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April 29, 2017, 12:00:33 PM
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i wanna see your water turbine.. Cool
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April 29, 2017, 12:44:17 PM
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hahah its not mine, a mates...

Next time im there ill take a few pics. im sure he will let me. its a nice small setup hes just a lucky Bstard lol
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April 29, 2017, 01:12:12 PM
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Cheesy
hahah its not mine, a mates...

Next time im there ill take a few pics. im sure he will let me. its a nice small setup hes just a lucky Bstard lol

and maybe we can make a new thread about  water turbines...maybe some of us, including me can learn about those turbine setups, and what kind of stream is good enough to generate substantial amount of energy....got a lot of questions going on in my head.
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April 29, 2017, 01:41:00 PM
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Cheesy
hahah its not mine, a mates...

Next time im there ill take a few pics. im sure he will let me. its a nice small setup hes just a lucky Bstard lol

and maybe we can make a new thread about  water turbines...maybe some of us, including me can learn about those turbine setups, and what kind of stream is good enough to generate substantial amount of energy....got a lot of questions going on in my head.

Yeah I want to see about the water power.

I am rebuilding the solar array layout in may to prep for the summer power rate

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1369207.0

op when I got into the solar array deal  I was geared towards using the s-9 and r-4 from bitmaintech  and the gear broke a lot.

I am looking forward to running  more gpu gear then planned this year.

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April 29, 2017, 02:13:17 PM
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Cheesy
hahah its not mine, a mates...

Next time im there ill take a few pics. im sure he will let me. its a nice small setup hes just a lucky Bstard lol

and maybe we can make a new thread about  water turbines...maybe some of us, including me can learn about those turbine setups, and what kind of stream is good enough to generate substantial amount of energy....got a lot of questions going on in my head.

Yeah I want to see about the water power.

I am rebuilding the solar array layout in may to prep for the summer power rate

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1369207.0

op when I got into the solar array deal  I was geared towards using the s-9 and r-4 from bitmaintech  and the gear broke a lot.

I am looking forward to running  more gpu gear then planned this year.

i've seen your solar power thread..batteries and inverter regulates voltage output while mechanical power generation requires constant speed like 1800 rpm...water stream speed is not always constant...if charging batteries and inverter will be used to regulate voltage for water power it would be a much more expensive setup.
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April 30, 2017, 10:27:07 AM
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Hey that's some impressive solar setup..

puts my meesley 4kw to shame  Cry lol even if it does have 4kw/h of batteries connected to it http://www.powervault.co.uk which stores excess unsed power which would be sent to grid and releases it when theres a demand.

@arielbit, mechanical systems don't need to be constant use a normal 3 phase motor connected to an inverter with an  'active front end' and a small controller (I bet an arduino would work), that's what I work with massive inverters 3-12Mw currently offshore on 6Mw inverters but work on siemens 3.6mW wind turbines, solar farms (3-10Mw) 'yes even in the uk hahahah! and hydro electric power stations (denorwig 'electric mountain') and even small chp plants burning woodchip with only 45kw power lol...

that's another passion of mine renewable energy.... hence why if I see wasted power I want to do something with it.... bit of hashing I believe Wink

back to my hashing.

I have decided to take the plunge and have a go. 2 x cards ordered from scan computers @£166 each not a bad price. if I don't like it or it doesn't work then ill just sell them, if I get the bug ill just buy more Wink

I have ordered 6 x riser cards, at only £24 for 6 ' the decent ones with 4 caps etc' and my spare pc motherboard is nooooo good what so ever for this job! so I might as well look for a decent card. ive looked at the ASRock Z97 Anniversary and the one with 6 pci-e is like rocking horse shit to find in uk. Anyone know of a decent motherboard I can get my hands on? im not that arsed if I use 4 gpu's per motherboard any good board at a decent price (or even that I can get hold of)

Im going to use Ubuntu, any reccomendations for this?, what to stay away from etc... what size hdd do I need? etc etc....

