Bitcoin Forum
December 03, 2024, 08:08:30 PM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 28.0 [Torrent]
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register More  
Pages: [1] 2 »  All
  Print  
Author Topic: SCANDAL SONM.IO I AM LOOKING for BOUNTY Hunters or DEBT collectors in MOSCOW  (Read 4212 times)
barnaba (OP)
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 75
Merit: 10


View Profile
May 01, 2017, 12:04:36 AM
 #1

SCANDAL  SONM.IO I AM LOOKING for BOUNTY Hunters or DEBT collectors in MOSCOW and/or LAW COMPANY to REPRESENT me LOCALLY.

WILLING to PAY fair % fee for collecting DEBT


Server www sonm.io illegally transferred from initial team to some impostors team just few days before launch of preICO.

MARKETERS for project don't get PAYMENT.

CO-FOUNDERS are being snatched by new fresh team without legit establishing of new team.

Holders of my SONM.io funds, this is just a theft.

Not authorized getting in possession of funds which are not yours (how can you call it?) and then unauthorized dispose of those funds at free will without any proper control.

Not paying employees and co-founders is a scandal image of sonm.io team especially Sergey Ponomarev, Alexey Antonov and Andrey Voronkov former CEO.

I AM LOOKING for DEBT collectors in MOSCOW and LAW COMPANY to REPRESENT me LOCALLY.
I WILLING to PAY fair fee for collecting DEBT

Typical agreement in team all have the same structure, if you have experience in law please check it before you place your bet to me ...

http://imgur.com/a/RbTor


Lets track the up and downs of the project:

Almost half a year ago co-founders start working on PoC drug discovery at home, which was started in general in 2009.

Timetable of changes in whitepaper is outstanding just 2 days before ICO start old whitepaper was replaced with new one.

Team was changed in majority just few days before start of pre-ICO, not everybody was aware of that.
Maybe there were some different www sites depends on which country or IP you are from.

Experienced developers which attracted more than 100BTC of investment were changed just few days before preICO launch to very young and inexperienced team of developers, which are in bigger number to compensate qualifications level. Fear of failure started emerge from that day.

Team from original whitepaper and original co-funders:
http://imgur.com/a/A2UNH
In the shapeshift time:
http://imgur.com/a/NEXhQ

Newborn team 7 maybe 8 days before preICO starts:

http://imgur.com/a/G6ngH

Actual team: Ponomarev + former CEO changed to DrugDiscovery at home CEO just PR figure not in project anymore. Rest come just to collect money after first investors declaration.

Team cooperation and synergy was a big problem in the team.

From the very beginning the whole project was at risk because of bad management of people, tasks in project and holding work on purpose by Sergey Ponomarev, who wanted the whole project for himself. Shadows of crippled team management.

At some point I was included in telegram channel SONM CORE-developers, without particular reason as in this project I should be responsible for marketing, biz dev and design concept in general, not technical details.
It appeared that Ponomarev is not obligated to do smart contract development because of typo in his agreement.

See here his original responsibilities
http://imgur.com/a/a0cb6
 To sabotage and take over project from original team:

and his email about refusing to make Ethereum development which everybody in team, including him, were perfectly aware that this suppose to be his duty and it was main reason why he is participating. Also he PROMISE me that at the end everything for me should work out well …
[Sergeis email ]

http://imgur.com/a/s6FLB

Even that wasn't the worst thing, after few weeks of disputes, he created a smart contract which was not so good in quality as we would expect from someone who is describing himself on sonm.io website as experienced smart contract developer. Here is a crosscheck reference of Ponomarev code done by junior Ethereum developer Max Taldykin.

http://telegra.ph/Review-of-the-SONM-presale-contract-02-04

After I saw code and it’s reference by Max sent to Andrew, and as my PR and image was used in whitepaper to bust credibility to this code, I asked to be described differently and publicly stated that I am not responsible for core development of sonm project, as I am part of marketing sale team not core dev team of sonm architecture. This code was terrifying at every line and design and way of thinking like someone who want it all at all costs.

