⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions

[Fiatless]

Yep, I also don't think Osimhen is interested to join Chelsea

Which top player will be interested in joining Chelsea right now, they have started the season terribly and it is almost certain that they are not going to win any trophies, they are also not playing UCL football this season, and there's no guarantee that they are going to qualify for the tournament next season. Chelsea are somewhat of an unattractive project for any world class player right now. Despite the fact that Osimhen has some issues with the club, i think he is still happy playing there and he doesn't have any intentions of leaving, thus maybe we should stop discussing his future.

You don't need to write off Chelsea suddenly, the league is still young and they can qualify for any tournament if they continue with the impressive performance against Fulham. Nobody is sure if even Manchester City and the current top four clubs will qualify for any European competition. Chelsea needs a player like Victor Osimhen because he has the quality to maximize most of the goal-scoring chances the club creates. Don't also forget that the pay and his love for the club will also affect his decision. The Napoli teams look united at the surface but the harm has been done. Victor will not be comfortable in Naples and I think he will be more satisfied moving to another club. He has stopped taking penalties and there is still some communication gap between him and the coach and some players.

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Despite the fact that's he's been very prolific for his club Napoli, there's no way Victor Osimhen's market value will reach €500 million. The truth is that during the summer transfer window, Napoli president Aurelio De Laurentiis was trying to scare other European big clubs away with very high price for any club that comes for the services of the Nigeria international and that's because if the fact that he didn't want to let him leave the club in the summer.
That being said, it's understood that Osimhen had a little misunderstanding with the club recently and reports has it that he wants leave in the club in the winter transfer window. So if the reports are true, Osimhen might leave Napoli in January but in anything about £250 million

Osimhen chances of leaving Napoli are still the same as last summer, I agree with you, it looks like Osimhen price will not reach that high. If Napoli insist on continuing to charge high prices and with the aim of making it difficult for their players to move, then Napoli will also have to bear a much bigger risk, namely Osimhen leaving on a free transfer when his contract expires.

The news of the misunderstanding that occurred was clarified directly by Osimhen on his social media account, that the accusation was not true, and Osimhen called for mutual respect and support for unity. I think the response is quite wise, but that doesn't mean ruling out the possibility of leaving in January.

Especially with Osimhen's condition some time ago, which is actually quite vulnerable in terms of trust in the club, he could indeed leave next season even though the problem has been resolved but it does not rule out the possibility of something like this happening again.

But in this case I still feel that this will be the domino effect of Mbappe because the one eyeing Osimhen at a high price at the moment is PSG but with a note that Mbappe goes to another club even last season there were also rumors that Osimhen was ready to be offered at a price of 150 million if at that time Mbappe left only because Mbappe did not leave then the offer and rumors subsided again.

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well, it sounds very interesting when PSG loses Mbappe and is replaced by Osimhen and looking at Osimhen style of playing quality is on par with Mbappe and is suitable to join PSG. even if there will be many offers in the winter like osimhen and Mbappe, it seems that from now on we can predict a big chance of a move for these two talented players and I also hope that Mbappe will soon come to Real madrid and Osimhen to PSG.

Many rumors at this time Mbappe will stay because of the club owner's statement Mbappe is now happy to be at PSG after the anxiety of last transfer season.

Another one Osimhen will extend the contract with Napoli because the owner of Napoli was equally able to convince Osimhen, this has nothing to do with the chaos on social media about tiktok even though Osimhen's agent has reported the Napoli club.

The concern is that there are so many offers to Osimhen, English clubs have started to show a lot of interest, if Osimhen's offer wants to go there then it is very likely to happen, but we never know in the future.

[Ryu_Ar1]

well, it sounds very interesting when PSG loses Mbappe and is replaced by Osimhen and looking at Osimhen style of playing quality is on par with Mbappe and is suitable to join PSG. even if there will be many offers in the winter like osimhen and Mbappe, it seems that from now on we can predict a big chance of a move for these two talented players and I also hope that Mbappe will soon come to Real madrid and Osimhen to PSG.

Many rumors at this time Mbappe will stay because of the club owner's statement Mbappe is now happy to be at PSG after the anxiety of last transfer season.

Another one Osimhen will extend the contract with Napoli because the owner of Napoli was equally able to convince Osimhen, this has nothing to do with the chaos on social media about tiktok even though Osimhen's agent has reported the Napoli club.

