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Not all players can withstand the pressure of the EPL, several players come in with loads of potential but end up becoming average, Ziyech was a players i really admired but it turned out the other way round when Chelsea bought him. Another example of such kind of player is Antony, at Ajax he was peak in performance but flopped at Manchester United.
If you observe the stats of such players you’ll notice that their worst performance is in the EPL. Look at Antony, a promising player from the Eredevisie, flopped at Manchester United, but doing well currently in the Laliga.
They're some factors that affects new players coming to EPL which made them unable to cope with the league. This includes the team game pattern, the weather condition and the nature of the league. One thing I know is that, EPL is very tough and rugged and if you are not a player that can cope with the ruggedness of the league will definitely decline in performance. Anthony went to Betis and became a superstar.
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September 15, 2026, 06:50:51 PM |
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Brasileirão is highly aggressive compared to other leagues in Europe. I have known Hakim Ziyech to be a mild or gentle player. Just wondering how he could fit into the physical battleground of the Brazilian League. The Moroccan said that playing in the Brazilian League has been his dream.
In sports, we can't predict how a player will fare in a team or competition. In my view, the Saudi Professional League or Major League Soccer would have been perfect for him. Joining a competitive league like the Brasileirão at 33 years old might make him work beyond his capacity.
Lol! He doesn't have to be as aggressive as they are in the Brazilian league. He seems soft, but he has vision, a better football IQ, pace and also high technical capabilities. That is honestly what you need when playing against aggressive players. Also, having good teammates who understands the game and can play very well like you do and you're good to go. Do you remember when Mesut Ozil signed up for Arsenal after leaving Real Madrid? A lot question marks was raised about his fitness but have you ever wondered how he thrived all through he's stay in the Premier League Competition? These core Muslim players are refusing to join Saudi Arabian sides I don't know why. Look at Mo Salah, i thought he'd swing that way but he moved to join a Turkish club. I have also wanted that experience the Brazilian league or maybe a five aside competition in Brazil. It will be fun! Hakim Ziyech already won too much and played at tue highest level, he is simply going to enjoy himself and have a lot of fun in Brazil.
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September 15, 2026, 07:37:09 PM |
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They're some factors that affects new players coming to EPL which made them unable to cope with the league. This includes the team game pattern, the weather condition and the nature of the league. One thing I know is that, EPL is very tough and rugged and if you are not a player that can cope with the ruggedness of the league will definitely decline in performance. Anthony went to Betis and became a superstar.
Epl is the Legaue where they destroy some young players career. In interview Cafo said a why Brazil didn't win any worldcup and have alot of talent and everyone make him the favorite to the worldcup but they didn't win, they answer because of the premier league. In premier league one good performance and all the cameras and media are on you and fan expectations are high from taste players and most of the player didn't handle that's pressure and that's the reason most of the talent didn't succeed in EPL. There are also alot of more reason as well but the main thing is Already Cafu said and it's true that's media pressure and fan expectations make them a averge player.
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September 15, 2026, 07:52:32 PM |
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I agree with you, I have always considered Ziyech as a very average player, I was very surprised when he moved to Chelsea because I didn't think he was good enough to play for the Blues. And even at Ajax, ok, he had some good performances, but he never gave the impression that he could actually be a star despite playing in the Eredivisie.
Ziyech was above average, the fact that his spell at Chelsea was unfortunately but he was still a class and in some good days we saw the magician working and know for a fact he had it on him. There are quite a number of players who had an disappointing or an unfortunate spell at Chelsea but that doesn't define them overall. Ziyech is a pretty decent player, one that enjoys playing football and making impactwhereverhe goes. He reminds me a lot of Neymar during his prime season, though nobody really talks about it enough but Neymar has just as much individual trophy as some average players but he's considered a world class player. That's the beauty of football, it's all about contribution to the team over individual achievements, that's the kind of standard Ziyech brings to his team.