After few days, the dispute end-up that Max has created new smart contract and I do additional testing of it, in the meantime, as we already had big delays, mostly because of Ponomarev denies of action on smart contract development and fuss which arises around that.

CEO Andrew ask me to edit post so it would look better.

The fights inside team for domination in project between Andrew and Ponomarev were everyday more and more clear. Even if whole team was cooperating in March, after few potential investment declarations, money on table triggered greed in young inexperienced in development part of team.

Nevertheless after  few more delays we set a new date of crowdsale, end of March. It appears that the www server was sabotaged or hacked. The team was replaced not in legit way. Few days later new crowdsale date appears on www site, Andrew gives away project www site under control of Ponomarev’s new team, knowing that they have a lot of obligations for original team for they work as mine documents were base for every whitepaper after 1st:


http://imgur.com/a/X3BYh

New whitepaper which must be reduced from all my influence was reduced from 46  pages to this lacking on real technical and detailed concept fast draft whitepaper on website sonm.io.


They even officially kicked some team members, but not me as very cooperative person not looking for argues. I was never mentioned as ex member, ex co-founder, I haven't got termination of agreement. As there would be not base for it with any kind of reasoning.

But whole February and March and even April I was receiving email from CEO about current tasks for me:
[LISTED ]
February
http://imgur.com/a/ppd8P
March
http://imgur.com/a/5yLtZ


At the end Sergey Ponomarev, Alexey Antonov, and  Andrey Voronkov refused to pay me my part, due they just don’t want to, they have no legit claims to my part of shares in project, ICO and trademark.

I had quite big influence on vision of product which could be very beneficial for customers and investors, right now it is very reduced so that team members would be capable to talk about it and explain it on interviews.

As I value my work and have legal documents to execute my claims as I stated at the beginning I am looking for law local representative and debt collector company with location preferably in Moscow.

I will give up 15% or more I can negotiate the % to give up, at this point the time is essential as they have funds as it is just few days after funds were released after crowdfund.

The three people which can have direct access to funds is definitely Ponomarev as CEO and one more person, most likely among
Alexey Antonov and Vasiliy Ivanov (rebel Salesman)

With lead dev code being smashed by new junior smart contract developer...

The mastermind behind the scenes and pusher to monetization to this project asap to get funds knowing that Sergei is not capable to lead any team at all.

[Sergeis Ponomarev CEO capabilities in Alexei’s view]

http://imgur.com/a/roXyF

He is also initiator of transferring control of sonm.io domain to current sonm.io team after everything was settled down and there was agree to do two separate backend solution with one selling point to users. (As Sergey had so many development visions better than BOINC, which can't even till now they weren't fully transformed to whitepaper, maybe in time visions can be transferred at least to basic documentation )
Fast Money for Alexei most important:
http://imgur.com/a/Z4VVW

Recently also Alexey try to bribe me for silence and not triggering all legal issues which occurred during crowdsale performance.

even so he claims it his own initiative, rest of the team is not even basically aware of that something like law exist in Russia. Maybe stealing toys on playgrounds were their hobby with no consequences, adult real world is little different than WoW or Lineage.

Please give me feedback with propositions as it is very legit and easy to execute case ( I have dozens of emails , agreement, and hundreds of screenshots for evidence  for companies which will be initially interested).


It  was shocking to me that finally after seeing all good results and in details of my agreement they refuse to payout for job done.

As experienced developers don't control neither 25 neither 58% funds of project there is risk of LISK scenario for it right now or worse, as it is hard to develop code being in jail.

So Investors watch out this project and check if team is arrested or not …. and is it changing more and more or not. Next month maybe new team will be in sonm. Better make screenshots right now and download whitepaper, because it can change 24 h before crowdfunding start and all recessions and interviews on network will be outdated.

