⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions

[LUCKMCFLY]

After Real Madrid succeeded in bringing in Mbappe for free from PSG, this will further increase competition on the front lines, he is certain to immediately get a guarantee to fill the main squad. Joselu will be the second option for Real Madrid, he will spend more time on the bench next season. Real Madrid which has a busy schedule, provides a breath of fresh air for Joselu, Ancelotti will rotate in several matches which will give Joselu a playing slot.
Joselu was the hero of Real Madrid victory several times, he managed to change the outcome of the match after playing as a substitute. He is an experienced player, but his age makes it difficult for him to compete with younger players.

I don’t know, it seems to me that everything will be fine, the basis of the attack will be Vinicius and Mbappe, Rodrigo may need to move a little lower to Vinnicius, everything will depend on what formation Ancelotti will play with. Don’t forget that Cross left the team and this place is in the middle line, he will need to be replaced by someone. Whatever it is, it’s better to have a problem like this when you have a lot of players and you decide who to give the opportunity to play, than like PSG when they were left without a striker and you’re thinking about who to replace him with.

Everybody knows Mbappe is a superstar. But he's just one piece of the puzzle. Ancelotti has to figure out how to make the greatest players in the world communicate. Thats the challenge, and thats what makes it fun. You have Vini, Rodrygo, Bellingham, Joselu - all hungry for goal. And who's gonna fill Kroos' shoes? Thats a big question. But thats what makes a great team, right? Everyone's gotta step up.

Ancelotti is no fool now, that much is clear. He's gonna find the right formation. He will change, adjust. Possibly there is more possession or counterattacking. Who knows?

Well, it's no wonder we speculate about Kross's position. It's a real shame that he retired. When I see him playing in Germany in this Euro I say to myself, how is it possible that he retires with so much football under his belt and still able to delight us with his great plays? How is it possible? But anyway, with Ancelotti, Madrid will be able to find a way to put together a suitable formation without him until they find the right one. And with Mbappé, well, they already have someone to put up front. There are many players who can accompany Mbappé, but to be honest, I think that Madrid already needs a very good midfielder, because for me the base of Madrid has always been its midfielders.

[Palakka]

Well, it's no wonder we speculate about Kross's position. It's a real shame that he retired. When I see him playing in Germany in this Euro I say to myself, how is it possible that he retires with so much football under his belt and still able to delight us with his great plays? How is it possible? But anyway, with Ancelotti, Madrid will be able to find a way to put together a suitable formation without him until they find the right one. And with Mbappé, well, they already have someone to put up front. There are many players who can accompany Mbappé, but to be honest, I think that Madrid already needs a very good midfielder, because for me the base of Madrid has always been its midfielders.

Kross decision to retire is of course quite surprising to us, even though he is no longer young but his performance and performance in playing is still very good at the moment, we can see how he is still able to compete in international level matches when indeed he has decided to retire from the club at this time, his ability to manage the midfield of course makes the Germans so far very solid in each of their matches,  Currently Kross has decided to retire from Madrid, so Madrid must be able to get a players to replace Kross in the midfield next season.

Madrid may still have some young midfielders and of course Ancelotti will try to take advantage of them later to fill the void left by Kross, Ancelotti of course has a lot of experience in shaping the squad even though they have a shortage of players, so I think Ancelotti will probably do the same to be able to strengthen their midfield late,so far, Ancelotti has closed the void of the central striker by plotting Bellingham a little more forward than his original position so far, so that Madrid can be quite sharp and also have no difficulty in scoring goals so far.

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Well, it's no wonder we speculate about Kross's position. It's a real shame that he retired. When I see him playing in Germany in this Euro I say to myself, how is it possible that he retires with so much football under his belt and still able to delight us with his great plays? How is it possible? But anyway, with Ancelotti, Madrid will be able to find a way to put together a suitable formation without him until they find the right one. And with Mbappé, well, they already have someone to put up front. There are many players who can accompany Mbappé, but to be honest, I think that Madrid already needs a very good midfielder, because for me the base of Madrid has always been its midfielders.

He is a player full of talent, every movement has meaning and his presence on the pitch helps the team a lot. He is an important player in the team, his ability to maintain the rhythm of the game is also very beneficial for the team, but he has chosen his own path even though there are many fans who still want to enjoy his beautiful game. Real Madrid has lost one of its best midfielders, I believe he has done his best and Real Madrid can accept his decision which seems surprising to football fans.

