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May 04, 2017, 07:47:02 PM
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Hello there everyone. So i follow poloniex chat (that's where i've started) and lots of forums about crypto since january 2017. My friend reccomended me to invest in ETH in january, but i didnt listen, just decided to look at all this fuzz with cryptocurrencies. Now i have invested a little, really not so much, so you could say i am a pumper-dumper-troll. Here are just some of my thoughts on crypto and ill start with:

- BITCOIN:
Plusses to invest:
1) Even some homeless guy in siberia heard smth about it.
2) Summer is coming and it is all started with buying drugs on darknet. Most of sellers still use BTC to sell drugs. LALAlife is near, everybody wants to buy some maryjane and what they see: "HEY! I've bought some bitcoins last summer for 1000, wtf is the price now? 1500? Is this crypto still growing? Maybe i stop smoking and try to understand all this thing about bitcoin or whatever, maybe even invest now, maybe it is not to late?". So this guys start looking for some info. Maybe 1/10 buys some for investment = price continue to grow!
3) It was first and it is first in CCMC with $25 800 000 000
Why i dont invest in bitcoin:
1) Blockchain>bitcoin. And there are more interesting projects for me, if we look in future (at least ~1-2 years). By projects i mean ideas, technology, philosophy.
2) I see only 1-3 (max, really 3 is MAXimum!!!) live cryptos in future. Why? Read about plusses of all blockchain technology, most of all it will be usefull for FinTech, banks, insurance.  So as i see bitcoin now, it is not fast (speed of transactions), it is not private (that is main plus for many people, that is how it all have started, PRIVACY!), 80% of it is almost mined and price still ~1500, something wrong there?

When you start searching info bout crypto, second thing you see is:

- LITECOIN:
As for me, i think this coin is really a bullshit, full zero, big baloon. HEY, i am not trolling, really, just look:
The main difference from BTC is speed of transaction. Even not much faster!!!
You all, just think, why is it so popular? Because some stupid football hot-dog eaters dont want to hold 0,XXXX BTC on their wallet, they want f*ing large check, round ammount, you know. They want X000 on their wallet. That's how i thought at start, when looked at the price of BTC, i thought "Hey, it is so expensive, maybe i better buy some LTC and it will grow to the price of BTC one day". But why? Why should it grow?
Circulating supply - 51 000 000
CCMC - 1 250 000 000
WHAT? It is up to you, as for me, i think there is nothing behind this shitcoin, no innovative technology, no new ideas, it just lives thx to some yobbos, dorks whatever. IMHO jeezz.

I continue with the crypto, that is known mostly by its creator - squarehead Vitalik:

+ ETHEREUM:
New tech, new idea, new philosophy, all brand new blockchain box from real genious. I am pumping, just listen:
1) It is not only a currency, it is a core, it is a new idea. You can build your own tokens on ETH. I am not pro, you know. I cant be pro in background of technology reading only pump-shit all over the internet. But as much as i have read, i understand (you simple user understand), that ethereum can be real future of money, applications, banking system, whatever. Moreover there is a great team behind it.
Yeah, i've seen this news about hacking DAO, or what happened there, i dont really get. I Dont Care, really, i see that they are alive, they are solving problems, this team is working, it gets big investments, it is already well known among those who heard smth bout bitcoin. THE PRICE IS GOING UP!!!
I see only 1 minus of ETH. Circulating supply is almost 100 000 000? Wow, that is to much guys already, dunno what will be on PoS, but you should really think bout limiting it.

As for me, even before litecoin, in 2017 i saw some news about...

