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October 06, 2023, 11:40:31 PM
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Luis Enrique is mute about the performance and poor condition of Les Parisiens, they hoped to bounced back to winning games. Newcastle United was prepared to take on Paris Saint-Germain and thrashed them 4-1. Kylian Mbappe seem frustrated after his team experienced humiliation on English soil in UCL game. PSG have no excused to make other than admitting their defeats and scouting for possible answers to healed the team of these difficulty. It's pointless because there's this word we call adaptation, in just a matter of time, he will fits in so good according to the weather condition of the area.
The outcome of the match was a huge heart breaker. No, I didn't expect this outcome. I want to blame the stadium and match location. It just did help at all. But are there any problems at PSG because watching the boys they didn't give their best and were looking exhausted. The poor weather was bad. If PSG is beaten again in their next match then we would have to look inward with in the team and club management for the problem.

If you were willing to blame and then it must be the players not the stadium or even the match location.  Cheesy

There's nothing wrong about the stadium and match location. It didn't even make sense if you were blaming non life creature due to the loss happened to the PSG. The team and coach were responsible for the lose that had been suffering by PSG.

I was not blaming it coz i like it. The result is quite satisfied for me as newcastle bettor. There's nothing better other than seeing PSG being destroyed by newcastle away.

Newcastle crazily was scoring a lot of goals against PSG even though it was rarely acquiring the ball coz PSG always keeps it during the game. That's enough to see newcastle thrashed PSG with 4 goals.

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October 06, 2023, 11:50:30 PM
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Well said and it is right that Messi and Neymar made Mbappe a much better player in regards to creating space and positioning for him such that he can score easier. The number of assists that Neymar and Messi had combined were impressive and most of those assists landed in the feet of Mbappe who then scored his goal. I don't know I think especially the fans got something wrong there, but I have also wondered why. They have massively disrespected Messi while he was the first or second best total scorer in Ligue 1. What did they expect from him?

Kylian Mbappe also benefited from these players more than they did from him. All of that stopped when Neymar Junior stopped passing the ball to him and cutting Kylian Mbappes inward runs.
Still not happy Paris Saint Germans had these setof players and couldn't win the Champions League. I will place blames on the coach at most Pochetino, he is more conversant with the utilization of young players to big names.
Luis Enrique would have done better with the trio. Mbappe needs to make top choices else, he will have his career in the dust.

I tend to doubt that Luis Enrique would really have done any better although I agree and I am definitely not a fan of Pochettino either. He is doing the same thing with Chelsea now and I wonder what he thought he would be doing there. He most likely thought he would be competing with Manchester City for the Premier League title.

I also think that Neymar and Messi have done a great job in assisting Mbappe. Messi has done that more than he ever used to do it before. But Mbappe feels like the king and while Messi respected that most of the time even though he knew he himself was the GOAT, Neymar can also have an ego, but I think that's quite normal. Mbappe has to work on himself.
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October 07, 2023, 01:55:11 AM
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Well said and it is right that Messi and Neymar made Mbappe a much better player in regards to creating space and positioning for him such that he can score easier. The number of assists that Neymar and Messi had combined were impressive and most of those assists landed in the feet of Mbappe who then scored his goal. I don't know I think especially the fans got something wrong there, but I have also wondered why. They have massively disrespected Messi while he was the first or second best total scorer in Ligue 1. What did they expect from him?

Kylian Mbappe also benefited from these players more than they did from him. All of that stopped when Neymar Junior stopped passing the ball to him and cutting Kylian Mbappes inward runs.
Still not happy Paris Saint Germans had these setof players and couldn't win the Champions League. I will place blames on the coach at most Pochetino, he is more conversant with the utilization of young players to big names.
Luis Enrique would have done better with the trio. Mbappe needs to make top choices else, he will have his career in the dust.

I tend to doubt that Luis Enrique would really have done any better although I agree and I am definitely not a fan of Pochettino either. He is doing the same thing with Chelsea now and I wonder what he thought he would be doing there. He most likely thought he would be competing with Manchester City for the Premier League title.