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September 15, 2026, 08:01:12 PM |
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Not all players can withstand the pressure of the EPL, several players come in with loads of potential but end up becoming average, Ziyech was a players i really admired but it turned out the other way round when Chelsea bought him. Another example of such kind of player is Antony, at Ajax he was peak in performance but flopped at Manchester United.
If you observe the stats of such players you’ll notice that their worst performance is in the EPL. Look at Antony, a promising player from the Eredevisie, flopped at Manchester United, but doing well currently in the Laliga.
They're some factors that affects new players coming to EPL which made them unable to cope with the league. This includes the team game pattern, the weather condition and the nature of the league. One thing I know is that, EPL is very tough and rugged and if you are not a player that can cope with the ruggedness of the league will definitely decline in performance. Anthony went to Betis and became a superstar. The system is the problem. Premier League is currently stronger than every other league. Most players that come to the league can't cope with the physicality and the pace, and there are better teams competing in the other league. Only a few come into the league and start doing what they usually do for their previous club. If you think you have pace as an attacker, there is a defender there in the league to match the pace. If it is skill, technicality, and coaching brilliance, you will find it in the Premier League.
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September 15, 2026, 08:58:34 PM |
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Ziyech is a pretty decent player, one that enjoys playing football and making impactwhereverhe goes. He reminds me a lot of Neymar during his prime season, though nobody really talks about it enough but Neymar has just as much individual trophy as some average players but he's considered a world class player. That's the beauty of football, it's all about contribution to the team over individual achievements, that's the kind of standard Ziyech brings to his team.
So you’re calling Ziyech world class? Because anything above average is leaning towards world class and frankly Hakimi Ziyech was not on that level he had talent but that wasn’t even comparable to Neymar because Neymar was a generational talent, he even was on the ballon d’or top 10 while playing at a Brazil league at such a young age so him and Ziyech are miles apart. Yes Ziyech was an average player and to me it’s save to put it that way. Because it’s not bad to be an average player.
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September 15, 2026, 11:07:11 PM |
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Brasileirão is highly aggressive compared to other leagues in Europe. I have known Hakim Ziyech to be a mild or gentle player. Just wondering how he could fit into the physical battleground of the Brazilian League. The Moroccan said that playing in the Brazilian League has been his dream.
In sports, we can't predict how a player will fare in a team or competition. In my view, the Saudi Professional League or Major League Soccer would have been perfect for him. Joining a competitive league like the Brasileirão at 33 years old might make him work beyond his capacity.
Lol! He doesn't have to be as aggressive as they are in the Brazilian league. He seems soft, but he has vision, a better football IQ, pace and also high technical capabilities. That is honestly what you need when playing against aggressive players. Also, having good teammates who understands the game and can play very well like you do and you're good to go. Do you remember when Mesut Ozil signed up for Arsenal after leaving Real Madrid? A lot question marks was raised about his fitness but have you ever wondered how he thrived all through he's stay in the Premier League Competition? These core Muslim players are refusing to join Saudi Arabian sides I don't know why. Look at Mo Salah, i thought he'd swing that way but he moved to join a Turkish club. I have also wanted that experience the Brazilian league or maybe a five aside competition in Brazil. It will be fun! Hakim Ziyech already won too much and played at tue highest level, he is simply going to enjoy himself and have a lot of fun in Brazil. Yeah I remember Ozil. He was however 24 when he joined Arsenal. When he is just kind of setting up plays and opportunities without it costing him anything, right? During those he was 27 years old. Still had everything in the tank physically. Salah was also able to grab me. Actually he did end up at a Turkish club? Trabzonspor, this summer. So the Muslim players refusing Turkish football"... The exact opposite of what happened lol. He had big injury problems at Galatasaray and that was a much calmer environment than this. But games were beyond the rhythm that body was able to keep up. It will be tougher in Brazil, not easier.
