[SCAM] Foxminers?

[Gleb Gamow]

***  Foxminers LLC If someone buys this miner without a well-known and trusted Forum User 1st getting one for doing a review and posting it here then well, you have been warned ***

Hmm. Th article in Bitcoinist about the Foxminers scam has gone a-missing... http://bitcoinist.com/foxminers-interview-dual-scam/

Did anyone grab a Wayback of the page?

edit: damn it. Just looked and not archived. Crap.
Grabbing ones of TheMerkle articles before they possibly disappear as well.
Got them.
Both  http://web.archive.org/web/20170428231520/https://themerkle.com?s=Foxminers

Full 1st article  http://web.archive.org/web/20170428231713/https://themerkle.com/cryptocurrency-mining-hardware-scam-education-foxminers/

Full 2nd article  http://web.archive.org/web/20170428231238/https://themerkle.com/how-to-expose-a-bitcoin-mining-scam/

Here's the cache: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:BineOLq6v1AJ:bitcoinist.com/foxminers-interview-dual-scam/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Save it now, bud.

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[Gleb Gamow]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/6865qu/cryptocoinsnews_and_cointelegraph_actively/

Yea and Bitcoinist removed their article....

...
Yous are Waybacked for Posterity
Looks like the Wayback has a record of them back to 2014. Hmm...
http://web.archive.org/web/20140417134402/http://foxminer.com:80/product-category/sha-256-bitcoin-mining-hardware/

Contact

Fox Miner Headquarters

Av Leguario, 49, 1st floor, office 5.
28981 Parla, Madrid, Spain
Email: hello@foxminer.com

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1734098.720

[omshree]

Oh Brenda, that sweet old granny, went to visit her the other day, gave me cookies she baked using the heat of the  FM9800-XD1112, so good, gave me bitcoins too

[Gleb Gamow]

Oh Brenda, that sweet old granny, went to visit her the other day, gave me cookies she baked using the heat of the  FM9800-XD1112, so good, gave me bitcoins too

Brenda Mae's Famous F.® FM9800-XD1112 Chip Cookies^TM - Haz just a DASH of [mined] Morton Salt.

[Wusolini]

I am sure the Foxminer guy is lurking here as well. Also here is an update:

I wen't to brendas address again today, knocked on her door and she refused to answer. That is okay as next time I will show up with 2 police officers and I am getting real tired of this crap.

Maybe before I thought she was innocent, but at this point I am 110% certain that she received compensation from this scam. She also went and told the scammer that I stopped at her door the first time because not 10 minutes after I left i received a threatening email from him.

This guy thinks he can get away with shit like that, well good luck with it when the feds start investigating. I filed a report with Brenda's name and address on it, if she doesn't want to deal with me she can deal with the cops.

Wow this is turning serious ... they obviously tried to threaten wrong guy. Good job themerkle, give those scammers what they deserve.

[NotFuzzyWarm]

Here's the Google cached version, notfuzzywarm.  http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:BineOLq6v1AJ:bitcoinist.com/foxminers-interview-dual-scam/

I don't know how to wayback stuff and gotta run, so I'll let you do the deed.

Is easy go to http://web.archive.org and take a look at their front page, Don't *have* to register or Donate but is of course nice to do to support them. Only restriction seems to be if a site blocks crawlers -- like Google's cached pages. Cointelegraph also refused allowing to be Waybacked.

There are a couple URL entry boxes to use, one is tagged to specifically add pages and is best place to start if the site/pages have not already been added by someone else.

[NotFuzzyWarm]

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UfoMainers scammers? It was clear from the first day?
Damn, but why did not I find any negative reviews and records about them from a month ago? I translated them 20 bitcoins and silence, no parcel
There is no government for them? Where to find them?
Has anyone dealt with this issue?
Tell me how to write a complaint on the form of IC3? Can it work?
THX...

1st, sorry to say but safe bet your BTC is gone forever...
2nd, how did you search? I just entered "UFOminers scam" and Goolge returned over 10 pages of links. 1st page of links are for Dec 2016 ....

The complaint form is for the Federal database of complaints against a company. Is the 1st step required if you try to sue them and/or have them prosecuted. If you do -- good luck. Be aware that YOU will have lawyer fees to pay. IF the people can be found/tried/convicted there remains the big IF and WILL they pay restitution.

[delicopsch56]

LEO and FBI seem best case scenario at this point to me, especially since themerkle is local enough and is pretty torqued.  If you are in the US there are victim compensation funds for some crimes in at least some states if convicted criminally, but I don't know what crimes apply (maybe just violent) or the compensation that could be had.  FBI may not take it seriously enough due to low volume, they have scarce resources like everyone, and I imagine they are still quite busy with Nigerian Prince scams that have been debunked for an eon.

Worst case, as NotFuzzyWarm says very expensive lesson, possible tax deduction in the US.

Dammit, NEVER order presale anything without real serious terms and proof, people.  That right there is the best thing each individual consumer can do.

[NotFuzzyWarm]

One thing you can do to hurt them: go to every 'news' site that has their PR release and leave a comment telling everyone your story. Start with the word SCAM.

For sites like TheMerkel that DO expose these scams, leave a comment confirming the company is a scam and again your story as to why.