After Toni Kroos decided to retire from Real Madrid, it won't be long before Modric will also leave Real Madrid due to his getting older. Now that Real Madrid is starting to find a replacement for Toni Kroos in Jude Bellingham, Ancelotti also has several other midfielders who can defend the midfield well.

[Leviathan.007]

Adrien Rabiot contract with Juventus will be expired this June but he and Juventus hasn't reach to agreement for new contract because it says Adrien Rabiot want his salary increase but Juventus feel the salary which he want is very high then Juventus could not comply with the demand of Adrien Rabiot and some people has starting to speculate his future because the negotiations on new contract deadlocked then most likely Adrien Rabiot will be leave this summer as free transfer status

It says Manchester United is really want to gets him because after some of their midfielder has decided to leave this summer then Manchester United will look for new midfielder and one of their player target is Adrien Rabiot and currently Adrien Rabiot still focus to Euro Cup but he left everything to his agent for this transfer actually Adrien Rabiot was into Manchester United radar since last season even he almost moved at that time but now if this rumour is true i think this is good transfer for Manchester United because finally they can gets the player they want without spending money

So far Rabiot has not discussed his future with Juventus, although there are indeed talks that took place in the middle of last season between Rabiot and Juventus, but the two have not found an agreement so far because it is related to the salary demand and also a large commission from Rabiot to Juventus at this time,  Juventus who are currently starting to target other midfielders to anticipate if indeed Rabiot is reluctant to extend his contract together Juventus, so far Juventus are still keen to keep Rabiot in their first squad next season, but anticipating all possible possibilities of course Juventus are starting to rush to complete their deal with Aston Villa to sign Douglas Luiz.

Remembering Rabiot contract which will expire at the end of June 2024 certainly makes many teams start to approach him, getting a great player on a free transfer is of course a good thing because that way the club can save money but can still strengthen their squad next season, Manchester United is a team that is reportedly starting to establish communication with Rabiot at this time,  But it seems that all the clarity about whether Rabiot will stay in Turin or leave for another club will of course be obtained after the Euro is over.

Adrien Rabiot is linked to Real Madrid and he is going to be the next interesting option for play there for loan. However he is not the first priority for Real Madrid yet and if they lose Dani Ceballos and this player leaves the team, they will start talking about Rabiot to hire this French player for the next season.
So far, Rabiot hasn't accepted the 7.5 million euros offer from Juventus to extend his contract, he has been playing for Rabiot Juventus since 2019.

[Lannakosa]

Adrien Rabiot is linked to Real Madrid and he is going to be the next interesting option for play there for loan. However he is not the first priority for Real Madrid yet and if they lose Dani Ceballos and this player leaves the team, they will start talking about Rabiot to hire this French player for the next season.
So far, Rabiot hasn't accepted the 7.5 million euros offer from Juventus to extend his contract, he has been playing for Rabiot Juventus since 2019.

At the end of June, Rabiot's contract with Juventus expires and he will be able to leave as a free agent, so there is no point in Real Madrid renting him. Juventus, of course, wants to extend his contract, this is an oversight on their part, they should have thought about it earlier, and not delayed it until the very end. And Real Madrid is now considering Rabiot to replace Kroos, and even more so if he joins the team as a free agent, then I think they can offer him better conditions than Juventus.

[X-ray]

Source: https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1804056911773392900

Nico Williams' release clause is 58 million euros and currently quite a lot of teams are interested in signing him. But the loudest rumors are from Barcelona who have been monitoring this player for so long and I think with their financial constraints it will be very difficult to sign him. Apart from that, I once heard an interview with Lamine Yamal who said that he would be very happy if he could play with Nico Williams at Barcelona.

On the other hand, the president of Athletic Bilbao responded to the rumors in a relaxed manner and he added that there was no need to worry about these rumors and he also said that Nico Wlliams was very happy at Athletic Bilbao. But I think everything could change if a club dares to redeem this clause and it is not impossible that management will release it.

Nonetheless, it is entirely up to the player; William may still leave Bilbao due to a personal request. Nico Williams' contract is about to expire, but there is no word on whether he and Bilbao are in talks to extend it. As far as I know, Bilbao has offered him a three-year contract extension, but Williams has not responded.

