Why do conservative worldwide oppose "drugs" legalization?

[Masha Sha]

Most conservatives or right-wings worldwide oppose psychoatives legalization, why such unanimity on this topic? I find it strange that there is such a consensus. Do you know why?

Personnally I don't know. They pretend to be for individual liberty/responsability while honoring for most westerners the so called freedom, but in fact are more like zealous little control freaks closer to ISIS in their way of thinking...

Only Libertarians get the concept of ownership of the body by the individual... it goes to whatever-sex to abortion to "drugs".

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[Prem.Soorajpaul]

How can you legalize drugs? It will be very dangerous. If something like that is done, then the youth will become addicted to drugs, and deaths from overdose will shoot up. This is a very foolish suggestion.

[Masha Sha]

How can you legalize drugs? It will be very dangerous. If something like that is done, then the youth will become addicted to drugs, and deaths from overdose will shoot up. This is a very foolish suggestion.

Why shall the state legislate on what is an individual danger? Don't you think risk assessement is the responsability of the individual? I think motorbiking is very dangerous... if something like that is done, then the youth will become addicted to motorbikes, and deaths from crashes will shoot up. This is a very foolish suggestion (please replace it by hunting, rodeos, diving, alcohol, what ever).

With your mindset only dying is safe.

So here is a classical conservative mindset, thank you for your post btw. From this can be deducted:

1. Taking ownership by the collective of the risk for the individual
2. The children collective responsability
3. Protecting from deaths

LoL.

I will just say that the drug war run since a long time in the us and there is no success...

Then in the case of opioids, there is the pain aspect. And apparently pain aversion is a natural evolution of advanced society.

A few aspect that you may not account: ressources, policing ressources aren't unlimited. Better hunt rapists, pedos, violent and non consent crimes perpetrators or junkies? Do you really care what others do with their bodies and minds willingly as long as it doesn't pose a threat to you?

How does it affect you if a screenwriter in L.A. or a tycoon wife in Manhattan or an insurer from Chirak want something? Remember according to the immutable law of business, it's a legit transactions: 2 concording wills, a price and informed consent... why the fuck wanting to mess with their wants rather than profit from it? Taxing it while providing the full contractual law sets (quality, security, safety etc). Remember there are no victims.

But still it doesn't answer my question, why is it concentrated in a specifical part of the political spectrum worldwide?

A personnal question, if the gov ban bitcoin, what will you do?

[Lacander]

If to legalize drugs, then mankind will quickly destroy itself without any war. It will become even more accessible for children who can easily fall under someone else's influence and destroy themselves. You can make good money on this, but it's a dirty business.

[Masha Sha]

If to legalize drugs, then mankind will quickly destroy itself without any war. It will become even more accessible for children who can easily fall under someone else's influence and destroy themselves. You can make good money on this, but it's a dirty business.

Thank you for providing the argument of savior of mankind and of the children. The someone else infuence is fun for substances of infiluence. Again it's education, i am sure that many dangerous thing aren't forbidden from you.

The question is not how much money can be made but who are you to tell that it's a dirty business? It's some kind of divine intervention that lead you there?

Like in all things, some make it other don't but at the end they all die, one way or the other.

But still no clear sign on why it's in a specific part of the political land map and worldwide. Could you give me a conservative/ring wing party that support legalization anywhere? I am pretty sure that all conservative party worldwide support criminalization. Why, such consensus?

Ps. I will not buy into zrcoin, even if you try to influence me...

[rvrl_23]

Most conservatives or right-wings worldwide oppose psychoatives legalization, why such unanimity on this topic? I find it strange that there is such a consensus. Do you know why?

Personnally I don't know. They pretend to be for individual liberty/responsability while honoring for most westerners the so called freedom, but in fact are more like zealous little control freaks closer to ISIS in their way of thinking...

Only Libertarians get the concept of ownership of the body by the individual... it goes to whatever-sex to abortion to "drugs".

it depends on the drugs you want to be legalized, for example the legalization of marijuana in some countries are still widely debated,
if it is about the legalization of marijuana then I can consider it ethical, because marijuana can cure many illness, it just depends on the person,
on how they use it. It can be good and bad for you if you're not responsible, it like a double edge sword

as per other drugs such as cocaine,metamphetamine,heroine. I think it's foolish to even think about legalizing that kind of drugs.

[Masha Sha]

Most conservatives or right-wings worldwide oppose psychoatives legalization, why such unanimity on this topic? I find it strange that there is such a consensus. Do you know why?

Personnally I don't know. They pretend to be for individual liberty/responsability while honoring for most westerners the so called freedom, but in fact are more like zealous little control freaks closer to ISIS in their way of thinking...

Only Libertarians get the concept of ownership of the body by the individual... it goes to whatever-sex to abortion to "drugs".

it depends on the drugs you want to be legalized, for example the legalization of marijuana in some countries are still widely debated,
if it is about the legalization of marijuana then I can consider it ethical, because marijuana can cure many illness, it just depends on the person,
on how they use it. It can be good and bad for you if you're not responsible, it like a double edge sword

as per other drugs such as cocaine,metamphetamine,heroine. I think it's foolish to even think about legalizing that kind of drugs.

Cure, poison, it s all in the dosage... not all things legally mercantilizeable or financializeable need to be good for health... want to reduce the sugary content of my drinks? Or fat maybe? Salt... nasty it makes you drink more...

The point is that the responsability is of the individual, this is called to be adult. You decide what you want to do.