I also think that Neymar and Messi have done a great job in assisting Mbappe. Messi has done that more than he ever used to do it before. But Mbappe feels like the king and while Messi respected that most of the time even though he knew he himself was the GOAT, Neymar can also have an ego, but I think that's quite normal. Mbappe has to work on himself.

If I'm remembering correctly,  Luis Enrique won his first and only Champions League as a coach whenn he managed Barcelona and these players mentioned where all in the Club.
So give me reasons why Luis Enrique won't make that up once again. PSG do not have a deadly squad no more, they might even be a weaker team to Manchester United, yest Manchester United are complete dicks.

Lionel Messi benefited from french as more of them wanted him to win the Ballon d'or since he moved to PSG that same season. Kylian had his egos and pride up, Lionel Messi achieved lots at his age, I expected him to be humble. When he moves outside of Pari we will know if he can work hard to win the Ballon d'or.

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October 07, 2023, 05:29:09 AM
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Jadon Sancho's fate at Manchester United is still unclear because even though Manchester United seems to need him because the player's attitude has not yet reconciled with the team's coach, he is still not included in United's list of players. https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1710408897167605826
It's quite unfortunate because his bad attitude caused his career to stop temporarily because he didn't get a place in his current club's squad.
I think he has to change his attitude because it's impossible for the club to keep a player whose performance over the last few seasons here hasn't been impressive, the worst thing for him is if in the middle of the season, there is no improvement in his attitude and also no club makes an offer to him, meaning he will not play for longer.

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October 07, 2023, 05:46:56 AM
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Jadon Sancho's fate at Manchester United is still unclear because even though Manchester United seems to need him because the player's attitude has not yet reconciled with the team's coach, he is still not included in United's list of players. https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1710408897167605826
It's quite unfortunate because his bad attitude caused his career to stop temporarily because he didn't get a place in his current club's squad.
I think he has to change his attitude because it's impossible for the club to keep a player whose performance over the last few seasons here hasn't been impressive, the worst thing for him is if in the middle of the season, there is no improvement in his attitude and also no club makes an offer to him, meaning he will not play for longer.
Sancho did? If we look well, it is very very very bad. It's a BAN type of thing.
It’s not all Sancho’s fault by the way. Manchester United had a poorly disciplined camp and environment prior to his arrival and while Ten Hag is trying to create an environment that talent can thrive in.
Not everyone will make it through that process. Some like Wan Bissaka  have chosen to work harder. Doesn’t mean they will be ultimately good enough. But clearly hardwork and improvement is key. With Patience.
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October 07, 2023, 05:47:14 AM
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I just watched a football training highlight now where a 7 year old player scored his teammate by triple nutmeg in an America Youth Soccer Arena and that reminds me of when the likes of Thierry Henry and Nwankwo Kanu were still in Arsenal. They were few of the best football players Arsenal had in this contemporary modern football career.

It reminds me of a goal that Thierry Henry scored former Manchester United goalkeeper Edwin Van Der Sar whilst he was still playing for the Fulham club. It was a 4-1 match and a grave lost to the Fulham at the Highbury. This was the kind of players that were being nurtured by the Gunners at a point in their club career and that's the kind of thing I want Mikel Arteta to do at this time.

Scout for some of the promising players at a very young age and bring them to speed with their professional career. Arteta can as well go for the 7 year old player and nurture him in their feeder team until he becomes a great player like envisaged by many commenters.

An investment made in one single player sometimes could be equivalent to an investment made in another first XI and that was what Barcelona did over Lionel Messi to have brought him to the benefit and advantage of the club. That was spectacular in the history of football.

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October 07, 2023, 06:13:35 AM
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If you were willing to blame and then it must be the players not the stadium or even the match location.  Cheesy

There's nothing wrong about the stadium and match location. It didn't even make sense if you were blaming non life creature due to the loss happened to the PSG. The team and coach were responsible for the lose that had been suffering by PSG.

I was not blaming it coz i like it. The result is quite satisfied for me as newcastle bettor. There's nothing better other than seeing PSG being destroyed by newcastle away.