Like this CEO and preICO encourage movie changed:
Former CEO:
Andrew Voronkov
https://www.dropbox.com/login?cont=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dropbox.com%2Fhome%2FSONM%2FVideo with


New Impostor CEO:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTMCAXDMyfc&t=179s

May’s long weekend is coming and I know that  debt and law companies may have problems to analyze everything very carefully but short look on documents can give a clear view of current situation.



I AM LOOKING for BOUNTY Hunters or DEBT collectors in MOSCOW and/or LAW COMPANY to REPRESENT me LOCALLY  in MOSCOW.

WILLING to PAY fair % fee for collecting DEBT

 


I
cryptonia
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 340
Merit: 250



View Profile
May 01, 2017, 04:40:40 AM
 #2

Was there no escrow service?
rebel.salesman
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 396
Merit: 101



View Profile WWW
May 01, 2017, 02:48:20 PM
 #3

Barnaba, you gotta stop posting this bullshit, as you are not a SONM team member for more than 2 months.



Just to make things clear:

1. Barnaba's message (04 feb 2017) about leaving SONM team (he has edited the message, but it's still in the quote in the reply):
https://i.imgur.com/mg2E6uH.jpg

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1777667.msg17733030#msg17733030

Just to make things clear - he hasn't quit the SONM team, he was kicked because of incompetence and lack of skills\commitments.


2. One of the few examples of Barnaba's work (and his skills):




3. Official press releases from the SONM team and Andrew Voronkov, one of the SONM founders who has hired Barnaba:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1845114.msg18471271#msg18471271

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1845114.msg18457225#msg18457225



Barnaba, you are not a SONM team member, you can't provide any decent results and commitments, and you are trying to damage the SONM project reputation.
SONM team will announce an official press release about your fraud attempts in 1-2 days.

Stay tuned.
barnaba (OP)
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 75
Merit: 10


View Profile
May 02, 2017, 12:35:42 PM
 #4

Regulations of pre-ico clearly stated that the owner of sonm.io is (according to whom is databases) Andrew Voronkov, performing this crowdfunding.
PART of PREICO regulations from sonm.io website during preICO says:

“Terms and Conditions

These Terms and Conditions is a contract between the user and SONM.io and applies to your use of the SONM.io website (https://sonm.io) and any services provided in conjunction with the website and association with SONM.
In these Terms and Conditions:
- Terms and Conditions also referred as Agreement
- The user also referred as you, user or your
- Sonm.io is also referred as Sonm.io, SONM, SNM, we, us or our
- Sonm.io website (https://sonm.io) is also referred as website
When using this Website or Services, the user shall be deemed to have accepted and agreed to be bound by the terms and conditions of this Agreement, and our Privacy Policy.”

Alexei says that he is not side of my agreement and that he doesn’t need to pay anything.
How can you call that any other than a fraud ?
Refer to leaving core dev which is telegram group not established by any law or agreement as your second way of fraud attempt is hilarious and is in logical contraposition to statement that you don’t need to pay as sonm.io team is not side of agreement. Mess in code and all shitstorm about it don’t need be part of my story … and daily updates in phone.

Owner of sonm.io was during preICO Andrev Voronkov, I haven’t seen any agreement which could take away those funds. All passing of rights of brand sonm.io must be done with co-founders signature. Andrev is also only admin of my creation fanpage of sonm.io on facebook.
 http://imgur.com/a/vxjvN
What kind of fraud is that? Show the documents based on which you fraud escrow to pay you money.  Legendary SebastianJu definitely had good documents to pass you all funds unless he is also a part of this fraud.
Your statement is clear that you don’t need to pay because agreement was with Andrew not you, but on other side you can’t be owner of sonm.io. Only way to this preICO is by violating my agreement by you - Alexei Antonov, Andrev Voronkov and  Sergei Ponomarev.
I try to mediate and negotiate to save sonm brand value but they attitude and final statement is the same all the time. In short -> We (Alexei and Sergei and Andrew) trick you and don’t need to pay anything. ( I think that I am not the only one tricked by you).