Barcelona could still sign him during the next summer transfer season. Nico Williams has very good relationships with some of Barcelona's players on the Spanish national team, so he still has a chance to join Barcelona.

[Despairo]

Well, it's no wonder we speculate about Kross's position. It's a real shame that he retired. When I see him playing in Germany in this Euro I say to myself, how is it possible that he retires with so much football under his belt and still able to delight us with his great plays? How is it possible? But anyway, with Ancelotti, Madrid will be able to find a way to put together a suitable formation without him until they find the right one. And with Mbappé, well, they already have someone to put up front. There are many players who can accompany Mbappé, but to be honest, I think that Madrid already needs a very good midfielder, because for me the base of Madrid has always been its midfielders.

Yeah, as we can see he has 95% pass accuracy and even 99% when he met Scotland, it's really disappointing to see a great player that can still able to play choose to retire. It's make sense if he retired because he has a problem with health issues or something like that, but he retired without any reason lol. He might want to start a business and enjoy his life in slow living, however many people still want to watch him!


https://twitter.com/Allsportztv/status/1803723622491516954

[Ayers]

https://x.com/DeadlineDayLive/status/1803452907464908840

Big change for Liverpool. I hope he will be able to prove that this is a positive change that Liverpool has made. Of course, we have to wait and see how Arne Slot is able to perform. And by that, I mean how much better results he is actually able to bring in. Klopp was the coach of Liverpool for a long time. After a long time, Liverpool is welcoming a new coach. I hope everything goes smoothly for him. But of course, there are always going to be bumps in the road. Let's just wait and see how he is able to handle those. Let's also see what kind of changes he makes as the coach of Liverpool.

[Oluwa-btc]

Jim Ratcliffe talked about how United spends so much money on players and have nothing to show for. This was something we have talked about for like a decade now, it is good to see a person who knows what they are talking about at the head of a good team. United has been a good team for so long and since Glazers family took over, they have been not so great.

I think he is going to make some changes, put more people who understands about football in charge, and they will try to make transfers that have a future, like a chance to actually worth something. They are lucky because they have a few good young players they can build around, they just need to get players who will be future stars, and gain value at united. It's very hard to buy a player for United, make them play for United, and then drop in value.

He also talked about how Erik Ten Hag is not the problem with Manchester United. That's good news so a lot can now see that, they all judged Erik Ten Hag wrongly despite having a first season that was good and a then, the second season filled with shambles and ended as a disaster in the Premier League Competition.
It's good and glad to see that they'll be working hand in hand with Erik Ten Hag to get Manchester United at the top back to competing at the highest levels of all European Competitions

Really? Lazio really wants Mason Greenwood? What happened with his move to Juventus? What about the case of Jadon Sancho? How well has he gone?
For the case of Mudryk, He should get to know what plans the coach has for him. I believe he is just too good to continually sit on the bench.

[Minor Miner]

Juventus overtaken Lazio in the race to achieve Mason Greenwood from Manchester United

First of all, I think either of these two teams are actually going to be a better destination for Mason Greenwood compared to Manchester United. And if I have to compare between these two teams, I will say that Juventus is actually the better team. With all the changes that Juve are making for Thiago Motta, they are going to be very competitive in the upcoming season. So Juventus is going to be a good destination for a player like him. But it can obviously go the other way. It is very much possible that these changes are not going to work for Thiago Motta. I guess in that case Greenwood will have to be patient if he does end up going to Juventus.

Source: ESPN

[Velvet78]

Will there be a new format for the Club World Championship next season?

I have found this related to FIFA World Cup. It looks like there is a new format as of 2025. 

https://www.fifa.com/en/tournaments/mens/club-world-cup/usa-2025/articles/teams-dates-venue-groups-draw-matches-tickets


There are new rumours out like Liverpool is interested in Arda Güler.

https://www.teamtalk.com/news/liverpool-gain-hope-explosive-brazilian-transfer-internal-war-breaks-out-real-madrid-kylian-mbappe-signing

It is interesting to hear about. However I still don't expect Real Madrid to accept a deal or Arda himself to ask for leaving. He is very happy with his development at Real Madrid. If I'm not wrong Manchester United also tried their luck with an offer but it was rejected without hesitation. 

