Avoid Casinos With Max Bet Rules

[Lucky7btc]

and yet most of the FortuneJack posters who are promoting them in there sig campaign.  Guess what?  Fortune Jack also has a 0.025 BTC max bet rule in place too.  Like gee almost like it's universal across all soft swiss lines.

Yet oh wait a minute though no one wants to bash Fortune Jack because there promoting them.  Let's just pick on other soft swiss casinos.

Oh let's pick on other Soft Swiss casinos because we want ours to be the only one without shame.  Shall I point out the page with said max bet rule in place for you folks?

I common folks, if your going to be dumb enough to make a deposit.  Then take a bonus and can't be bothered to read the terms.  Then personally I think you get what is coming to you.  To me it's like throwing money away because ya know, there are boxes that say you can not take bonuses if you so desire.

Personally I"m all for those who would rather not take a bonus, because your free to do with your deposit as you please.  Otherwise you decide to take a bonus, I would all the important questions first before I even bother starting to play.

Like for example...

Is there a max bet that I can place? <-- this is now solved in all soft swiss casinos, but others like RTG they still haven't had this implemented yet

Are there disallowed games? <-- Make sure you understand whether it's a slots bonus or an all games bonus, and if it's an all games bonus then what games contribute what to the wagering requirement

What's the wagering requirement?  <-- to me anything over 30 times (deposit + bonus) is starting to become a money trap for the player, they'd have to hit some huge sums just to hope to finish the wagering?

Is there a time frame restriction on how long I have to finish the wagering of this bonus? <-- these are trap bonuses because they make you play them in a really short period of time

Then last but not least, is there a cash out restriction?  <--This one is especially important on free spin or free chips promotions, I'd hate to see someone win big and then get skunked because they had a max cash out restriction in place.

You have to remember these bonuses are provided as a courtesy to the players.  They aren't required of the casino.  They could just take your money straight up and not offer anything at all in return for it.

Yet I really hate folks point fingers at one casino, when pretty much all Soft Swiss casinos are in bed with each other in some form or fashion.

I agree, go over to the FJ thread and see my complaint about the .025 rule they installed. In fact they also added that unless you lose your deposit the bonus roll over doesn't count. Sure enough I took my monthly 100% bonus from them and play several hrs never touching the bonus amount, and the roll over didn't even count.

[bajing]

More and more casinos are adding this crappy .025 max bet rule with bonuses. I will be avoiding these casinos as they are predatory terms. If you accept a bet you should pay a bet. It seems most swiss soft casinos are adding this term. Just the amount of bonus wagering requirement alone, is heavily in the casino favor and to restrict someone to just .025 max bet is wrong. Especially if they are a table game player.

Every casino have their own rules for who want take a bonuses if you dont like the rules, easy never take a bonuses when you play in one casino. i guess 0.025 max bet is enough high and this way for break have a mind who have big bankroll can winwin easily.

[KickItDown]

I always avoided to apply for any kind of bonus. They just kill the game.

[brokens]

That said, I think people should avoid using bonuses in general. In almost all cases they're carefully designed to benefit the casino, while giving the player the impression it's good.

This is the best answer on casino bonusses.

They are useless!

That is correct these bonuses are almost no use for players. These sites basically want to attract more and more people to their site so they usually come up with many different promotions with some wagering requirements. Those requirements most of the time almost impossible to achieve. Before depositing money carefully check the terms of getting those bonus amount.

so true, recently already a lot website-website scam, their goal that many person play to website they and maybe already some many people been deceived in their site.

[HKGolden]

0.025 for max bet is really a very low amount, just ard 30 USD!?

so I think better just leave the bonus away, the wager requirement is high enough already...

[zimmah]

More and more casinos are adding this crappy .025 max bet rule with bonuses. I will be avoiding these casinos as they are predatory terms. If you accept a bet you should pay a bet. It seems most swiss soft casinos are adding this term. Just the amount of bonus wagering requirement alone, is heavily in the casino favor and to restrict someone to just .025 max bet is wrong. Especially if they are a table game player.

actually max bets aren't wrong.

casinos don't have unlimited money, so they can't pay out unlimited money.

what if you make a bet and win it, and the casino doesn't have enough money to pay?

that's what the casino is trying to avoid.

if they have a max bet limit it just means that they can and will pay when you win.

max bet rules is a way of giving the house a bit of favoritism but  it is a way of protecting themselves against people that try to take advantage of certain playing tactics . i dont agree with the max rule that many have started using but looking at things from the other perspective it does make just a small amount of sense on why they are putting it in place

I won't be playing at any casino that has this .025 btc max crap in place.

