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The US President Donald trump was a disappointment to his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin and the entire Kremlin elite. In Moscow joyfully "drinking vodka" in honor of the victory of the American leader in the elections, but then realized his mistake – he will never be loyal to the Kremlin. The harshness and unpredictability of the US President has given Moscow a new reality. Putin understands – trump as a partner, not very stable ... he does not understand it. Remember, in that day when he won the elections in the state Duma, Zhirinovsky said a toast, they drank vodka, applauded in the Duma... what? After that, they all understand that it was a mistake that this man is not as loyal as they thought. And that's fine. I am very glad to see that Russia is beginning to understand this man is not her partner. This man suddenly tomorrow may not be a friend, but an enemy of Russia. https://youtu.be/pvvrBa6-c6A
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April 16, 2017, 11:39:06 AM |
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Trump is just a clown, and Russia has a real leader and she is not afraid of the threat from America. Russia is considered a superpower with a real leader.
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April 16, 2017, 11:48:06 AM |
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Trump is just a clown, and Russia has a real leader and she is not afraid of the threat from America. Russia is considered a superpower with a real leader.
Well, I doubt that she is afraid. I really doubt that Putin is a she. But god knows what might be hidden there. Now seriously. Please show me a group of people that Trump hasn't been a disappointment yet. The constant flipflop are pissing even his hardcore supporters are soon enough people around the world won't give a a word about his speeches. Because they know tomorrow he will say something different and act the other way around.
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April 16, 2017, 12:02:58 PM |
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Trump is just a clown, and Russia has a real leader and she is not afraid of the threat from America. Russia is considered a superpower with a real leader.
What are you proud of? Russian do not see reality and their judgments are based on falsified data that the Putin propaganda says on television. The defense budget is 10 times less than America. Technology of the Soviet era. About the economy in General can not speak.
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April 16, 2017, 12:14:20 PM |
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I think Trump is trying to show the US people that the allegations of him colluding with the Russians to hack the DNC servers are wrong and that he is no omes puppet.
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April 16, 2017, 12:47:11 PM |
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Trump has walked all over what he spoke of during the elections and I was really hoping to see better relations between Russia and US, probably a lot more people did too but recently we've seen nothing of that happening. Also I feel disappointed too a little.
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April 16, 2017, 02:30:33 PM |
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Trump has walked all over what he spoke of during the elections and I was really hoping to see better relations between Russia and US, probably a lot more people did too but recently we've seen nothing of that happening. Also I feel disappointed too a little.
Of course you can be disappointed, but after Trump showed the strength of his rating increased by 5 points. This suggests that Americans support the forceful scenario of resolving world conflicts. The slogans that Hillary will lead America to war is a fake.
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April 16, 2017, 07:26:16 PM |
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I think Trump is trying to show the US people that the allegations of him colluding with the Russians to hack the DNC servers are wrong and that he is no omes puppet.
The thing is he isn't just showing the US people that the allegations are false, he's proving them to be completely made up by the MSM in an attempt to delegitimize him as a leader of the most powerful nation in the world. The amount of things Trump has done at this point which would be detrimental to a Trump and Putin puppet relationship would be very high. He's not his puppet and the Leftist / Liberal scum just have to get over that one fake narrative. Gosh, wasen't Clinton the one who sold Uranium to the Russians for money to her 'foundation' He's a disappointment cause he won't take bribes like a Clinton or an Obama.
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April 16, 2017, 08:59:53 PM |
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Donald Trump as an American cannot be a puppy to Putin as all Americans has superiority complex to others nations and countries. Trump winning is for a purpose to American and I think he will prefer disappointing Putin and Russian than disappointing his own people especially those that vote him to power.
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April 17, 2017, 07:40:40 AM |
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Trump rather disappointed voters, because he can not really decide anything. Even if he has a weapon, he has no experience in political activities and he does not pose a threat to Russia. Just wants to show off before everyone.
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April 17, 2017, 07:54:23 AM |
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Trump rather disappointed voters, because he can not really decide anything. Even if he has a weapon, he has no experience in political activities and he does not pose a threat to Russia. Just wants to show off before everyone.