[CryptoBuds]

Source: https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1804056911773392900

Nico Williams' release clause is 58 million euros and currently quite a lot of teams are interested in signing him. But the loudest rumors are from Barcelona who have been monitoring this player for so long and I think with their financial constraints it will be very difficult to sign him. Apart from that, I once heard an interview with Lamine Yamal who said that he would be very happy if he could play with Nico Williams at Barcelona.

On the other hand, the president of Athletic Bilbao responded to the rumors in a relaxed manner and he added that there was no need to worry about these rumors and he also said that Nico Wlliams was very happy at Athletic Bilbao. But I think everything could change if a club dares to redeem this clause and it is not impossible that management will release it.

I am actually surprised that the big clubs have still not shown any kind of interest in Williams! He is a young player. Probably only 21 years old. And he is someone who will be able to give his service for a long time to the club that he goes to. It is actually a surprise that nobody has shown that much interest in him so far. But as time goes on, I think some big clubs are actually going to get Nico Williams before the season actually starts. Right now this amount, 58 million is actually not a very big one. We have seen a lot of young players have released clause which is almost about 100 million. A club should not have any problems spending this much money to get him, if it is Arsenal then there will be no question.

[hyudien]

Didn’t Mason Greenwood have a lot of problems with Erik ten Hag? He also expressed his feelings about leaving Old Trafford if I recall correctly. So I think it is going to be good for Manchester United because they will be able to sell him.

This is false

The only reason that he was dropped out of the main squad was because he was charged with sexual assault offence from his ex girlfriend thus the club dropped him to save their public image. He had nothing to do with Ten Hag and obviously if Manchester United ever put him in the main squad again, Ten Hag would obviously be using him as his lineup

Back then he was one of the top choices for Ten Hag though but given that the club want to save their reputation, he might be sold to another club

This is all Greenwood's fault, he has hurt his own career by doing things he should have avoided. This made the coach and the team disappointed with him because whether he liked it or not, it tarnished his name, so Manchester United also considered that. In my opinion, this is a wise thing, because apart from appearance, a player's brush must also be maintained, both on and off the field. And Greenwood must be responsible for what he did.
I think any team would do the same thing if their players committed off-field offenses that required them to be punished. Because the team itself will definitely save their reputation. This is a very natural thing for them to do, because a team will prioritize their reputation. Now it's better for them to let him go if a team is interested in bringing him in, because at Manchester United he doesn't contribute any more now.

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Source: https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1804056911773392900

Nico Williams' release clause is 58 million euros and currently quite a lot of teams are interested in signing him. But the loudest rumors are from Barcelona who have been monitoring this player for so long and I think with their financial constraints it will be very difficult to sign him. Apart from that, I once heard an interview with Lamine Yamal who said that he would be very happy if he could play with Nico Williams at Barcelona.

On the other hand, the president of Athletic Bilbao responded to the rumors in a relaxed manner and he added that there was no need to worry about these rumors and he also said that Nico Wlliams was very happy at Athletic Bilbao. But I think everything could change if a club dares to redeem this clause and it is not impossible that management will release it.

Nonetheless, it is entirely up to the player; William may still leave Bilbao due to a personal request. Nico Williams' contract is about to expire, but there is no word on whether he and Bilbao are in talks to extend it. As far as I know, Bilbao has offered him a three-year contract extension, but Williams has not responded.

Barcelona could still sign him during the next summer transfer season. Nico Williams has very good relationships with some of Barcelona's players on the Spanish national team, so he still has a chance to join Barcelona.

Nico Williams has been through an fantastic season with Bilbao because he can help Bilbao to gets Copa Del Rey and reach to 5th place in League Table and for next season Bilbao will playing at Europa League and we can see his statistics with bilbao during this season that Nico Williams was playing 37 matches in all competitions and scores 8 goals and created 19 assists so as a player i can says Nico Williams can be considers as one of the best winger in Laliga this season and i am sure if Bilbao is allowed him to moved to other team then most likely Nico Williams will playing with big club for next season

