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Question: When World War 3 starts, Will countries be stuiped enough to use Nukes?  (Voting closed: May 04, 2017, 05:26:06 AM)
USA will Use Nukes - 6 (24%)
USA will Not use Nukes - 4 (16%)
Russia Will Use Nukes - 0 (0%)
Russia WIll not use Nukes - 6 (24%)
England will use Nukes - 3 (12%)
China Will use Nukes - 1 (4%)
China WIll not Use Nukes - 5 (20%)
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June 12, 2017, 05:08:12 PM
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If a single country used nukes at the start of a great war, everyone who has access to nukes would follow suit. Though i don't think england would be the first one to do this and hopefully no country would be stupid enough to initiate a nuclear attack. A nuclear warfare would mean almost extinction level disaster for everyone.

I guess the most powerful nuclear weapons have a blast radius of less than 100km. So a nuclear warfare doesn't automatically mean the end of all forms of life on this planet, at least for the short term. But in the long term, survival will be difficult, provided how quickly the radiation spreads through air and water.
This is only a theory. The Japanese survived after the nuclear bombings, and Chernobyl disaster. There are many people who never left the area of infection and safely live there still. Animals are also great feeling in there. The effect of radiation is still too poorly understood to speak of the destruction on the planet.

Hiroshima and Nagasaki were rebuild after a few years and hundreds of thousands of people are living there now. It seems like the radiation lasted only a few months, or years. And in Chernobyl, the blast radius was quite small. I really doubt whether it was greater than 100 meters. But the radiation was more spread-out. It even caused a spike in cancer incidence in the Scandinavia.

Hiroshima and Nagasaki could be rebuild, because all the rubble - which was radioactive, was removed. Those devastating atoms bind themselves to any sort of matter, so while you are right - air is poisonous for a few months, buildings and environment will stay so for many years.

Even after one month in shelter, single day of exposure would sterilize you. And make you lose your body hair.

Nuclear winter is also not a science-fiction. Large volcano eruptions are able to force regional climate cooling, enough nukes would block out sun for years globally - killing fauna a flora even in the areas unscathed by explosions and dropping temperature by as much as 15 degrees celsius.
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June 12, 2017, 05:14:16 PM
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You paint a picture of the Apocalypse, but scientific confirmation of this. No one really knows how the radiation from the explosion. Maybe it's fake scientists to anybody in a head has not come to use nuclear weapons.
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June 13, 2017, 02:17:20 AM
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You paint a picture of the Apocalypse, but scientific confirmation of this. No one really knows how the radiation from the explosion. Maybe it's fake scientists to anybody in a head has not come to use nuclear weapons.

It has been scientifically proven. In addition to all those who died as a result of burn injuries in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, many tens of thousands died later as a result of exposure to radiation. Also, there was a sharp increase in the incidence of cancer.

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June 13, 2017, 10:24:51 AM
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You paint a picture of the Apocalypse, but scientific confirmation of this. No one really knows how the radiation from the explosion. Maybe it's fake scientists to anybody in a head has not come to use nuclear weapons.

It has been scientifically proven. In addition to all those who died as a result of burn injuries in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, many tens of thousands died later as a result of exposure to radiation. Also, there was a sharp increase in the incidence of cancer.
No one disputes these effects, but they are very small even in Japan, not to mention the world. Who in the world have noticed the effects of nuclear testing at the nuclear test sites of the countries with nuclear weapons. So I don't really believe in nuclear winter.
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June 13, 2017, 08:33:47 PM
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You paint a picture of the Apocalypse, but scientific confirmation of this. No one really knows how the radiation from the explosion. Maybe it's fake scientists to anybody in a head has not come to use nuclear weapons.

It has been scientifically proven. In addition to all those who died as a result of burn injuries in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, many tens of thousands died later as a result of exposure to radiation. Also, there was a sharp increase in the incidence of cancer.
No one disputes these effects, but they are very small even in Japan, not to mention the world. Who in the world have noticed the effects of nuclear testing at the nuclear test sites of the countries with nuclear weapons. So I don't really believe in nuclear winter.

We won't really know for sure unless we're already in one. And the scale of radiation won't even be close to that of hiroshima or nagasaki in case we indeed are plunged into nuclear warfare. One or two nukes can flatten an entire town with radiation effecting surrounding areas, imagine how a full scale nuclear war would look like when it comes to the destruction it will wreak.

