabbis, Jesus was denounced as the illegitimate child of Mary and a sorcerer. Among pagans, the satirist Lucian and philosopher Celsus dismissed Jesus as a scoundrel, but we know of no one in the ancient world who questioned whether Jesus lived.

How controversial is the existence of Jesus now?
In a recent book, the French philosopher Michel Onfray talks of Jesus as a mere hypothesis, his existence as an idea rather than as a historical figure. About 10 years ago, The Jesus Project was set up in the US; one of its main questions for discussion was that of whether or not Jesus existed. Some authors have even argued that Jesus of Nazareth was doubly non-existent, contending that both Jesus and Nazareth are Christian inventions. It is worth noting, though, that the two mainstream historians who have written most against these hypersceptical arguments are atheists: Maurice Casey (formerly of Nottingham University) and Bart Ehrman (University of North Carolina). They have issued stinging criticisms of the “Jesus-myth” approach, branding it pseudo-scholarship. Nevertheless, a recent survey discovered that 40% of adults in England did not believe that Jesus was a real historical figure.

Is there any archaeological evidence for Jesus?
Part of the popular confusion around the historicity of Jesus may be caused by peculiar archaeological arguments raised in relation to him. Recently there have been claims that Jesus was a great-grandson of Cleopatra, complete with ancient coins allegedly showing Jesus wearing his crown of thorns. In some circles, there is still interest in the Shroud of Turin, supposedly Jesus’s burial shroud. Pope Benedict XVI stated that it was something that “no human artistry was capable of producing” and an “icon of Holy Saturday”.

It is hard to find historians who regard this material as serious archaeological data, however. The documents produced by Christian, Jewish and Roman writers form the most significant evidence.

These abundant historical references leave us with little reasonable doubt that Jesus lived and died. The more interesting question – which goes beyond history and objective fact – is whether Jesus died and lived.

Why you keep lying, Moloch? Is that fear? Stop being so emotional, my friend

[Lacander]

Now it is difficult to prove the fact that this is a stolen holiday for pagans and Jesus has nothing to do with him. For several hundred years, people have been inspired by myths and now it is almost impossible to clear the brain of this false information.

[coolcoinz]

So many Christian holidays were stolen from pagans. Most likely it did not to accustom people to the new holidays. Stole popular brand. Now it would be called plagiarism and the phallic symbols of Easter.

That's because pagans looked for signs in nature to mark those special days of celebration. The shortest day, the longest day. The highest sun, the lowest sun.
The first Christians wanted to make it easy for the people, so they made their holidays on the same days. Some could say they stole it, but some will call it evolution. Their beliefs evolved into something new that combined the old traditions of pagan rituals with the story of the life of Jesus.

[Slow death]

God created us out of love and mercy you should be thankful and obey His commands(follow the path which He sent as holy books)do you think you have any chance standing against the will of the one who has created all the universe? 1 blow from the sun would wipe us all from existence.

 

Do you think that's fair?

Because someone supposedly created you, does that person have the right to impose your wills on you?

[Buffer Overflow]

God created us out of love and mercy you should be thankful and obey His commands(follow the path which He sent as holy books)

If anybody followed "his commands" to the letter, the authorities would of quickly catch them and locked them away from society for a very long time.

[Mometaskers]

I do not believe Jesus rose from the dead. I do believe that he could have been an actual historical figure. The time frame of his supposed life was a tumultuous time in Judaea, with prophets of doom everywhere, pronouncing the coming apocalypse. Jesus could have just been one of those prophets.

That was not surprising, considering there are still segments of the population seething because of the Roman occupation. Some people who believe that the New Testament events did occur (save for the supernatural shenanigans) are proposing Judas' betrayal was an attempt to agitate people into openly fighting the Romans. Whether that had an effect we can't tell but rebellion did broke out, with Titus ordering Jerusalem's destruction in 70 AD. (That's what they got for not helping the Galileans fend of the Roman army from Syria.)

Hello, buddy. Christ is Risen. Today my family and the whole world, celebrates the feast of Holy Easter. And I congratulate you on this day. I want to say that if there is no god for you, then he is with you always.

That certainly makes sex and masturbation awkward.

Jesus really existed, but he was invented a whole fantastic legend and forced people to believe in it. Now it's funny to see how many blindly believe in this and do not understand that this is a fraud.

Tell this to people who believed a confirmed charlatan who unearthed an ancient tablet by the guidance of an angel named MORONi.

[DocGTR]

God created us out of love and mercy you should be thankful and obey His commands(follow the path which He sent as holy books)do you think you have any chance standing against the will of the one who has created all the universe? 1 blow from the sun would wipe us all from existence.

 

Do you think that's fair?

Because someone supposedly created you, does that person have the right to impose your wills on you?

It is not right. The Bible with all the commandments was written by people in order to subordinate others to themselves, as it is profitable for them. You need to think with your head, and do not tell the tricks.

[Neon1822]

God created us out of love and mercy you should be thankful and obey His commands(follow the path which He sent as holy books)do you think you have any chance standing against the will of the one who has created all the universe? 1 blow from the sun would wipe us all from existence.