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September 15, 2026, 11:13:11 PM |
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Not all players can withstand the pressure of the EPL, several players come in with loads of potential but end up becoming average, Ziyech was a players i really admired but it turned out the other way round when Chelsea bought him. Another example of such kind of player is Antony, at Ajax he was peak in performance but flopped at Manchester United.
If you observe the stats of such players you’ll notice that their worst performance is in the EPL. Look at Antony, a promising player from the Eredevisie, flopped at Manchester United, but doing well currently in the Laliga.
They're some factors that affects new players coming to EPL which made them unable to cope with the league. This includes the team game pattern, the weather condition and the nature of the league. One thing I know is that, EPL is very tough and rugged and if you are not a player that can cope with the ruggedness of the league will definitely decline in performance. Anthony went to Betis and became a superstar. The system is the problem. Premier League is currently stronger than every other league. Most players that come to the league can't cope with the physicality and the pace, and there are better teams competing in the other league. Only a few come into the league and start doing what they usually do for their previous club. If you think you have pace as an attacker, there is a defender there in the league to match the pace. If it is skill, technicality, and coaching brilliance, you will find it in the Premier League. I think there isn't a single footballer in the world who doesn't know that the Premier League is very different and a very strong league. Perhaps that's why many footballers dream of being able to keep up with the pace of the Premier League. Many players can perform brilliantly before transferring to the Premier League, but they can't succeed there. One of the most recent examples that comes to mind is Wirtz. The young player had a fantastic career leap in Germany, but he couldn't achieve what he wanted at Liverpool. Because the Premier League is more challenging and demanding than the Bundesliga. However, I'm sure that same player would be successful if he went to Spain. Because the technical level is very high in Spain.
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Lol, your post still revolve around transfer discussion. It's not really out of discussion in my opinion.
I think Hakim Ziyech peak ended at Ajax. He was on average when he was playing for Chelsea. Not that he was totally bad but at Chelsea, his performance wasn't as impressive as it was when he was at Ajax. It's probably true when people claim that Chelsea is a club that kills players career.
I don't know much about Brazilian league but I hope he can adapt quickly and regain his form. He wasn't part of the world cup squad due to his poor fitness and form. It's heartbreaking to see a legendary player going through things like this.
I agree with you, I have always considered Ziyech as a very average player, I was very surprised when he moved to Chelsea because I didn't think he was good enough to play for the Blues. And even at Ajax, ok, he had some good performances, but he never gave the impression that he could actually be a star despite playing in the Eredivisie. Not all players can withstand the pressure of the EPL, several players come in with loads of potential but end up becoming average, Ziyech was a players i really admired but it turned out the other way round when Chelsea bought him. Another example of such kind of player is Antony, at Ajax he was peak in performance but flopped at Manchester United. If you observe the stats of such players you’ll notice that their worst performance is in the EPL. Look at Antony, a promising player from the Eredevisie, flopped at Manchester United, but doing well currently in the Laliga. It's not even about the pressure in my opinion, it simply was a scouting mistake. Ajax during those years did great things in Europe, especially in the 2019-20 season if I recall correctly, and all the players looked better than they actually were. And Ziyech was simply one of those. I'm a Juventus fan, I can also mention De Ligt, who arrived with huge expectations and then we found out he barely knew how to defend. I'm not sure any of those Ajax players actually kept good performances after they left the team. So it's not only Ziyech, it was the whole team, including the manager.
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September 16, 2026, 02:05:12 AM |
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Not all players can withstand the pressure of the EPL, several players come in with loads of potential but end up becoming average, Ziyech was a players i really admired but it turned out the other way round when Chelsea bought him. Another example of such kind of player is Antony, at Ajax he was peak in performance but flopped at Manchester United.
If you observe the stats of such players you’ll notice that their worst performance is in the EPL. Look at Antony, a promising player from the Eredevisie, flopped at Manchester United, but doing well currently in the Laliga.