The concern is that there are so many offers to Osimhen, English clubs have started to show a lot of interest, if Osimhen's offer wants to go there then it is very likely to happen, but we never know in the future.

I think Mbappe's contract at PSG is just a formality to get money because in some other rumours it is said that the contract extension is 1 year in the season but in some other rumours it is said that there is a note in the contract where Mbappe must be sold at the end of the summer although this cannot be confirmed whether this is true or not like Osimhen, Aurelio De Laurentiis seems pretty confident that he can extend Osimhen's contract despite the controversy that occurred earlier even though that's the case, I guess it's just a matter of seeing how it goes once the transfer window reopens because sometimes there are things that clubs don't mention directly just to save themselves the hassle of a lot of speculation.

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Osimhen chances of leaving Napoli are still the same as last summer, I agree with you, it looks like Osimhen price will not reach that high. If Napoli insist on continuing to charge high prices and with the aim of making it difficult for their players to move, then Napoli will also have to bear a much bigger risk, namely Osimhen leaving on a free transfer when his contract expires.

The news of the misunderstanding that occurred was clarified directly by Osimhen on his social media account, that the accusation was not true, and Osimhen called for mutual respect and support for unity. I think the response is quite wise, but that doesn't mean ruling out the possibility of leaving in January.

When a player insists on going to another club, the club only has two choices, sell him to get some money or the player will leave for free when his contract expires because he is not willing to extend a new contract. Keeping players from going to other clubs will be very detrimental to the club, players will not play at their best and are often undisciplined, as a result of their actions the club will indirectly suffer losses.

As a talented young player, of course Osimhen wants to play for a bigger club, he also wants to win prestigious titles and several individual awards. His good appearance makes it easy to find a new club, only time will tell which club Osimhen will land at after moving from Napoli.

[dezoel]

Osimhen's future will actually be shaped according to the situation. We were saying Hojlund was bad, but today he scored 2 goals in the UCL. Kane is gone in Tottenham, but Son continues to score goals. Chelsea and Real Madrid need a striker right now. Since Chelsea has Nkunku, that deficiency can be filled, but Real Madrid also has the idea of ​​buying Mbappe. Therefore, it is very difficult to predict which team Osimhe will go to.

Yes but Osimhen's advantage is that he is a real center-forward striker and that is what many teams are missing. Son is scoring goals yes, but he is not a center-forward like Harry Kane is. That means there is still a potential gap to be filled for Tottenham some time in the future. Real Madrid is after Mbappe who can play the center-forward position and Chelsea is so loaded with players that I have truly lost overview. I am sure there will be clubs desperately looking for the type of player that Osimhen is and when the time comes next summer there will also be plenty rumors again about him. For as long as he stays in Europe and doesn't go to a different continent, it's all good.

After winning title there were few good offers waiting for him, but he refuse to accept anyone and Napoli President was also not agreed to allow this transfer which is now going to be big lost for them because now with this performance things can go on low level for his price in last few matches we have no good things for him even few teams are still looking for him like PSG, Chelsea and Arsenal but who could be succeeded in this transfer nothing is clear, but one thing is clear Chelsea is favorite because this club is where he wants to play from his childhood.

Mbappé saga is still on even we all know Real Madrid is favorite club for his next destination, but they want him as free agent which is also twisted but surely going to be solved in coming days.

[Avirunes]

The news of the misunderstanding that occurred was clarified directly by Osimhen on his social media account, that the accusation was not true, and Osimhen called for mutual respect and support for unity. I think the response is quite wise, but that doesn't mean ruling out the possibility of leaving in January.

I also feel that it was a bit misunderstanding but I think it just caught up at a wrong time souring the relationship between him and the team. It's something that will still stay despite how much you try to come up with solution or how quickly you solve it. I think January is a bit too early but I think there is a possibility of Osmihen leaving Napoli in future and that could be anytime around in next summer transfer window or near the contract end.