Newcastle crazily was scoring a lot of goals against PSG even though it was rarely acquiring the ball coz PSG always keeps it during the game. That's enough to see newcastle thrashed PSG with 4 goals.
its better to blame the audience. LOL

an away or home match will certainly slightly affect a team performance but it does not guarantee victory or defeat, its just that the performance will be slightly different due to the pressure of reduced self confidence, as PSG did when they played away against Newcastle, they were beaten by a big score, but that is not a mistake for PSG because I have seen PSG performance is very strong, but mistakes occurred several times in the back line which was a little careless and conceded goals from Newcastle players.

if we talk about mistakes, I think the formation and strategy used Enrique was a little wrong because Mbappe was not in the front row and was replaced with Gancalo Ramos. even though Mbappe would be very good at looking for opportunities when he is in the front row.

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October 07, 2023, 06:29:27 AM
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Jadon Sancho's fate at Manchester United is still unclear because even though Manchester United seems to need him because the player's attitude has not yet reconciled with the team's coach, he is still not included in United's list of players. https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1710408897167605826
It's quite unfortunate because his bad attitude caused his career to stop temporarily because he didn't get a place in his current club's squad.
I think he has to change his attitude because it's impossible for the club to keep a player whose performance over the last few seasons here hasn't been impressive, the worst thing for him is if in the middle of the season, there is no improvement in his attitude and also no club makes an offer to him, meaning he will not play for longer.

Forgot him, sancho is now considering to go back again to the bundesliga. It's caused by his expectation in manchester united didn't meed. I would like to see him to play in the germany league instead of EPL. He will receive less pressures compared when he was staying much longer in united.
Ten hag doesn't even need him as the club is having hojlund right now. He needs also to be involved in a very strict competition against hojlund as a striker.

I'd been participating in a pool by a legit site about which player that had good or bad deal by the readers.



Mount got even a negative rating. He is a complete flop in manchester united. I don't know what was the main motive from ten hag to sign him as a new player while united didn't really need him.
He was not even shining on chelsea. It's quite weird to see ten hag forced the club to buy him.

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October 07, 2023, 06:59:55 AM
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Jadon Sancho's fate at Manchester United is still unclear because even though Manchester United seems to need him because the player's attitude has not yet reconciled with the team's coach, he is still not included in United's list of players. https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1710408897167605826
It's quite unfortunate because his bad attitude caused his career to stop temporarily because he didn't get a place in his current club's squad.
I think he has to change his attitude because it's impossible for the club to keep a player whose performance over the last few seasons here hasn't been impressive, the worst thing for him is if in the middle of the season, there is no improvement in his attitude and also no club makes an offer to him, meaning he will not play for longer.

Here we go again. United continues to be in a situation like this.Too much drama.
Jadon's ego was Bigger than trying to grab a chance to play for the first eleven. He had to be the bigger man and let it go. He needs to work on that. Be humble.
And this gets even more irritating, especially when the team is so awful. The focus must be translated to perform well on the pitch.

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October 07, 2023, 07:37:44 AM
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Jadon Sancho's fate at Manchester United is still unclear because even though Manchester United seems to need him because the player's attitude has not yet reconciled with the team's coach, he is still not included in United's list of players. https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1710408897167605826
It's quite unfortunate because his bad attitude caused his career to stop temporarily because he didn't get a place in his current club's squad.
I think he has to change his attitude because it's impossible for the club to keep a player whose performance over the last few seasons here hasn't been impressive, the worst thing for him is if in the middle of the season, there is no improvement in his attitude and also no club makes an offer to him, meaning he will not play for longer.

Jadon Sancho is a good player, with the arrogance of youth or because the club or ten Hag did something wrong to him. I am seeing Jadon Sancho's determination and desire to leave. Ten Hag seems very strict. Perhaps Sancho's fate will be similar to Cristiano Ronaldo's. MU had to spend a significant amount of 73 million pounds to recruit him from Dortmund in 2021. But now, it is difficult for them to earn that money if they sell him. MU is playing very poorly, and this also affects the value of the players. I have never seen a club that desires MU players so much that they are willing to spend a lot of money to own them. Sancho is also in the same situation.

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 I just hope the embarrassing defeat they had against Newcastle in the UCL match doesn't affect their performance in the league match this weekend,  PSG have been underperforming in their past 2 matches and it’s very suprising considering the fact that they're the title defenders and should be at the top 4 place currently.