To avoid payment to me is some kind of fraud please show some details and agreements I am really interested.

Alexei Antonov from Federal Finance messing with project for 1 month and then Alexei Antonov violatie agreements to change CEO to his part time employee  Sergei Ponomarev, how fishy is that…

I hope you all end up in jail.

I
axlroses
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 672
Merit: 500


View Profile
May 02, 2017, 12:56:07 PM
 #5

so SONM scam?
kikukk
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 1148
Merit: 104



View Profile
May 02, 2017, 01:19:44 PM
 #6

WHAT do you think now ,,
or SONM,IO , SCAM Project  Cry
paladium
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 448
Merit: 250


CHIEF GROWTH OFFICER OF GLOBAL ENTERPRENEUR


View Profile
May 02, 2017, 01:31:20 PM
 #7

It really is such an event. SONM needs to explain.

             ▄▄
          ▄▄████▄▄
       ▄▄████▀▀████▄▄
    ▄▄████▀      ▀████▄▄
 ▄▄████▀            ▀███▀
████▀                  ▀  ▄▄
███                      ▄██
███                      ███
███   ███▄        ▄███   ███
███   █████▄    ▄█████   ███
███   ███▀███▄▄███▀███   ███
███   ███  ▀████▀  ███   ███
███   ███    ▀▀    ███   ███
███▄  ███          ███  ▄███
 ▀███▄███          ███▄███▀
   ▀█████          █████▀
     ▀███          ███▀
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██


▄█████████████████████▄
███████████████████████
█████████████████▀▀▀███
███████████▀▀▀      ███
█████▀▀▀       ▄    ███
██▄         ▄█▀    ████
█████▄    ▄█▀      ████
████████▄█▀       █████
██████████  ▄     █████
██████████ ███▄  ██████
███████████████████████
███████████████████████
▀█████████████████████▀


▄█████████████████████▄
███████████████████████
██████████████▀▀▀██████
████ ▀███████     ▀▄███
████   ▀▀█▀▀      ▄████
█████              ████
██████             ████
███████▄          █████
███████▀        ▄██████
███▀▀        ▄▄████████
███████████████████████
███████████████████████
▀█████████████████████▀


▄█████████████████████▄
███████████████████████
████████████▀▀▀▀███████
██████████▀     ███████
██████████   ██████████
████████▀▀   ▀▀████████
████████       ████████
██████████   ██████████
██████████   ██████████
██████████   ██████████
██████████   ██████████
███████████████████████
▀█████████████████████▀


▄█████████████████████▄
█████▀▀         ▀▀█████
███    ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄    ███
██   ████▀▀▀▀▀██▀▀   ██
██  ███▀       ▀  █  ██
██  ██▀  █████  ▀██  ██
██  ██  ███████  ██  ██
██  ██▄  █████  ▄██  ██
██  ███▄       ▄███  ██
██   ████▄▄▄▄▄████   ██
███    ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀    ███
█████▄▄         ▄▄█████
▀█████████████████████▀


▄█████████████████████▄
██████████████▀████████
████████████▀ ▄ ▀  ▀███
███████████ ▄███▄  ▄███
███████████ ███████████
██▀  ▀█▀▀     ▀▀█▀  ▀██
██     ▄▄     ▄▄     ██
███▄  ████   ████  ▄███
████   ▀▀     ▀▀   ████
█████  ▀▄▄   ▄▄▀  █████
███████▄▄ ▀▀▀ ▄▄███████
███████████████████████
▀█████████████████████▀


▄█████████████████████████▄
███████████████████████████
████▀▀▀▀███████████████████
███      ██████████████████
████▄▄▄▄███████████████████
████    ██    █▀    ▀██████
████    ██            █████
████    ██    ▄███▄    ████
████    ██    █████    ████
████    ██    █████    ████
████    ██    █████    ████
████    ██    █████    ████
▀█████████████████████████▀
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
rebel.salesman
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 396
Merit: 101



View Profile WWW
May 02, 2017, 04:16:26 PM
 #8

Barnaba, you gotta stop posting this bullshit, as you are not a SONM team member for more than 2 months.