He has carefully avoided direct confrontation with Russia, till now. But I am waiting for his actions on the DPRK. Considering that the DPRK shares a land border with Russia, Trump's actions can have long lasting consequences.
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It's obvious fact that Putin and Russian leaders wanted Trump to defeat Clinton in presidential election. Russians even helped Trump to win. The Russians forgotten about Trump's unpredictability and the fact that he still has to primarily protect the interests of domestic lobbies, companies, interest groups etc. After all, Trump is American president, not Russian president ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) With Clinton and Obama things were predictable and expected. With Trump, you never know what can happen. It seems that the Russians are now beginning to understand it and realized their misjudgment about Trump.
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April 17, 2017, 10:17:32 AM |
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Trump rather disappointed voters, because he can not really decide anything. Even if he has a weapon, he has no experience in political activities and he does not pose a threat to Russia. Just wants to show off before everyone.
He has carefully avoided direct confrontation with Russia, till now. But I am waiting for his actions on the DPRK. Considering that the DPRK shares a land border with Russia, Trump's actions can have long lasting consequences. U.S. Vice President Mike Pence put North Korea on notice on Monday neither the United States nor South Korea would tolerate further missile and nuclear tests, with U.S. attacks in Syria and Afghanistan showing its resolve. Pence and South Korean acting president Hwang Kyo-ahn, speaking a day after a failed missile test by the North and two days after a huge display of missiles in Pyongyang, also said they would strengthen anti-North Korea defenses by moving ahead with the early deployment of the THAAD missile defense system. Pence is on the first stop of a four-nation Asia tour intended to show America's allies, and remind its adversaries, that the administration of President Donald Trump was not turning its back on the increasingly volatile region. "There was a period of strategic patience but the era of strategic patience is over." said Mike Pence.
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April 17, 2017, 10:50:13 AM |
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It's obvious fact that Putin and Russian leaders wanted Trump to defeat Clinton in presidential election. Russians even helped Trump to win. The Russians forgotten about Trump's unpredictability and the fact that he still has to primarily protect the interests of domestic lobbies, companies, interest groups etc. After all, Trump is American president, not Russian president ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) With Clinton and Obama things were predictable and expected. With Trump, you never know what can happen. It seems that the Russians are now beginning to understand it and realized their misjudgment about Trump. you believe in propaganda too much,are you serious about Putin or russians "helping" Trump to win the elections? russians didn't want Clinton to become the next(last) america's president as the political course was pretty clear and it could only mean inevitable war and not between Russia and US but between China and US but Russia never had any leverages or intent to "help" Trump it is like blaming the neighbour I don't like for failing my exams just because he looked at me the wrong way a day before
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I agree. Of course Russia favoured Trump over Clinton, that was pretty obvious. However Russia didn't help Trump to win the elections, it was the US population that was tired of the same old politics and never being heared.
But yeah, I hink Putin now wished Clinton would have been president. At least he would know what her actions and responses would be, instead of Trump who is a lose missile that can either go left, right or straight through.
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I agree. Of course Russia favoured Trump over Clinton, that was pretty obvious. However Russia didn't help Trump to win the elections, it was the US population that was tired of the same old politics and never being heared.
But yeah, I hink Putin now wished Clinton would have been president. At least he would know what her actions and responses would be, instead of Trump who is a lose missile that can either go left, right or straight through.
Predictability in politics is always a guarantee of stability and security. Even if the country aggressively, you always know what to do to not cross. In the case of c Trump it is impossible to predict his actions and it is bad not just for Putin.
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I agree. Of course Russia favoured Trump over Clinton, that was pretty obvious. However Russia didn't help Trump to win the elections, it was the US population that was tired of the same old politics and never being heared.
But yeah, I hink Putin now wished Clinton would have been president. At least he would know what her actions and responses would be, instead of Trump who is a lose missile that can either go left, right or straight through.
Predictability in politics is always a guarantee of stability and security. Even if the country aggressively, you always know what to do to not cross. In the case of c Trump it is impossible to predict his actions and it is bad not just for Putin. The world government dictates the actions of Trump as it is beneficial to them, but for the rest it is unpredictable.
