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September 18, 2023, 03:22:12 PM
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Manchester City didn’t do so much in this summer’s transfer window, they focused mainly on strengthening crucial positions in the team. IMO I think Jack Grealish has been an important player in the team since joining from Aston Villa. The good thing is that Manchester City are getting the results for their investments so no need reminiscing on the amount spent on acquiring Grealish or any other player who has been part of the transformation process for City.
It seems like we all have almost the same thoughts when Manchester City is more focused on its current players who are already strong and perfect without having to change any formations in each line because changing players will only change the performance of this club and of course Pep Guardiola will have to reorganize.
So there is no other reason except that Guardiola's goal is not to change anything that already exists to get good results like last season and maybe if Manchester City wanted to maybe be active in the transfer market to get more players but Pep Guardiola doesn't have many choices because of the squad. which is already strong enough no longer needs new players.

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September 18, 2023, 03:51:00 PM
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Manchester City's not being too active is totally normal. Because they don't need it. They already have a wonderful squad. They are just focusing on increasing the number of alternative players for some specific positions that's all. Gvardiol transfer was for adding him to the starting eleven though but generally their transfer policy is like this these days.

Guardiola has just the kind of a squad he would like in his hands. They won the Champions League title with this squad recently. I think they can even win this title two times in a row with the same squad.

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September 18, 2023, 04:06:38 PM
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The current problems Chelsea are suffering from are too difficult to solve. Blaming Pochettino for his decision to reshuffle earlier will also not have any impact because his performance has not changed. Poche did what he thought was good and I think he also tried to do something for Chelsea to improve but in the end his decision was still wrong.
The change from Potter to Lampard some time ago I actually said that Lampard would only be a sacrifice for Chelsea and now for Poche is also the same in the end he will be a sacrifice for Chelsea's poor performance.
The uncertainty of who is to blame will make the coach affected in any case so that what Poche did before will still be considered a mistake.
Responding to Chelsea situation, I think the same as Man United, it is true that the steps taken by Pochettino are the best for him. However, the fans' orientation remains on winning, as does the club owner. The absence of several key players cannot be an absolute reason to scapegoat a decline in performance. What happened was a form of club policy that did not take into account the players they recruited, who were young, had little experience and were expensive.

When adding players cannot be done, changing coaches may not necessarily improve performance. Automatically, The Blues have to survive and find the best way out for now, by not competing in the UCL, Pochettino should be able to do it more quickly.

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September 18, 2023, 04:17:34 PM
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During the last month in the transfer window, many players in Europe left to teams and they joined the Saudi League to earn more money.
Some players took this decision and joined the Saudi Leageu because of the other players who joined this league.
Aleksandar Mitrović is a player who left his team and currently playing for Al Hilal in the Saudi League, he said Dušan Vlahović, another Serbian player to joined the Saudi teams, and Vlahović asked him about his situation in Al Hilal.


https://football-italia.net/mitrovic-recommended-saudi-arabia-move-to-vlahovic/


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September 18, 2023, 04:39:42 PM
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I thought Pochettino was too confident after overhauling Chelsea by selling players and keeping bad players. Now, whether Pochettino likes it or not, he has to realize that his hopes of achieving an ideal position in the Premier League are not as easy as when he led PSG which was full of star players. The bitter reality experienced by Chelsea is not over yet, Tod Boehly seems to be increasingly closing his ears and eyes to the reality of the club he manages. If Chelsea wants to return to its best form, the main thing that must be done is to remove Tod Boehly from ownership of the club.
At this point i don't know who's to be blamed for Chelsea's misfortune, if it's either the club owner, manager or players but I can say that they didn't really spend on the right players cause not everyone they brought in suit the style of play of the club however i won't hesitate to say that what chelsea really needs is time they need to give the manager and their players more time to blend, instead of sacking him so early and making it the 3rd since their owner arrived, for instance when Pep came in to Manchester City and overhauled the team, if you notice they didn't really perform very well that season we began to see very good performance from them the next season and think same situation could work at Chelsea currently and with time well see chelsea winning matches they're supposed to win with ease, also removing Todd Boehly is currently is not gong to come easily or very fast cause i think there are certain rules that comes with changing full ownership of a club with a very short period of his arrival.