[wiss19]

On paper Osimhen ticks all places as a center forward for Chelsea he scores goals from every Cylinders and also poses the physicality that a striker needs to succeed in the English premier league. There is no doubt that him joining Chelsea would be a very big addition to them even though he will cost so much, Chelsea aren’t new to spend big. The only problem in this deal will be Osihmen himself wanting to come to Chelsea, because if we look at the history of the past center forwards that the club has had then it will be scary for Osihmen to come here. Aside the days of Crespo and Drogba, the only striker that has had a decent few seasons at Chelsea was Diego Costa and also him didn’t have much of an impact for a long time. People will say this are just fallacies but if you take it into account you see that the club structure this past few years hasn’t favoured center forwards.

With Madrid lurking around seeking for a back plan should Mbappe deal falls off then I will say Osihmen will be on there radar, should they come knocking too then it will be reasonable to expect Osihmen to consider this opportunity more than the Chealsea offer

Osimhen is currently not happy in Napoli, he extended his contract with this team but still, Osimhen can leave Napoli to another team. This can be a cheap transfer for Chelsea or any other team but it seems there are some possible destinations for Osimhen in next summer like Real Madrid to have an alternative option for Mbappe and Chslea to improve the team.

Recently we have few off the field issues which create serious mess-up even right now we have silent from the both parties but as things are going most chances we will have something in winter transfer window because few teams are looking for the improvement of their quality and Victor Osimhen can play important role in this all with PSG and few English clubs are serious about this transfer, but his dream club is surely in not good position to talk about any transfer.

In coming days we will have few big things like Mbappé and Victor Osimhen with mostly are feeling Real Madrid are the strong candidate for the Mbappé but nothing is clear because few reports are saying he can extend his contract at PSG but still for the official statement we have to wait for the right time.

[shinratensei_]

Bellingham's arrival at Real Madrid this summer was very surprising, especially for a team that had been targeting him for a long time, such as Liverpool. However, Real Madrid does have great strength to be able to bring him from Dortmund for a fantastic price of 120 million euros and we can see that his contribution in all competitions with Real Madrid is truly amazing. Who would have thought that this young man, who is only 20 years old, has had such big duties and responsibilities so far, plus his maturity on the field has made his teammates put a lot of trust in him. There are new facts after last night's Champions League match between Napoli vs Real Madrid and during the interview Vini Jr revealed a message he had sent over the past year to Bellingham via Instagram with the message "Come to Madrid". It is no doubt that Vini's role is very important for the continuation of Bellingham's transfer to Real Madrid and they can now play together starting in this season's competition.

Vini was trying to convince him to join in the real madrid and it's worked. Glad to see that if bellingham was also seeing real madrid as the most suitable club for him at this moment. Bellingham will be able to win a lot of trophies with real madrid.
Ancellotti was doing right by buying him from dortmund and it's really paid off. Bellingham is still young and he has a very big potential to grow even bigger than before. I must say that if he was of most successful transfer by real madrid in this decade.
Waiting for another great player to come in. I have heard that if real madrid was always putting its attention to the mbappe. The club has been rumored always monitoring him at this moment.
It will be sog ood to have mbappe in the club too. Let's wait till the winter transfer season to come.

[doomloop]

This season is going to be one of the worst for Chelsea. This season Chelsea failed to qualify for the Champions League and they also failed to qualify for the Europa League. The way they are performing in the Premier League, they can't even be in the top ten in the Premier League points table, and in that case, they have less chance to participate in any good tournament in the next season, so a good quality striker at the moment will definitely not want to come to this club in exchange for money.

Victor Osimhen is a talented player and currently plays for Italian club Napoli, played in the quarter finals of the Champions League last season and has the potential to do well this season so the star is unlikely to leave his current club and join Chelsea at the moment.

No doubt Chelsea was having the worst time in 2022/23, and now they are doing their best for having improved performance in this season even their start is not ideal because they are having just eight points from the seven games and two win which are below then average but now win against Fulham on road can bring changes into their performance and fortune this is surely important now they are going to visit Burnley which also having first win against Luton and now having good confidence for facing Chelsea but if they are able to win here then surely we can expect good changes in coming days and this could be good for the Victor Osimhen as well which is looking for play here in this team with Champions League or UEFA Europa Cup is also important for him.

[shogun47]

There are a couple of more teams in my opinion that could be interested in him and that could be of interest to him. It is not only PSG and Real Madrid. If Mbappe goes to Real Madrid I think Osimhen won't be interesting to Real Madrid, but could in turn be interesting to PSG.

