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November 02, 2023, 06:38:50 PM
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What happened at Manchester United is actually quite surprising because what they have shown this season is the opposite of last season, even though they have spent quite a lot of money to strengthen their squad, perhaps Manchester United's talent scouts are not as sharp in spotting potential players, with them having been eliminated in The Carabao Cup will increase the pressure that they have to be better in the English Premier League and Champions League, but the Champions League is a difficult competition for them to beat. Buying players in the next transfer window might be a solution, although it is possible that it will be like Chelsea, which did not bring about significant changes to the club, so Manchester United's condition is truly confusing. There may be surprising news that the current coach will be replaced by another if the situation does not improve soon.
Man United so far this season- Strugglingggggggg

Their current win percentage is at 46%, but I have doubts that it will decrease further by the end of this season if no action is taken.

Despite spending a significant amount to money to strengthen their squad, the manager is in dire need of a top-notch goal scorer and an excellent goalkeeper. Oddly, these were available but were benched and not given contract renewals, leaving the manager in a perplexing situation. The team's unity among players is lacking, and I don't see any positive energy among them. It seems like the Glazers purchased everything the coach wanted, but the team is struggling. Now the coach might even face the risk of being fired.
I think what they need to do is keep the team going as long as they can with this system and players. I know that sounds like a terrible idea when the results you are getting looking this bad, but between injuries and chemistry issues, if you keep it going exactly like this, not only the team will get used to how they should be playing, but also injuries will heal too and they are going to get much better in the future.

I am sensing it will be too late but if they keep ETH a bit more, after the winter break we are going to see a great United team. You will see after January this United team (unless there are a lot of injuries) will be an amazing team and they are going to end up with amazing playing and changes for sure.

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November 02, 2023, 06:43:42 PM
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I think Toney deserves this value because he played successful matches in Brentford. His name is mentioned with Chelsea and Arsenal and I think he can easily play in both teams. A quality player always stands out and I think Toney proved that a long time ago. Of course, these teams should make good economic calculations if they are going to pay £ 100 M for him.

Ivan Toney is good but I don't think he's worth £100M.
He hasn't proved himself at the top level to be worth that much. He has not even won the Golden Boot in the EPL to be worth that much, no Champions League experience, and no big club experience. 60 to 70 million should be the maximum price tag.
Then there is the fact that he has not played any competitive football for about 8 months before he will be ready. His football ban will end in January and I don't think any club would want to take that gamble for 100m.

If Chelsea can buy Toney for 100 million then why didn't they just go all out for Kane instead? Chelsea is not a well-run club so I won't be surprised if they sign Toney for 100 million but I doubt any other club would be ready to spend that much on a player just coming back from an 8 months ban.

Brentford are just trying to make most out of Toney's sale. They know the demand of him in the market and with so many clubs going after him someone might really touch that 100m tag. It's not about achievements but it's more about how much value he holds to the current club. Right now if he leaves, Brentford has to go through a long hassle in order to acquire a centre forward and develop him in top player in 2-3 years. I think it is bit fair from Brentford's view as well.
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November 02, 2023, 06:45:32 PM
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I think he will fight back again racism. He is a strong player and he really loves being at Madrid. I don't think just due to mere racism he will leave Madrid. I think he also had fight back in court about some racism issue recently couple of months ago. So I don't think he will leave Madrid just due to racism. He really should focus on his game and let these things not affect his game. I am sure his teammates will also be supporting him in these times which also can make change these decisions if he is thinking so.
The issue of Racism would not be a reason for Vini Jr to leave Realmadrid, he loves the club and knows he's been loved by his teammates who gives him moral support whenever he gets racial attacks, also he's one of Ancelotti's favorites and would definitely be encouraged by his coach to focus on his footballing career and get more improvement on the pitch, he still has alot of future at Realmadrid and is not leaving anytime soon.

