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April 20, 2017, 12:06:34 AM
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Antpool just dropped to 55ghs maybe Jihan is up to something again.

May be we can wait for now. Let us observe for some developments or anything related for pump or dump of LTC. Lets all hope for the best.

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April 20, 2017, 02:15:33 AM
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This is an exciting time for litecoin and the community. Here is a question for all of you. If Segwit in bitcoin does not activate will the bitcoin developers who planned on setting up a Lightning Network work on a Segwit activated litecoin? Will they bring all their research and technology so that they will be of use?

https://twitter.com/SatoshiLite/status/852618190655860737


I also saw this https://mobile.twitter.com/SatoshiLite/status/852623348769017856

It is now looking like all the developers who were working on the Lightning Network for bitcoin will transfer and continue development for litecoin. What of the others like Mimble Wimble? They also need segwit activated right?


No segwit and LN can not function trustless , ie: it is crap without the deadwit.
http://litecoinblockhalf.com/segwit.php

Segwit support is now below the 75% needed, segwit is deadwit.   Cheesy


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FYI:
Deadwit would let the Banking Cartels steal transaction fees directly from the miners,
Do you guys really believe the miners are that stupid.
That is why they will block deadwit with their last breath, if deadwit wins they all lose.
And the ones claiming adding deadwit will help everyone is a bunch of lying ass btc core trolls.

Please stop spreading the nonsense about banking cartels stealing transaction fees. That's garbage.
Segwit is a malleability fix, it brings 2nd layer scaling, signature optimization, more block space, less bandwidth, better utxo mgmt,
easier hardware wallets. It makes cryptocurrencies interoperable: Imagine being able to pay with Litecoin in a shop that accepts Bitcoin only - no problem if both coins have Lightning network. This would make BTC and LTC so much more useful that miners would own a lot more money.



You dear sir , are Clueless.

Deadwit would let the Banking Cartels steal transaction fees directly from the miners.


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April 20, 2017, 02:28:49 AM
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This is an exciting time for litecoin and the community. Here is a question for all of you. If Segwit in bitcoin does not activate will the bitcoin developers who planned on setting up a Lightning Network work on a Segwit activated litecoin? Will they bring all their research and technology so that they will be of use?

https://twitter.com/SatoshiLite/status/852618190655860737


I also saw this https://mobile.twitter.com/SatoshiLite/status/852623348769017856

It is now looking like all the developers who were working on the Lightning Network for bitcoin will transfer and continue development for litecoin. What of the others like Mimble Wimble? They also need segwit activated right?


No segwit and LN can not function trustless , ie: it is crap without the deadwit.
http://litecoinblockhalf.com/segwit.php

Segwit support is now below the 75% needed, segwit is deadwit.   Cheesy


 Cool
 
FYI:
Deadwit would let the Banking Cartels steal transaction fees directly from the miners,
Do you guys really believe the miners are that stupid.
That is why they will block deadwit with their last breath, if deadwit wins they all lose.
And the ones claiming adding deadwit will help everyone is a bunch of lying ass btc core trolls.

Please stop spreading the nonsense about banking cartels stealing transaction fees. That's garbage.
Segwit is a malleability fix, it brings 2nd layer scaling, signature optimization, more block space, less bandwidth, better utxo mgmt,
easier hardware wallets. It makes cryptocurrencies interoperable: Imagine being able to pay with Litecoin in a shop that accepts Bitcoin only - no problem if both coins have Lightning network. This would make BTC and LTC so much more useful that miners would own a lot more money.



You dear sir , are Clueless.

Deadwit would let the Banking Cartels steal transaction fees directly from the miners.


 Cool

FYI:
Don't like hearing the truth use the ignore button.  Kiss


Please explain, or link to a technically valid information source that's able to show such.  This is pure FUD from everything i've read about segwits use and implementation.
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April 20, 2017, 02:41:55 AM
Last edit: April 20, 2017, 03:05:29 AM by kiklo
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Please explain, or link to a technically valid information source that's able to show such.  This is pure FUD from everything i've read about segwits use and implementation.


