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April 23, 2017, 01:41:17 AM
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A lot of studies have already proven the medical advantages of marijuana and there are already researches being done that it even can help cancer victims.
Im favor to legalize the marijuana but in medical purposes only not on the human tendency.

Though drugs such as cocaine and meth, whose effects are pretty much exclusively harmful, should not be legalized and allowed easy access
Cocaine and meth are the plaque of the societies , so some governments they keep pushing forward to stop that hard drugs.
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Most conservatives or right-wings worldwide oppose psychoatives legalization, why such unanimity on this topic? I find it strange that there is such a consensus. Do you know why?

Personnally I don't know. They pretend to be for individual liberty/responsability while honoring for most westerners the so called freedom, but in fact are more like zealous little control freaks closer to ISIS in their way of thinking...

Only Libertarians get the concept of ownership of the body by the individual... it goes to whatever-sex to abortion to "drugs".


The problem with drugs is that they carry lots of consequences both long term and short term not only to the one that uses them but society as a whole, consequences like higher amounts of crime, higher costs of health care and family disintegration and since we all pay the cost of that I suppose that is one of the main reasons to forbid drugs for the good of society.
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April 23, 2017, 04:29:46 AM
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Though drugs such as cocaine and meth, whose effects are pretty much exclusively harmful, should not be legalized and allowed easy access
Cocaine and meth are the plaque of the societies , so some governments they keep pushing forward to stop that hard drugs.

If you want to stop the spread of the hard drugs, then you must legalize the soft drugs. If the soft drugs are available, then people will be less inclined to use the more dangerous drugs such as meth.

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April 23, 2017, 08:01:16 AM
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I think you should rather be stating why not everyone is against drug legalization, we know the effects of drugs in the society, it has the ability to destroy lives and ruin the community as a whole, legalization will not be helpful whatsoever. Marijuana legalization is enough.
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April 23, 2017, 09:04:00 AM
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Many factors influence this, why drugs are very dangerous for the successor of the nation, and it would be fatal if the state already uses katif 80% of the total citizens of the country
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April 23, 2017, 10:25:43 AM
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Most conservatives or right-wings worldwide oppose psychoatives legalization, why such unanimity on this topic? I find it strange that there is such a consensus. Do you know why?

Personnally I don't know. They pretend to be for individual liberty/responsability while honoring for most westerners the so called freedom, but in fact are more like zealous little control freaks closer to ISIS in their way of thinking...

Only Libertarians get the concept of ownership of the body by the individual... it goes to whatever-sex to abortion to "drugs".



The presumption is to many people get addicted to drugs plus people really don't want their next door neighbor wreaking the place up with some DANK weed ^^.
Kind of like cigarettes and how long its taken to wean down that user-base and second hand smoke.
Education classes says gateway drugs lead to harder stuff and a binge addicted neighbor needing some quick cash stealing your stuff versus a slightly crazy but never tried drugs neighbor on the macro scale of things makes a difference.

Social good vs Societal Good basically.
On the other hand (Cartels) Western view destroy and make them dig deeper underground and do more evil
Eastern View (Tolerate co-exist towards social peace) But still fight (Japan and Yakuza)

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April 23, 2017, 10:31:50 AM
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If you want to stop the spread of the hard drugs, then you must legalize the soft drugs. If the soft drugs are available, then people will be less inclined to use the more dangerous drugs such as meth.
I definitely agree on legalizing soft drugs but the government must have a control on it by making some laws and regulations like :
1. Dealers and suppliers must be registered to the government.
2. The government set a quantity of grams that dealers will be able to sale on every person.
3. Dealers must be know the person that buying on him/her.
4. Government make a great punishment if someone violate regulations and laws in selling and supplying soft drugs without a permit to the government.

With that laws and regulations government can controlled supplies and dealers of soft drugs.
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April 23, 2017, 11:13:09 AM
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Drugs have no place in today's society , it will surely surely end with nothing good for the entire world

 
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April 23, 2017, 11:21:37 AM
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The answer for that question is incredibly simple in my opinion, however there might be many different correct replies you can make.