Sometimes, when you people talk about the EPL, you talk about it like it's the only league where real football is played. The moment a player struggles in a club in the EPL, you guys conclude it's because the league is too tough for him. Why do you people see other leagues as so inferior? I watch a lot of football. The leagues I watch are Serie A, La Liga, the EPL, Ligue 1, and occasionally the Eredivisie and Süper Lig when ESPN channels show the matches and I don't have any other match to watch. What I can tell you is that these leagues are not easy. There is this general misconception that these leagues are so easy, that's why players struggle in the EPL, but I disagree. I believe a good player will shine in any league as long as his team brings out the best in him. Ziyech was never a superstar. He was a good player, but not the player Chelsea thought he was. Ziyech is not the kind of player to raise the level of a club. He is not a level raiser. Chelsea was expecting him to be what he's not. If he had played in a smaller EPL team, maybe he would have excelled, because that is his level. Some players shine for a mid-table team, and big clubs make the mistake of thinking he will do well in a big club, but they are wrong. That player is only excelling at his level. Players like Manuel Lanzini and Payet only excelled because they played for West Ham. If they went to clubs like Man United and Chelsea, they might have flopped. The same goes for Antony. Man United saw him more than he actually was. If he went to clubs like Newcastle, Aston Villa or Crystal Palace, he would have probably been a star in the league. But he went to Man United with so many expectations that he couldn't live up to. Not to mention that Manchester United were so bad at the time, to an extent that every single player they had regressed. He went to Betis and is doing well in Betis because that is his level, not because the league is inferior. If he had gone to teams like Barcelona or Real Madrid, he would have still been a flop.
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September 16, 2026, 03:13:10 AM |
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Not all players can withstand the pressure of the EPL, several players come in with loads of potential but end up becoming average, Ziyech was a players i really admired but it turned out the other way round when Chelsea bought him. Another example of such kind of player is Antony, at Ajax he was peak in performance but flopped at Manchester United.
If you observe the stats of such players you’ll notice that their worst performance is in the EPL. Look at Antony, a promising player from the Eredevisie, flopped at Manchester United, but doing well currently in the Laliga.
Sometimes, when you people talk about the EPL, you talk about it like it's the only league where real football is played. The moment a player struggles in a club in the EPL, you guys conclude it's because the league is too tough for him. Why do you people see other leagues as so inferior? I watch a lot of football. The leagues I watch are Serie A, La Liga, the EPL, Ligue 1, and occasionally the Eredivisie and Süper Lig when ESPN channels show the matches and I don't have any other match to watch. What I can tell you is that these leagues are not easy. There is this general misconception that these leagues are so easy, that's why players struggle in the EPL, but I disagree. I believe a good player will shine in any league as long as his team brings out the best in him. Ziyech was never a superstar. He was a good player, but not the player Chelsea thought he was. Ziyech is not the kind of player to raise the level of a club. He is not a level raiser. Chelsea was expecting him to be what he's not. If he had played in a smaller EPL team, maybe he would have excelled, because that is his level. Some players shine for a mid-table team, and big clubs make the mistake of thinking he will do well in a big club, but they are wrong. That player is only excelling at his level. Players like Manuel Lanzini and Payet only excelled because they played for West Ham. If they went to clubs like Man United and Chelsea, they might have flopped. The same goes for Antony. Man United saw him more than he actually was. If he went to clubs like Newcastle, Aston Villa or Crystal Palace, he would have probably been a star in the league. But he went to Man United with so many expectations that he couldn't live up to. Not to mention that Manchester United were so bad at the time, to an extent that every single player they had regressed. He went to Betis and is doing well in Betis because that is his level, not because the league is inferior. If he had gone to teams like Barcelona or Real Madrid, he would have still been a flop. Even if you should ask majority of the football players they will tell you is true that the epl is the hardest league to survive in as a footballer. I’m not saying that every player who comes to the premier league must struggle to adapt but majority of them who come from other league where they were actually doing well and regarded as kings when they come to the epl they become average or below average. I think is as a result of the high level of demands by the premier league clubs when compared to other leagues, the high competitiveness in the league has made every club, managers and fans to always want more from their players. Most of them are being brought to the league with a lot of money and as a result there’s too much expectation to start performing immediately. A lot of teams there see themselves as capable to win titles, not like other leagues where one or two clubs are always winning the title, there’s competition for trophies in the epl and due to the high level of investments in that league they always expect more from the players.