Again most of those substance have therapeutic application in certain issue to comeback to your point. But why should you care about what an adult do with his life.

If you want to look at something really disturbing is birth control pills effects in water supplies... look at estrogen residue.

Again i come back to my motorbike problem, they are noisy and unsafe and less steerable than a car... meaning that a motorbike driving is dangerous for others too.

[Podgor]

It's all about pharmaceutical lobby blocking the things they make drugs from.
They would lose since you can grow a plant for a low cost instead of buying expensive medication.
The same with opioids etc.

Some drugs like heroine that cause death could be illegal imo.
Many safe drugs like psychdelics and weed are super save and yet alcohol, the worst drug is legal.

It's all about money, they don't care about our safety.

[Masha Sha]

It's all about pharmaceutical lobby blocking the things they make drugs from.
They would lose since you can grow a plant for a low cost instead of buying expensive medication.
The same with opioids etc.

Some drugs like heroine that cause death could be illegal imo.
Many safe drugs like psychdelics and weed are super save and yet alcohol, the worst drug is legal.

It's all about money, they don't care about our safety.

So are you saying that the pharmaceutical lobby is stronger with the conservatives worldwide?

[Mometaskers]

IMHO it would really depend on the immediate effect, long-term effects and the possibility for addiction. Right now in my country we have a problem with meth use and it's spilling over and causing other crimes like rape, robbery and murder. I'd like to see these drugs legalized and regulated like alcohol to take money away from criminal organizations but then I worry about addiction.

If there is a drug that would not be as "hardcore", would not cause significant brain damage in the long run, and is not addictive, then I'd like that legalized instead. If these can be used to wean people away from stuff like meth, then good..

[bryant.coleman]

As a conservative, I fully support the legalization of drugs (or at least the soft drugs such as weed). The war on drugs and the ban has only helped the drug mafias and big bankers. If the drugs are made available through government-owned shops, then the drug violence will cease, and the number of deaths from drug overdose will be a thing of the past.

[TheCoinGrabber]

Weed don't seem so bad, haven't seen people going around robbing people at gun point while hight on weed. We still don't know if it'll fry their brain in the long run but hopefully they're dead when that happens. As for babies, yes that's a concern but stupid bishes drink while they're pregnant anyway and that seem to have more bad effects on the fetus.

As a conservative, I fully support the legalization of drugs (or at least the soft drugs such as weed). The war on drugs and the ban has only helped the drug mafias and big bankers. If the drugs are made available through government-owned shops, then the drug violence will cease, and the number of deaths from drug overdose will be a thing of the past.

Yes, what we're seeing the world over is some Prohibition Era shit... Just remind them they'll earn money from legalizing drugs, they love taxes.

[andresem]

Maybe because someone who calls himself conservative actually is obscurantist
In fact it's surprising, since the Hitlerite forces consumed cocaine methamphetamine and etc. for the soldiers to be hardy.

[bryant.coleman]

As a conservative, I fully support the legalization of drugs (or at least the soft drugs such as weed). The war on drugs and the ban has only helped the drug mafias and big bankers. If the drugs are made available through government-owned shops, then the drug violence will cease, and the number of deaths from drug overdose will be a thing of the past.

Yes, what we're seeing the world over is some Prohibition Era shit... Just remind them they'll earn money from legalizing drugs, they love taxes.

They are very shrewd. The tax money will go to the treasury, and only a small amount of it can be stolen by the corrupt politicians. On the other hand, if the prohibition remains in place, then the politicians will be able to earn a lot of bribes and commissions, not just from the drug mafias, but also from the big bankers and the pharma cartels.

[ridery99]

there's no reason to legalize witchcraft and demon possession.

[Lancusters]

Maybe because someone who calls himself conservative actually is obscurantist
In fact it's surprising, since the Hitlerite forces consumed cocaine methamphetamine and etc. for the soldiers to be hardy.

In Korea during the war, the Americans also took drugs to boost his stamina . How many people have returned addicts? This has led to a large number of suicides and nervous breakdowns among veterans. What good is it?

[Sithara007]

Maybe because someone who calls himself conservative actually is obscurantist
In fact it's surprising, since the Hitlerite forces consumed cocaine methamphetamine and etc. for the soldiers to be hardy.

In Korea during the war, the Americans also took drugs to boost his stamina . How many people have returned addicts? This has led to a large number of suicides and nervous breakdowns among veterans. What good is it?

You are wrong about that. The suicides and nervous breakdowns were mostly a result of the posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD). The drugs didn't had any role in this. On the other hand, certain type of drugs reduced the incidence of PTSD.

[eminem90]

Maybe because someone who calls himself conservative actually is obscurantist
In fact it's surprising, since the Hitlerite forces consumed cocaine methamphetamine and etc. for the soldiers to be hardy.

In Korea during the war, the Americans also took drugs to boost his stamina . How many people have returned addicts? This has led to a large number of suicides and nervous breakdowns among veterans. What good is it?

Yes, it only destroys the human body. Many got a victory without drugs. So I do not see any reason to legalize this rubbish.

[Podgor]

MDMA is proven to halp with PTSD terapy.
It helps change bad memories to not so bad thanks to the serotonin release with MDMA use.

[gabmen]

Well i think proper information and usage is the key in legalizing some drugs. A lot of studies have already proven the medical advantages of marijuana and there are already researches being done that it even can help cancer victims. An open mind about usage will be a lot of help. Though drugs such as cocaine and meth, whose effects are pretty much exclusively harmful, should not be legalized and allowed easy access