Ok you asked for it.
Put your Reading Glasses on newbie.  Cheesy

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1782081.msg17909676#msg17909676
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Study History, this is exactly how banking was started

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=317658.msg17988745#msg17988745


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April 20, 2017, 05:11:29 AM
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Antpool just dropped to 55ghs maybe Jihan is up to something again.

May be we can wait for now. Let us observe for some developments or anything related for pump or dump of LTC. Lets all hope for the best.


it is possible that they are redirecting the hashrate to block SegWit for the timebeing and when it is successfully blocked then again redirect it to mining a more profitable option (back to bitcoin?), since they still have to make money too.
also it is possible that what people said about them using the ordered miners they were supposed to deliver, is true and they were actually mining with those equipment.

by the way where is the best place to check the litecoin hashrates?

Weak hands have been complaining about missing out ever since bitcoin was $1 and never buy the dip.
Whales are those who keep buying the dip.
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April 20, 2017, 09:44:38 AM
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it is possible that they are redirecting the hashrate to block SegWit for the timebeing and when it is successfully blocked then again redirect it to mining a more profitable option (back to bitcoin?), since they still have to make money too.
also it is possible that what people said about them using the ordered miners they were supposed to deliver, is true and they were actually mining with those equipment.

by the way where is the best place to check the litecoin hashrates?

Firstly a scrypt miner can't be redirected back to bitcoin (sha256), an ASIC chip is either designed to mine bitcoin or mine litecoin not both. There were a handful of ASICS built at one time that had two chips on board to mine either; but, they were highly inefficient and basically novelty items.

Secondly with approximately 30 percent of the hashrate and the most efficient LTC miners on the planet they are earning 42K US a day. Why are you suggesting that they aren't making money?

Here is a good place to monitor hashrate of various pools:

https://www.litecoinpool.org/pools

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April 20, 2017, 10:19:01 AM
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Go signal for the user activated softfork now (google it... add this to your wallet: -uacomment=UASF-SegWit-BIP148)

Do it. Just do it.

For the sake of both your investments and the future of cryptocurrencies.

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April 20, 2017, 11:11:44 AM
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You dear sir , are Clueless.

Deadwit would let the Banking Cartels steal transaction fees directly from the miners.

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Then ETH will have LN and they will steal YOUR Most TRANSACTIONS HAHAHAHAHA...(while your coin will become pice of shit )
NOW ETH:BTC is almost 1:1 with fiat $$$ mining

Banking Cartels - lol - FREE MARKET will do it

greedy miners/government/user won't stop technology from advancing BTC/LTC will be like telegram while others will play mobile phones (ETH)...

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April 20, 2017, 11:43:41 AM
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The segwit percentage is creeping back up - now at 69.4% for the last 24 hours. If it can just surge and hold at about 80% for a few days, it should have made up for the recent drop.

 
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April 20, 2017, 02:00:26 PM
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The segwit percentage is creeping back up - now at 69.4% for the last 24 hours. If it can just surge and hold at about 80% for a few days, it should have made up for the recent drop.

And price started moving up again, there may be some causation between SegWit signaling and price. Cheesy Cheesy

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April 20, 2017, 02:42:35 PM
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Signal slightly higher now at 71.59%.
Damn how miners can manipulate their coin's price
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April 20, 2017, 04:29:20 PM
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Signal slightly higher now at 71.59%.
Damn how miners can manipulate their coin's price

Lots of manipulation - it's amazing how a few tweets and changes in signalling can move the markets. I really hope they don't attempt to string this out to the next period, we've had enough drama!

 
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April 20, 2017, 08:53:27 PM
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The price may go up because of it. I personally hope that the coin goes down in value so I could purchase a bunch of it.
The price will go up without  a doubt when Litecoin activates segwit, it will be a bubble but I have no doubt that the price will be higher than it was before segwit, this will be a great testing ground for segwit and if it works maybe we will see an increased interest for segwit coming from bitcoin miners.
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April 21, 2017, 12:48:33 AM
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Please explain, or link to a technically valid information source that's able to show such.  This is pure FUD from everything i've read about segwits use and implementation.