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Believe it or not with a draw against Clermont Foot, which is a weak club in Ligue 1, this could indirectly be the impact of their heavy defeat in the Champions League.
This is clearly another doubt for Enrique because their performance is not too erratic and this looks even worse when compared to before in the Galtier era even though they only received 1 defeat but their 3 draws prove like PSG are not really ready for Ligue 1 this season.

There needs to be some real action and not just trying out a few formations for now unless Enrique is prepared for PSG's militant rage which is sometimes too childish like last season.
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October 07, 2023, 09:04:32 AM
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Mount got even a negative rating. He is a complete flop in manchester united. I don't know what was the main motive from ten hag to sign him as a new player while united didn't really need him.
He was not even shining on chelsea. It's quite weird to see ten hag forced the club to buy him.
I don't understand why Mount received so much hate, if they rated Mount for 49.5%, Onana should be 10% because Manhester United had spent a lot money to sign him and he just make Manchester United become worse.

Mount might not contribute many thing and Manchester United also spent a lot for him, but he doesn't affect Manchester United become lose.

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October 07, 2023, 09:12:36 AM
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Jadon Sancho's fate at Manchester United is still unclear because even though Manchester United seems to need him because the player's attitude has not yet reconciled with the team's coach, he is still not included in United's list of players. https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1710408897167605826
It's quite unfortunate because his bad attitude caused his career to stop temporarily because he didn't get a place in his current club's squad.
I think he has to change his attitude because it's impossible for the club to keep a player whose performance over the last few seasons here hasn't been impressive, the worst thing for him is if in the middle of the season, there is no improvement in his attitude and also no club makes an offer to him, meaning he will not play for longer.

There are more than two sides of a story, do not judge a player because a news dropped saying negative about him. If Ronaldo had not come out to speak  concerning Manchester United and the manager, nobody would have heard his own side of the story.
The club Manchester United has released what they want us to hear, but Jadon Sancho can not do so because he is still under contract with Manchester United. If he does anything stupid, his contract will be terminated.
I think he is ready to leave Manchester United, but that would be during the next transfer window.

There's so many issues revolving around Manchester United. Erik Ten Hag should look for the safest way to handle all these matters.

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October 07, 2023, 09:35:05 AM
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Why would the owner of Chelsea be supposed to share the club philosophy that Sir Alex Ferguson deemed right for Manchester United?

Pochettino is not the captain who understands how to maneuver a sinking ship fully occupied with star players into calm waters. Graham Potter was the first to spend over half a billion pounds on new players and then break negative records with Chelsea. Pochettino thought if he can spend money again, it can only get better from where Chelsea is coming from. I thought so too. I think nobody thought that Chelsea would again do as miserably as they have been doing before the summer break.

The first game had quite some positives and I thought if they can tie a game against a restrengthened Liverpool, it is also likely that they are strong enough to not drop to the bottom of the table again after a few weeks. But Chelsea is like a puzzle that must be solved and nobody can't.
Chelsea finished 12th in the standings last season, Pochettino came to Stamford Bridge and took over leadership by inheriting various problems within the club. Club officials have adopted a policy of major overhaul of Chelsea body, prioritizing the recruitment of young players who apparently lack experience, completing the complexity of the Blues current decline in performance. I think everyone in the Chelsea squad is under a lot of pressure, especially Pochettino.

The worst consequence now is that Pochettino could be fired, if he is not able to improve Chelsea performance. Player adaptation seems to be in place, Pochettino must immediately look for other formulas and tactics to make the Blues improve. With the absence of European competition and the lack of matches played, Pochettino should be able to do it quickly and focus completely on the EPL.

I really disagree here. Pochettino has the best job available in football right now. He took over a club called Chelsea that ranked 12th last season! 12th! He can sell any performance as a win if he makes it into the top 8. He can call it progress. When has the last time been that a manager can take on a position at a club like Chelsea and not be forced to at least qualify for the Champions League?

Additionally, he has signed a beautiful contract, I am sure he did. If he gets fired, he goes home with probably 20-25 million in his pockets as a lump sum. If things go wrong, he can again sell it as a project that was doomed to fail because of the mistakes made in the past. I don't t hink this is a terrible job at all. I only think that Pochettino is no world class manager. He is really average in my opinion, but different people have different opinions.

