AR 15 Lowers

[Sothh]

I am in the processing of designing and building AR 15 lower receivers.  They are made out of aluminum, so they will be much stronger than the plastic ones most people are selling.

The receiver is sold in two halves, and the halves bolt together to form a complete receiver.  Since I am selling a non functioning receiver (a paperweight) its perfectly legal to make, and ship.

The aluminum is about $50, so I will be selling them for BTC1.0  (open to offers.)

You can pre-order one for the cost of the aluminum, and pay the rest when it ships.

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[ny2cafuse]

I'd be interested in seeing the finished lower.  Keep us updated with pics, I'm sure people would be all over this.  I might be depending on the quality.

[crazyates]

They are made out of aluminum, so they will be much stronger than the plastic ones most people are selling.

The receiver is sold in two halves, and the halves bolt together to form a complete receiver.

I'd be interested in seeing the finished lower.  Keep us updated with pics, I'm sure people would be all over this.  I might be depending on the quality.

I'm also interested. Sounds like a really great product, just let me know how it turns out, and pics/vids are always welcome!

[RandyFolds]

Sign me up as for two, pending some pics for us. What kind of manufacturing tolerances will there be from spec? Finished? Anodized?

[mufa23]

Not much of an AR15 fan, but you've certainly perked my interest. Upload those pics

[stevegee58]

I smell coffee and donuts.

[RandyFolds]

I smell coffee and donuts.

BAFTE compliant in most of the US, my man.

[Kluge]

I sincerely doubt selling them in pieces as a kit gives you any more of a legitimate defense than a "build-a-bomb" kit, or selling government secrets but with two documents available with each containing half the letters of words to make up the "whole" document. "Well, there are no secrets -- it just says 'Rnl Raa kld hmef n 18 bt ws rpae wt a coe md ot o crbad' on one, and 'oad egn ile isl 92 u a elcd ih ln ae u f ador" on the other,' so there's obviously no state secrets there."

For the sake of minimal obfuscation, I'd want at least two separate LLCs owned by unique people. LLC A makes one half. LLC B makes the other half. You can only own one of those. Don't reference each other anywhere on the sites.

IANAL... but you should really try reaching out to lawyers to double-check if you haven't already, because this could easily be hard time.

ETA: They see me derpin'.

[Sothh]

I sincerely doubt selling them in pieces as a kit gives you any more of a legitimate defense than a "build-a-bomb" kit, or selling government secrets but with two documents available with each containing half the letters of words to make up the "whole" document. "Well, there are no secrets -- it just says 'Rnl Raa kld hmef n 18 bt ws rpae wt a coe md ot o crbad' on one, and 'oad egn ile isl 92 u a elcd ih ln ae u f ador" on the other,' so there's obviously no state secrets there."

For the sake of minimal obfuscation, I'd want at least two separate LLCs owned by unique people. LLC A makes one half. LLC B makes the other half. You can only own one of those. Don't reference each other anywhere on the sites.

IANAL... but you should really try reaching out to lawyers to double-check if you haven't already, because this could easily be hard time.

I know people who have shipped entire (read the whole freaking rifle) AR-15s through the mail and not got in trouble.  Its not illegal to even sell the entire receiver, I just have to have it shipped specially (to a dealer).

[pheaonix]

itt: bitcoin people that don't know gun law

[RandyFolds]

Here: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=AR+receiver+blanks

[crazyates]

Yes, it's known that an 80% receiver is able to be sold with no licensing or shipping restrictions, and can be machined by the person who purchased it, for a completely legal firearm.

You're saying that this method is similar. It is nothing more than 2 blocks of aluminum (almost like the 80%), and requires some assembly before it can be used (just like the 80%).

[RandyFolds]

Yes, it's known that an 80% receiver is able to be sold with no licensing or shipping restrictions, and can be machined by the person who purchased it, for a completely legal firearm.

You're saying that this method is similar. It is nothing more than 2 blocks of aluminum (almost like the 80%), and requires some assembly before it can be used (just like the 80%).

