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May 03, 2017, 01:34:01 AM
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had just put my money/crypto to another miner last week.
i really want to have one of this DM11G miner too.
i'll try to gather more funds to get one.

btw, the DM11G miner stopped 15min ago.
http://106.120.52.201:7903/static/

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May 03, 2017, 01:35:52 AM
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note posted in both threads:



I read both threads just now. I commented that I may do the escrow on kilo17's thread before I realized this thread was first.
I was away from home Sunday Monday Tuesday attending an Aunt's funeral.

Okay passing no judgement on bittawm or kilo17

Passing no judgement on the builder.

 Just doing  math  I need an answer to one Question


pretend I pay this friday 5th of may 6700 here.

pretend I pay this friday 5th of may 2500 to kilo17 escrow and then 2500 when item ships.

I need to know lead time  from payment this 5th of may to ship time  are we at a lead-time of 60 days July 5th  or 75 days July 20th  what is that promised time. for ship.

note I am posting this in kilo's thread.

Right now I see 2 people I like and have done deals with good deals.
I see 2 people fighting.

all due to a builder that is asking for a lot of  $$$ upfront.

I don't like to see this.

I don't like seeing us played against on another.

So could some one give me promised date for shipping.



I believe ship dates are prior to July 31.  All of the details are in the contract that I would like to send you to look at (PM sent  Wink) - I will post all the details if you accept being the Escrow.  Without you there really is not much reason to proceed because I am not comfortable with anyone else. 
sent an email and will check over contract

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May 03, 2017, 01:42:17 AM
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Replied to email

I appreciate you looking at it.  This kind of commitment requires as many opinions as possible.    

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May 03, 2017, 02:05:56 AM
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2 units for me

Ps: i'm in europe
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May 03, 2017, 02:10:22 AM
Last edit: May 03, 2017, 02:37:12 AM by drsub
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I've sent an e-mail to the manufactory and address the following topics below.
If they respond i will post it here.

Hi
I have been thinking about a proposal for you to make the mining community.
There has been a lot of speculation regarding your product, trust issues with your company and all.
I think the main concern of everyone that wants to buy your product are:

1-) Is the machine really able to do 10ghs?
2-) Who is the manufactory?
3-) Can we see credentials for the factory?
4-) Who is the CEO and what are his credentials?
5-) Why only sell in lots of 100 and require immediate payment?

Here are my suggestions to you

1- I've seen video of the machine working, i would suggest you setup a time and date and do a live feed, where people can ask questions and the machine be fully tested, that would solve trust issues with the product.

2-) I would suggest you put up your company information, certifications and all so people can see you have a real and trusted company.

3-) Allow an audit so we everyone can know from a third-party company that you have capability of producing these machines.

4-) I've seen some linkedin accounts linked to your name, if it's you I think people would know you are a trusted person because you have worked in big companies before.

5-) Looks like all buyers that signed or wanted to sign contract with you, most of them don't have funds to back it up by themselves, you are selling at 4999 and people are trying to sell at 6750 7500 so they have enough funds to pay you. This has caused MAJOR conflict with the community.
I would think would be MUCH MUCH easier if you opened for single orders or at least lower the minimum to 2-5 units and charged a higher price, this way people would be able to purchase directly from you and not having to go thru the hassle of buying from resellers.

I'm sure if you can take care of those 5 topics above, things will go much smooth and everyone will be happy.
You can start production on the machine.
People can buy your product at reasonable price and not having to worry about it.

In the end EVERYONE IS HAPPY!!!

Well, their response was pretty damn quick.
I quote below

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Thank you for your suggestions. We will address all those concerns when it comes that point. We will open our official web sales to address smaller orders, which is only a matter of time. I hope everyone could wait until we are ready. At this age of information transparency, if anyone tries to just reselling with huge profits without any value added service, I think the chance is pretty small.
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May 03, 2017, 02:34:22 AM
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I've sent an e-mail to the manufactory and address the following topics below.
If they respond i will post it here.

Hi
I have been thinking about a proposal for you to make the mining community.
There has been a lot of speculation regarding your product, trust issues with your company and all.
I think the main concern of everyone that wants to buy your product are:

1-) Is the machine really able to do 10ghs?
2-) Who is the manufactory?
3-) Can we see credentials for the factory?
4-) Who is the CEO and what are his credentials?
5-) Why only sell in lots of 100 and require immediate payment?