Pochettino has access to almost infinite transfer money as well. What else could you be looking for as a manager in football?

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Jadon Sancho is a good player, with the arrogance of youth or because the club or ten Hag did something wrong to him. I am seeing Jadon Sancho's determination and desire to leave. Ten Hag seems very strict. Perhaps Sancho's fate will be similar to Cristiano Ronaldo's. MU had to spend a significant amount of 73 million pounds to recruit him from Dortmund in 2021. But now, it is difficult for them to earn that money if they sell him. MU is playing very poorly, and this also affects the value of the players. I have never seen a club that desires MU players so much that they are willing to spend a lot of money to own them. Sancho is also in the same situation.
Pride they say comes before a downfall, i expected Sancho to apologise to the coach and team by now so as to be installed into the team again and try to prove the coach wrong, but Sancho's allowed his pride get over him, and his refusal to apologise up till now shows that he's not ready to get back into the team or play for the club anymore, and i think he might seize to be a Manchester United by January.

 There are several clubs that coming demanding for Sancho and one of the is his former club Dortmund but they're demanding a loan bid for, him but i doubt if United would want him to move on a loan deal, they'll probably want him to move on a full transfer and use the money they recovered from the deal to get another player, however Sancho is a good player but has not really proven himself at Manchester united.
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October 07, 2023, 10:52:33 AM
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Jadon Sancho's fate at Manchester United is still unclear because even though Manchester United seems to need him because the player's attitude has not yet reconciled with the team's coach, he is still not included in United's list of players. https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1710408897167605826
It's quite unfortunate because his bad attitude caused his career to stop temporarily because he didn't get a place in his current club's squad.
I think he has to change his attitude because it's impossible for the club to keep a player whose performance over the last few seasons here hasn't been impressive, the worst thing for him is if in the middle of the season, there is no improvement in his attitude and also no club makes an offer to him, meaning he will not play for longer.

Jadon Sancho is a good player, with the arrogance of youth or because the club or ten Hag did something wrong to him. I am seeing Jadon Sancho's determination and desire to leave. Ten Hag seems very strict. Perhaps Sancho's fate will be similar to Cristiano Ronaldo's. MU had to spend a significant amount of 73 million pounds to recruit him from Dortmund in 2021. But now, it is difficult for them to earn that money if they sell him. MU is playing very poorly, and this also affects the value of the players. I have never seen a club that desires MU players so much that they are willing to spend a lot of money to own them. Sancho is also in the same situation.
Manchester united can only sell him below his buying price. Jadon's quality has been decreasing so hard. I read some news were saying that if jadon was interesting to go back again to his old club. It seems like that he can't even survive from the pressures that he received in the premier league.
It's very bad to see him lost his hope in the EPL. His performance is not as good as we have expected but he will able to join in another EPL club to regain his best performance.

Im feeling so disappointed to see how he has been involving in the problem with ten hag. Jadon can also cold his head and apologize for his mistake. His chance to shine in EPL has not yet gone, but he shall also try to decrease his ego.
Jadon needs to find the right solution for the future of his career. United may sell him but the club will be also suffering a huge loss from selling him far from the bought price. It's not an excellent decision for the club.

I hope he will understand it.

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October 07, 2023, 11:47:52 AM
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Agree. Even the combination of Mbappe + Kolo Muani looks like potentially the best in Europe (and therefore in the world) and I don’t even know what other pair of strikers this duo can be compared with. Dembele has always been inconsistent, but the way he left Barcelona shows that he still has big ambitions and maybe they will help him overcome this and perform well more consistently. So far, PSG is having temporary difficulties, but I continue to believe that the team has greater potential than last year.

And do you guys suggest, Mbappe leaves PSG to another club. If yes, to what club will Mbappe move to. I personally feel Mbappe should exit the PSG by now and move to maybe one of the EP league where he will be faced with more formidable teams like that of Arsenal or Man city. I feel like his being in the PSG is dominating and not necessarily challenging to him. Every player needs that challenge to be able to perform better. And I think that's the same perception that Zlatan Ibrahimovic has over the star players that are migrating the Europe down to the Saudi Pro Leagues and Chinese leagues. In Ibrahimovic's opinion, while talking against the decisions of Ronaldo, Neymar and Karim Benzema having migrated to SPL, saying that Money is not everything. However, that didn't stop them from performing as they are doing well. Although, the reason why they're still maintaining the tempo is because they need to prove even more efforts because of the the amount spent on them and not to lose relevance.

