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April 17, 2017, 04:18:10 PM
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I always avoided to apply for any kind of bonus. They just kill the game.

I don't think so, because they are putting a lot of thrill to bet on the game because you are thinking that you are going to get this bonus if you are going to win, and it is not always, a certain gambling site will just give bonuses if they knew that the players feedback on their site is good, and making a large bank roll every day.

So, players would be more fired up on playing on the gambling sites that do have this bonuses, and will not kill the game like what you think, though we have different opinions.
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April 17, 2017, 09:04:25 PM
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For smaller players it does not a problem who do not play with high amount to earn money and who play only for fun while other professional gamblers who want to make money from their gambling will not rely on games which will have that lower max limit.
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April 17, 2017, 10:21:13 PM
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You have a good point i already tried a gambling casino before which it has a limitation for bets.. like in a dice game before..
I forgot the name of the dice site but honestly its not provably fair for me because sometimes if i am using martingale it will stop when reaching the limitation which is you can not recover your loses once you are setting 100% increase bet ..
Well unlike other games that you can bet how much you want and there is no limit those are site that actually for me are provably fair..
If they are starting a business they have a enough money and capital that they can pay even the high bets.
So that they can't experience any problem if they are giving maximum limits its provably fair because how about a people who are lose already a lot but they want to recover them all in one single blow.. but the maximum limits already reach . sometimes many people are complaining about this issue before.. they should always clear the terms ..

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April 17, 2017, 11:34:44 PM
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For smaller players it does not a problem who do not play with high amount to earn money and who play only for fun while other professional gamblers who want to make money from their gambling will not rely on games which will have that lower max limit.

yeah it supposed not to bother small player who play for fun, but actually by limit the bet the house got the advantage, sometimes bankroll and bet amount really affected our strategy to win, especially when you are using martingale technique, it is okay for casino to have max bet, because they also need to manage their deposit, they putting max bet, so they can afford to pay their customer, but if it set too low then we will have smaller chance to win


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April 17, 2017, 11:37:00 PM
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More and more casinos are adding this crappy .025 max bet rule with bonuses. I will be avoiding these casinos as they are predatory terms. If you accept a bet you should pay a bet. It seems most swiss soft casinos are adding this term. Just the amount of bonus wagering requirement alone, is heavily in the casino favor and to restrict someone to just .025 max bet is wrong. Especially if they are a table game player.

You should really make the title clearer.

Every casino has max bet rules. Even the ones in Vegas.

There is a limit to their bankroll and obviously if a whale comes and had 100x more money than the casino itself, he has a high chance of winning everything that the casino has.

What you're referring to is really max bet rules on bonuses. These are sneaky, i agree.
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April 17, 2017, 11:45:22 PM
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Most people never read the terms ever. But if you ever took the time to read the terms and understand them before making a deposit to get a bonus you would understand that's its generally never a good idea since there are very strict terms.

However most people just skim thru the terms and conditions and complain later.


It's not fair to blame players. In this specific case, the max-bet rule is located in the wrong section titled "free spins" which not only makes it hard to find but also unclear if it only applies to free spins or not.


And secondly, and most importantly -- it's completely reasonable that a person would expect limits are enforced. My casino has a max bet rule (currently 1 BTC), and if someone tries to bet more than that (which happens often...) the server returns an error and says it can't accept such a bet. But to accept the bet, and then confiscate the users funds (often unrelated) for terms of service violation is total and utter bullshit.   Doing so takes money for an innocent mistake or misunderstanding. It's one sided, it's predatory and it's outright scammy.

and yet most of the FortuneJack posters who are promoting them in there sig campaign.  Guess what?  Fortune Jack also has a 0.025 BTC max bet rule in place too.  Like gee almost like it's universal across all soft swiss lines.

Just to be clear, my issue isn't with max bet rules (that's fine). It's not enforcing them on the server, then confiscating money from players that I take issue with. I haven't heard any complaints about FJ in particular, but I'm happy to call them out if they're also scamming users.