Here are my suggestions to you

1- I've seen video of the machine working, i would suggest you setup a time and date and do a live feed, where people can ask questions and the machine be fully tested, that would solve trust issues with the product.

2-) I would suggest you put up your company information, certifications and all so people can see you have a real and trusted company.

3-) Allow an audit so we everyone can know from a third-party company that you have capability of producing these machines.

4-) I've seen some linkedin accounts linked to your name, if it's you I think people would know you are a trusted person because you have worked in big companies before.

5-) Looks like all buyers that signed or wanted to sign contract with you, most of them don't have funds to back it up by themselves, you are selling at 4999 and people are trying to sell at 6750 7500 so they have enough funds to pay you. This has caused MAJOR conflict with the community.
I would think would be MUCH MUCH easier if you opened for single orders or at least lower the minimum to 2-5 units and charged a higher price, this way people would be able to purchase directly from you and not having to go thru the hassle of buying from resellers.

I'm sure if you can take care of those 5 topics above, things will go much smooth and everyone will be happy.
You can start production on the machine.
People can buy your product at reasonable price and not having to worry about it.

In the end EVERYONE IS HAPPY!!!

Sorry for the long post..  

I have sent them similar questions Qing Zhu sent back this

"Thank you for your offer. We are busy with our customers at the moment and will close the preorder in a few days. I love to get back to you to address your guy's concern at some point."

and this

"Will do that for you at some point, but not now"

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May 03, 2017, 02:41:04 AM
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Well, their response was pretty damn quick.
I quote below

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Thank you for your suggestions. We will address all those concerns when it comes that point. We will open our official web sales to address smaller orders, which is only a matter of time. I hope everyone could wait until we are ready. At this age of information transparency, if anyone tries to just reselling with huge profits without any value added service, I think the chance is pretty small.
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May 03, 2017, 02:54:35 AM
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Regardless if this one happens, I appreciate the way this group buy is handled.  Thank you Kilo for running a transparent and professional process.

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May 03, 2017, 03:27:36 AM
Last edit: May 04, 2017, 12:19:31 AM by mprep
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Regardless if this one happens, I appreciate the way this group buy is handled.  Thank you Kilo for running a transparent and professional process.



Thank you.  I hope it goes though.  Wink



Qing is a very nice guy and has been helpful with every question we have had for him.  If we get to the magic number I will get all questions answered. 

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May 03, 2017, 03:34:27 AM
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You can count me in for +1
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May 03, 2017, 03:36:56 AM
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I am waiting to see about Escrow.  I will update (or the Escrow will update) the list once we have that resolved.

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May 03, 2017, 03:55:18 AM
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possibly 1 ,

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May 03, 2017, 05:03:27 AM
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1 may be 2 after escrow.



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May 03, 2017, 05:15:59 AM
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Asked the question dualminer.com

Good afternoon! The Internet has information about Ibelink DM11G, will ASIC Miner actually be sold?

Staff (Andy)
5/2/2017 7:40:44 PM showed a new miner - iBeLink DM11G with 10.8GH / s. As you probably have seen from a video on Youtube, Bitbaza (one of our customer from Russia) showed a new miner. We hereby confirm that it is our latest 28nm X11 Miner. The technical specification is listed below:
? Hash Function: X11
? Hash Rate: 10.8 GH / s ± 5%
? Power Consumption: 750 W (at the wall, with 25 ° C ambient temp)
? Power Efficiency: 0.07 J / MH (at the wall, with 25 ° C ambient temp)
? Number of TNB0303 chips per unit: 64
? Operating Temperature: 0 ° C to 40 ° C
? Network Connection: Ethernet
? Power Supply: 110V to 240V, 50Hz / 60Hz
? Certifications: FCC, CE
? Dimensions: 490mm (L) * 350mm (W) * 180mm (H)
? Weight: 21kg (with packing boxes)

At this moment, this product is only going through the preorder for customers with more than 100 units.
We will announce that it is open for general international sales.

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May 03, 2017, 06:57:12 AM
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I'm in for 1 unit

Thanks
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May 03, 2017, 07:08:33 AM
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I'm in for 1 unit

Thanks

Will do  Wink

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May 03, 2017, 07:24:23 AM
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All clarification: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1898909.new#new

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May 03, 2017, 07:38:13 AM
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1 unit for me


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May 03, 2017, 08:09:23 AM
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NO - that is simply more lies and deception - here is the UNMODERATED VERSION:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1898943.0
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May 03, 2017, 02:36:14 PM
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Will be reading the unmoderated version

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