Look at the first google result for 'AR receiver blanks'.

[QuestionAuthority]

Yes, it's known that an 80% receiver is able to be sold with no licensing or shipping restrictions, and can be machined by the person who purchased it, for a completely legal firearm.

You're saying that this method is similar. It is nothing more than 2 blocks of aluminum (almost like the 80%), and requires some assembly before it can be used (just like the 80%).

Look at the first google result for 'AR receiver blanks'.

Do you know if there are pistol blanks available too? I don't need an AR but it would be cool to make a pistol.

BTW: Where have you been? I haven't seen you post for a looong time.

[RandyFolds]

Yes, it's known that an 80% receiver is able to be sold with no licensing or shipping restrictions, and can be machined by the person who purchased it, for a completely legal firearm.

You're saying that this method is similar. It is nothing more than 2 blocks of aluminum (almost like the 80%), and requires some assembly before it can be used (just like the 80%).

Look at the first google result for 'AR receiver blanks'.

Do you know if there are pistol blanks available too? I don't need an AR but it would be cool to make a pistol.

BTW: Where have you been? I haven't seen you post for a looong time.

Was living in a cabin in the woods in Texas for a while, foraging for all sorts of food and mushrooms, ripping huge gar and catfish out of the brazos, and shooting feral pigs. There were a lot of guns and Lone Star. Tecshare dragged me back in by telling me how volatile things were...needless to say, some safe wallets were dusted off for this playground.

[QuestionAuthority]

Yes, it's known that an 80% receiver is able to be sold with no licensing or shipping restrictions, and can be machined by the person who purchased it, for a completely legal firearm.

You're saying that this method is similar. It is nothing more than 2 blocks of aluminum (almost like the 80%), and requires some assembly before it can be used (just like the 80%).

Look at the first google result for 'AR receiver blanks'.

Do you know if there are pistol blanks available too? I don't need an AR but it would be cool to make a pistol.

BTW: Where have you been? I haven't seen you post for a looong time.

Was living in a cabin in the woods in Texas for a while, foraging for all sorts of food and mushrooms, ripping huge gar and catfish out of the brazos, and shooting feral pigs. There were a lot of guns and Lone Star. Tecshare dragged me back in by telling me how volatile things were...needless to say, some safe wallets were dusted off for this playground.

That sounds like great fun. So you retired to your “country estate” for a while. Nice! I think Bruno cried for like a month when you left. LOL

Welcome back!

Legend:
A redneck condo is an RV on a small plot of land.

A fully detached home is a single wide mobile on a larger parcel of land.

A mansion is a double wide mobile on several acres.

A country estate is a cabin in the woods.

[logicbomb666]

Personally, I would be more interested in the complete lower shipped to ffl dealer. 

[stevegee58]

Yes, it's known that an 80% receiver is able to be sold with no licensing or shipping restrictions, and can be machined by the person who purchased it, for a completely legal firearm.

You're saying that this method is similar. It is nothing more than 2 blocks of aluminum (almost like the 80%), and requires some assembly before it can be used (just like the 80%).

Generally manufacturers of 80% lowers have a letter from BATF stating that they looked at their plans and a prototype and have approved it as an 80%.

Where's OP's BATF letter?

[RandyFolds]

Yes, it's known that an 80% receiver is able to be sold with no licensing or shipping restrictions, and can be machined by the person who purchased it, for a completely legal firearm.

You're saying that this method is similar. It is nothing more than 2 blocks of aluminum (almost like the 80%), and requires some assembly before it can be used (just like the 80%).

Generally manufacturers of 80% lowers have a letter from BATF stating that they looked at their plans and a prototype and have approved it as an 80%.

Where's OP's BATF letter?

Out of curiousity, how many of these letters have you seen?

[barbarousrelic]

There is no way that the BATFE is going to agree that bolting one half to the other half constitutes 20% or more of the process of manufacturing a lower.