Though there are a few other clubs without a strong striker, but I think the condition is that the club is in the top 6 or top 7 in Europe I think.

This will be a domino effect where when we know that last season there was drama between PSG and Mbappe actually if at that time Mbappe decided to leave then the target of PSG was Osimhen and they even in some rumors were ready to offer 150 million for Osimhen if Mbappe left with a dowry of 200-250 million according to the clause that PSG wanted.
But it's like a benchmark where high-priced players are definitely linked to Madrid and PSG right now and obviously the key is Mbappe.

I think next year's summer transfer will be even more interesting because I still think that by then Mbappe will have been let go by PSG.

That is what I would say, too. But I partially disagree with your last sentence in so far that it feels like this topic might once again not come to an end. I tend to believe the transfer to Real Madrid will become reality, but there is a good bit of doubt left because Al Khelaifi might again approach him and put a bag of cash on the table that Mbappe feels once again he can't refuse.

Or I could be completely wrong and the contracts are more or less written by now. But given how all the drama enfolded around Mbappe in the past, I would rather wait and see

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No doubt Chelsea was having the worst time in 2022/23, and now they are doing their best for having improved performance in this season even their start is not ideal because they are having just eight points from the seven games and two win which are below then average but now win against Fulham on road can bring changes into their performance and fortune this is surely important now they are going to visit Burnley which also having first win against Luton and now having good confidence for facing Chelsea but if they are able to win here then surely we can expect good changes in coming days and this could be good for the Victor Osimhen as well which is looking for play here in this team with Champions League or UEFA Europa Cup is also important for him.

Maybe you mean the 2023/2024 season, but overall Chelsea performance is as you describe. Pochettino still can't make Chelsea stable enough to consistently get points, in the end sharp criticism cannot be avoided by everyone involved in the team. Ups and downs in performance often occur, especially since Chelsea has experienced significant changes. Starting from the change of club owner, change of coach, and at best the player transfer movement last summer. In the end, Chelsea looks like it has completely evolved and is facing the bleakest transition period, i think the standings proves this.

The victory over Fulham gives some hope of improving their performance, the next match against Burnley will confirm whether they have indeed improved. What is certain is that Pochettino will not be free from heavy pressure if Chelsea has not yet risen to the top five in the standings. It is unlikely that Osimhen will end up at Stamford Bridge, because The Blues do not have the potential to win any trophies in the near future.

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Yep, I also don't think Osimhen is interested to join Chelsea

Which top player will be interested in joining Chelsea right now, they have started the season terribly and it is almost certain that they are not going to win any trophies, they are also not playing UCL football this season, and there's no guarantee that they are going to qualify for the tournament next season. Chelsea are somewhat of an unattractive project for any world class player right now. Despite the fact that Osimhen has some issues with the club, i think he is still happy playing there and he doesn't have any intentions of leaving, thus maybe we should stop discussing about his future.

This season is going to be one of the worst for Chelsea. This season Chelsea failed to qualify for the Champions League and they also failed to qualify for the Europa League. The way they are performing in the Premier League, they can't even be in the top ten in the Premier League points table, and in that case, they have less chance to participate in any good tournament in the next season, so a good quality striker at the moment will definitely not want to come to this club in exchange for money.

Victor Osimhen is a talented player and currently plays for Italian club Napoli, played in the quarter finals of the Champions League last season and has the potential to do well this season so the star is unlikely to leave his current club and join Chelsea at the moment.

I will discuss more regarding Victor Osimhen who is linked with Chelsea, which is actually very difficult for Chelsea to bring in this player, whereas talented players who have very good performance qualities usually don't just think about money but will also think about a career at the right club even though Chelsea is able to make an offer which is big but I doubt that Osimhen will accept the offer because it seems like there are other bigger clubs that are more worthy and might secretly make a deal with Osimhen and it's definitely not Chelsea.

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That is what I would say, too. But I partially disagree with your last sentence in so far that it feels like this topic might once again not come to an end. I tend to believe the transfer to Real Madrid will become reality, but there is a good bit of doubt left because Al Khelaifi might again approach him and put a bag of cash on the table that Mbappe feels once again he can't refuse.