 

Do you think that's fair?

Because someone supposedly created you, does that person have the right to impose your wills on you?

It is not right. The Bible with all the commandments was written by people in order to subordinate others to themselves, as it is profitable for them. You need to think with your head, and do not tell the tricks.

If the person does not want to be subjugated then he resists it. I think that religions hold a selection of potential slaves and subjects them to himself, not forgetting to take into account the interests of the state.

[GreenBits]

God created us out of love and mercy you should be thankful and obey His commands(follow the path which He sent as holy books)do you think you have any chance standing against the will of the one who has created all the universe? 1 blow from the sun would wipe us all from existence.

 

Do you think that's fair?

Because someone supposedly created you, does that person have the right to impose your wills on you?

It is not right. The Bible with all the commandments was written by people in order to subordinate others to themselves, as it is profitable for them. You need to think with your head, and do not tell the tricks.

Most Christians (self included) believe said writing is divinely inspired, not the actual works of the writer's themselves.

And The Lord does not impose his Will on you. Far from it. You have absolute free will, tempered with the free will of others.

Satan being allowed to run amok should demonstrate the concept of free will.

[Moloch]

Spoiler:

Jesus never existed... Jesus is a myth

There are zero... yes ZERO... contemporary reports of Jesus... ZERO historians wrote about him

It was not until 30+ years after he died before his name is even mentioned... anywhere... even in the bible

There are ZERO non-biblical sources for the name Jesus before 300AD (not even a great-great-great-great-grandson of a witness recorded the event)

ZERO people wrote about Jesus within 30 years of his death... ZERO people accurately recorded his teachings (can you recall the exact words someone told you 30+ years ago?)

Not to mention every event, and many of the sayings of Jesus were recorded in other religions prior to christianity... nothing is unique... the virgin birth, death, resurrection... all copied from earlier religions

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/14/what-is-the-historical-evidence-that-jesus-christ-lived-and-died

What did non-Christian authors say about Jesus?
As far as we know, the first author outside the church to mention Jesus is the Jewish historian Flavius Josephus, who wrote a history of Judaism around AD93. He has two references to Jesus. One of these is controversial because it is thought to be corrupted by Christian scribes (probably turning Josephus’s negative account into a more positive one), but the other is not suspicious – a reference to James, the brother of “Jesus, the so-called Christ”.

About 20 years after Josephus we have the Roman politicians Pliny and Tacitus, who held some of the highest offices of state at the beginning of the second century AD. From Tacitus we learn that Jesus was executed while Pontius Pilate was the Roman prefect in charge of Judaea (AD26-36) and Tiberius was emperor (AD14-37) – reports that fit with the timeframe of the gospels. Pliny contributes the information that, where he was governor in northern Turkey, Christians worshipped Christ as a god. Neither of them liked Christians – Pliny writes of their “pig-headed obstinacy” and Tacitus calls their religion a destructive superstition.


...Nevertheless, a recent survey discovered that 40% of adults in England did not believe that Jesus was a real historical figure... (editor's note: nice factoid!)

Why you keep lying, Moloch? Is that fear? Stop being so emotional, my friend

That's a lovely cut-and-paste propaganda job... but it's factually incorrect

Flavius Josephus' Testimonium is a known forgery
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus_on_Jesus

Louis Feldman has stated that in the period from 1937 to 1980 at least 87 articles had appeared on the topic, the overwhelming majority of which questioned the total or partial authenticity of the Testimonium. While early scholars considered the Testimonium to be a total forgery, the majority of modern scholars consider it partially authentic, despite some clear Christian interpolations in the text

although twelve Christian authors refer to Josephus before Eusebius in 324 AD, none mentions the Testimonium

Scholars also point to the silence of Photios as late as the 9th century, and the fact that he does not mention the Testimonium at all in his broad review of Josephus

A separate argument from silence against the total or partial authenticity of the Testimonium is that a 5th or 6th century table of contents of Josephus makes no mention of it

In The Witness To The Historicity of Jesus, Arthur Drews stated that "in the sixteenth century Vossius had a manuscript of the text of Josephus in which there was not a word about Jesus."

"Neither of these passages is found in the original version of the Jewish Antiquities which was preserved by the Jews. The first passage (XVII, 3, 3) was quoted by Eusebius writing in c. 320 C.E., so we can conclude that it was added in some time between the time Christians got hold of the Jewish Antiquities and c. 320 C.E. It is not known when the other passage (XX, 9, 1) was added... Neither passage is based on any reliable sources. It is fraudulent to claim that these passages were written by Josephus and that they provide evidence for Jesus. They were written by Christian redactors and were based purely on Christian belief."

You're wrong... literally ZERO historians mention Jesus within 300 years of his death... Josephus is a proven forgery... care to try again?

Even if Josephus was legitimate (which it is most certainly not)... it was supposedly written in 97AD... 64 years after Jesus died...
The first supposed mention of Jesus, a god-man who supposedly performed miracles in front of THOUSANDS of people, was 64 years after he died?  suspicious!