 Vinicius Junior knows the benefits of being a Realmadrid player, and therefore won't be moved by Racial attacks to leave a club where he gets achievement that would offer him lots of recognition in years to come, and I believe he'll extend his contract for a long term with Realmadrid where his  heart belongs to.
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November 02, 2023, 07:07:46 PM
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Wasn't it some time ago that there was news that Mbappe extended the contract for one season but with a note that he would still be allowed to leave (not as a free agent but sold).
I don't know the continuation of this and indeed whether this is true or not because I searched for some of the same articles some opinions and some rumors made the difference because some said it was true and some said it was just a rumor.
I think it is a rumor only, dude. If we check the profile of Mbappe, there is no change in his contact. His contract is still to expire in 2024. I'm sure if he extends his contact again, it will hurt Real Madrid although it is for 1 season only. We already know that he is rumored to get a personal agreement with Real Madrid. It means it is the final decision that Mbappe will leave PSG after his current contract expires.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11820/12939282/kylian-mbappe-future-psg-forward-committed-to-club-and-expected-to-extend-contract-to-2025
In fact, the rumors that occur are after the emergence of this news as said from this which says that Mbappe extended his contract for one season until 2026 but there is indeed a special clause that is required that he will be sold (in this news to Madrid) but indeed this is also confusing because however when talking about Mbappe's contract even though it is always busy talking but in the end there is no definite clarity about these rumors because of so much confusing news.

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But looking at the current conditions with Mbappe still there I think the rumors are true because in the end by looking at the ultimatum that PSG gave earlier and Mbappe still did not accept it then I think Mbappe will not be in the squad now which means that he extended the contract for one season this is true but on the other hand he must also be let go next season.
If he is still in PSG squad now, it is because his contact doesn't expire yet.
Well, the rumors about Mbappe will be always there, we can't stop new rumors. It is because the media wants to get the advantage form Mabppe's rumors.
I know Mbappe's contract is still not up but with the previous ultimatum given by PSG when Mbappe did not want to cooperate well with the party from PSG he would not remain in the squad because in the end the previous ultimatum that he would be transferred to a junior from PSG or fully reserved even though this is a lot of opposition too because it would be very stupid if PSG did something like that but even if it is impossible everything will be possible for Al Khelaifi where he has the power. This means that when Mbappe is now back as a player without any continuation of the ultimatum that PSG has always talked about, there is already an agreement that we do not know.

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November 02, 2023, 07:20:50 PM
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Ivan Toney is a really good and strong striker. Of course he has some issue but it doesn't affects anything on his qualities at all. He is a very good finisher of the ball and really lethal in counter-attacks. He and Mbeumo last season had combined to score lot of goals for Brentford. I am not surprised that he is getting interests from big clubs like Chelsea and Arsenal because in moment of controversies the actual club also might try to sell the player for a low value but it seems Brentford still highly values their main striker Ivan Toney.
He might be good, but what he done wasn't good because he get banned due to breach betting rules. He's not playing since March and the ban will last for 8 months, his current market value is 45 Million Euros, so Brenford is demanding two times higher than his market value.

I doubt a big team will interested to spend such big amount of money, Toney is like Son, if he's really good why there's no big team want to sign him when he was young isn't?

Ivan Toney may not be back yet but he has been playing soccer behind close door games. 45 Million Euros for Ivan Toney is worth it, let me say he will make better impact than most of Manchester United attacking players right now.
Arsenal was amongst clubs chasing Ivan Toney and I've also wanted to see that. With Gabriel Jesus most likely absent, Nketiah not consistent, Ivan Toney will be a perfect backing for Mikel Arteta's squad.

Let go of the past. Now he has all it takes to succeed in the Premier League. Either of Chelsea and Arsenal would be chasing after him.
He has 32 goals in 68 appearances in the Premier League so far and this statistic can be carried even higher with a big team like Arsenal. Tooney is a quality striker. If he can adapt fully, he can serve Arsenal for many years as he is 27 years old. I think it would be a good transfer if it happens.