My thoughts are to ask as many questions before buying stuff so I don't have to buy twice. once I have the hardware then the floodgates of questions will start...lol

cheers guys  Cool

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April 30, 2017, 10:41:30 AM
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Wow  Thanks guys!

Really wasn't expecting so much help and response.

Right, its not that I want to sit on my fat ar#e and do nothing Tongue, I like the idea of do it yourself, I am an engineer by trade. built many a pc.. you know my main put off for the cpu and gpu route is cooling. ive seen so many graphics cards fans fail, its like a never ending circle, the big plus about the asic system for me is just 2 fans.... me likes that a lot... (its always bloody fans that fail Undecided)

What kind of graphics card is best? I have already looked and the r9-290 is popular, but in the uk its about £300 yes I have a bit of cash but I still would like most bang for my buck (both buying hardware and hashing).
these 6 card systems you can make for circa $1600 what components are you using?
if i was to build my own, would it be better to use 3 x 4 card systems instead of 2 x 6 card (less heat per cm3)
if i was to build my own what difference will a decent cpu make? can I mine that too? what mainboard / processor you think i should go for? and the most important the GPU!
I just had a look at the panda miner £2300 just seems to much for the power it delivers!

@Philip lol had a heart attack when i saw the pages.... im working away atm so ill be reading that over the next few days... its that or eat eat eat lol. (thanks for the links) ill have a read and ask some less noob questions once digested.




Dude, a little warning, gpu mining is going to change bigtime in the next few months, firstly new amd card is coming out within 2 months called the vega it will prob blow away anything used to mine eth etc at the moment in efficiency and speed, that will send the difficulty up massively and undervalue the rx 470 , 480 range meaning you could buy them a lot cheaper in 2 months. Also by november its possible eth will switch to pos which means u wont be able to mine it with cards anymore. So imagine every single eth miner now having to switch to another gpu coin like zcash or monero. Their difficulty will skyrocket then which could increase their price, but not necessarily, so just thought id let you know, with free power you should be right but you may wannna wait 2 months to see what happens with vegas specs and cheaper outlaw on your rx470/480s. Or just avoid gpu mining completly , which id do, your a little late to the game for a gpu mining investment. Even if you make roi wat then? youll have outdated cards, and a overcrowded gpu mining global hashrate on every other gpu coin. Vega and eth pos could be the end of profitable gpu mining profitability next year..

Has anyone gotten their hands on a vega and tested to this point / could you direct me to any extensive threads on the card?

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April 30, 2017, 12:25:59 PM
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Vega is still no yet released , i saw some test videos it seems like a monster card should do great results on mining specialy it's new memory type you can add a memory to the card from ram or sdd as i understand , anyways i think it will not be cheap so not everyone can build a pure vega rigs, but it will change alot in the game.

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April 30, 2017, 11:46:54 PM
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@arielbit, mechanical systems don't need to be constant use a normal 3 phase motor connected to an inverter with an  'active front end' and a small controller (I bet an arduino would work), that's what I work with massive inverters 3-12Mw currently offshore on 6Mw inverters but work on siemens 3.6mW wind turbines, solar farms (3-10Mw) 'yes even in the uk hahahah! and hydro electric power stations (denorwig 'electric mountain') and even small chp plants burning woodchip with only 45kw power lol...

that's another passion of mine renewable energy.... hence why if I see wasted power I want to do something with it.... bit of hashing I believe Wink


gonna have a few reads about the info you've given me...I wanted to acquire a land with a stream going through it so one day I can have a mini hydro power plant too (yeah keep dreaming hehe  Cheesy ).

that's an excellent passion..crypto needs more miners with renewable energy. in my eyes miners with renewable energy are one of the upper/higher class of miners like people who can mod cards to become more efficient and people who can develop miner software.

imagine bitcointalk in the future have a new section "renewable energy section" hehe anyway..good luck mining cryptos, with renewable energy I'm pretty sure you'll have a new kind passion coming to you (crypto mining).
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May 01, 2017, 01:41:03 PM
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Hahaha,

Power and energy I may know a deal on.... crypto a big fat '0' at the min, my goal is to turn some of the waste energy into cash but that dream is fading as I read more and more into the pitfalls etc of mining. This looks like it could become a hobby as its fascinating the shit out of me right now... and because of that ive ordered parts for a 2 gpu setup mainly just to learning, then maybe get a few gpu rigs up and mining.