I do not understand what is the problem with Chelsea authority. They can spend hundreds and thousands of millions for players, but they cannot spend enough money for a good coach! ! How does that make sense? And how are the players going to perform well if they do not have a good coach? We have already seen what PSG did without having a good coach, but a very good squad. They were not able to perform as expected even though they had great players in the team.

I thought Chelsea would take a lesson from that and will be able to bring a good coach that will have experience in managing big clubs for a long period of time. But they did not change the coach that they had. Why they do not change the current coach? They are not getting the results anyway.

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September 18, 2023, 07:53:23 PM
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During the last month in the transfer window, many players in Europe left to teams and they joined the Saudi League to earn more money.
Some players took this decision and joined the Saudi Leageu because of the other players who joined this league.
Aleksandar Mitrović is a player who left his team and currently playing for Al Hilal in the Saudi League, he said Dušan Vlahović, another Serbian player to joined the Saudi teams, and Vlahović asked him about his situation in Al Hilal.


https://football-italia.net/mitrovic-recommended-saudi-arabia-move-to-vlahovic/



Vahovic is 23 years old. Everyone should do with their lives whatever pleases them the most, but if a little boy grows up with the goal to become a football superstar and then really gets the opportunity to live that superstar life, what a shame would it be if he ends up in some semi-amateurish club because it pays him the most money? I think that there is a financial threshold for everyone. I can't say I would say no to any offer because I want to play in Europe. If suddenly there is a billion as an offer, I would get my stuff together and move to Saudi Arabia for a few years. Cheesy But to be serious if a guy at 23 years old gives up the dream to win titles and play in the Champions League, it seems wrong to me.

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September 18, 2023, 08:20:25 PM
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Source: https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1703312833629311140

We haven't heard from him for a long time, now Julian Draxler is confirmed to be joining Al-Ahli SC. It seems that at PSG he was isolated and was never included in the coach's list, even last season he was loaned to Benfica. He actually still has one season left on his contract with PSG, but considering there is an offer from Al-Ahli, it seems like there is an opportunity for PSG to sell him immediately. I think it is a shame that talents like Julain Draxler are not utilized properly in Europe. However, this is also the right decision for Julian Draxler to leave PSG and continue his career in the Qatar League. Julian Draxler signed a contract lasting until 2025 with Al-Ahli SC.

I don't know whether Draxer was overrated or whether he hasn't gotten the right chance at the right club, but in terms of achievements his career is a failure. He has made tons of money so no reason to complain for him, but he never really made it to the top players in any team and has never really been first choice. Now he is doing the same as everybody else, says goodbye to professional soccer and hello to oil money. Cheesy i wonder what his salary is, if anyone has some information I would appreciate if you share it. I wonder if they also pay salaries as high as the Saudi clubs.

Well, PSG is going to receive €20 million for a player who definitely should not cost that much. I believe his market value is somewhere around 6-7 million euros. So of course, this makes sense for them to sell him right now. This is definitely going to be a huge benefit for them if they sell him. And at the same time, I think they are ready to spend so much money for him because he is still not 30. I can see he is 29 years old. So he will still have a good performance going into the new club. But I wonder if that much money is actually going to be worth it. Of course, they have money to spend. Probably this is not that much for them.

Oh that deal was amazing for PSG for sure. No other club in Europe would have ever paid 20 million for him given his performances for PSG. I guess that this deal was amazing for everyone involved Cheesy The Qatar club doesn't care about money but they have an average player from Europe, the player will make a ton of money and PSG received a transfer fee that they didn't ever dream of. I think they have more or less written him of and accepted the loss.

Draxler was actually a football player that I found successful, but he could not hold on to PSG. He looked like an average player with average stats. I'm sure he will be much more successful in Qatar. However, as a result of this offer from Qatar, PSG's Qatari owner is under suspicion. If there is an illegal transfer as a result of the investigation, it will be a big risk for PSG.