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June 13, 2017, 09:43:42 PM
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You paint a picture of the Apocalypse, but scientific confirmation of this. No one really knows how the radiation from the explosion. Maybe it's fake scientists to anybody in a head has not come to use nuclear weapons.

It has been scientifically proven. In addition to all those who died as a result of burn injuries in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, many tens of thousands died later as a result of exposure to radiation. Also, there was a sharp increase in the incidence of cancer.
No one disputes these effects, but they are very small even in Japan, not to mention the world. Who in the world have noticed the effects of nuclear testing at the nuclear test sites of the countries with nuclear weapons. So I don't really believe in nuclear winter.

Actually yes, the person before you disputed those facts. Sithara rekted him.

"Artifical" winter already happened in Earth history, it is just matter of volume. Meteor, that ended reign of dinosaurs also didnt kill them overnight (atleast not those in the vicinity of several hundreds of kilometres or near shores). Massive firestorms that swallowed up both fauna and flora in the days after the fall created enough debris to block out sun for many years. Even oceanic creatures then started to die enbloc.

Much smaller Toba volcano explosion nearly exterminated humankind - likewise it happened in great distance from cradle of humanity but significant global cooling put a rift into enviromental stablity needed for development of species.
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June 13, 2017, 09:51:25 PM
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Recently North Korea stated that they are going to attack japan with a missile. As an update yesterday japan is now trying to buy a tomahawk missile from the US because of that treat

North Korea says a lot, but does little. She constantly threatens someone. It's just such a strategy of behavior. I'm sure that they will not attack anyone.
And in general there is no threat of a third world war. We live in a civilized world.
Yes, I agree with that.
Could not have been a 3rd world war.
Because there is already a United Nations that keeps the world safe in the agreement of all countries.
If there is a world war 3 the world will doomsday we know itself the danger of nuclear for all people.
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Recently North Korea stated that they are going to attack japan with a missile. As an update yesterday japan is now trying to buy a tomahawk missile from the US because of that treat

North Korea says a lot, but does little. She constantly threatens someone. It's just such a strategy of behavior. I'm sure that they will not attack anyone.
And in general there is no threat of a third world war. We live in a civilized world.
Yes, I agree with that.
Could not have been a 3rd world war.
Because there is already a United Nations that keeps the world safe in the agreement of all countries.
If there is a world war 3 the world will doomsday we know itself the danger of nuclear for all people.

The United Nations is a toothless body, which is incapable of preventing any war on a global scale. The veto power for the super-powers is one of the reasons for its ineffectiveness. I can understand the Veto power for Russia, US and China. But what about the UK and France? They are not even among the top 10 military powers to deserve the veto.

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Recently North Korea stated that they are going to attack japan with a missile. As an update yesterday japan is now trying to buy a tomahawk missile from the US because of that treat

North Korea says a lot, but does little. She constantly threatens someone. It's just such a strategy of behavior. I'm sure that they will not attack anyone.
And in general there is no threat of a third world war. We live in a civilized world.
Yes, I agree with that.
Could not have been a 3rd world war.
Because there is already a United Nations that keeps the world safe in the agreement of all countries.
If there is a world war 3 the world will doomsday we know itself the danger of nuclear for all people.

The United Nations is a toothless body, which is incapable of preventing any war on a global scale. The veto power for the super-powers is one of the reasons for its ineffectiveness. I can understand the Veto power for Russia, US and China. But what about the UK and France? They are not even among the top 10 military powers to deserve the veto.

The great powers that were the victors of World War II—the Soviet Union (now represented by Russia), the United Kingdom, France, Republic of China (now represented by the People's Republic of China), and the United States—serve as the body's five permanent members.

The most contentious issue at Dumbarton and in successive talks proved to be the veto rights of permanent members. The Soviet delegation argued that each nation should have an absolute veto that could block matters from even being discussed, while the British argued that nations should not be able to veto resolutions on disputes to which they were a party. At the Yalta Conference of February 1945, the American, British, and Russian delegations agreed that each of the "Big Five" could veto any action by the council, but not procedural resolutions, meaning that the permanent members could not prevent debate on a resolution.

You could argue though, that United Nations is a place for providing a levelled playing field for various states, not to prevent global war. Nukes are much better detterent in this regard.
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I must confess that I didn't follow the 'regular' news a lot lately so I might be wrong but is it just me or did these tentions between North Korea, Russia, China and USA kind off ended? There are tentions/problems in the Middle East (lol, when isn't there, right?) with the Dubai/Qatar thing but not much news on the bigger (potential WW3) conflict.
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Our politicians of the moron will play to the point that the military will be firing to the right and left with all available weapons. Destroy the earth to hell and we will not be saved. It seems to me that the Third World War is just around the corner and we will see what kind of trouble we will bring ourselves to our home.