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November 02, 2023, 07:52:32 PM
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Warren Zaïre-Emery is the top candidate for a new midfielder on Manchester City's radar and it is reported that Pep Guardiola really wants him. He is a talented young midfielder belonging to PSG and since playing for PSG several times he has scored 1 goal and 2 assists. I think if Pep Guardiola really wants it then there are other things that we as ordinary people can't see and certainly his future will be more secure if he is in the hands of the right coach. On the other hand, the costs are quite expensive for young newcomers and perhaps Manchester City will try to take an approach to reach an ideal agreement. Will PSG let him go? considering he is one of the players PSG needs at the moment.
It might be wise to pay 50 Million for a 17 year old player, but it depends on how confident you are in the player. If you are sure that he is a promising player, you have made a great investment with this money, but players like Kevin De Bruyne may not always come along. While we should not have high expectations from a 17-year-old player, paying 50 million will put the player under great psychological pressure. It should not be forgotten that they gave this money to the transfers of the best players in the world in the past.

 
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Before joining Chelsea, the players were performing more or less normally in their teams, so maybe it's the choice of coach? Obviously you can build a good team without big names in the squad, and when you have them, it's even easier, so I think Chelsea made a mistake with the choice of coach and maybe they will change him soon
Actually in this case all factors can be at fault in my opinion because it is not only about the coach, the decisions chosen by the players as well as the very fast turnover of the club owner's policy makes the condition even worse.
Mudryk, Enzo and even Caicedo are young players with potential but the EPL for Enzo and Mudryk was too fast and they didn't adjust well and for Caicedo he ended up like Potter which could have been the wrong decision for him. He is good but Chelsea is too different from Brighton because after his move his performance dropped drastically and that is an undeniable fact. It's not just Chelsea's problem but Caicedo's as well who is having a hard time adapting.

The ability to adapt is also an important factor for a good player, so this point in these players is a disadvantage by this logic. And anyway, how long have they been in the team? I think adaptation takes a month at most, maybe a month and a half. They would be given a normal set-up for the game, try to play differently with them, maybe something would work out, but no, nothing of this is used

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November 02, 2023, 08:40:32 PM
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Actually in this case all factors can be at fault in my opinion because it is not only about the coach, the decisions chosen by the players as well as the very fast turnover of the club owner's policy makes the condition even worse.
Mudryk, Enzo and even Caicedo are young players with potential but the EPL for Enzo and Mudryk was too fast and they didn't adjust well and for Caicedo he ended up like Potter which could have been the wrong decision for him. He is good but Chelsea is too different from Brighton because after his move his performance dropped drastically and that is an undeniable fact. It's not just Chelsea's problem but Caicedo's as well who is having a hard time adapting.
Chelsea performance is quite improving, I'm conversant with the Chelsea squad; they're inconsistent due to the integration of new players who are attempting to amalgamate together. These new players have faced challenges and are currently doing everything they can to showcase an amazing performance this season. I'm pleased that to see Myhailo Mudryk, Enzo Fernandez, and Moises Caicedo getting back on track, they're the future players of the Blues; they're truly working together to achieve tremendous achievements this season.

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I'm pleased that to see Myhailo Mudryk, Enzo Fernandez, and Moises Caicedo getting back on track, they're the future players of the Blues; they're truly working together to achieve tremendous achievements this season.
The biggest title that Chelsea can win this season is the carabao cup, they do not stand a chance of finishing in top four this season and making champions league qualification. There is a bright future in the club considering the young players that they have been able to bring to the club, we thought that it will be this season that Chelsea fix up their mess from last season and return to the standard of the club we used to know, but it does not look like this season, maybe the next one after this.

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Chelsea performance is quite improving, I'm conversant with the Chelsea squad; they're inconsistent due to the integration of new players who are attempting to amalgamate together. These new players have faced challenges and are currently doing everything they can to showcase an amazing performance this season. I'm pleased that to see Myhailo Mudryk, Enzo Fernandez, and Moises Caicedo getting back on track, they're the future players of the Blues; they're truly working together to achieve tremendous achievements this season.
Currently they've improved and are doing very well when they meet some  mediocre teams but they're not yet very consistent and I think the players have not really bonded well to communicate better on the pitch, and I believe that's one thing Pouchettino is working on currently, Chelsea fans should trust the process and know that sooner or later their team would start getting a better performance.