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September 18, 2023, 08:54:50 PM
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Quite curious what made negotiations fail for him to become a player at Manchester City? because it is the biggest opportunity for him to make his career shine even more if he can develop well at that club, but if he is at City he will not get the bigger playing portion that he got at West Ham or if he later goes to Newcastle.
Of course, he will be able to play in the Champions League with Newcastle if Newcastle can get through the group stage, isn't that right? because the transfer market has closed, his chances of going to Newcastle are in the middle of the season when the transfer market opens again, while Newcastle's chances of getting to the knockout phase are still quite doubtful.
Overvalued player, that's the main reason. He doesn't even worth the 45 million that transfermarkt says that he does, let alone 60 million that Newcastle apparently fine with paying, City probably wasn't willing to overpay a player that much. They do not need Paqueta enough to just overpay him no matter what, it just didn't made sense.

Bayern got Kane and overpaid for him, but at least they really needed him and that made sense, I understand why they would do something like that, but City wasn't in the same boat so they didn't accept the offer. Negotations fall for one reason, one of the sides do not agree the price, either one side pays too little or the other side asks for too much and that's why the deal gets broken off.

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September 18, 2023, 09:30:49 PM
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During the last month in the transfer window, many players in Europe left to teams and they joined the Saudi League to earn more money.
Some players took this decision and joined the Saudi Leageu because of the other players who joined this league.
Aleksandar Mitrović is a player who left his team and currently playing for Al Hilal in the Saudi League, he said Dušan Vlahović, another Serbian player to joined the Saudi teams, and Vlahović asked him about his situation in Al Hilal.
https://football-italia.net/mitrovic-recommended-saudi-arabia-move-to-vlahovic/
Indeed. There are many players from European top leagues who moved to Saudi league in the last transfer window. It clearly show us that the money has a big role in football, top players can move to a lower competition because of money. However, one of the factors that many top players want to join Saudi league because of Ronaldo's factor. I'm not sure Neymar, Benzema, or Sadio Mane will move to Saudi league if there is no Ronaldo there.

Anyway, I'm not sure if Dušan Vlahović has the intention to join Saudi league. There are still many top teams in Europe that are interested to sign him. Dušan Vlahović also still plays with his best form. So, there is no reason for him to leave Europe in the near future. Aleksandar Mitrović only expects something that seems impossible to happen in the near future.


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September 18, 2023, 09:49:33 PM
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Real Madrid might extend Modric's contract according to some rumours. However I don't think this will happen. Maybe Kroos would stay for one more season at least. But Modric is way older than him now. I think it is time for Real Madrid to part ways with Modric and give more chances to younger midfielders.

But I must really admit that Modric is still doing really good. It has been a great joy to watch him at Croatia recently. He can still have even more than a full match on the pitch as we have seen him play for 120 minutes for Croatia recently.

They are Legends of Real Madrid for they can stay a year further together in with Real Madrid. Real Madrid can now let go of these players who have made history together with the club.

Modric is a smart midfielder for Real Madrid. Leading the Croatian side and to be runner up during the Last two world cup games. Modric cam still.do same but not to the Croatia way no more.

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Real Madrid might extend Modric's contract according to some rumours. However I don't think this will happen. Maybe Kroos would stay for one more season at least. But Modric is way older than him now. I think it is time for Real Madrid to part ways with Modric and give more chances to younger midfielders.

But I must really admit that Modric is still doing really good. It has been a great joy to watch him at Croatia recently. He can still have even more than a full match on the pitch as we have seen him play for 120 minutes for Croatia recently.
It's going to be fifty-fifty in my opinion.
Modric might get his contract extended but he might not. He is one of Madrid's greatest midfielders and deserves to be aligned with other legends especially with his loyalty to Madrid which has been more than a decade I think he deserves the status of a Madrid legend but in this case the age aspect must also be considered because Modric is no longer young. Not that Madrid is selfish not to extend the contract of Modric but of course in this case we must realize that competition is very important. In the end it will be the same as when Marcelo was let go or Sergio and maybe looking further is Raul who was let go.
They will still be legends but that doesn't mean they have to stay at Madrid forever because performance must also be seen even though Modric is still useful but next season Modric will be much older.