One of them is that gangs and criminal groups do want illegal drugs because that can make them very rich, the profits from drug traffic and drug dealing are enormous.

Another one is medical industry. They do not want to see weed legalized, because it can cure or help in thousands of different illnesses. The sales of their pills would have gone down, after all why would anyone take a pill for a headache if you can simply smoke a little bit of weed, to get  well?
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April 23, 2017, 11:36:51 AM
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People that want to get drugs will always have a way. It is not necessary to make things easier to them to be obtained. The negatives far outweigh the positives. Our society is dumbed down enough. There is a reason why the slang term for many drugs is dope

Personnally I don't know. They pretend to be for individual liberty/responsability while honoring for most westerners the so called freedom, but in fact are more like zealous little control freaks closer to ISIS in their way of thinking...


This can't only be attributed to conservatives. Liberals also limit freedom. I always think of their line " as long as it only saves one life" The United States is a very restrictive country. One can't even drive a vehicle without wearing a seatbelt.

The government in general is always trying to protect people from themselves. Even Social Security and all the social nets are done because people generally aren't responsible enough to save money for the future or for rainy days. They don't want you to rely on churches or family for help. They want to be your savior and lifeline.

For the record I don't agree with any of these things. I would tend to call myself and anarchist/capitalist

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April 24, 2017, 05:16:40 AM
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Most conservatives or right-wings worldwide oppose psychoatives legalization, why such unanimity on this topic? I find it strange that there is such a consensus. Do you know why?

Personnally I don't know. They pretend to be for individual liberty/responsability while honoring for most westerners the so called freedom, but in fact are more like zealous little control freaks closer to ISIS in their way of thinking...

Only Libertarians get the concept of ownership of the body by the individual... it goes to whatever-sex to abortion to "drugs".



The major factor that oppose the legalization of drugs is that the impact on the health of its citizens which as we know is an asset to the government itself that the declining health and possibility for the growth of addiction regarding this will increase and results to the declining performance in their work which will put the economy in a disastrous situation.

As you see, there a lot of micro and macro perspectives regarding the effects that’s why it should be carefully studied so it will not cause a great disaster with their decision. I’m not really an expert regarding the effects of these drugs but I trust that they know best and it is up to them whether to legalize it (with moderation and only be used in medications) or not.
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As a conservative, I fully support the legalization of drugs (or at least the soft drugs such as weed). The war on drugs and the ban has only helped the drug mafias and big bankers. If the drugs are made available through government-owned shops, then the drug violence will cease, and the number of deaths from drug overdose will be a thing of the past.

Yes, what we're seeing the world over is some Prohibition Era shit... Just remind them they'll earn money from legalizing drugs, they love taxes.

They are very shrewd. The tax money will go to the treasury, and only a small amount of it can be stolen by the corrupt politicians. On the other hand, if the prohibition remains in place, then the politicians will be able to earn a lot of bribes and commissions, not just from the drug mafias, but also from the big bankers and the pharma cartels.

Seems a more realistic explanation. As always there is the advertised part (protect the children, fight addiction) that modt low level (and iq) operatives bought and then there is your explanation...

Most conservatives or right-wings worldwide oppose psychoatives legalization, why such unanimity on this topic? I find it strange that there is such a consensus. Do you know why?

Personnally I don't know. They pretend to be for individual liberty/responsability while honoring for most westerners the so called freedom, but in fact are more like zealous little control freaks closer to ISIS in their way of thinking...

Only Libertarians get the concept of ownership of the body by the individual... it goes to whatever-sex to abortion to "drugs".



The major factor that oppose the legalization of drugs is that the impact on the health of its citizens which as we know is an asset to the government itself that the declining health and possibility for the growth of addiction regarding this will increase and results to the declining performance in their work which will put the economy in a disastrous situation.

As you see, there a lot of micro and macro perspectives regarding the effects that’s why it should be carefully studied so it will not cause a great disaster with their decision. I’m not really an expert regarding the effects of these drugs but I trust that they know best and it is up to them whether to legalize it (with moderation and only be used in medications) or not.