Check out gamblingsitefinder.com for a decent list/rankings of crypto casinos. Note: I have no affiliation or interest in it, and don't even agree with all the rankings ... but it's the only uncorrupted review site I'm aware of.
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April 18, 2017, 05:11:59 AM
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I am completely against taking any bonuses at all including deposit/re-deposit bonuses which comes with heavy wager requirement. Why to get stucked with rules taking those bonuses if you can simply play with your deposit amount and take whatever you win without any restriction.

Also for small players max bet rules for bonus amount may not make any sense because they always try to bet small and try to meet wagering requirement to free up the bonus.
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April 18, 2017, 05:53:37 AM
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About time, it means they are not going to manipulate outcomes or cheat in any possible way, with this method you will no longer be able to use martingale or any other similar strategy. anyways casinos with house edge still going to be the only winner in the long run.
It's up to players to choose where to play and whatever kind of casino they play sooner or later they'll realize that they're not actually winning but just earning back what they've lost in the past.
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April 18, 2017, 07:01:29 AM
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I can highly agree. I don't even like casinos that offer (only) deposit bonuses as a rewarding system.
It usually has got a deadline sticked to it too, until you have to wager your founds many times.
This makes me feel a compulsion to play it through fast, which ends in a bust for me fast.

So I avoid these type of bonuses. I much more prefer wagering based bonuses tied with faucets. The more you wager, the more free money you get as a reward time to time. Much more confortable for me.
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April 18, 2017, 07:02:33 AM
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For smaller players it does not a problem who do not play with high amount to earn money and who play only for fun while other professional gamblers who want to make money from their gambling will not rely on games which will have that lower max limit.

Correct, because we have our own choices to make in this case. But if do really want to win this bonus, then we have to take the risk and put the maximum bet that a certain gambling site required, but, you have to think it twice because you are going to lose big in this thing, though you are going to win big in this thing if you are going to be lucky enough.
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April 18, 2017, 07:23:39 AM
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For smaller players it does not a problem who do not play with high amount to earn money and who play only for fun while other professional gamblers who want to make money from their gambling will not rely on games which will have that lower max limit.

Correct, because we have our own choices to make in this case. But if do really want to win this bonus, then we have to take the risk and put the maximum bet that a certain gambling site required, but, you have to think it twice because you are going to lose big in this thing, though you are going to win big in this thing if you are going to be lucky enough.

Bonuses are just a sugar coat of a casino so that gamblers will more attracted to play and bet high so that they can easily get the bonus requirements. The 0.025BTC max is a counter measure of a casino to prevent further loss on their side and to limit the chance of winning of players, Because they know that people will lose their patience on the long run and an error will be committed for them to lose on the game.
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April 18, 2017, 07:34:42 AM
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I remember I got suckered into something similar a few years ago and it wasn't even Bitcoin related.

I am sure you all heard of Forex trading but there is something called Forex binary options trading. Where you basically take bets if the EUR/USD will be higher or lower than now in the next 60 seconds, 15 minutes, 1 hour, etc.

There was a site that had a bonus where if you deposited $100 they would give you $200 for free. I automatically accepted the bonus, didn't read the terms. And after a few losses decided to withdraw about $80 or so whatever I had left in the account ($20 only was lost) turns out since I accepted the bonus, my funds were frozen until a certain criteria was met which was almost impossible to even break-even on.

So we have all been there.
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April 18, 2017, 02:48:50 PM
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More and more casinos are adding this crappy .025 max bet rule with bonuses. I will be avoiding these casinos as they are predatory terms. If you accept a bet you should pay a bet. It seems most swiss soft casinos are adding this term. Just the amount of bonus wagering requirement alone, is heavily in the casino favor and to restrict someone to just .025 max bet is wrong. Especially if they are a table game player.