 
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I thought Pochettino was too confident after overhauling Chelsea by selling players and keeping bad players. Now, whether Pochettino likes it or not, he has to realize that his hopes of achieving an ideal position in the Premier League are not as easy as when he led PSG which was full of star players. The bitter reality experienced by Chelsea is not over yet, Tod Boehly seems to be increasingly closing his ears and eyes to the reality of the club he manages. If Chelsea wants to return to its best form, the main thing that must be done is to remove Tod Boehly from ownership of the club.
At this point i don't know who's to be blamed for Chelsea's misfortune, if it's either the club owner, manager or players but I can say that they didn't really spend on the right players cause not everyone they brought in suit the style of play of the club however i won't hesitate to say that what chelsea really needs is time they need to give the manager and their players more time to blend, instead of sacking him so early and making it the 3rd since their owner arrived, for instance when Pep came in to Manchester City and overhauled the team, if you notice they didn't really perform very well that season we began to see very good performance from them the next season and think same situation could work at Chelsea currently and with time well see chelsea winning matches they're supposed to win with ease, also removing Todd Boehly is currently is not gong to come easily or very fast cause i think there are certain rules that comes with changing full ownership of a club with a very short period of his arrival.

I do not understand what is the problem with Chelsea authority. They can spend hundreds and thousands of millions for players, but they cannot spend enough money for a good coach! ! How does that make sense? And how are the players going to perform well if they do not have a good coach? We have already seen what PSG did without having a good coach, but a very good squad. They were not able to perform as expected even though they had great players in the team.

I thought Chelsea would take a lesson from that and will be able to bring a good coach that will have experience in managing big clubs for a long period of time. But they did not change the coach that they had. Why they do not change the current coach? They are not getting the results anyway.

Pochentino is the coach who was recently hired, he is in charge this season, he would not change the entire team and get good results immediately, that is not possible. and it takes time to build a good team, just look at guardiola and manchester city, guardiola took many years to make manchester city win the champions league and even in his early days he didn't immediately win the premier league and a lot of things. He had patience and time to build a good team. That's why in my opinion you have to leave Pochentino for at least 2 years organizing the team, if after 2 years Chelsea continues to be a team that can't beat big premier league teams and doesn't have the level to win the premier league, So at that point they could fire the coach

a newly formed team with a new coach, they don't get synchronized immediately, they need a lot of training and game time, from what I could see Chelsea have improved significantly compared to where they were last season, but they still have a lot of work, probably in the next window of transfers, Pochentino will correct some mistakes such as hiring good attackers and not spending a lot of money on meaningless signings in attack and sometimes on players that I honestly don't even see a reason for them to have. I wonder if Chelsea can make any profit with all the money they spend on players

Real Madrid might extend Modric's contract according to some rumours. However I don't think this will happen. Maybe Kroos would stay for one more season at least. But Modric is way older than him now. I think it is time for Real Madrid to part ways with Modric and give more chances to younger midfielders.

But I must really admit that Modric is still doing really good. It has been a great joy to watch him at Croatia recently. He can still have even more than a full match on the pitch as we have seen him play for 120 minutes for Croatia recently.

They are Legends of Real Madrid for they can stay a year further together in with Real Madrid. Real Madrid can now let go of these players who have made history together with the club.

Modric is a smart midfielder for Real Madrid. Leading the Croatian side and to be runner up during the Last two world cup games. Modric cam still.do same but not to the Croatia way no more.

It's funny that real madrid has a lot of good players in midfield but in attack it seems like they don't have much interest in improving, we can even talk about very old players having to make room for others because they have a lot of good players who are old and new in the midfield. But I'm wondering why Real Madrid didn't do the same thing in attack? What will happen to Real Madrid if Rodrigo, Vincius and Joselu get injured? who will play in the attack that could produce the same performance as these players who in my opinion do not have a great performance but are helping the team to win, but the question is that with this squad real madrid will hardly win the champions league and will have difficulties in the league

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September 18, 2023, 11:36:59 PM
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Real Madrid might extend Modric's contract according to some rumours. However I don't think this will happen. Maybe Kroos would stay for one more season at least. But Modric is way older than him now. I think it is time for Real Madrid to part ways with Modric and give more chances to younger midfielders.