But fukushima trails? Gmos? Glyphosates? Fracking fluids all legal... i hope you can grasp the hyprocrisy.

You know with internet you have the hedge over the experts. You have to admit that they foremost fight for their steaks. Truth be cast away if necessary. You are free to access all information, even those they don't want you to see. And think, don't rely on them. They are muppets, learning answers to pass tests and get experthood.

The answer for that question is incredibly simple in my opinion, however there might be many different correct replies you can make.

One of them is that gangs and criminal groups do want illegal drugs because that can make them very rich, the profits from drug traffic and drug dealing are enormous.

Another one is medical industry. They do not want to see weed legalized, because it can cure or help in thousands of different illnesses. The sales of their pills would have gone down, after all why would anyone take a pill for a headache if you can simply smoke a little bit of weed, to get  well?

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Most conservatives or right-wings worldwide oppose psychoatives legalization, why such unanimity on this topic? I find it strange that there is such a consensus. Do you know why?

Personnally I don't know. They pretend to be for individual liberty/responsability while honoring for most westerners the so called freedom, but in fact are more like zealous little control freaks closer to ISIS in their way of thinking...

Only Libertarians get the concept of ownership of the body by the individual... it goes to whatever-sex to abortion to "drugs".



The presumption is to many people get addicted to drugs plus people really don't want their next door neighbor wreaking the place up with some DANK weed ^^.
Kind of like cigarettes and how long its taken to wean down that user-base and second hand smoke.
Education classes says gateway drugs lead to harder stuff and a binge addicted neighbor needing some quick cash stealing your stuff versus a slightly crazy but never tried drugs neighbor on the macro scale of things makes a difference.

Social good vs Societal Good basically.
On the other hand (Cartels) Western view destroy and make them dig deeper underground and do more evil
Eastern View (Tolerate co-exist towards social peace) But still fight (Japan and Yakuza)

Addictive behavior prevention. Markets can drop the price of those profucts to almost 0. As you understand it's shit. The only value comes from criminalization and the costs induced by it.

Drugs have no place in today's society , it will surely surely end with nothing good for the entire world

Because you decide? Ban motorbikes too as you are at it.

Most conservatives or right-wings worldwide oppose psychoatives legalization, why such unanimity on this topic? I find it strange that there is such a consensus. Do you know why?

Personnally I don't know. They pretend to be for individual liberty/responsability while honoring for most westerners the so called freedom, but in fact are more like zealous little control freaks closer to ISIS in their way of thinking...

Only Libertarians get the concept of ownership of the body by the individual... it goes to whatever-sex to abortion to "drugs".


The problem with drugs is that they carry lots of consequences both long term and short term not only to the one that uses them but society as a whole, consequences like higher amounts of crime, higher costs of health care and family disintegration and since we all pay the cost of that I suppose that is one of the main reasons to forbid drugs for the good of society.

Isn't it logical to you that criminalizing a victimless, full consent activity will increase crimes? What happenend to you?

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April 24, 2017, 07:45:12 AM
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Obviously, there would always be people who will oppose something, and there would always be a counterpart. Knowing that people can get addicted to drugs means they would be beneficial from it then turning to bankruptcy then eventually be a beggar and lead to committing crimes. I think that's what the government prevents and that's a good thing to do. Drug trafficking could never be stopped because there would always be someone who wants's to buy it. There are a lot of addicts that are willing to do what it takes to get their "high" again. They feel that they have no problems when they are high.

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Most conservatives or right-wings worldwide oppose psychoatives legalization, why such unanimity on this topic? I find it strange that there is such a consensus. Do you know why?

Personnally I don't know. They pretend to be for individual liberty/responsability while honoring for most westerners the so called freedom, but in fact are more like zealous little control freaks closer to ISIS in their way of thinking...

Only Libertarians get the concept of ownership of the body by the individual... it goes to whatever-sex to abortion to "drugs".