+ Zcash
One of ma favourite coin.
Lets just imagine all governments, most legal platforms deny blockchains/cryptos, because of "something". Lets imagine it is all forbidden and highly controlled. Lets imagine blockchain didnt find any use in real life.
Then what? Where and when can i use cryptocurrency? Oh wait, as we all know it is all started, when you try to sell/buy drugs on TOR. So we go back to bitcoin or...
Imagine yourself selling cocaine or you are really the bad guy selling heroine. So you are looking for the best ways to get money on your wallet and you find out, that bitcoin is not anonymous and secure at all. I dig it deep, i saw bitcoin going to upgrade itself by implementing smth, that will make it more anonymous, BUT, you'll read there, that at the same time it will be more difficult transactions, more times spend on sending/receiving.
So this bad guys have some choice here: Monero/Dash/Cloak/Zcash.
Monero - not fully anonymous - that is what you read on wiki. It is enough for me. I already dont like it, sorry monero, go to wiki and clear this info every day.
Dash - preissue problems. Thats all negativity, cant say more about it. But i still prefer ZEC, because it is NEW. It is like Xbox360 vs PS2020
Cloak - info? trading volume? where are you cloak, what are you, are you invisible? Ok then, forget this...Marketing and being well known, easy to find info is a big thing in crypto now.
Zcash - sounds good, like a sound of a coin falling on the floor. I like logo. Latest tech in cryptography. I like their team, they all look like nerds, like 4-eyes pr0s in cryptography. I saw some movies about cryptography, it is a f*ing genious business. Great team, great idea.
Oh, they take 20% of mined ZECs to themselves what a pitty. They say, that this money goes on developing their child. As i told you, Zcash was second coin i saw on the internet in 2017, searching for some info. Means this guys REALLY invest money on developing/marketing. Idc if 1 of this bigheads buys lambo on ur mined coins. I just hope, he wont crash with go-go girl under cocaine and he will be in a good mood at monday to work on privacy, defence of Zcash.
21 000 000 to be issued (same as bitcoin). This looks like same BTC, but a lot more private. Even if i buy pomidoros and potatos on internet with crypto, i want to stay anonymous. It is really viable for me. Isnt for you?

This is a bit easy and i go to next alts, first to like was:

+ Ripple
Banking, banks, bank of england, bank of n-country, y-country bought ripple. Really, thats what info you face with ripple. It was enough for me with seeing it in top 3 CCMC. Good idea with preissue, with not mining it, with this fees on transactions, fast transactions. They say about themselves like a bridge among fiats. I hope someday they become an easy bridge crypto-crypto, crypro-fiats.
I hope (bought myself 5000 XRP) it will go for 1$ one day.

And I'll end with:

"+ AUGUR vs - GNOSIS"
Looks like same thing, same idea, even 1 face of Vitalya in advisors of both projects. My opinion the price of gnosis is highly pumped.
P.S. Vitalik stop giving advices, go better hack pentagon, facebook, un, nato, putin with your ETHworm.

Aaaand:

+-Lisk
I like it is fully written on JS, but it looks like nobody of the team cares about their project, you start searching and see empty topics, forums, low info, almost 0 marketing. Though i think it is a great idea - crypto fully on JS. It can work faster with lisk by inventing super-puper-mega-app. It will be just much more easy for a common user.

I have some ideas on NXT (ardor) and NEM, but i didnt dig deep, would like to see your ideas on this 2 cryptos.

Sorry, my english is not perfect, but i hope you understand everything.

If you already hate me, then looking forward for your replies.

If this somehow was usefull for you, say thx by Wink :
BTC - 185tjdyyh2XAc7oG421ckJGhMedRuhbNvv
ZEC - t1WYcAoPF7aQNbnnh49RjnQsNLc7qvqJw27
ETH - 0xaaf4f18d4b79047294b2ca6477784cdd449fdf5e
XRP - rno1vZayGvkHFdkTQFSb5VH3egdohyCu11
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Litecoin will have the anonymous capabilities of zcrash, smart contract capabilities of ethereum and fast speed of pivx, in the future and so will btc.  When Bitcoin and Litecoin both have these capabilities due to softfork updates, they will provide a longer term mutually beneficial scaling prospect for the future. Eventually litecoin will be 10-25% of bitcoins price. The fomo wont end here at a measly 0.015 bitcoin per litecoin. Will moon together with bitcoin.
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Please, any proofs, links? I've searched it before and after your mssg, cant find any info, specially bout privacy.
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i am afraid Summer time is not going to be good this time. maybe i am wrong but when altcoins started rallying a while back that means by the summer they already will have had (?) a couple of months of pumping and all the pumpers have exhausted their supplies.
we may see a massacre by that time of constant dumping.

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Please, any proofs, links? I've searched it before and after your mssg, cant find any info, specially bout privacy.

it is called "Confidential Transaction" if you google that term with litecoin keyword you will find better results:
https://www.reddit.com/r/litecoin/comments/53c0v6/confidential_transaction_for_litecoin/
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1625340.0
not sure how far along this is though.