 However their team is made up of younger players that are very talented and though most of them are inexperienced currently but in the near future when most of them are very matured and full of experience Chelsea would start doing better and would be a very tough club to play against, those three players you mentioned would really create a history with Chelsea in future when  they're very matured and understands eachother better.
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I think Toney deserves this value because he played successful matches in Brentford. His name is mentioned with Chelsea and Arsenal and I think he can easily play in both teams. A quality player always stands out and I think Toney proved that a long time ago. Of course, these teams should make good economic calculations if they are going to pay £ 100 M for him.
So now is every player who is impressive now worth 100m? I think this value (100m) is so underrated nowadays, any player who is hot for just a season suddenly carries the 100m price tag nowadays and i think it’s bad. Ivan Toney is a good striker that can still improve but until then i don’t think he is worth 100m just yet. This is why we see a lot of 100m flops nowadays because they are being overhyped.

If i were Chelsea I would rather go all out to sign Victor Osimehn for 150m than sign Ivan Toney for 100m. Toney still needs to prove himself in a different team or for another more season to prove he is worth 100m. He can end up a flop and also end up being a top signing but since there is no assurance I wouldn’t want them to risk it. Every team wants to sell their best players for the latest selling price tag.

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November 02, 2023, 09:37:15 PM
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So now is every player who is impressive now worth 100m? I think this value (100m) is so underrated nowadays, any player who is hot for just a season suddenly carries the 100m price tag nowadays and i think it’s bad. Ivan Toney is a good striker that can still improve but until then i don’t think he is worth 100m just yet. This is why we see a lot of 100m flops nowadays because they are being overhyped.

If i were Chelsea I would rather go all out to sign Victor Osimehn for 150m than sign Ivan Toney for 100m. Toney still needs to prove himself in a different team or for another more season to prove he is worth 100m. He can end up a flop and also end up being a top signing but since there is no assurance I wouldn’t want them to risk it. Every team wants to sell their best players for the latest selling price tag.

€100million for Ivan Toney, a player that's yet to feature for the UEFA Champions League in his career. Ivan Toney is my favorite Brentford player; I've missed watching the Englishman play for the Bees this season; he made a few indiscretions that resulted up with a FIFA ban for an extended period of time, but he's obviously working and trying to remain in the prerequisite for his comeback next year. Ivan Toney may be overhyped, but he's terrific. I respect the player's confidence in taking penalties, and he has never missed a penalty in a Brentford jersey. We have overhyped guys in the system simply by watching them perform on the field, only to discover they are inconsistent and have minimal to give the club. Ivan Toney is one of Brentford's outstanding frontlines; he's experienced and accessible.

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November 02, 2023, 09:40:15 PM
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I think Toney deserves this value because he played successful matches in Brentford. His name is mentioned with Chelsea and Arsenal and I think he can easily play in both teams. A quality player always stands out and I think Toney proved that a long time ago. Of course, these teams should make good economic calculations if they are going to pay £ 100 M for him.

Ivan Toney is good but I don't think he's worth £100M.
He hasn't proved himself at the top level to be worth that much. He has not even won the Golden Boot in the EPL to be worth that much, no Champions League experience, and no big club experience. 60 to 70 million should be the maximum price tag.
Then there is the fact that he has not played any competitive football for about 8 months before he will be ready. His football ban will end in January and I don't think any club would want to take that gamble for 100m.

If Chelsea can buy Toney for 100 million then why didn't they just go all out for Kane instead? Chelsea is not a well-run club so I won't be surprised if they sign Toney for 100 million but I doubt any other club would be ready to spend that much on a player just coming back from an 8 months ban.