Or I could be completely wrong and the contracts are more or less written by now. But given how all the drama enfolded around Mbappe in the past, I would rather wait and see

A very right choice, I think speculation about Mbappe future is the most difficult to predict compared to the others. PSG is financially very stable, so it is able to offer a large salary and bonuses to Mbappe. Real Madrid also has the same thing as PSG, but is more promising when it comes to the Champions League trophy. After seeing various rumors about Mbappe move last summer, it is better to wait and see how the Mbappe transfer saga ends.

For now, PSG through the cool hands of Luis Enrique, must maximize Mbappe in every competition they participate in. It must be admitted, without Mbappe PSG cannot talk much, either in Ligue 1 or the European Champions League.

[QueenVera]

A very right choice, I think speculation about Mbappe future is the most difficult to predict compared to the others. PSG is financially very stable, so it is able to offer a large salary and bonuses to Mbappe. Real Madrid also has the same thing as PSG, but is more promising when it comes to the Champions League trophy. After seeing various rumors about Mbappe move last summer, it is better to wait and see how the Mbappe transfer saga ends.

For now, PSG through the cool hands of Luis Enrique, must maximize Mbappe in every competition they participate in. It must be admitted, without Mbappe PSG cannot talk much, either in Ligue 1 or the European Champions League.

If you ask anyone the club Mbappé would like move to by summer alot of people are going to say Realmadrid, cause that's Mbappe's dream team and he tried to move their this summer, but I doubt if Mbappé would switch over to Realmadrid based on the drams that happened last summer and Realmadrid would seek for other Alternatives that would suit that position well,  however it think Paris Saint-Germain might try to keep Mbappé for another season based on his recent performance for the club so far, but i doubt if he'll accept a  deal to move to any Saudi side cause I pretty sure they'll come in demand of him again.

 Mbappé is a star player for PSG and would be much needed for them to be successful this season in both their domestic league and Champions league his performance is good currently and he's scored a good number of goals for them, and Luis Enrique try to make sure his star player remains fit for the rest of the season.

[Smack That Ace]

This season is going to be one of the worst for Chelsea. This season Chelsea failed to qualify for the Champions League and they also failed to qualify for the Europa League. The way they are performing in the Premier League, they can't even be in the top ten in the Premier League points table, and in that case, they have less chance to participate in any good tournament in the next season, so a good quality striker at the moment will definitely not want to come to this club in exchange for money.

Victor Osimhen is a talented player and currently plays for Italian club Napoli, played in the quarter finals of the Champions League last season and has the potential to do well this season so the star is unlikely to leave his current club and join Chelsea at the moment.

No doubt Chelsea was having the worst time in 2022/23, and now they are doing their best for having improved performance in this season even their start is not ideal because they are having just eight points from the seven games and two win which are below then average but now win against Fulham on road can bring changes into their performance and fortune this is surely important now they are going to visit Burnley which also having first win against Luton and now having good confidence for facing Chelsea but if they are able to win here then surely we can expect good changes in coming days and this could be good for the Victor Osimhen as well which is looking for play here in this team with Champions League or UEFA Europa Cup is also important for him.

Chelsea was able to win in their last match against Fulham. And by doing so, they were able to get the second win of the season. Now they have to win in the seven matches that they have played so far. And just because they were able to get a win against an average team, I don't believe that is going to bring them back in form.

But to be honest, the next opponent that Chelsea is going to play against is also not very good. If anything they are far worse compared to Chelsea. They are even worse compared to the opponent that Chelsea was facing in the last match. So probably Chelsea will be able to win the next match. But I am not giving any certainty about that as well.

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[rendravolt]

Bellingham's arrival at Real Madrid this summer was very surprising, especially for a team that had been targeting him for a long time, such as Liverpool. However, Real Madrid does have great strength to be able to bring him from Dortmund for a fantastic price of 120 million euros and we can see that his contribution in all competitions with Real Madrid is truly amazing. Who would have thought that this young man, who is only 20 years old, has had such big duties and responsibilities so far, plus his maturity on the field has made his teammates put a lot of trust in him. There are new facts after last night's Champions League match between Napoli vs Real Madrid and during the interview Vini Jr revealed a message he had sent over the past year to Bellingham via Instagram with the message "Come to Madrid". It is no doubt that Vini's role is very important for the continuation of Bellingham's transfer to Real Madrid and they can now play together starting in this season's competition.