But I must really admit that Modric is still doing really good. It has been a great joy to watch him at Croatia recently. He can still have even more than a full match on the pitch as we have seen him play for 120 minutes for Croatia recently.
It's going to be fifty-fifty in my opinion.
Modric might get his contract extended but he might not. He is one of Madrid's greatest midfielders and deserves to be aligned with other legends especially with his loyalty to Madrid which has been more than a decade I think he deserves the status of a Madrid legend but in this case the age aspect must also be considered because Modric is no longer young. Not that Madrid is selfish not to extend the contract of Modric but of course in this case we must realize that competition is very important. In the end it will be the same as when Marcelo was let go or Sergio and maybe looking further is Raul who was let go.
They will still be legends but that doesn't mean they have to stay at Madrid forever because performance must also be seen even though Modric is still useful but next season Modric will be much older.

For me, I hope Real Madrid continues to extend Modric's contract. But even though he is currently not healthy enough to play until the end of the match. Now, he alone can guide young players at Real Madrid. They have excellent rookies but need more bravery to face strong clubs. Real Madrid will have a confused squad when meeting those opponents. Modric will be a source of direction for young rookies to shine freely.
As for Modric, I will ask him to retire from the national team, and I need him to devote all his heart and strength to Real Madrid.

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September 18, 2023, 11:37:29 PM
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Pep Guardiola is always right and doesnt rush when he wants to choose players to buy from other clubs because Guardiola as an experienced coach always prioritizes the quality of talent that can fill empty places at the City club so whatever happens when new players arrive they always make a very good contribution to the team. the club.
Pep Guardiola has been described as always looking for talent, and he has been successful in this regard. He constantly signs young players with high potential, which has allowed him to develop a highly powerful and fearsome team, propelling him to the top of his contemporaries. He always knows when to buy, sell, or reserve players. This approach is one of a kind bestowed upon him. 

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Regarding the current problem that is occurring, Chelsea performance is not getting better, I think I would agree that Todd would be better off retaining Mauricio Pochettino because if he were to replace a new coach again it would take a long time to adapt and I'm sure that even though Pochettino does no have much experience, he has reliability in terms of strategy for Chelsea player and I will see if Chelsea will improve as the end of this season approaches[/left].

Waiting until the end of the season to evaluate Chelsea's league performance under Mauricio Pochettino will be detrimental to the team's progress. As much as we have faith in Pochettino to improve Chelsea together, we should make an exception for what if he can't? As a result, the team's progress should be compared to the league's progress. If changes are required, they should be implemented before time runs out.

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September 18, 2023, 11:57:00 PM
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The current problems Chelsea are suffering from are too difficult to solve. Blaming Pochettino for his decision to reshuffle earlier will also not have any impact because his performance has not changed. Poche did what he thought was good and I think he also tried to do something for Chelsea to improve but in the end his decision was still wrong.
The change from Potter to Lampard some time ago I actually said that Lampard would only be a sacrifice for Chelsea and now for Poche is also the same in the end he will be a sacrifice for Chelsea's poor performance.
The uncertainty of who is to blame will make the coach affected in any case so that what Poche did before will still be considered a mistake.
Responding to Chelsea situation, I think the same as Man United, it is true that the steps taken by Pochettino are the best for him. However, the fans' orientation remains on winning, as does the club owner. The absence of several key players cannot be an absolute reason to scapegoat a decline in performance. What happened was a form of club policy that did not take into account the players they recruited, who were young, had little experience and were expensive.
To be honest, if manchester united performed quite better than chelsea. I meant to look at the overall gameplay from both of clubs. Manchester united can very least scored a few goals during the match but what about chelsea? The club was rarely scoring the goals even though it was facing non strong club like nottingham forest or bournemouth. Chelsea has lost ability in scoring against its opponent. It keeps doing shitty back pass that makes the game become very boring. The same question that never be answered for chelsea is what was going on behind the scenes of club?
It seems like chelsea is always missing opportunity in scoring against any clubs. The players be little bit scared to shoot the ball. Does pochettino tell em not to shoot or what?
I aint't able to bet or even watch chelsea if the club keeps showing comedy in any of its matches.

When adding players cannot be done, changing coaches may not necessarily improve performance. Automatically, The Blues have to survive and find the best way out for now, by not competing in the UCL, Pochettino should be able to do it more quickly.
The club may necessarily chance the coach if there was no improvement happened to the club. Sanchez has done amazingly against bournemouth with some of his great saves. 