Brentford are just pricing an outrageous valuations for Ivan Toney to move him out to the best bidder. 100M? That can never happen.
Well, he has experience with no small but he has with experience that comes with playing in the Premier League games and Competitions. He can be a good striker for whoever wanst him.

Buy Toney for 100? They should rather add some good money and chase Victor Oshime untill he is a Chelsea player completely.
About Kane, Daniel Levey Chairman of Tottenham Hotspur said he'll never sell to any Premier League club.

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November 02, 2023, 09:56:25 PM
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I'm pleased that to see Myhailo Mudryk, Enzo Fernandez, and Moises Caicedo getting back on track, they're the future players of the Blues; they're truly working together to achieve tremendous achievements this season.
The biggest title that Chelsea can win this season is the carabao cup, they do not stand a chance of finishing in top four this season and making champions league qualification. There is a bright future in the club considering the young players that they have been able to bring to the club, we thought that it will be this season that Chelsea fix up their mess from last season and return to the standard of the club we used to know, but it does not look like this season, maybe the next one after this.
Even the Carabao Cup that you mentioned may still be out of the reach of Chelsea in this season even though the seems to be the strongest club among others but it still doesn't guarantee them of the win since Chelsea has been underperforming for quite a while now and I don't think that will change anytime soon,  and just as you mentioned,  their may not even finish this season among the top 5 clubs in the champions league so how much more becoming first in the league you mentioned.

Chelsea needs a total overhaul of the club arrangement and take away some of the bad eggs they have contributed in bringing the club down to its current level where Chelsea only struggles to not lose their club name in the international football body,  but all this has proven to be ineffective in recovering the lost glory of the casino.

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November 02, 2023, 09:56:44 PM
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So now is every player who is impressive now worth 100m? I think this value (100m) is so underrated nowadays, any player who is hot for just a season suddenly carries the 100m price tag nowadays and i think it’s bad. Ivan Toney is a good striker that can still improve but until then i don’t think he is worth 100m just yet. This is why we see a lot of 100m flops nowadays because they are being overhyped.
100M seems to be the normal price for any team that wants to sell their top player. Ivan Toney may not be worth that price to you, but to Brentford he is worth that price because he is one of their best players. Also if clubs like Brighton could sell Moises Caicedo for that price and West Ham for around that price too, Brentford will try to push their luck. Ivan Toney is a goal scorer for Brentford, so that price reflects their interest that they are not so much in a hurry to sell him off.

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Ivan Toney may not be back yet but he has been playing soccer behind close door games. 45 Million Euros for Ivan Toney is worth it, let me say he will make better impact than most of Manchester United attacking players right now.
Arsenal was amongst clubs chasing Ivan Toney and I've also wanted to see that. With Gabriel Jesus most likely absent, Nketiah not consistent, Ivan Toney will be a perfect backing for Mikel Arteta's squad.

Let go of the past. Now he has all it takes to succeed in the Premier League. Either of Chelsea and Arsenal would be chasing after him.
Well with the current state of the club,  having such an experienced player who have been behind the scene and building up enough skills and energy to deliver for the club at all cost,  this must be one of the most strategic signings for Manchester United in this period since e the club have suffered a lot for to players shortage on the club.

But then fhs player will only go for the club that have the money bag to throw at him and where he will be most active in games,  instead of being in a team that plays you for just a while and keeps you on reserve.

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€100million for Ivan Toney, a player that's yet to feature for the UEFA Champions League in his career. Ivan Toney is my favorite Brentford player; I've missed watching the Englishman play for the Bees this season; he made a few indiscretions that resulted up with a FIFA ban for an extended period of time, but he's obviously working and trying to remain in the prerequisite for his comeback next year. Ivan Toney may be overhyped, but he's terrific. I respect the player's confidence in taking penalties, and he has never missed a penalty in a Brentford jersey. We have overhyped guys in the system simply by watching them perform on the field, only to discover they are inconsistent and have minimal to give the club. Ivan Toney is one of Brentford's outstanding frontlines; he's experienced and accessible.