And what about this max bet thing? I do not think that they scam us just by giving the max bet here. I believe that you should know that before you put some bet. Some of site is just tricky by not saying it on their ToS, if you never know what is max bet and min bet better you stop before you lose everything out. I find this mostly on slots games because this is the best way for them to cut the payout and withdrawal
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April 18, 2017, 06:47:32 PM
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There was a site that had a bonus where if you deposited $100 they would give you $200 for free. I automatically accepted the bonus, didn't read the terms. And after a few losses decided to withdraw about $80 or so whatever I had left in the account ($20 only was lost) turns out since I accepted the bonus, my funds were frozen until a certain criteria was met which was almost impossible to even break-even on.
I have also got similar experience few months ago but i have left binary trading not only due to this. Best way to not get stucked with all this requirement and get your deposit frozen is to not accept any bonus regardless how huge they are.
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April 19, 2017, 07:43:45 AM
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There was a site that had a bonus where if you deposited $100 they would give you $200 for free. I automatically accepted the bonus, didn't read the terms. And after a few losses decided to withdraw about $80 or so whatever I had left in the account ($20 only was lost) turns out since I accepted the bonus, my funds were frozen until a certain criteria was met which was almost impossible to even break-even on.
I have also got similar experience few months ago but i have left binary trading not only due to this. Best way to not get stucked with all this requirement and get your deposit frozen is to not accept any bonus regardless how huge they are.

Well, it can't help, since we didn't read their terms about the bonuses that they are giving, that is why it is important to know all the rules and terms about a certain thing to avoid such thing like this in the future, and we just have to take this as a lesson, for us to learn that it is a must to read things first before we take it as a go, because the curiosity kills the cat, as the saying said.
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April 19, 2017, 08:32:20 AM
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For smaller players it does not a problem who do not play with high amount to earn money and who play only for fun while other professional gamblers who want to make money from their gambling will not rely on games which will have that lower max limit.

yeah it supposed not to bother small player who play for fun, but actually by limit the bet the house got the advantage, sometimes bankroll and bet amount really affected our strategy to win, especially when you are using martingale technique, it is okay for casino to have max bet, because they also need to manage their deposit, they putting max bet, so they can afford to pay their customer, but if it set too low then we will have smaller chance to win
No this rules is a advantange for small player so big player with huge bankroll can't control the game with  all in every games because only a little poker player have a brave for all in against big player even not always like that's but i guess that's most happen in poker table.

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April 19, 2017, 10:21:16 AM
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Well for reasons why this is another reason why most countries like the USA has banned online gambling because of practises like this.

They probably got tired of people complaining to the regulation authorities so they just simply banned online bitcoin gambling all together. Because casinos were pulling practises like this and costing people money.
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April 19, 2017, 10:26:59 AM
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That said, I think people should avoid using bonuses in general. In almost all cases they're carefully designed to benefit the casino, while giving the player the impression it's good.
It is true that almost all of the bonuses and give aways are generally to lure people into a gambling site and i would rather be careful in not getting into casino's which have a minimum bet limit which is way higher than the normal situation because in most cases it is really hard to get those bonuses and have a good run with it because with the rule set you will almost loose all your deposit if your wage limit is higher and if you are having a shitty luck. Grin
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April 19, 2017, 01:08:36 PM
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Well for reasons why this is another reason why most countries like the USA has banned online gambling because of practises like this.

They probably got tired of people complaining to the regulation authorities so they just simply banned online bitcoin gambling all together. Because casinos were pulling practises like this and costing people money.

I do not know in other countries what the rules are, but in my country, gambling is considered a form of offense, anyone who gambles will be dealt with according to law, including game online. Bitcoin is no exception, if we are detected, you will be imprisoned immediately. However, it is not easy for bitcoin and its sites. We can use without being detected.





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April 19, 2017, 02:42:52 PM
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For smaller players it does not a problem who do not play with high amount to earn money and who play only for fun while other professional gamblers who want to make money from their gambling will not rely on games which will have that lower max limit.

Correct, because we have our own choices to make in this case. But if do really want to win this bonus, then we have to take the risk and put the maximum bet that a certain gambling site required, but, you have to think it twice because you are going to lose big in this thing, though you are going to win big in this thing if you are going to be lucky enough.

Bonuses are just a sugar coat of a casino so that gamblers will more attracted to play and bet high so that they can easily get the bonus requirements. The 0.025BTC max is a counter measure of a casino to prevent further loss on their side and to limit the chance of winning of players, Because they know that people will lose their patience on the long run and an error will be committed for them to lose on the game.

For the casinos, they have a tremendous amount of capital from the head, in addition, it is invested by a lot of other people. Most of the casinos I see have a very high maximum bet, it is around 5BTC, a huge number for any player like us. There is not even anyone to make such a big bet.
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