Just to make things clear:

1. Barnaba's message (04 feb 2017) about leaving SONM team (he has edited the message, but it's still in the quote in the reply):
https://i.imgur.com/mg2E6uH.jpg

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1777667.msg17733030#msg17733030

Just to make things clear - he hasn't quit the SONM team, he was kicked because of incompetence and lack of skills\commitments.


2. One of the few examples of Barnaba's work (and his skills):




3. Official press releases from the SONM team and Andrew Voronkov, one of the SONM founders who has hired Barnaba:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1845114.msg18471271#msg18471271

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1845114.msg18457225#msg18457225



Barnaba, you are not a SONM team member, you can't provide any decent results and commitments, and you are trying to damage the SONM project reputation.
SONM team will announce an official press release about your fraud attempts in 1-2 days.

Stay tuned.
rebel.salesman
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 396
Merit: 101



View Profile WWW
May 02, 2017, 05:24:35 PM
 #9

https://coinidol.com/ex-member-of-somn-racketeers-investors/

lowbander80
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1036
Merit: 1000


View Profile
May 03, 2017, 07:23:13 AM
 #10

“Unpaid 2541 Eths and 600 Eths for services,
Dear sonm.io team CEO Sergei Panomarev,
This letter is pursuant to sonm.io marketing agreement to pay Barnaba Pawełczak for services with milestone preICO dated March 15, 2017 for the amount of 2541 Ether ETH.
and additional 600 Ether ETH for services ordered in February.
{Agreement is attached}
Your failure to pay as per the 4th May, 2017 of (2541 Ether) amounts will cause further steps including court of law.
Please acknowledge receipt of this letter within three business days.
Please make your payment as soon as possible to address: 0xEf10c784A1DBAda148C9ac5ADe561049880c22c0
Thank You in advance for your attention to this urgent matter.
I look forward to hearing from you. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact via email.
Yours Sincerely,
Barnaba Pawełczak”

Email he is sending out to people
lowbander80
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1036
Merit: 1000


View Profile
May 03, 2017, 07:28:45 AM
 #11

I think people should have a bit more information whats going on here before this gets out of hand.Is the man legally owed the money? Does he have a contract to say he is to get paid? How much damage has this caused the project
Gastotade
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 545
Merit: 250


Colletrix - Bridging the Physical and Virtual Worl


View Profile
May 03, 2017, 07:35:42 AM
 #12

I think people should have a bit more information whats going on here before this gets out of hand.Is the man legally owed the money? Does he have a contract to say he is to get paid? How much damage has this caused the project

Nothing at all. There is still no damaged to the project since SONM is not even starting their ICO. I think this is just an internal to their team. And I smell something fishy out here. But rest assured. SONM is a trusted project. They are using escrow. SebastianJu if I'm right.

Please fix this SONM devs team.

SIGMA.
by HYDRA X
▄▄████████▄▄
▄████████████████▄
▄████████████████████▄
███████████▀    ▐███████
███████████    ▄▄█████████
▐██████████▀    ▀▀█████████▌
▐█████████▌       █████████▌
▐███████████    ███████████▌
███████████    ███████████
██████████    ██████████
▀████████▄  ▄████████▀
▀████████████████▀
▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
.No commissions.
.or hidden fees.
Sign Up


