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April 22, 2017, 08:26:12 PM
Last edit: April 22, 2017, 08:45:43 PM by aikklond
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Hello everybody.

Is 4gb System ram enough for a Windows 10 6 GPU miner?


I dont intend to mine just one Crypto (e.g. eth or zec) but i want a versatile system.

Also how about using Virtual Machine to run a minning os like simplemining.net, will 4gb be enough? Will I lose performance anyway;

My cpus are g4560
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April 23, 2017, 12:51:18 AM
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Hello everybody.

Is 4gb System ram enough for a Windows 10 6 GPU miner?


I dont intend to mine just one Crypto (e.g. eth or zec) but i want a versatile system.

Also how about using Virtual Machine to run a minning os like simplemining.net, will 4gb be enough? Will I lose performance anyway;

My cpus are g4560


a 4gb ram stick should deb good.

your vm should deb set to 16 gb even 24gb or 32gb.

this is for windows 7 or 10.


just get a cheap ssd  a 64gb is big enough.  i am not a big fan of you cpu but it will do


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-BX80677G4560-7th-Gen-Pentium-Desktop-Processors-/302272904960?

I try to find these

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Core-i3-6100T-3-2GHz-3M-Cache-DualCore-LGA1151-CPU-Processor-SR2HE-/322490605689?
I have paid as low as 83 used.

or these


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Core-i5-6400T-6th-Gen-2-2GHz-Skylake-S-Processor-SR2BS-Tested-/262945971681?

I have paid 97 used.


but your cpu will work

this ssd is pretty good

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-MMCRE64G5MPP-OVA-2-5-64GB-SATA-ll-Solid-State-Drive-SSD-/182538242329?

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April 23, 2017, 01:43:43 AM
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I've been thinking about using VM for running a mix nvidia and amd rig.. don't know if it works but it could be useful in certain cases..
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April 23, 2017, 01:44:10 AM
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a 4gb ram stick should deb good.

your vm should deb set to 16 gb even 24gb or 32gb.

this is for windows 7 or 10.


just get a cheap ssd  a 64gb is big enough.  i am not a big fan of you cpu but it will do



Yes, this is what I do as well. I have quite a few rigs with only 4GB RAM and I just set the Virtual memory to 16 GB. I don't even think you need this much, but most of the excess capacity on a mining rig SSD goes to waste anyway, so why not.
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April 23, 2017, 02:59:02 AM
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I get a kick when people discuss two different things without realizing it.

VM in the OP is Virtual Machine not Virtual Memory.

CPU mining using a VM is possible but has limitations. Some advanced CPU features like AVX2
may not be supported in the VM even if presdent on the host CPU. It also makes little sense to
build a VM to mine with the CPU unless it is a different OS than the host and the SW isn't available
for the host OS.

GPU mining from a VM is not possible due to the lack of video driver support. Even if possible it
wouldn't make sense for the same reasons as for CPU mining.

AKA JayDDee, cpuminer-opt developer. https://github.com/JayDDee/cpuminer-opt
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5226770.msg53865575#msg53865575
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April 23, 2017, 03:17:20 AM
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I get a kick when people discuss two different things without realizing it.

VM in the OP is Virtual Machine not Virtual Memory.


Myself, I get a kick out of how arrogant some posters are.

The OP was asking two separate questions, one about system RAM and the second about running on a VM.

Myself, I was addressing the first portion, thus why I spelled out Virtual Memory and not just used the VM abbreviation, as you pointed out can mean multiple things. With only 4 GB RAM you would need to enable a larger amount of Virtual Memory within Windows, since Claymore for one even suggests 16 GB, than you would with a larger amount of physical RAM. So yes, the virtual memory discussion was relevant as it relates to his first question.

As far as his second portion I have no experience mining with Virtual Machines so I did not address it.
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April 23, 2017, 04:13:18 AM
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I get a kick when people discuss two different things without realizing it.

VM in the OP is Virtual Machine not Virtual Memory.


Myself, I get a kick out of how arrogant some posters are.

The OP was asking two separate questions, one about system RAM and the second about running on a VM.

Myself, I was addressing the first portion, thus why I spelled out Virtual Memory and not just used the VM abbreviation, as you pointed out can mean multiple things. With only 4 GB RAM you would need to enable a larger amount of Virtual Memory within Windows, since Claymore for one even suggests 16 GB, than you would with a larger amount of physical RAM. So yes, the virtual memory discussion was relevant as it relates to his first question.

As far as his second portion I have no experience mining with Virtual Machines so I did not address it.

Clarifying there are two meanings of VM being used is not arrogance. But inferring insult when none existed
is passive aggressive. My response had nothing to do with the relevance of virtual memory and GPU mining.

BTW the virtual memory (swap, pagefile) should be at least as much as the total GPU memory. I also like
the CPU to have a dedicated thread per GPU. Two CPUs for 6 GPUS could introduce some latency. The 4/8
core/thread Ryzen is perfect for a big GPU mining rig.


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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5226770.msg53865575#msg53865575
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April 23, 2017, 05:40:26 AM
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I get a kick when people discuss two different things without realizing it.

VM in the OP is Virtual Machine not Virtual Memory.


Myself, I get a kick out of how arrogant some posters are.

The OP was asking two separate questions, one about system RAM and the second about running on a VM.

Myself, I was addressing the first portion, thus why I spelled out Virtual Memory and not just used the VM abbreviation, as you pointed out can mean multiple things. With only 4 GB RAM you would need to enable a larger amount of Virtual Memory within Windows, since Claymore for one even suggests 16 GB, than you would with a larger amount of physical RAM. So yes, the virtual memory discussion was relevant as it relates to his first question.

As far as his second portion I have no experience mining with Virtual Machines so I did not address it.

Clarifying there are two meanings of VM being used is not arrogance. But inferring insult when none existed
is passive aggressive. My response had nothing to do with the relevance of virtual memory and GPU mining.

BTW the virtual memory (swap, pagefile) should be at least as much as the total GPU memory. I also like
the CPU to have a dedicated thread per GPU. Two CPUs for 6 GPUS could introduce some latency. The 4/8
core/thread Ryzen is perfect for a big GPU mining rig.



arrogance

    :  an attitude of superiority manifested in an overbearing manner or in presumptuous claims or assumptions
    : an insulting way of thinking or behaving that comes from believing that you are better, smarter, or more important than other people

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I get a kick when people discuss two different things without realizing it.

The faulty assumption you thought someone was mistaking in talking about virtual memory instead of virtual machine just because they both can be abbreviated as VM and your statement of getting a kick out of this perceived mistake is the very definition of the display of arrogance. Implying someone has displayed arrogant behavior is not inferring any insult has happened, just pointing out a fact. The rest of my response was simply to clarify upon this fact.

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