Vini was trying to convince him to join in the real madrid and it's worked. Glad to see that if bellingham was also seeing real madrid as the most suitable club for him at this moment. Bellingham will be able to win a lot of trophies with real madrid.
Ancellotti was doing right by buying him from dortmund and it's really paid off. Bellingham is still young and he has a very big potential to grow even bigger than before. I must say that if he was of most successful transfer by real madrid in this decade.
Waiting for another great player to come in. I have heard that if real madrid was always putting its attention to the mbappe. The club has been rumored always monitoring him at this moment.
It will be sog ood to have mbappe in the club too. Let's wait till the winter transfer season to come.

Bellingham once said that as a child he often watched Real Madrid matches and he always told Real Madrid it was impossible for them to catch up or make a comeback, but he was repeatedly surprised by the ending that made no sense to him and for that reason Bellingham really wanted to play at Real Madrid.

Offers from other teams had come for him but he just wanted to wait for an offer from Real Madrid and when that day came he still couldn't believe that Real Madrid was offering him a deal, without having to think much he immediately agreed to a contract with Real Madrid this summer. Indeed, Bellingham was the most successful signing for this season and there is no debate about him. Now it's just Mbappe whose development is not very clear and if Mbappe joins Real Madrid next season, of course a new galacticos era will begin soon.

[rahmad2nd]

Many rumors at this time Mbappe will stay because of the club owner's statement Mbappe is now happy to be at PSG after the anxiety of last transfer season.

Another one Osimhen will extend the contract with Napoli because the owner of Napoli was equally able to convince Osimhen, this has nothing to do with the chaos on social media about tiktok even though Osimhen's agent has reported the Napoli club.

The concern is that there are so many offers to Osimhen, English clubs have started to show a lot of interest, if Osimhen's offer wants to go there then it is very likely to happen, but we never know in the future.

If it's just a one-sided claim from Nasser Al Khelaifi's statement, it doesn't determine Mbappe's future with PSG. So far there has been no official statement from Mbappe, nor has there been any news regarding the contract from both parties. Maybe, there is an agreement that has been made and is not exposed by the media. Or maybe, Mbappe remains with his commitment to ending his contract with PSG until the end of this season. We'll see, where it goes regarding Mbappe's future.

To be honest, I rarely look for information about gossip or rumors from top European players. However, I believe that Osimhen will leave next summer. The only question is, which club is truly interested in his services and is willing to dig deep into their pockets to take him. perhaps, Chelsea and Todd Boehly will try to bid for the Napoli star later. Or, it could be Manchester United who will take him to Old Trafford. that is, if United is acquired by Qatar. It could be that Real Madrid will bring him in, if they fail to bring Mbappe back to the Santiago Bernabeu next summer. and yep, there could be a lot of unexpected things coming next summer.

[Distraction]

I believe Chelsea should just stop spending like half a billion dollars in a transfer window from now on. Because this isn't the thing they need right now. They must have spent more than a billion dollars in the last two transfer windows but this hasn't changed anything in the positive direction. They are still in big trouble. 

They should just make the needed kind of transfers and they should focus on improving the teamwork after that. There is still a big hole when it comes to team play right now.

Maybe they won against Fulham but it isn't easy to believe in them to continue like this.

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Chelsea was able to win in their last match against Fulham. And by doing so, they were able to get the second win of the season. Now they have to win in the seven matches that they have played so far. And just because they were able to get a win against an average team, I don't believe that is going to bring them back in form.

But to be honest, the next opponent that Chelsea is going to play against is also not very good. If anything they are far worse compared to Chelsea. They are even worse compared to the opponent that Chelsea was facing in the last match. So probably Chelsea will be able to win the next match. But I am not giving any certainty about that as well.

Derby match never been easy but still Chelsea done good job and able to secure their second win of this season, and now they are going to visit Burnley which is also having first win in last game with this now situation is interesting for the Chelsea because if they are able to secure another win then surely expectations will be high for the coming matches and mostly will feel they are now capable of having better results but if we have no win then surely we have to wait for the improvement of performance.

Even no one is sure about their next match with can they beat Burnley or not but still we are having improvement into this team and body chemistry is also improving which is important for any winning combination Pochettino is capable of having better improvement, but we all know it's never been easy with needs time for this all.