barnaba (OP)
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 75
Merit: 10


View Profile
May 03, 2017, 07:46:30 AM
 #13

Even this article is a fraud...
https://coinidol.com/ex-member-of-somn-racketeers-investors/
This agreement is not mutual and is not bounding as final version with completely different set of tasks than graphic design is here: http://imgur.com/a/RbTor signed by me and Andrew
As final result I did perform some quick backup graphic design for logotypes , www, and pitchdeck - which were used just for few accelerators and were done in case if Sergei Ponomarev continue blackmail and leave team with clear position that he will sue for copyrights and usign graphic designs, if sonm use them ( and time is critical in startups) nevertheless all graphic designs perfomed by me were out of scope of my duties and were created in emergency case to fill the gap if materials which should provide Sergei Ponomarev (coop Oksana) will be not usable in legit clear way for project for example 1-2 days before crowdfunding starts...
also my duties (listed in final version of _mutual_ agreement http://imgur.com/a/RbTor ) are nothing nearby graphic design as those are Sergeis Ponomarev (or rahter his coop Oksana) duties and responsibles:
http://imgur.com/ivTlbc7
Delays and copyrights issues for graphics was main part of sabotage performed by Sergeis Panomarev and Alexei to change CEO from Andrew to Sergei and take over (not in legit way ) whole project after 3-6 months of work of others members on it and investors declarations (money on table)
http://imgur.com/a/RbTor
This is final _mutual_ version of agreement this in article/ sonm statement is some middle discussion with one side signature.


I
rebel.salesman
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 396
Merit: 101



View Profile WWW
May 03, 2017, 09:36:16 AM
 #14

Even this article is a fraud...
https://coinidol.com/ex-member-of-somn-racketeers-investors/
This agreement is not mutual and is not bounding as final version with completely different set of tasks than graphic design is here: http://imgur.com/a/RbTor signed by me and Andrew
As final result I did perform some quick backup graphic design for logotypes , www, and pitchdeck - which were used just for few accelerators and were done in case if Sergei Ponomarev continue blackmail and leave team with clear position that he will sue for copyrights and usign graphic designs, if sonm use them ( and time is critical in startups) nevertheless all graphic designs perfomed by me were out of scope of my duties and were created in emergency case to fill the gap if materials which should provide Sergei Ponomarev (coop Oksana) will be not usable in legit clear way for project for example 1-2 days before crowdfunding starts...
also my duties (listed in final version of _mutual_ agreement http://imgur.com/a/RbTor ) are nothing nearby graphic design as those are Sergeis Ponomarev (or rahter his coop Oksana) duties and responsibles:
http://imgur.com/ivTlbc7
Delays and copyrights issues for graphics was main part of sabotage performed by Sergeis Panomarev and Alexei to change CEO from Andrew to Sergei and take over (not in legit way ) whole project after 3-6 months of work of others members on it and investors declarations (money on table)
http://imgur.com/a/RbTor
This is final _mutual_ version of agreement this in article/ sonm statement is some middle discussion with one side signature.




So, what were your duties and your work? Can you provide some examples, links, some results of your work?

You are posting tons of some bullshit texts, opening bullshit threads with tens of bullshit posts - but there is nothing except your words in these posts proving that you've actually done anything.


This is the only one example of your work and your only one result:
(There is your signature in the bottom of this masterpiece. That's right, copyright, nobody will steal your work of art!)

 

lowbander80
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1036
Merit: 1000


View Profile
May 03, 2017, 08:02:12 PM
 #15

as a largish investor of some projects, not too many mind you, I have totally taken this off my radar.Looks a bit fishy all around even scammy to me
krzyszpPL
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 6
Merit: 0


View Profile
May 06, 2017, 10:50:22 PM
 #16

I can confirm, with my agremeent with Andrey  Voronkow we both have 52% of shares so "sonm" team have NO RIGHTS to anything there without our agreement. This is scam project and in my opinion all investors will lose their money...
krzyszpPL
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 6
Merit: 0


View Profile
May 11, 2017, 10:06:58 PM
 #17

What a surprise... "sonm team" just removed me from Telegram group... Their really worry to show people the facts...
Foex
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 432
Merit: 250


Bitrated user: Foex.