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It's obvious fact that Putin and Russian leaders wanted Trump to defeat Clinton in presidential election. Russians even helped Trump to win. The Russians forgotten about Trump's unpredictability and the fact that he still has to primarily protect the interests of domestic lobbies, companies, interest groups etc. After all, Trump is American president, not Russian president ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) With Clinton and Obama things were predictable and expected. With Trump, you never know what can happen. It seems that the Russians are now beginning to understand it and realized their misjudgment about Trump. you believe in propaganda too much,are you serious about Putin or russians "helping" Trump to win the elections? russians didn't want Clinton to become the next(last) america's president as the political course was pretty clear and it could only mean inevitable war and not between Russia and US but between China and US but Russia never had any leverages or intent to "help" Trump it is like blaming the neighbour I don't like for failing my exams just because he looked at me the wrong way a day before Propaganda? So you are saying official reports from all our intelligence and domestic law enforcement agencies involved that have clearly said they interferred, are propoganda? There is no way we would have even mentioned a trade war with China, under Hillary. You would have seen a continuation of the last 8 years of China foreign policy, which is pretty hands off. We would never engage them militarily (even over those contested waters). Why do you think it's taking so long to complete the FBI investigation? ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Heads will roll, but not Trumps. They will protect the king til the end of the game. Bit now that the supreme Court seat has been filled, his usefulness with the GOP is running out. If he keeps playing with NK and Syria, Russia will become more vocal. He is losing friends at a pretty decent clip.
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April 17, 2017, 02:18:22 PM |
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I agree. Of course Russia favoured Trump over Clinton, that was pretty obvious. However Russia didn't help Trump to win the elections, it was the US population that was tired of the same old politics and never being heared.
But yeah, I hink Putin now wished Clinton would have been president. At least he would know what her actions and responses would be, instead of Trump who is a lose missile that can either go left, right or straight through.
Predictability in politics is always a guarantee of stability and security. Even if the country aggressively, you always know what to do to not cross. In the case of c Trump it is impossible to predict his actions and it is bad not just for Putin. The world government dictates the actions of Trump as it is beneficial to them, but for the rest it is unpredictable. I don't believe in the existence of a world government. It may of course be a conspiracy among the largest financiers and Industrialists, but this is different. In fact, the logic in the actions of Trump exists. It just can be seen already after Trump anything made.
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April 17, 2017, 03:23:42 PM |
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It's obvious fact that Putin and Russian leaders wanted Trump to defeat Clinton in presidential election. Russians even helped Trump to win. The Russians forgotten about Trump's unpredictability and the fact that he still has to primarily protect the interests of domestic lobbies, companies, interest groups etc. After all, Trump is American president, not Russian president ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) With Clinton and Obama things were predictable and expected. With Trump, you never know what can happen. It seems that the Russians are now beginning to understand it and realized their misjudgment about Trump. you believe in propaganda too much,are you serious about Putin or russians "helping" Trump to win the elections? russians didn't want Clinton to become the next(last) america's president as the political course was pretty clear and it could only mean inevitable war and not between Russia and US but between China and US but Russia never had any leverages or intent to "help" Trump it is like blaming the neighbour I don't like for failing my exams just because he looked at me the wrong way a day before Propaganda? So you are saying official reports from all our intelligence and domestic law enforcement agencies involved that have clearly said they interferred, are propoganda? There is no way we would have even mentioned a trade war with China, under Hillary. You would have seen a continuation of the last 8 years of China foreign policy, which is pretty hands off. We would never engage them militarily (even over those contested waters). Why do you think it's taking so long to complete the FBI investigation? ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Heads will roll, but not Trumps. They will protect the king til the end of the game. Bit now that the supreme Court seat has been filled, his usefulness with the GOP is running out. If he keeps playing with NK and Syria, Russia will become more vocal. He is losing friends at a pretty decent clip. have you read the said "reports" or just blindly trusting same people who have been "reporting" WMD in Iraq? there is nothing but pure,unadultered bs inside,the most damaging evidence being ... hacker group with the word bears in it, hell we don't know who they are but who but russians could they be? get real,my friend,the ones who control press controll news and the feeble minds
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