I have been watching his performance when Spain beat Italy yesterday i can says Nico Williams performing well and if he can bringing Spain to go further in the Euro Cup i think he will be the main target of big clubs in Europa even recently he was into Chelsea, Arsenal and Totteham radar and not impossible after Euro Cup tournament ended these clubs will compete to gets him however Nico Williams has release clause 50 million and this price is relatively cheap if we look at his potential especially we all know Nico Williams is still categorized as a young player considering that he is still 21 years old

[Jegileman]

Well, it's no wonder we speculate about Kross's position. It's a real shame that he retired. When I see him playing in Germany in this Euro I say to myself, how is it possible that he retires with so much football under his belt and still able to delight us with his great plays? How is it possible? But anyway, with Ancelotti, Madrid will be able to find a way to put together a suitable formation without him until they find the right one. And with Mbappé, well, they already have someone to put up front. There are many players who can accompany Mbappé, but to be honest, I think that Madrid already needs a very good midfielder, because for me the base of Madrid has always been its midfielders.

Kroos leaving Real Madrid does left a very big void in the midfield for them, but with Modric still in the club, he can be able with other younger players cover up for that position. I have strong hope in Real Madrid and I don’t think they’ll feel much about his exit in the midfield. I am sure Mbaope will miss most of those good passes that Vini Jnr and Rodrigo have been receiving to convert to immediate goals for the team. Kroos is a very talented midfielder and he will be missed in that midfield and that doesn’t mean Real Madrid's performance will reduce or won’t play as before. The existing midfielders can assist Mbappe and it’s just left for him to convert most of them to goals which I believe he can.

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Well, it's no wonder we speculate about Kross's position. It's a real shame that he retired. When I see him playing in Germany in this Euro I say to myself, how is it possible that he retires with so much football under his belt and still able to delight us with his great plays? How is it possible? But anyway, with Ancelotti, Madrid will be able to find a way to put together a suitable formation without him until they find the right one. And with Mbappé, well, they already have someone to put up front. There are many players who can accompany Mbappé, but to be honest, I think that Madrid already needs a very good midfielder, because for me the base of Madrid has always been its midfielders.

Yeah, as we can see he has 95% pass accuracy and even 99% when he met Scotland, it's really disappointing to see a great player that can still able to play choose to retire. It's make sense if he retired because he has a problem with health issues or something like that, but he retired without any reason lol. He might want to start a business and enjoy his life in slow living, however many people still want to watch him!

After he retires will he become a coach following in the footsteps of Xabi Alonso?

Imagine when Real Madrid have Mbappe and the ball will continue to be supplied from Toni Kross who has a high level of accuracy but unfortunately he retired first. I think what he has achieved has been obtained maybe with this decision we see him sad.

Luka Modric has one more season left but he's too old, but for passing the ball I think Modric is still pretty good although not as accurate as Toni Kross.

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Kroos leaving Real Madrid does left a very big void in the midfield for them, but with Modric still in the club, he can be able with other younger players cover up for that position. I have strong hope in Real Madrid and I don’t think they’ll feel much about his exit in the midfield. I am sure Mbaope will miss most of those good passes that Vini Jnr and Rodrigo have been receiving to convert to immediate goals for the team. Kroos is a very talented midfielder and he will be missed in that midfield and that doesn’t mean Real Madrid's performance will reduce or won’t play as before. The existing midfielders can assist Mbappe and it’s just left for him to convert most of them to goals which I believe he can.

Kroos was the most important player in Real Madrid's midfield. Not because he was so strong defensively, but because he controlled the game. It's easy to get a good defensive midfielder, Camavinga can do that too, but apart from Modric, no one can play like Kroos and that position definitely needs to be replaced. Perhaps Arda Güler can take over at some point, but I'm not sure. Real will still remain the strongest team in La Liga but they have to replace Kroos and Modric in order to stay with the best clubs internationally.

[Richbased]

Well, it's no wonder we speculate about Kross's position. It's a real shame that he retired. When I see him playing in Germany in this Euro I say to myself, how is it possible that he retires with so much football under his belt and still able to delight us with his great plays? How is it possible? But anyway, with Ancelotti, Madrid will be able to find a way to put together a suitable formation without him until they find the right one. And with Mbappé, well, they already have someone to put up front. There are many players who can accompany Mbappé, but to be honest, I think that Madrid already needs a very good midfielder, because for me the base of Madrid has always been its midfielders.