Ok you asked for it.
Put your Reading Glasses on newbie.  Cheesy

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1782081.msg17909676#msg17909676
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Study History, this is exactly how banking was started

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=317658.msg17988745#msg17988745


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I actually greatly appreciate that, sensible explanations beat childish name calling any day Smiley

Read both those concerns, one requiring the 51% control of mining already has known potential exploits even in bitcoin so, although legitimate, comes with the territory to some extent.

The incredibly anachronistic fractional reserve analogy is intriguing, but it's not totally apt, since in this LN exploit it would require active intent to defraud (not that someone wouldn't given the opportunity).

The segwit as softfork issues I see as more concerning, less the irreversibility but more the potential chain breakdowns.  Immutability is the cornerstone of this whole technology.  With that said it's far from impossible to imagine, with active code development, the kludges being ameliorated or even eliminated over time.

I'm no fan of fractional reserve banking, but see much of this concern hinged on some EXTREME "what ifs", and even then if the tech fails and LTC goes with it, then it will serve as a lesson for BCC and other teams to learn from.

Segwit isn't sexy, or even remotely pretty, but it does seek to address long term usage issues in existing blockchain systems.  Ther MIGHT be better solutions, but it seems insane to not try it.  I have some money in LTC and am OK gambling that on code that might help all of us, even if that help is only learning the hard way it doesn't work.
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April 21, 2017, 02:55:46 AM
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The price may go up because of it. I personally hope that the coin goes down in value so I could purchase a bunch of it.
The price will go up without  a doubt when Litecoin activates segwit, it will be a bubble but I have no doubt that the price will be higher than it was before segwit, this will be a great testing ground for segwit and if it works maybe we will see an increased interest for segwit coming from bitcoin miners.



Absolutely no doubt the price will go because of it.
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April 21, 2017, 03:21:40 AM
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litecoin SegWit will be activated soon enough and one miner can not prevent it.

remember that before Jihan started to prevent LTC SegWit, the rest of the miners we all supporting SegWit and everyone was getting on board. the percentage of support was above 80% and nearing the 90% point and LTC only needed 75%!

if Jihan continues messing with LTC SegWit, the route of UASF can be taken and since there is still a lot of hashrate behind it (the whole miners except 1) it can smoothly activate. he just slowed things down.


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April 21, 2017, 06:24:51 AM
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litecoin SegWit will be activated soon enough and one miner can not prevent it.

remember that before Jihan started to prevent LTC SegWit, the rest of the miners we all supporting SegWit and everyone was getting on board. the percentage of support was above 80% and nearing the 90% point and LTC only needed 75%!

if Jihan continues messing with LTC SegWit, the route of UASF can be taken and since there is still a lot of hashrate behind it (the whole miners except 1) it can smoothly activate. he just slowed things down.

Let's all wait and braced up for the pump of LTC. Smiley

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April 21, 2017, 07:30:29 AM
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litecoin SegWit will be activated soon enough and one miner can not prevent it.

remember that before Jihan started to prevent LTC SegWit, the rest of the miners we all supporting SegWit and everyone was getting on board. the percentage of support was above 80% and nearing the 90% point and LTC only needed 75%!

if Jihan continues messing with LTC SegWit, the route of UASF can be taken and since there is still a lot of hashrate behind it (the whole miners except 1) it can smoothly activate. he just slowed things down.

Let's all wait and braced up for the pump of LTC. Smiley


Indeed, this SegWit activation creates an excitement to LTC community. Hoping to see a 14-20usd soon.  Grin

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April 21, 2017, 12:16:24 PM
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Good news a resolution reached and Bitmain is on board.

https://medium.com/@Litecoinchina/litecoin-global-roundtable-resolution-001-2017-c67b729bc06d

Shouldn't be long before all major pools are signalling. They tested for a few blocks yesterday so are ready to go.
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April 21, 2017, 02:40:47 PM
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Good news a resolution reached and Bitmain is on board.

https://medium.com/@Litecoinchina/litecoin-global-roundtable-resolution-001-2017-c67b729bc06d

Shouldn't be long before all major pools are signalling. They tested for a few blocks yesterday so are ready to go.

Well the price is moving up nicely on the back of that.

Unfortunately the signalling is back down to 62.4% in the last 24 hours. They are now going to be more than 80% signalling for the rest of this period to make up for it.

 
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