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May 05, 2017, 03:04:12 PM
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I suspect there will be a reversal in the fortunes of alts soon. Bitcoin's dominance has dropped from over 80% to less than 60% now.
While not all alts will fall by the wayside, I am sure that Bitcoin will reassert itself.


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May 05, 2017, 03:14:44 PM
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Monero - not fully anonymous - that is what you read on wiki. It is enough for me. I already dont like it, sorry monero, go to wiki and clear this info every day.


LOL

Nothing is anonymous if you dont care about your anonymity.   Monero is right now most anonymous coin of all Crypto currencies. By far. 

Anonymity is not just important because of anonymity itself but because it makes coin fungible.
   

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May 05, 2017, 03:26:48 PM
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You need to do more research some of your points are incorrect and you haven't even touched distribution or network effect. Come back after you read more.

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not sure how far along this is though.
Thx. But yes. I am talking about 1 year investment now. And Litecoin seems like they not gonna "boom". They go slow, bringing nothing new to crypto.

Monero - not fully anonymous - that is what you read on wiki. It is enough for me. I already dont like it, sorry monero, go to wiki and clear this info every day.


LOL

Nothing is anonymous if you dont care about your anonymity.   Monero is right now most anonymous coin of all Crypto currencies. By far. 

Anonymity is not just important because of anonymity itself but because it makes coin fungible.
   

Hey, wtf. I was talking EXACTLY about privacy of crypto-technology. And dont lie, monero is not so secure as you say. Read some monero forums, even there, they were talking, that world needs smth like Zcash technology.

you haven't even touched distribution or network effect. Come back after you read more.

Ha-ha. You didnt follow me) Friend told me bout ETH couple mnth ago, before it went x5, i ve started to dig and i wrote what i found. BTW, i asked couple of my friends about crypto. After a week we met and they have found almost the same. Everybody talk about ETH, Zcash, Litecoin. Less go deeper to low ccmc. But i am talking about network effect. You start reading crypto - first you want to buy is litecoin and maybe eth. Maybe there are more news in Russia about Zcash, dunno.

I want to know, anyone, who is in crypto about couple of mnths, what did you buy?
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Zcash is currently way less anonymous compared to Monero because nearly all transactions are public and nobody actually uses their anonymity feature. That means that their anonymity set is just too small to provide privacy.

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So... you are suggesting zcrash is more anonymous than monero?
LOL good luck.
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Monero is the true anonymous coin, and one of the probably 5 or so coins that will be left in the future when cryptocurrencies blow up all over.

You're so wrong with the Zscam shit
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not sure how far along this is though.
Thx. But yes. I am talking about 1 year investment now. And Litecoin seems like they not gonna "boom". They go slow, bringing nothing new to crypto.

Monero - not fully anonymous - that is what you read on wiki. It is enough for me. I already dont like it, sorry monero, go to wiki and clear this info every day.


LOL

Nothing is anonymous if you dont care about your anonymity.   Monero is right now most anonymous coin of all Crypto currencies. By far. 

Anonymity is not just important because of anonymity itself but because it makes coin fungible.
   

Hey, wtf. I was talking EXACTLY about privacy of crypto-technology. And dont lie, monero is not so secure as you say. Read some monero forums, even there, they were talking, that world needs smth like Zcash technology.


I am totally aware what Monero is and how anonymous it is.  Monero is now way most anonymous crypto currency in existence. Half year ago was more anonymous than 99.9999%  Now with Ring-CT is by far most.   After next autumn fork it will be even more. And with Kovri you will not need to use TOR anymore.

Anonimity depends of user if he does not care about it his transactions will get revealed sooner or latter no matter how much options Monero gives him.  There is not 100% anonymity in Crypto and will never be. But I guess that is more philosophical theme.  But my statement stand and you will not find any serious cryptographer to disagree with me. Monero is now way most anonymous crypto currency in existence.

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May 19, 2017, 01:46:45 PM
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1 month after my investment, and i was totaly right about ripple. ETH and ZEC on a ride too today. Well, bitcoin skyrockets too, that was my mistake. Still think litecoin and monero going to go down soon or at least they will just not move anywhere, dont think that is good for someone.