Of the real options, there is only one and it is known to everyone - Real. This transfer could have taken place last summer and the previous summer, but PSG poured money into everything (as it turned out in vain) and Mbappe lost another two years in the Parisian swamp. Exotic options may include City. Since City still cannot persuade Haaland to extend his contract, there is a theoretical possibility that Real will lure him instead of Mbappe, but then it will be the most profitable and logical for Mbappe to move to City.

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October 07, 2023, 11:56:47 AM
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Barcelona may face difficulty in signing the new player in winter transfer window. I see the latest article posted by goal said that if barcelona cannot signing the new player due to the FFP. You guys can read more here.

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Mundo Deportivo claim that FFP rules will halt Barcelona's plans to sign a new midfielder in the winter window, despite Xavi's intense desire to do so. The club is still looking for a long-term replacement for Sergio Busquets, who left the Nou Camp in the summer, joining former Barca team-mates Lionel Messi and Jordi Alba at Inter Miami.
https://www.goal.com/en/news/financial-trouble-barcelona-new-midfielder/blt16c5ca9a4265f7a3

I remember barcelona had been linked to the oriol but this guy is not a long term solution for the problem faced by barcelona. barcelona will be also stopping to use financial lever as it's not possible anymore to sell more stakes.
Barcelona must have sold a lot of players to get the funds in dealing with FFP. This club is not always in good financial condition. I rarely saw barcelona got profit from the football business.

This club is always facing more and more losses. Im waiting for the name who will be targeted by barcelona but barcelona needs to sell some players first.

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October 07, 2023, 12:36:16 PM
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Of the real options, there is only one and it is known to everyone - Real. This transfer could have taken place last summer and the previous summer, but PSG poured money into everything (as it turned out in vain) and Mbappe lost another two years in the Parisian swamp. Exotic options may include City. Since City still cannot persuade Haaland to extend his contract, there is a theoretical possibility that Real will lure him instead of Mbappe, but then it will be the most profitable and logical for Mbappe to move to City.
I don't know whether Mbappe's decision to extend his contract with PSG was a wise decision or whether he was punishing himself to continue being with a club that has difficulty winning prestigious trophies (aside from local competition trophies). Whether this is a form of loyalty or purely because of money, everything is still gray. Real Madrid's interest in Mbappe has been around for the last few years. Mbappe could have moved there straight away, but in reality he has always extended his contract with PSG.

Regarding Haaland, I think he will stay at Manchester City. He has been at the peak of his performance since starting his career in the EPL, at the peak of which he managed to achieve his first treble winner in his career. With Manchester City he could become the best player in the world by winning the Ballon D'or. Currently he is at the right club and is being looked after by a genius coach, there is no reason for him to move to another club.
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October 07, 2023, 12:41:48 PM
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Jadon Sancho is a good player, with the arrogance of youth or because the club or ten Hag did something wrong to him. I am seeing Jadon Sancho's determination and desire to leave. Ten Hag seems very strict. Perhaps Sancho's fate will be similar to Cristiano Ronaldo's. MU had to spend a significant amount of 73 million pounds to recruit him from Dortmund in 2021. But now, it is difficult for them to earn that money if they sell him. MU is playing very poorly, and this also affects the value of the players. I have never seen a club that desires MU players so much that they are willing to spend a lot of money to own them. Sancho is also in the same situation.
Manchester United owner, the Glazers should triggered the sell option, because that's the only option that would developed the club into standard form. Manchester United having difficulty in games this season, due to injuries, inconsistent performance and absent of important players. Jadon Sancho have refused to tender apology to his manager, Erik Ten Hag after having issues with him. Erik and Sancho don't possess any connecting bond because the player in question is ignorant and filled with pride, because it will cost him absolutely nothing to just utter the word 'sorry'.

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