Well, i think they will but only those drugs can cure some decease or illness from the brain like Migraines weed can make abnormal people that has a damage on the brain. Mild anxiety is sometimes a side-effect for users, but some people experience mood-elevating effects, as well as a relaxing experience, allowing anxiety sufferers to have a normal life. 5 mental conditions can be cured by weed/ Marijuana here is the link: https://www.theweedblog.com/top-5-mental-conditions-treated-with-marijuana/ .. and so they will legalize drugs but only those can cure mentally ill people not the other way around..
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April 24, 2017, 09:03:36 AM
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Most conservatives or right-wings worldwide oppose psychoatives legalization, why such unanimity on this topic? I find it strange that there is such a consensus. Do you know why?

Personnally I don't know. They pretend to be for individual liberty/responsability while honoring for most westerners the so called freedom, but in fact are more like zealous little control freaks closer to ISIS in their way of thinking...

Only Libertarians get the concept of ownership of the body by the individual... it goes to whatever-sex to abortion to "drugs".



The major factor that oppose the legalization of drugs is that the impact on the health of its citizens which as we know is an asset to the government itself that the declining health and possibility for the growth of addiction regarding this will increase and results to the declining performance in their work which will put the economy in a disastrous situation.

As you see, there a lot of micro and macro perspectives regarding the effects that’s why it should be carefully studied so it will not cause a great disaster with their decision. I’m not really an expert regarding the effects of these drugs but I trust that they know best and it is up to them whether to legalize it (with moderation and only be used in medications) or not.


Yes, the state should take care of the health of its people thereby and increasing the economic level of development, and the legalization of drugs will have the opposite effect.
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April 24, 2017, 10:00:28 AM
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Though drugs such as cocaine and meth, whose effects are pretty much exclusively harmful, should not be legalized and allowed easy access
Cocaine and meth are the plaque of the societies , so some governments they keep pushing forward to stop that hard drugs.

If you want to stop the spread of the hard drugs, then you must legalize the soft drugs. If the soft drugs are available, then people will be less inclined to use the more dangerous drugs such as meth.
There is also another theory - some scientists claim that legalization of soft drugs will increase demand for hard narcotics.
When people realize that soft drugs are quite all right and comparatively harmless they would start seeking something better and stronger.
IMO this claim is totally wrong and I expect when people get a hold of marijuana they would lose interest in drugs because the forbidden fruit effect will be gone.


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April 24, 2017, 11:07:11 AM
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Drugs have no place in today's society , it will surely surely end with nothing good for the entire world

Drugs have their own uses. Even the banned drugs are useful in various forms as painkillers, relaxants, and anti-depression medications. I agree that there seems to be a lot of drug-induced violence going on in this world. But you must understand that banning the drugs and prosecuting the drug users haven't done the trick for the last many decades.
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April 24, 2017, 12:55:23 PM
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Not all drugs should be banned those who are using marijuana or leaves maybe it would be legalize world wide bcoz this is medicine and it proves already drugs has differenct uses but depends on us when we are going to us it.
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April 24, 2017, 02:05:22 PM
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Not all drugs should be banned those who are using marijuana or leaves maybe it would be legalize world wide bcoz this is medicine and it proves already drugs has differenct uses but depends on us when we are going to us it.
Cannabis contains blood within 2 weeks after use. If you legalize its use you will always run the risk of being arrested for driving in a condition of narcotic intoxication. You are willing to part with his car for marijuana use?
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April 24, 2017, 03:38:09 PM
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Drugs have no place in today's society , it will surely surely end with nothing good for the entire world

Drugs have their own uses. Even the banned drugs are useful in various forms as painkillers, relaxants, and anti-depression medications. I agree that there seems to be a lot of drug-induced violence going on in this world. But you must understand that banning the drugs and prosecuting the drug users haven't done the trick for the last many decades.

Perhaps they are useful for some diseases, but dosage is difficult to observe when you want more. With legalization, it is unlikely that they will be used strictly for their intended purpose, it is better not to take risks.
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