Josephus was not even born until 37AD... 3 years after "Jesus" died

Is that the best you have?  Flavius Josephus, born 3 years after "Jesus" died... wrote Jesus' name down when he was 67? (again, it didn't happen... proven forgery)

[Moloch]

I stand corrected... Jesus was not a zombie himself, he was a lich!



Totally explains how he was able to raise zombies from the dead in Matthew 27:51-53

Then, behold, the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom; and the earth quaked, and the rocks were split, and the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised; and coming out of the graves after His resurrection, they went into the holy city and appeared to many.

Yup, zombies... in the bible... "appeared to many"... and zero historians thought it worthy of writing down

[gabmen]

Well there's really no need to mock this Christian tradition as it will only merit hatred. Can't we just respect other people's beliefs even if we find it a bit illogical? I mean, yeah the concept of resurrection may not be that realistic today but that's how Christians would prefer it to be and it doesn't affect us in a bad way so let's just let them be.

[ridery99]

Moloch is one of the most religious persons here on this forum. He doesn't believe in facts and he has some very low self esteem because he is constantly going against everything which proves his darwin-dawkins-cult to be wrong and dumb. he seems to be very afraid of the truth but fortunately he have to meet his Creator one day and it's not going to be a nice day if he doesn't give up on his pride and repent. And that day is getting closer and closer 

[Spoderman]

Moloch is one of the most religious persons here on this forum. He doesn't believe in facts and he has some very low self esteem because he is constantly going against everything which proves his darwin-dawkins-cult to be wrong and dumb. he seems to be very afraid of the truth but fortunately he have to meet his Creator one day and it's not going to be a nice day if he doesn't give up on his pride and repent. And that day is getting closer and closer 

I find it funny how you "believers" paint other people with your own issues. We see right through this and realize that your in fact talking about yourself. In my experience its the Christians and other religious folk that have low self esteem because they need to latch onto a super deity father figure for security. This world is harsh and I can understand why people like you think this way. Its for comfort and you come together in your church (cult) to feel like you're part of something.

[Moloch]

Moloch is one of the most religious persons here on this forum. He doesn't believe in facts and he has some very low self esteem because he is constantly going against everything which proves his darwin-dawkins-cult to be wrong and dumb. he seems to be very afraid of the truth but fortunately he have to meet his Creator one day and it's not going to be a nice day if he doesn't give up on his pride and repent. And that day is getting closer and closer  

I find it funny how you "believers" paint other people with your own issues. We see right through this and realize that your in fact talking about yourself. In my experience its the Christians and other religious folk that have low self esteem because they need to latch onto a super deity father figure for security. This world is harsh and I can understand why people like you think this way. Its for comfort and you come together in your church (cult) to feel like you're part of something.

It's called psychological projection... everyone does this subconsciously, unless they actively fight against it (protip: easy way to find someone's weakness, they literally tell you)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

Psychological projection is a theory in psychology in which humans defend themselves against their own unconscious impulses or qualities (both positive and negative) by denying their existence in themselves while attributing them to others. For example, a person who is habitually rude may constantly accuse other people of being rude. It incorporates blame shifting.

According to some research, the projection of one's unconscious qualities onto others is a common process in everyday life.

[voltesbit777]

It's that time of year again... when christians around the world gather to celebrate the first zombie



And, pagans around the world remind christians that easter is a stolen pagan holiday

Which explains the bunnies, easter egg hunts, etc

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ēostre

Ēostre or Ostara is a Germanic goddess who, by way of the Germanic month bearing her name, is the namesake of the festival of Easter

Quick, look busy, Jesus might be coming...

Tomorrow is another BS family dinner where I have to pretend we are Christians and went to church to bless some food....

Oh, well, crazy world we live in...

with all your respect, aren't you scared of what you said on this thread?  seems that your expressing your anger into christianity also to Jesus. That's really awful and awkward. 

[ridery99]

Moloch is one of the most religious persons here on this forum. He doesn't believe in facts and he has some very low self esteem because he is constantly going against everything which proves his darwin-dawkins-cult to be wrong and dumb. he seems to be very afraid of the truth but fortunately he have to meet his Creator one day and it's not going to be a nice day if he doesn't give up on his pride and repent. And that day is getting closer and closer  

I find it funny how you "believers" paint other people with your own issues. We see right through this and realize that your in fact talking about yourself. In my experience its the Christians and other religious folk that have low self esteem because they need to latch onto a super deity father figure for security. This world is harsh and I can understand why people like you think this way. Its for comfort and you come together in your church (cult) to feel like you're part of something.

It's called psychological projection... everyone does this subconsciously, unless they actively fight against it (protip: easy way to find someone's weakness, they literally tell you)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

Psychological projection is a theory in psychology in which humans defend themselves against their own unconscious impulses or qualities (both positive and negative) by denying their existence in themselves while attributing them to others. For example, a person who is habitually rude may constantly accuse other people of being rude. It incorporates blame shifting.

According to some research, the projection of one's unconscious qualities onto others is a common process in everyday life.

That's what you been doing here all the time