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September 19, 2023, 12:46:41 AM
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Pep Guardiola is always right and doesnt rush when he wants to choose players to buy from other clubs because Guardiola as an experienced coach always prioritizes the quality of talent that can fill empty places at the City club so whatever happens when new players arrive they always make a very good contribution to the team. the club.
Pep Guardiola have been able to level up the performance of Manchester City since his arrival as headcoach for City, a great deal of things have changed. Signing potential players that are capable of contributing to the team and not some random average hyped players like other EPL clubs do. I liked the pattern Pep employs in signing from the transfer market, making his scouts go deep in searching for players, those ones that are consistent in league performance, making his previous signings, Erling Haaland, Julián Álvarez, Manuel Obafemi Akanji and Jérémy Doku, all contributes to the club, despite their new presence to Etihad Stadium, but they played as if they've been in the team for years.

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September 19, 2023, 01:43:23 AM
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Manchester City's not being too active is totally normal. Because they don't need it. They already have a wonderful squad. They are just focusing on increasing the number of alternative players for some specific positions that's all. Gvardiol transfer was for adding him to the starting eleven though but generally their transfer policy is like this these days.
Manchester city has everything needed for back to back champion of english premier league. It has a good starting line up, It has good secondary squads as well, It has chemistry, it has attractive and creative game play. There's no need to buy someone else who would disrupt the situation in the dressing room. Manchester city must also try to avoid sanction from violating the FFP regulation in EPL. The club doesn't need to make a lot of movement.
That's why manchester city was only focusing to fill the vacant spots by buying some great players like dokie which is undervaled and underrated. Manchester city has the best gameplay in EPL.


Guardiola has just the kind of a squad he would like in his hands. They won the Champions League title with this squad recently. I think they can even win this title two times in a row with the same squad.
Guardiola will try to repeat the same thing again. Manchester city's prime reminds me with real madrid's prime when ronaldo was winning UCL three times in a row. It's pretty similar to the manchester city.
I hope that guardiola will put three times treble winners as its target for manchester city. It will be so crazy to see that happens on manchester city.


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September 19, 2023, 04:31:07 AM
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Guardiola will try to repeat the same thing again. Manchester city's prime reminds me with real madrid's prime when ronaldo was winning UCL three times in a row. It's pretty similar to the manchester city.
I hope that guardiola will put three times treble winners as its target for manchester city. It will be so crazy to see that happens on manchester city.
It's not possible because Pep will manage England national team if he successfully brought Manchester City win Premier League and Champions League. There have been a lot rumor Pep will join England because until now England always sign poor coach when they have many star players.

He already successful in managing club, now it's the turn for him to proof if he's able to manage national team.

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It's not possible because Pep will manage England national team if he successfully brought Manchester City win Premier League and Champions League. There have been a lot rumor Pep will join England because until now England always sign poor coach when they have many star players.

He already successful in managing club, now it's the turn for him to proof if he's able to manage national team.
I think Southgates time is coming to an end gradually and wth the wrong choices of some players he picks to represent England international duty, I think with time alot of fans would start to drag him out and call for his sacking , however i don't know how possible it would be, if Pep would even be interested in coaching a country side, maybe that would after he's done breaking all the records and setting new tougher ones in the EPL lol.
 
 However i regard him as the best coach because he's proved himself in several leagues,  even won the treble twice in two top leagues therefore I don't think managing a country side would be difficult for him, also the England squad is filled with multiple talented players which makes it easy for Pep cause he's known for bringing out the very best of talented players, anyways if yhe rumors are true then it's a good news for England if Pep agrees to coach a country side team.
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September 19, 2023, 05:03:58 AM
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Oh that deal was amazing for PSG for sure. No other club in Europe would have ever paid 20 million for him given his performances for PSG. I guess that this deal was amazing for everyone involved Cheesy The Qatar club doesn't care about money but they have an average player from Europe, the player will make a ton of money and PSG received a transfer fee that they didn't ever dream of. I think they have more or less written him of and accepted the loss.
That is true what you write. But with him, they have someone who become world champion in 2014, 4x champion in france, 1x champion in portugal and 1x cup winner in germany. At Al-Ahli SC he is the most valuable player, no one of the players in the team has so many successes as he does. So he will not only play good football, but also high motivation - "play together with a world champion". At the age of 29, mybe he will play another 3-4 years.

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