Heres my conundrum and the million dollar question.

After a long convo with my friend who owns the power/location it seems I can only have a small corner of space, approx. 1 rack of dexian bolt together shelving maybe 2 at a push. He is not keen on pc's approach as he thinks they would attract attention of the people that occasionally come around and ASIC wouldn't as just 1 pc and the rest are noisey silver boxes no one recognizes, he is worried about theft and prefers the blank box solution, but honestly I don't.... If I was to set up messy pc's with gpus every where im sure he would have kittens.  Huh

heres my question guys. as I have a lot to learn...

my thinking is this. Buy 6 x ANTMINERS L3+ and leave at his location, mine LTE and use profits (if any) to buy pc equipment and gpu mine later.
this addresses 3 issues. 1 my fussy mate and 2 my lack of knowledge (gives me time to play on a smaller GPU rig) and 3. there is a possible other location I can access to put pc's to gpu mine but that wont happen for at least a year. (a CHP plant mainly wanting the heat! electricity is a by product!!!!)

I don't want to jump in balls deep with antminers, as I really don't like the idea of buying something that just does 1 job (and I also have no control), but I feel I am being pushed that way. My main concern is will I even come close brake even with the cost of equipment in this late stage of mining LTC with ASIC. I don't want to spend £10k on Miners to be £6k out of pocket due to getting sweet fook all back. That's not the case though is it? if it all went to shit id just have to mine a lot longer to recoup the costs, right?

If all works out and I get some cash back does anyone think GPU mining will even be viable in a years time?  as if im forced down the antminer route now I wont have the cash till its all paid off. circa when ever  Undecided

I cant wait to get home and GPU mine lol  (i am maxing out the internet here with pages and pages of altcoin mining info )
If all works out well i could be mining using GPU at the next location (he has 10's of KW's spare) using any profits for Antminers at the Hydro place to fund the latter.... but tbh just breaking even would be nice!


off line wallets? how much space do i need on HDD?
with GPU mining does a SSD HDD even make any difference?
can you mine GPU if there is an internet loss of connection for a short time?
whats your guys average use for internet bandwith ? (vs your capacity (#rate)
is windows or Linux better?

so whats your thoughts on it all guys?

Cheers guys Wink


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May 01, 2017, 11:41:13 PM
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if you are worried about theft you should go with pc case which you can pad lock (or mod it so you can lock it)..you can use chains, chain that pc so nobody can pick it up and animals can't damage it...i've seen modified case for gpu mining here in mining section of the forum that can accommodate maybe 6 gpus.

you can't go wrong with free electricity...start with one rig, number of cards depends on how many you can put in there.

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off line wallets? how much space do i need on HDD?
with GPU mining does a SSD HDD even make any difference?
can you mine GPU if there is an internet loss of connection for a short time?
whats your guys average use for internet bandwith ? (vs your capacity (#rate)
is windows or Linux better?


off line wallets?.. you can mine directly to exchange like poloniex, you can mine to a wallet address even if its not connected to internet, coins will be there after it synced when it goes online.

SSD or HDD does not affect gpu mining...I'm still using 80gb sata HDD here.

mining software typically/normally resumes after the internet connection goes back online.

mining does not consume a lot of bandwidth...the lowest ISP bandwidth I've used in mining is 3mbps and i think even with about 512 kbps bandwidth you can still mine..

I'm using windows and I'm okay...Linux users here will tell you they are okay too....so just setup what would be comfortable to you..mining is a journey, you can change things to cater your needs later.

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May 02, 2017, 04:22:04 AM
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Is it safe to store wallet dat files online as a backup?  Hackers could only access it with the wallet key phrase right?

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