1) 1 june coming with australian news, think BTC going to grow more.
2) Ripple with its distribution's lock will go 1$ imho, and i think 1$ is cheap
People say buying XRP is more like buying assets of ripple company, not buying coins. Then think about it, look at coinmarketcap and imagine what a price of 1 asset should be of such company with total 55kkk assets this 4 years at least.
3) Evryday i sit in Zcash chat and look what people say, ask some questions too, i think Zcash is a long term investment. Most of all coins atm i believe in Zcash actually. But i dont expect price boom in the next 3-6 months
4) Any of you guys know when ETh goes PoS?
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XRP, ETH and STEEM will shine this summer.
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https://xrpcharts.ripple.com/#/accounts - have just found this...
Damn it is bad, tell me it is not... (coz i bought a lot at 0,3$)
Only ~350 000 accounts created in ripple network? WHAAAAT? With this market cap?
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Can anyone tell the difference between Augur and Gnosis? Why totally the same thing has such a big difference in price? Huh
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https://xrpcharts.ripple.com/#/accounts - have just found this...
Damn it is bad, tell me it is not... (coz i bought a lot at 0,3$)
Only ~350 000 accounts created in ripple network? WHAAAAT? With this market cap?

that tells you how much hot air is in this thing and how far it can fall.

but even so 350,000 is a very good number for any alt, even though most of those must be duplicate accounts from the same people.

and underestimating bitcoin could prove to be an expensive mistake. this entire alt bubble was sparked by the etf not going through and if there was no scaling problem no alt would be where it is today. that tells you how influential it still is and what might happen if its issues were solved.

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Well, i was right now in 4 positions that skyrocketed. I doubled my investment in 1 month, but i made a mistake to reinvest some in ripple. Dunno what is happening there, with this arbitrage thing. Korea and Japan buying at 0,4, eu and us selling 0,3. That shit isnt normal and is not positive for future of this coin. Looks like a gambling toy in the hands of big guys...
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Well, i was right now in 4 positions that skyrocketed. I doubled my investment in 1 month, but i made a mistake to reinvest some in ripple. Dunno what is happening there, with this arbitrage thing. Korea and Japan buying at 0,4, eu and us selling 0,3. That shit isnt normal and is not positive for future of this coin. Looks like a gambling toy in the hands of big guys...

What about XEM, do you have any thoughts on that coin? I think some coins now are retracing, but I don't have any proofs of that aside from trying to read the charts. What other coins have you invested on?

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Well, i was right now in 4 positions that skyrocketed. I doubled my investment in 1 month, but i made a mistake to reinvest some in ripple. Dunno what is happening there, with this arbitrage thing. Korea and Japan buying at 0,4, eu and us selling 0,3. That shit isnt normal and is not positive for future of this coin. Looks like a gambling toy in the hands of big guys...

What about XEM, do you have any thoughts on that coin? I think some coins now are retracing, but I don't have any proofs of that aside from trying to read the charts. What other coins have you invested on?

I have read about NEM, that it is popular in Asia. As of it's feature - it has POI alghorithm that is kinda different from other's top coins. I wanted to buy it, but didnt have enough money to invest. As for now, i dont think it is time to buy ANY coin. Only if you buy really longterm, still my advice would be to buy Zcash and ETH. Nem looks like a good quality product. But first i try to choose coins, that bring new features. Nem has total 9kkk supply, and same in circulation, that is much less then ripple. Written on Java and JavaScript, but i would choose full JS - Lisk. Javascript easy to understand = bigger potential to grow faster. Nem needs a big client. But in common it looks like a stable good quality tech.
What i do now - i do same like you - read charts. I had Monero, Litecoin, REP, sold them with plus and dont know how to invest now. Dont want to buy anything of this again. Lazy coins. I would leave REP, but i sold it at a good price.
Oh, also i have big investment in NXT. In Q3 they will make a snapshot of NXT accounts and share IGNIS (token of child chain in ARDOR network). Thinking of buying more NXT on free money, but i dont like holding everything in 1 basket.
What would i do if i had for example 10 000$, that i am not scared to loose, i would buy zec and eth 50/50 and forgot about this investment for 2-3 years.
If we talk about this summer, and if you want to buy now, maybe Siacoin and Round is your choice...(maybe lisk?) Dunno, i feel like this 2 gonna rise and scyrocket more!
I really hope Ripple is not a big scam, cant believe banks would cooperate with such companies. If not this latest non understandable shit with arbitrage and big selling loads, i would still invest in ripple.
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