View Profile WWW
June 15, 2017, 12:05:18 PM
 #18

Hello everyone, SebastianJu here, official escrow of SONM. Normally I would have written something already days ago about how things will move and would have given more details. Unfortunately I lost contact with everyone from SONM some time ago. I requested to speak about and check the new contracts some time already and was told it will happen before the ICO.

Well, I often tried to get in contact the last days also, sent pm's on bitcointalk as well as email and dm's on slack to rebel.salesman, who normally is my contact, alexey and sergey. I was ignored except finally sergey answered me with the actual link to the ico contract on github. I checked and found it a bit strange to read nothing about anything pointing to the use of an escrow.

So I used a channel with sergey and rebel.salesman on slack and wanted things to clear. Time already was pretty far by that point because no one bothered to speak with me:

Quote
@channel it looks to me like there is no escrow involved anymore in the ico contract. I would appreciate to hear something else but the code leaves a different impression. Also you did not communicate with me at all about the ico even though I was told we would speak upfront about it. I tried to get in contact all the last days. Time is forward way too far now so it does not sound believable to happen. Also having too much work to do is not believable since the seamless work of the escrow part is fundamental for the safety of the ICO into both directions.
I do not know what happened. Maybe you would have wished to renegotiate the escrow fee. You did not try that at all. Maybe you wanted more safety... in that case I would have been able to bring in one or two other trustworthy escrows and create a 3 of 5 multisig. but no communication happened.
Guys, I will go to bed now. Please answer me in a proper way so that it looks like you take this serious. I hope this can be cleared earlier than 6 hours before the ICO starts.
I really hope you can tell me I interpreted everything wrongly.

Well, 2 hours earlier rebel.salesman answered me with this:

"Sebastian, hi, sorry for delayed response - lots of work to do at the moment.

We are going to use ICO smart contract with multisignature as the escrow. Multisignature will be held by Sergey Ponomarev, Alexey Antonov, and SONM advisers.

I'm really sorry we didn't contact you earlier to discuss it.
Lots of work is not an excuse, we should tell you about it before.

Anyway, it's pleasure to have business with you. Thank you for your help and your time during the preICO!"

So the ICO is NOT escrowed anymore. The invested funds will be held by the SONM team totally. I can not provide any safety from now on and I need to take my name from the safety sign of the SONM ICO. Just to make clear that I will have no access nor control about invested funds.

Not sure what to say about that behavior. I believe nobody would have contacted me without me pressuring that way. People would have invested believing I hold the funds in escrow. Which is not the case.

Nobody contacted me about negotiating something upfront, telling me about a change or tried changing something in the deal for the ICO.

So that's what I unfortunately only found out by putting pressure on the topic.

So again... this ICO is not escrowed anymore. Funds will be hold and controlled by SONM totally from the start.

0xdB9A9D39B17F1223BF590a3F9D1FC7f2058eB111
barnaba (OP)
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 75
Merit: 10


View Profile
June 15, 2017, 01:52:48 PM
 #19

Hello everyone, SebastianJu here, official escrow of SONM. Normally I would have written something already days ago about how things will move and would have given more details. Unfortunately I lost contact with everyone from SONM some time ago. I requested to speak about and check the new contracts some time already and was told it will happen before the ICO.

Well, I often tried to get in contact the last days also, sent pm's on bitcointalk as well as email and dm's on slack to rebel.salesman, who normally is my contact, alexey and sergey. I was ignored except finally sergey answered me with the actual link to the ico contract on github. I checked and found it a bit strange to read nothing about anything pointing to the use of an escrow.