He is a player full of talent, every movement has meaning and his presence on the pitch helps the team a lot. He is an important player in the team, his ability to maintain the rhythm of the game is also very beneficial for the team, but he has chosen his own path even though there are many fans who still want to enjoy his beautiful game. Real Madrid has lost one of its best midfielders, I believe he has done his best and Real Madrid can accept his decision which seems surprising to football fans.

After Toni Kroos decided to retire from Real Madrid, it won't be long before Modric will also leave Real Madrid due to his getting older. Now that Real Madrid is starting to find a replacement for Toni Kroos in Jude Bellingham, Ancelotti also has several other midfielders who can defend the midfield well.

Real Madrid is a team that is full of great players and Toni Kroos have been a good midfielder since he joined the team and he will surely be missed by the team but there are so many other midfielders that have not had the opportunity to feature much in a game due to some of the well known players in players in the team made others become invincible and I believe the team have a replacement for Toni Kroos.

 Modric will also be leaving the team soon but they just have to learn to manage without this great players that they gonna miss so from next season Carlo Ancelotti should start testing other players in replacement of Toni Kroos and Modric then he will surely identify the players that can fit in well in those positions. Even though Bellingham may fit in well in replacement of Toni Kroos but he may not be as experienced as Kroos in that position.

[GiftedMAN]

Well, it's no wonder we speculate about Kross's position. It's a real shame that he retired. When I see him playing in Germany in this Euro I say to myself, how is it possible that he retires with so much football under his belt and still able to delight us with his great plays? How is it possible? But anyway, with Ancelotti, Madrid will be able to find a way to put together a suitable formation without him until they find the right one. And with Mbappé, well, they already have someone to put up front. There are many players who can accompany Mbappé, but to be honest, I think that Madrid already needs a very good midfielder, because for me the base of Madrid has always been its midfielders.

Kroos leaving Real Madrid does left a very big void in the midfield for them, but with Modric still in the club, he can be able with other younger players cover up for that position. I have strong hope in Real Madrid and I don’t think they’ll feel much about his exit in the midfield. I am sure Mbaope will miss most of those good passes that Vini Jnr and Rodrigo have been receiving to convert to immediate goals for the team. Kroos is a very talented midfielder and he will be missed in that midfield and that doesn’t mean Real Madrid's performance will reduce or won’t play as before. The existing midfielders can assist Mbappe and it’s just left for him to convert most of them to goals which I believe he can.

Toni Kroos performance can not be compared to the performance of any other midfielder in the Real Madrid team, Luka Modric is another wonderful midfielder but looking at the performance of both players you will agree with me that Toni Kroos is very special and he's passes is always accurate that's why the Real Madrid coach Carlo Ancelotti always choose him as a regular starter when it comes to big games. His absence will be felt in the Real Madrid squad but the coach of Real Madrid has assured him that he's welcome to the team any time he changes his mind or reconsiders his retirement plans.

Mbappe will get all the passes that the other players enjoyed while playing alongside Kross I believe the team has already one some underground work before the news of Kross retirement broke out so hopefully Luka Modric will assist with the great passes as well as the other younger starts in the team, Toni Kross impact in the team will not be forgotten in a hurry.

[dezoel]

Didn’t Mason Greenwood have a lot of problems with Erik ten Hag? He also expressed his feelings about leaving Old Trafford if I recall correctly. So I think it is going to be good for Manchester United because they will be able to sell him.

On the other hand, Lazio will also get a good player. But I have doubt about money,  the money they are offering is not going to be enough. The Red Devils might actually ask for more. But they should also think about whether the player is satisfied or not. so maybe they should not ask too much which Lazio is not going to be able to pay. Red Devils should also not ask such an amount if the other team is actually able to reach, they might have other options as well.

I would say Greenwood having problems with the law was the main reason why he wasn't kept, but the fact that he could be bought for 30 million is a great deal if you ask me. He is a great player and showed how great he could be at La Liga this season as well, proof that he is still a good player.

I think it should be remembered that we are going to see him do quite well for a long time, I do not think that it would be all that complicated to get it, we should assume that it would be possible. Of course that is not going to be simple for Greenwood to adjust right away, but Lazio is a great place for him, he could just take that team to UCL, if he can do that then he would be considered a star again and may even go for a bigger club later on.