Speaking of the 'news' sites that blindly publish these paid-for Public Relations stories...
WTF is wrong with you folks? You think of yourselves as legitimate news sites and yet blithely publish PR for what typically either screams SCAM or at a minimum is highly suspect to any person knowledgeable in crypto-coin hardware.?

You all have seen these scams many many times before so WHY to you publish these without doing a single bit of REAL journalism? You know -- checking into a company and their supposed Wonder of the Year miners to see if they are even real? Seems all these sites care about is if the scammers check cleared so they got paid  

[Unacceptable]

One thing you can do to hurt them: go to every 'news' site that has their PR release and leave a comment telling everyone your story. Start with the word SCAM.

For sites like TheMerkel that DO expose these scams, leave a comment confirming the company is a scam and again your story as to why.

Speaking of the 'news' sites that blindly publish these paid-for Public Relations stories...
WTF is wrong with you folks? You think of yourselves as legitimate news sites?

You all have seen these scams many many times before so WHY to you publish these without doing a single bit of REAL journalism? You know -- checking into a company and their supposed Wonder of the Year miners to see if they are even real? Seems all these sites care about is if the scammers check cleared so they got paid  

Tried that,the sites they picked to post on do not allow comments in any way......................................

[Gleb Gamow]

Foxminers EXPOSED

https://themerkle.com/how-to-expose-a-bitcoin-mining-scam/

Excellent review and investigation
Can you say something similar about the company UFOMINERS?
from Las Vegas? Are they scam or not? Since he contacted them and paid 20 BTC for the equipment. Track code dosih has not yet been received on the parcel, and the company itself once a week reports that it will be soon and the parcel will be at the customs in my country, and so it's almost a month instead of the promised 5 days.
There is a feeling that FOXMINERS is the reincarnation of the previous UFOMINERS because the subject matter of the sites is very similar.  It remains to only verify the number of purses for payment in the blockchain BTC.
Thank you for attention.
 

UFOMINERS was a scam from day one.

UfoMainers scammers? It was clear from the first day?
Damn, but why did not I find any negative reviews and records about them from a month ago? I translated them 20 bitcoins and silence, no parcel
There is no government for them? Where to find them?
Has anyone dealt with this issue?
Tell me how to write a complaint on the form of IC3? Can it work?
THX...

Too bad you've only been involved in crypto since 2014 according to your Twitter account -https://twitter.com/VasilSopot/ - else you would've been able to recognize a scam from the get-go. Live and learn, I guess.

[themerkle]

https://trustednerd.com/2017/04/30/foxminers-has-crossed-the-20-million-mark-in-pre-order-for-its-f24-and-f48-miners/

Jonathan Yaniv is a name I keep seeing around here. Anybody can get more info on him? I think other PRs published by Foxminers were under his name. Might be an alias for Johnathan F, which is supposedly their sales guy.

[delicopsch56]

Press release form of same:

https://globenewswire.com/news-release/2017/05/01/975056/0/en/FoxMiners-has-Crossed-the-20-Million-Mark-in-Pre-Order-for-its-F24-and-F48-Miners.html

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Could be a bunch of tech article material to evaluate there on that site, regarding thoughts on 'trusted'.  I don't have the time to look for possible correlations, sorry. 

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[Xandrah]

Any more news on this scam? I am curious if police have been sent to her address yet.

[Gleb Gamow]

Any more news on this scam? I am curious if police have been sent to her address yet.

Given that no police were sent to BFL's facility during the height of their money grab, I kinda doubt that they're gonna to take the time to knock on the door of a 62-year-old woman who has her name on some charter of a business that's 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999% a scam.

On the other hand, if she was a homeowner with the last name Wagner who sold some bitcoins as a hobby, there'll be a SWAT team at home within hours making her young children lie on the floor and be quiet else their brains would be blown out.

[Unacceptable]

Any more news on this scam? I am curious if police have been sent to her address yet.

Given that no police were sent to BFL's facility during the height of their money grab, I kinda doubt that they're gonna to take the time to knock on the door of a 62-year-old woman who has her name on some charter of a business that's 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999% a scam.

On the other hand, if she was a homeowner with the last name Wagner who sold some bitcoins as a hobby, there'll be a SWAT team at home within hours making her young children lie on the floor and be quiet else their brains would be blown out.

Tell the police she's sellin Bitcoins to kids!!!!!! 

[madmartyk]

Any more news on this scam? I am curious if police have been sent to her address yet.

Given that no police were sent to BFL's facility during the height of their money grab, I kinda doubt that they're gonna to take the time to knock on the door of a 62-year-old woman who has her name on some charter of a business that's 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999% a scam.

On the other hand, if she was a homeowner with the last name Wagner who sold some bitcoins as a hobby, there'll be a SWAT team at home within hours making her young children lie on the floor and be quiet else their brains would be blown out.

Tell the police she's sellin Bitcoins to kids!!!!!! 

Tell the IRS she's not paying taxes on her BTC!!!

[lsc]

Does anyone live near you and can visit this company?
I was offered to stop by and watch the miner F48.
Some near 15495 Los Gatos Boulevard, Los Gatos, CA 95032

[nuanicaj]

they stopped by it was a residence not a company.

They lady that answered the door didn't realize a scam was running.

[lsc]

they stopped by it was a residence not a company.

They lady that answered the door didn't realize a scam was running.

Thank you
Has anyone been to the police and makes an ad or does anyone know the address of the relevant police service?