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April 17, 2017, 11:49:13 PM |
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I heard a few months ago that coinbase do not have any fees of transaction so in my mind it was a best alternative of xapo but now members here are saying that coinbase will charge some fees so I want another alternative to xapo with which I will pay to some micro workers without any fees. Please recommend me a secure and trusted wallet if there is any existed.
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April 18, 2017, 06:13:27 AM |
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Sending bitcoin between two coinbase account (offchain) is still free like before, they have added fee only to withdraw out your bitcoin to bitcoin address (onchain) of another wallet. Read more here https://support.coinbase.com/customer/en/portal/articles/2109597Coinbase does not charge a fee to use our Hosted Digital Currency Wallet service. Transfers of virtual currency to an address off the Coinbase platform may incur network transaction fees, such as bitcoin miner’s fees, which Coinbase may pass through to you. Any such transfer fees will be disclosed to you at the time of the transaction.
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April 18, 2017, 08:19:51 AM |
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Indeed Coinbase account is no longer offering paying the network fees unless you are making a transaction with another coinbase user. This changed a month ago along with other modifications which in my opinion make their service the worst. I would like to remind you about the problems they had with the IRS and their new verification process which require live webcam and on top of that, you don't even control your private keys. Go with GreenAddress If you need a web wallet, Electrum for desktop and Mycelium for Android/iOS.
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April 19, 2017, 05:33:19 AM |
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Yes it is true, both xapo and coinbase are now charging fees for external transactions although you shouldn't be choosing a wallet by this factor . I'm guessing that you will be paying for many workers thats why if you want you can reduce the miner fee if you do batch transactions .
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April 19, 2017, 09:30:07 AM |
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I heard a few months ago that coinbase do not have any fees of transaction so in my mind it was a best alternative of xapo but now members here are saying that coinbase will charge some fees so I want another alternative to xapo with which I will pay to some micro workers without any fees. Please recommend me a secure and trusted wallet if there is any existed.
Sending btc from coinbase to coinbase remain free iirc. I am not using any of those two wallet you mentioned tho. I know a wallet which does not have any fee (for minimal fee) on sending to any wallet. It's coins.ph I don't know if it will work or if it is even available/accessible in other countries so you have to check it yourself if it will work for you. It's basically an exchange wallet here in the Philippines but it also works fine as just using it as a simple wallet.
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April 19, 2017, 11:14:22 AM |
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Yes it is true, both xapo and coinbase are now charging fees for external transactions although you shouldn't be choosing a wallet by this factor . I'm guessing that you will be paying for many workers thats why if you want you can reduce the miner fee if you do batch transactions .
yeah your right both coinbase and xapo added fees now its sad for me because i'm both user of his wallet. But now i'm using coins.ph that you can send without paying fees or miners. Coins.ph would take the fees but its suddenly hard to confirm because they our just using small fees 40k sats
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April 19, 2017, 12:45:45 PM |
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I do not think you will find any wallets which do not charge a fee any longer to send out and not transfer in a timely manner. That is impossible now with miners charging over 1mbtc per send now to have it confirm within an hour. Tried it out yesterday with electrum and it took over 5 hours to have my 9mbtc send finally confirm.
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April 20, 2017, 12:26:49 AM |
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i don't think we will have alternative of xapo because most of wallet should use fees to make a transaction even to receive bitcoin they also ask some fees, because for get confirmation the transaction should give high fees so if the wallet service owner not charge some fees, they will bankrupt ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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April 20, 2017, 01:07:37 AM |
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I don't recommend it, but some gambling sites (nitrogensports.eu, cloudbet.com, directbet.eu, sportsbet.io, and some others) don't make you pay a fee when you withdraw, so you could use them. Directbet might not be a bad choice as they kinda advertise it as a service, but I don't think the other sites would be happy if you did it. You might risk getting banned from the sites, or asked to pay the fees that you spent.
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April 21, 2017, 06:41:03 AM |
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Have you tried https://www.asmoney.com/ before? Micro Payments : Due to the growing rate of Bitcoin, sending amounts less than the network fee is not wise. Micro payments become useful because there are no fees for sending crypto currencies in AsMoney No Fees : There are no fees regarding crypto currencies, and only 0.5% fee is charged for local currency transfers. The best thing about this service = Interest of 4% on your money. Give them a try and let us know what you think about their service. I used them a while ago and I did get some interest.
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April 21, 2017, 06:52:56 AM |
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I don't recommend it, but some gambling sites (nitrogensports.eu, cloudbet.com, directbet.eu, sportsbet.io, and some others) don't make you pay a fee when you withdraw, so you could use them. Directbet might not be a bad choice as they kinda advertise it as a service, but I don't think the other sites would be happy if you did it. You might risk getting banned from the sites, or asked to pay the fees that you spent.
Their withdrawals are pretty quick as well, and it's unlikely that they would ban you in most situations as long as you don't completely screw them over by doing loads of dust payments. Basically, that just shows that the only way to avoid fees is by exploiting services that probably don't want to do it for you. You'd be better off just paying the miner fees like you're supposed to instead of trying to do that. If you want to minimise them though, you can send batch transactions with Electrum to multiple people at once and avoid receiving many dust inputs so that your transaction size won't be too high.