So I used a channel with sergey and rebel.salesman on slack and wanted things to clear. Time already was pretty far by that point because no one bothered to speak with me:

Quote
@channel it looks to me like there is no escrow involved anymore in the ico contract. I would appreciate to hear something else but the code leaves a different impression. Also you did not communicate with me at all about the ico even though I was told we would speak upfront about it. I tried to get in contact all the last days. Time is forward way too far now so it does not sound believable to happen. Also having too much work to do is not believable since the seamless work of the escrow part is fundamental for the safety of the ICO into both directions.
I do not know what happened. Maybe you would have wished to renegotiate the escrow fee. You did not try that at all. Maybe you wanted more safety... in that case I would have been able to bring in one or two other trustworthy escrows and create a 3 of 5 multisig. but no communication happened.
Guys, I will go to bed now. Please answer me in a proper way so that it looks like you take this serious. I hope this can be cleared earlier than 6 hours before the ICO starts.
I really hope you can tell me I interpreted everything wrongly.

Well, 2 hours earlier rebel.salesman answered me with this:

"Sebastian, hi, sorry for delayed response - lots of work to do at the moment.

We are going to use ICO smart contract with multisignature as the escrow. Multisignature will be held by Sergey Ponomarev, Alexey Antonov, and SONM advisers.

I'm really sorry we didn't contact you earlier to discuss it.
Lots of work is not an excuse, we should tell you about it before.

Anyway, it's pleasure to have business with you. Thank you for your help and your time during the preICO!"

So the ICO is NOT escrowed anymore. The invested funds will be held by the SONM team totally. I can not provide any safety from now on and I need to take my name from the safety sign of the SONM ICO. Just to make clear that I will have no access nor control about invested funds.

Not sure what to say about that behavior. I believe nobody would have contacted me without me pressuring that way. People would have invested believing I hold the funds in escrow. Which is not the case.

Nobody contacted me about negotiating something upfront, telling me about a change or tried changing something in the deal for the ICO.

So that's what I unfortunately only found out by putting pressure on the topic.

So again... this ICO is not escrowed anymore. Funds will be hold and controlled by SONM totally from the start.
That is quite usual for that kind of people.

I
rkp13
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 172
Merit: 100


View Profile
June 15, 2017, 02:14:25 PM
 #20

@barnaba as I quoted below, can you please provide the actual proof of your work with Sonm other than your words here?

Is the graphics I quoted is your work? Is that the best what you have provided for Sonm?



Even this article is a fraud...
https://coinidol.com/ex-member-of-somn-racketeers-investors/
This agreement is not mutual and is not bounding as final version with completely different set of tasks than graphic design is here: http://imgur.com/a/RbTor signed by me and Andrew
As final result I did perform some quick backup graphic design for logotypes , www, and pitchdeck - which were used just for few accelerators and were done in case if Sergei Ponomarev continue blackmail and leave team with clear position that he will sue for copyrights and usign graphic designs, if sonm use them ( and time is critical in startups) nevertheless all graphic designs perfomed by me were out of scope of my duties and were created in emergency case to fill the gap if materials which should provide Sergei Ponomarev (coop Oksana) will be not usable in legit clear way for project for example 1-2 days before crowdfunding starts...
also my duties (listed in final version of _mutual_ agreement http://imgur.com/a/RbTor ) are nothing nearby graphic design as those are Sergeis Ponomarev (or rahter his coop Oksana) duties and responsibles:
http://imgur.com/ivTlbc7
Delays and copyrights issues for graphics was main part of sabotage performed by Sergeis Panomarev and Alexei to change CEO from Andrew to Sergei and take over (not in legit way ) whole project after 3-6 months of work of others members on it and investors declarations (money on table)
http://imgur.com/a/RbTor
This is final _mutual_ version of agreement this in article/ sonm statement is some middle discussion with one side signature.




So, what were your duties and your work? Can you provide some examples, links, some results of your work?

You are posting tons of some bullshit texts, opening bullshit threads with tens of bullshit posts - but there is nothing except your words in these posts proving that you've actually done anything.


This is the only one example of your work and your only one result:
(There is your signature in the bottom of this masterpiece. That's right, copyright, nobody will steal your work of art!)

 


Pages: [1] 2 »  All
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!