They do it to prevent martingale. It doesn't work, though..

why prevent martingale? It's not like martingale is a secret to win money. 

martingale has the exact same chances to lose as any other 'strategy'.

[Lucky7btc]

More and more casinos are adding this crappy .025 max bet rule with bonuses. I will be avoiding these casinos as they are predatory terms. If you accept a bet you should pay a bet. It seems most swiss soft casinos are adding this term. Just the amount of bonus wagering requirement alone, is heavily in the casino favor and to restrict someone to just .025 max bet is wrong. Especially if they are a table game player.

actually max bets aren't wrong.

casinos don't have unlimited money, so they can't pay out unlimited money.

what if you make a bet and win it, and the casino doesn't have enough money to pay?

that's what the casino is trying to avoid.

if they have a max bet limit it just means that they can and will pay when you win.

 same chances to lose as any other 'strategy'.

Then they are in the WRONG business. If you accept a bet. You should be ready to pay a bet. If I go into any real casino and use a bonus comp they give me. There is no bet limit or wager requirements. Its a straight up bet. Casinos shouldn't try and milk their way to the top. This is why its best to avoid those whom put these silly max bet terms on bonuses. If I deposit 50 and get 50. My 50 is just as important as theirs. In fact mines is real money from the time I deposit it. While theirs is just play money until wagering has been completed!

You have casinos such as FUN-CASINO that can't even pay winners who don't even use bonuses. Clearly casinos like that has no business being in the gambling business. 

[marlboroza]

and yet most of the FortuneJack posters who are promoting them in there sig campaign.  Guess what?  Fortune Jack also has a 0.025 BTC max bet rule in place too.  Like gee almost like it's universal across all soft swiss lines.

Yet oh wait a minute though no one wants to bash Fortune Jack because there promoting them.  Let's just pick on other soft swiss casinos.

Oh let's pick on other Soft Swiss casinos because we want ours to be the only one without shame.  Shall I point out the page with said max bet rule in place for you folks?

I common folks, if your going to be dumb enough to make a deposit.  Then take a bonus and can't be bothered to read the terms.  Then personally I think you get what is coming to you.  To me it's like throwing money away because ya know, there are boxes that say you can not take bonuses if you so desire.

Personally I"m all for those who would rather not take a bonus, because your free to do with your deposit as you please.  Otherwise you decide to take a bonus, I would all the important questions first before I even bother starting to play.

Like for example...

Is there a max bet that I can place? <-- this is now solved in all soft swiss casinos, but others like RTG they still haven't had this implemented yet

Are there disallowed games? <-- Make sure you understand whether it's a slots bonus or an all games bonus, and if it's an all games bonus then what games contribute what to the wagering requirement

What's the wagering requirement?  <-- to me anything over 30 times (deposit + bonus) is starting to become a money trap for the player, they'd have to hit some huge sums just to hope to finish the wagering?

Is there a time frame restriction on how long I have to finish the wagering of this bonus? <-- these are trap bonuses because they make you play them in a really short period of time

Then last but not least, is there a cash out restriction?  <--This one is especially important on free spin or free chips promotions, I'd hate to see someone win big and then get skunked because they had a max cash out restriction in place.

You have to remember these bonuses are provided as a courtesy to the players.  They aren't required of the casino.  They could just take your money straight up and not offer anything at all in return for it.

Yet I really hate folks point fingers at one casino, when pretty much all Soft Swiss casinos are in bed with each other in some form or fashion.

I agree, go over to the FJ thread and see my complaint about the .025 rule they installed. In fact they also added that unless you lose your deposit the bonus roll over doesn't count. Sure enough I took my monthly 100% bonus from them and play several hrs never touching the bonus amount, and the roll over didn't even count.

But it's stated in FJ ToS if you win without touching bonus you can withdraw money. You will lose bonus, but you will get your deposit + winnings - isn't that the reason why people are gambling in first place?
Or do you think it's better if you wager bonus first, than you win and you are unable to withdraw because wagering rule and probably lose before you wager?
IMHO this is much better.
edit* i understood their bonus rule this way..

[WarrEagle]

Does smell pretty fishy, I mean hell, If I wanted to lose 2 BTC at a pop, they should let me.

[Ghris]

Bonuses should not be touched. Almost ever.