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April 21, 2017, 10:53:55 AM |
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Yeah right, today I've been several times sent the bitcoin through coinbase and they charge, I noticed the fee is 38k. all web wallets charging 38k fees, it does not matter that important transactions can be faster.
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April 24, 2017, 06:11:31 PM |
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Yes it is true, both xapo and coinbase are now charging fees for external transactions although you shouldn't be choosing a wallet by this factor . I'm guessing that you will be paying for many workers thats why if you want you can reduce the miner fee if you do batch transactions .
yeah your right both coinbase and xapo added fees now its sad for me because i'm both user of his wallet. But now i'm using coins.ph that you can send without paying fees or miners. Coins.ph would take the fees but its suddenly hard to confirm because they our just using small fees 40k sats You can only send a transcation without fee if its at least .002 btc and If you don't add a fee it might take longer . As far as I know, coins.ph is exclusively for filipino residents, I doubt OP will get himself verified and use its full features although it also has its service to other countries on southeast asia like: Malaysia: https://coins.my and Thailand: https://coins.co.th/
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April 26, 2017, 08:33:45 AM |
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Indeed Coinbase account is no longer offering paying the network fees unless you are making a transaction with another coinbase user. This changed a month ago along with other modifications which in my opinion make their service the worst. I would like to remind you about the problems they had with the IRS and their new verification process which require live webcam and on top of that, you don't even control your private keys. Go with GreenAddress If you need a web wallet, Electrum for desktop and Mycelium for Android/iOS. I second the GreenAddress suggestion. But blockchain.info is good enough for small amounts. Youre supposed to use small amounts for webwallets anyway and use an offline wallet to safely store your real BTC savings.
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April 29, 2017, 11:38:21 AM |
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Indeed Coinbase account is no longer offering paying the network fees unless you are making a transaction with another coinbase user. This changed a month ago along with other modifications which in my opinion make their service the worst. I would like to remind you about the problems they had with the IRS and their new verification process which require live webcam and on top of that, you don't even control your private keys. Go with GreenAddress If you need a web wallet, Electrum for desktop and Mycelium for Android/iOS. I second the GreenAddress suggestion. But blockchain.info is good enough for small amounts. Youre supposed to use small amounts for webwallets anyway and use an offline wallet to safely store your real BTC savings. he is not asking for a wallet to send small amounts but he is asking for a place to send any amount no matter smaller or larger but without any fees. For that coinbase was a good choice but that is now not available you can now create a xapo account from your sibling name and can get the permission from him to use that.
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April 29, 2017, 01:04:02 PM |
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Indeed Coinbase account is no longer offering paying the network fees unless you are making a transaction with another coinbase user. This changed a month ago along with other modifications which in my opinion make their service the worst. I would like to remind you about the problems they had with the IRS and their new verification process which require live webcam and on top of that, you don't even control your private keys. Go with GreenAddress If you need a web wallet, Electrum for desktop and Mycelium for Android/iOS. I second the GreenAddress suggestion. But blockchain.info is good enough for small amounts. Youre supposed to use small amounts for webwallets anyway and use an offline wallet to safely store your real BTC savings. he is not asking for a wallet to send small amounts but he is asking for a place to send any amount no matter smaller or larger but without any fees. For that coinbase was a good choice but that is now not available you can now create a xapo account from your sibling name and can get the permission from him to use that. Yes Indeed but you can clearly see in the first quote from MadGamer that no reputable wallet which offers that kind of feature exist as of now that's why at the end he suggested a good wallet of course different with what OP asks . Pinkflower just added a few other wallets . Isn't it the the main purpose of quoting? Why are you acting like you're new to this? Anyways, be careful at choosing online/web wallets there can be some big changes in the future unlike with desktop/android ones .
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May 05, 2017, 09:36:59 AM |
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Currently many options we can choose in addition to the xapo, I think coinbase and btc.com is a good choice, all of them safe if we activate the 2FA. for cost delivery is usually around 30 k-75 k
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May 05, 2017, 10:59:14 AM |
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I heard a few months ago that coinbase do not have any fees of transaction so in my mind it was a best alternative of xapo but now members here are saying that coinbase will charge some fees so I want another alternative to xapo with which I will pay to some micro workers without any fees. Please recommend me a secure and trusted wallet if there is any existed.
Since you have mentioned the purpose is payment to micro workers why not try microwallets. FaucetHub is the most secure, but they do charge 1.5% fee, like 0.00015 for 0.01, not much. Epay is free. You can also try Asmoney.
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May 05, 2017, 12:21:47 PM |
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I don't think there is any wallet that will pay your fees, since recently they have just become so ridiculously high. What I would recommend is you asking your users to make Coinbase accounts just for this, so you could send them payments through Coinbase for a low fee.
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May 05, 2017, 05:36:37 PM |
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Currently many options we can choose in addition to the xapo, I think coinbase and btc.com is a good choice, all of them safe if we activate the 2FA. for cost delivery is usually around 30 k-75 k
These are the last option we can use. Last couple of days I'm also using btc.com. This feature just awesome. Besides this using coinbase, for only that there're sending bitcoin between two coinbase account is free like before. There may alternative of xapo but we should try to understand and consider the fee as it's necessary.
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