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I was just thinking, won't this long-term stride be the next option for Manchester United? Mikel Arteta has finished second and third in many seasons but didn't get sacked but Manchester United sacked a manager that finished second severally and lost a European final.
We don’t know for sure what Man United’s management will decide.. but what’s clear is that last season Man United managed to finish the season well and made it to the Champions League.. with an achievement like that, Carrick should still be considered by the management board.. even though their performance at the start of this season is still lacking, I think it’s just a matter of time until the squad they have really starts performing consistently.. so right now, what we believe is that Carrick is still trying to improve Man United’s performance and Man United’s management should also have high trust in him.
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 It seems Xabi is getting upset with how his defenders are playing, then he tells management to bring him a quality defender. The rumor about his club is targeting Bastoni right now. The source says that his club is preparing 80m for Bastoni, which i think it's good amount of money for Intermilan. The only issue whether Bastoni is interesting enough to play in England. A few years ago, Chelsea did same approach to him, but it's all failed because Bastoni decided to stay in Inter. This time Chelsea is trying to approach him again, which makes me feel a bit doubt he will agree to join Blues. Other than it, there is also another factor like how Chelsea snubbed Palestra from Inter's radar. So do you guys think Bastoni will go to Chelsea? I also wondering who's gonna be kicked out from their squad if Bastoni is going there.
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September 16, 2026, 11:47:43 AM |
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I have to agree with you. I remember a lot of us calling for the sack of Mikel Arteta for not being able to win the league even in the seasons they dominated most of it but the club management stuck with him and believed so much in the project they he was building. Now, Arsenal are the most consistent English Premier League team. I honestly don't think their dominance will be halted anytime soon.
Arsenal are the best team in the entire Premier League and this year too they are proving it on the pitch away from the gossip of journalists who were already asking at the end of last season to repeat themselves, putting unnecessary pressure on the team which instead responded in a very concrete way.
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September 16, 2026, 12:16:55 PM |
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Barcelona 15 years ago had a very good defensive line because they had Abidal, Piqué, Puyol and Dani Alves. The team they currently have is great but the old one was way more complete in every single role. Probably except the goalkeeper, I feel like both teams have/had a decent keeper but nothing crazy. For example Ter Stegen, who arrived later, was way better than Victor Valdes.
having a team and a team like that of Barcelona where so many talents always come out is a huge advantage, this leads to always having a young and tough team, always ready to face important challenges, in any case ter stegen great goalkeeper maybe still have these strong players.
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September 16, 2026, 06:03:54 PM |
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Yeah I remember Ozil. He was however 24 when he joined Arsenal. When he is just kind of setting up plays and opportunities without it costing him anything, right? During those he was 27 years old. Still had everything in the tank physically.
Salah was also able to grab me. Actually he did end up at a Turkish club? Trabzonspor, this summer. So the Muslim players refusing Turkish football"... The exact opposite of what happened lol.
He had big injury problems at Galatasaray and that was a much calmer environment than this. But games were beyond the rhythm that body was able to keep up. It will be tougher in Brazil, not easier.
Physically?! That pal was technically sound with a great vision. Yeah! He ended up with a Turkish club over a Saudi Arabian side. I don't know why though. Speculations said he was offered much more with them. Well, a new environment could mean something different for him eventually. I will monitor his progress with his new Brazilian side. Arthur Melo and Phil Coutinho are also names who made moves to join Brazilian side Santos. They're the new set of players joining Neymar Jr.