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some people say that we are already on it, but i think it would have to do with internet
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You could argue though, that United Nations is a place for providing a levelled playing field for various states, not to prevent global war. Nukes are much better detterent in this regard.

It is turning out just like that. Iraq, Syria and Libya were invaded and none of these nations had nuclear weapons. The Americans don't have the balls to invade Iran and DPRK, because these nations are capable of producing nuclear weapons.

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i think that world war 3 started with the necesity of petroleum of the main countries.
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Albert Einstein once said "I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones".There is no matter who will use nuke weapons or who will "win".There is no winner in a war.We are manipulated by the government and the superiors there is no meaning doing a war.
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Albert Einstein once said "I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones".There is no matter who will use nuke weapons or who will "win".There is no winner in a war.We are manipulated by the government and the superiors there is no meaning doing a war.

During the WW2, the Americans were able to nuke Japan and go scot free because at that point of time Japan didn't had any nukes. But times have changed. Right now, almost a dozen different nations are having nuclear weapons in their possession. If anyone of them attack another nuclear nation, then that would mean the end of life in this planet.

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i think that world war 3 started with the necesity of petroleum of the main countries.

Unlikely, sir. Prices are actually down with fracking, new deposits in arctic by Russia and lifting of iranian embargo.



Because of oversupply and lack of agreements between oil-producing countries members of the OPEC (Saudi Arabia in particular, which pumped at world's records) and also because of lack of coordinated efforts between OPEC and Non-OPEC countries (Russian being a big player, refusing to reduce production) the price of oil fell rapidly in 2015 and continued to slide in 2016 causing the cost of WTI crude to fall to a 10-year low of $26.55 on January 20. The average price of oil in January 2016 was well below $35. Oil did not recover until April 2016, when oil went above the $45 mark.
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i think that world war 3 started with the necesity of petroleum of the main countries.

Unlikely, sir. Prices are actually down with fracking, new deposits in arctic by Russia and lifting of iranian embargo.



Because of oversupply and lack of agreements between oil-producing countries members of the OPEC (Saudi Arabia in particular, which pumped at world's records) and also because of lack of coordinated efforts between OPEC and Non-OPEC countries (Russian being a big player, refusing to reduce production) the price of oil fell rapidly in 2015 and continued to slide in 2016 causing the cost of WTI crude to fall to a 10-year low of $26.55 on January 20. The average price of oil in January 2016 was well below $35. Oil did not recover until April 2016, when oil went above the $45 mark.
Countries have been continuously fighting over territories especially those who have oil deposits. They fight for the ownership of it even though it is very far away from them and won't let other country to take over them. Like, you already have resources in your country to begin with so, why do you still want to take other's territories? Just for the things that you can get from it? And after maximizing the things that you can get from it you will leave them afterwards? World War III is really possible if there are countries that will still be continuously greedy of other country's territories.
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Countries have been continuously fighting over territories especially those who have oil deposits. They fight for the ownership of it even though it is very far away from them and won't let other country to take over them. Like, you already have resources in your country to begin with so, why do you still want to take other's territories? Just for the things that you can get from it? And after maximizing the things that you can get from it you will leave them afterwards? World War III is really possible if there are countries that will still be continuously greedy of other country's territories.

Perhaps it is all about the cost of extraction. In some countries, it cost as less as $2 per barrel to extract crude oil. But in countries such as the United States and Venezuela, the cost can be as high as $60 per barrel.

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Countries have been continuously fighting over territories especially those who have oil deposits. They fight for the ownership of it even though it is very far away from them and won't let other country to take over them. Like, you already have resources in your country to begin with so, why do you still want to take other's territories? Just for the things that you can get from it? And after maximizing the things that you can get from it you will leave them afterwards? World War III is really possible if there are countries that will still be continuously greedy of other country's territories.

Perhaps it is all about the cost of extraction. In some countries, it cost as less as $2 per barrel to extract crude oil. But in countries such as the United States and Venezuela, the cost can be as high as $60 per barrel.
It seems to me that Despite the fact that the reserves of carbohydrates on the planet are decreasing, it really can begin today because of energy resources. Perhaps in order to avoid the 3rd world war because of the energy potential of other countries for which they will fight, it is possible that in order to start mastering other possibilities and alternative sources of energy. Perhaps this is the very chance to save the world and people.

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