I believe some casino's (non-btc only i think) have some good offers. Like 7red gave 50% or sometimes 100% deposit bonus, but the bonusmoney was just added as chips, never to be cashed out. So you deposit 100 euro, get 50 euro in chips on top of that. You can play with the 150 euro as long or short as you like, but when you withdraw you don't get to withdraw the 50 euro chips.

[RedX]

Does smell pretty fishy, I mean hell, If I wanted to lose 2 BTC at a pop, they should let me.

I think these kind of people are only in favor of max bet rules.They have a lot of bitcoins to bet so it depends on the players if he wants it or not.

[ASHLIUSZ]

Casinos were found much these days, but when it comes to online gambling more regulations were made the casinos function similar to real casinos. So we cannot make it an issue.

[meemiinii]

That said, I think people should avoid using bonuses in general. In almost all cases they're carefully designed to benefit the casino, while giving the player the impression it's good.

This is the best answer on casino bonusses.

They are useless!

exactly! they use bonuses to attract more users or gamblers.
these bonuses they offer are just some sort of a trap..
 that is why it is so important that we should read first the terms and conditions before we put money on a particular site.

[RichDaniel]

That said, I think people should avoid using bonuses in general. In almost all cases they're carefully designed to benefit the casino, while giving the player the impression it's good.

This is the best answer on casino bonusses.

They are useless!

exactly! they use bonuses to attract more users or gamblers.
these bonuses they offer are just some sort of a trap..
 that is why it is so important that we should read first the terms and conditions before we put money on a particular site.

Exactly, when I played 2% house edge slot, and try auto spin for 500 mbtc per 100 spins, I lost 50mbtc. It is rigged or I am not lucky? OFC i busted my 500 mbtc deposit in coinbet24. Damn bad luck.

[adaseb]

Most people never read the terms ever. But if you ever took the time to read the terms and understand them before making a deposit to get a bonus you would understand that's its generally never a good idea since there are very strict terms.

However most people just skim thru the terms and conditions and complain later.

[pinggoki]

That said, I think people should avoid using bonuses in general. In almost all cases they're carefully designed to benefit the casino, while giving the player the impression it's good.

This is the best answer on casino bonusses.

They are useless!

exactly! they use bonuses to attract more users or gamblers.
these bonuses they offer are just some sort of a trap..
 that is why it is so important that we should read first the terms and conditions before we put money on a particular site.

That's right... Most of casino were using bonuses to captive more players or gamblers. However, not all bonuses are fake there are few bonus are legit.
I suggest that you need to become wiser inorder to avoid the trap and read important details about them

[swogerino]

The max bet rule is always to stop martingale but people counting on martingale nowadays are non existent. The casinos should let a big max bonus as they have the house edge which will always make them profit. So I also think that these type of casinos that forces you to play only with a low max bet amount should be avoided.

[Barbut]

Most of casinos have this rule about max bet. I`m sure this rule is here to prevent martingale system, but I also think that max bet policy can prevent bankruptcy of the casino. They preventing some high roller to come and win some insane bet with insane odd`s.
Anyway I don`t care about this policy, I`m far far away from this max bet`s.

[veleten]

Most of casinos have this rule about max bet. I`m sure this rule is here to prevent martingale system, but I also think that max bet policy can prevent bankruptcy of the casino. They preventing some high roller to come and win some insane bet with insane odd`s.
Anyway I don`t care about this policy, I`m far far away from this max bet`s.

you,sir,are correct:most of the casinos with investment option (some with privately funded bankroll as well)limit max bet
it is due to the fact that a provably fair casino can sustain only that much of a lucky whale's winning max bets without a risk of closing down
another thing is when the casinos like bitstar are limiting your max bet on free spins or bonus deposits or any other slimy,stinky way to screw you out
of your winnngs in every possible ways
this has nothing to do with the risks mitigations,but pure borderline scam practices

[soul-impact]

Most of casinos have this rule about max bet. I`m sure this rule is here to prevent martingale system, but I also think that max bet policy can prevent bankruptcy of the casino. They preventing some high roller to come and win some insane bet with insane odd`s.
Anyway I don`t care about this policy, I`m far far away from this max bet`s.

You are right, though the casinos have a lot of capital, but in gambling there is always justice, luck can go to any player. So, they always choose a safe solution, they can own a tremendous amount of capital, but they do not want to lose too much by a player, so the limit is the best bet for them.