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September 16, 2026, 06:20:09 PM |
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It seems Xabi is getting upset with how his defenders are playing, then he tells management to bring him a quality defender. The rumor about his club is targeting Bastoni right now. The source says that his club is preparing 80m for Bastoni, which i think it's good amount of money for Intermilan.
They have very big defensive problems, and Cucurella left a huge void. Bastoni is one of the players I consider very good in defense, and he can make all the difference. That's why I think if Xabi asks for a defender right now, the club should do everything possible to bring him in. Chelsea really needs him. In my opinion, they sold some key players this season, and this has undoubtedly left them a bit weakened. It has affected them overall; the structure isn't the same.
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September 16, 2026, 06:28:12 PM |
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Other than it, there is also another factor like how Chelsea snubbed Palestra from Inter's radar. So do you guys think Bastoni will go to Chelsea? I also wondering who's gonna be kicked out from their squad if Bastoni is going there.
80 million euro is quite enough to get a good replacement if they decide to let him go. I feel like the fee might be quite much looking at his age but with the current transfer structure it's still okay. The final decision here might be on Bastoni agreement to join us especially since the fee is very much enough or good.
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September 16, 2026, 06:32:08 PM |
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 It seems Xabi is getting upset with how his defenders are playing, then he tells management to bring him a quality defender. The rumor about his club is targeting Bastoni right now. The source says that his club is preparing 80m for Bastoni, which i think it's good amount of money for Intermilan. The only issue whether Bastoni is interesting enough to play in England. A few years ago, Chelsea did same approach to him, but it's all failed because Bastoni decided to stay in Inter. This time Chelsea is trying to approach him again, which makes me feel a bit doubt he will agree to join Blues. Other than it, there is also another factor like how Chelsea snubbed Palestra from Inter's radar. So do you guys think Bastoni will go to Chelsea? I also wondering who's gonna be kicked out from their squad if Bastoni is going there. After Cucurella's departure xabi Alonso need a solid defender to strengthen the defense line, Callobah is also a main defender which leaves Chelsea in the summer so xabi Alonso definitely need a solid defender like Bastoni maybe they can sign him in January otherwise in the summer it's confirmed they will bring one defender definitely. Bastoni is very well profile defender alot of club are interested in him but if xabi Alonso give him trust so they can sign him otherwise big club like Barcelona and madrid are gonna very heavy to bring him in the summer.
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September 16, 2026, 06:47:39 PM |
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 It seems Xabi is getting upset with how his defenders are playing, then he tells management to bring him a quality defender. The rumor about his club is targeting Bastoni right now. The source says that his club is preparing 80m for Bastoni, which i think it's good amount of money for Intermilan. The only issue whether Bastoni is interesting enough to play in England. A few years ago, Chelsea did same approach to him, but it's all failed because Bastoni decided to stay in Inter. This time Chelsea is trying to approach him again, which makes me feel a bit doubt he will agree to join Blues. Other than it, there is also another factor like how Chelsea snubbed Palestra from Inter's radar. So do you guys think Bastoni will go to Chelsea? I also wondering who's gonna be kicked out from their squad if Bastoni is going there. Bastoni is a good player, he is a player that every team will want to have in the squad, but the the problem is Inter Milan, Inter value the player and his release clause is worth 70 million, and the player himself has come out to say that he want to stay at Inter and continue his career, maybe the player will be interested in Chelsea project and he will decide to join the club, but i still believe that the player will want to stay at Inter because they are always the favorite to win the league every season and Chelsea always find it difficult to make it to top four. If Alonso can convince the player it will be a good thing, but Bastoni is use to a club that always play Champions League every season, the reason why i said that is because many players have left Chelsea because the club is not performing in the Champions league, so Bastoni can also think about that and reject the offer to stay at Inter.
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