This valuation of money has actually been one of bad effects of the modern day football. A mid table team attacker had one or two outstanding season then we see a Market price which is ridiculous. Some great talents have been wasted because if the Pressures coming from been signed for huge amount. Almost every $100 million player usually have a rough first season and he sometimes gets the backing of the coach and gets better in the following season but most at times there career takes a huge low.

Concerning Ivan Tooney, if he does comes back in form. Then I think we might be seeing the next 100 million rated player. My major reason is the English media usually hype there players and the fellow English clubs who do not mind spending will definitely get him.

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€100million for Ivan Toney, a player that's yet to feature for the UEFA Champions League in his career. Ivan Toney is my favorite Brentford player; I've missed watching the Englishman play for the Bees this season; he made a few indiscretions that resulted up with a FIFA ban for an extended period of time, but he's obviously working and trying to remain in the prerequisite for his comeback next year. Ivan Toney may be overhyped, but he's terrific. I respect the player's confidence in taking penalties, and he has never missed a penalty in a Brentford jersey. We have overhyped guys in the system simply by watching them perform on the field, only to discover they are inconsistent and have minimal to give the club. Ivan Toney is one of Brentford's outstanding frontlines; he's experienced and accessible.

This valuation of money has actually been one of bad effects of the modern day football. A mid table team attacker had one or two outstanding season then we see a Market price which is ridiculous. Some great talents have been wasted because if the Pressures coming from been signed for huge amount. Almost every $100 million player usually have a rough first season and he sometimes gets the backing of the coach and gets better in the following season but most at times there career takes a huge low.

Concerning Ivan Tooney, if he does comes back in form. Then I think we might be seeing the next 100 million rated player. My major reason is the English media usually hype there players and the fellow English clubs who do not mind spending will definitely get him.
One of the main reasons why we didn't see most of the young and potential English football talents fail to live up to their expectations is the fact that British media excessively hypes them and makes them to think they're already superstar even when they're nothing close to being football stars.
Ivan Toney is a good striker but putting a €100 million price tag on his is just too much for a player of his qualities. He is not worth such amount of money if you ask me.

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Douglas Costa landed today in Italy in Turin.

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Ivan Toney may not be back yet but he has been playing soccer behind close door games. 45 Million Euros for Ivan Toney is worth it, let me say he will make better impact than most of Manchester United attacking players right now.
Arsenal was amongst clubs chasing Ivan Toney and I've also wanted to see that. With Gabriel Jesus most likely absent, Nketiah not consistent, Ivan Toney will be a perfect backing for Mikel Arteta's squad.

Let go of the past. Now he has all it takes to succeed in the Premier League. Either of Chelsea and Arsenal would be chasing after him.

Talking about this striker from Brentford, based on my personal assumptions referring to his statistics, AI fits the criteria for being a pure striker for Arsenal and this striker was able to score 20 goals in the 22/23 season. Well, if he was part of Arsenal maybe he could play better than playing for Brentford. however, if I refer to the Sky Sports report that Brentford will ask for £100 million for Chelsea and Arsenal targets Ivan Toney. Previously, the prolific striker continued to serve an eight-month ban from all football-related activities, but his long-term future was still wide open.

Rumor has it that the Bees have placed a £100m valuation on Toney in a bid to quash interest in their striker, with Spurs also mentioned as a potential destination. Toney will return to action on January 16, and it would take a proposal for Brentford to agree a mid-season transfer for their main man. It seems that Brentford will not remove this sticker. because they have no solution regarding the tough task they will face in January amidst plans to retain the striker's services at least until the end of the season. That's why Brentford priced it at such a fantastic price.

So, it is very likely that the teams that want his services will slowly withdraw. except, if several interested teams have a reliable strategy in negotiating. Moreover, if Toney has a release clause that is not too expensive. meaning, he has the potential to leave in January. if that happens, with a transfer of 45 million euros, it doesn't seem to be a problem for Arsenal. However, I doubt that this player will leave Brentford in January.

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