forming collaborative sig campaign group for less-active members with HQ posts

[altcoinhosting]

I'm searching for longtime members that are in the same situation as myself (only a couple hq posts/month, but a backlog of hundres of historic posts) to pool together our signature spaces, avatars, personal texts and websites in order to auction them off to the highest bidder on a monthly/bimonthly/trimester/semester/yearly basis.

I'm searching for members that fit following criteria

• currently not using their sigspot + avatar + personal text + website link (or willing to remove any content that is currently published in these spots), but willing to place an ad in this spot in return for some pocket change
• at least 500 historic posts
• no -ve from DT (up to level 4), unless it's for BS reasons.
• no -ve from DT (up to level 2), unless it's -ve from an inactive DT member AND the accusation has since been solved (but -ve was not removed because DT member is inactive)
• Sr., Hero or legendary members only
• applicant should have reasonable quality posts... Their english should be readable, their posts should be sufficiently long (not going to put an exact number here), no posts that are obviously sig spamming, posts should be spread out over all subforums

Payment: I would propose to auction off our signature spaces as a group, each group member gets a cut of the profits equal to his total postcount (for example: we have a combined postcount of 10.000, member x has 1000 historic posts, we get 0.05 BTC/month, member x made 1/10th of the total postcount so he gets 0.005BTC minus the fees)

In order to apply, either reply on this thread or send me a PM.
I'm currently searching for team members, we're not auctioning off our sigspaces right now!!!
Even if you apply, I can not guarantee i'll find sufficient members to form a sig campaign group... Even if i find enough members, i cannot guarantee we'll find a sponsor... Even if we find a sponsor, i cannot guarantee we'll be payed enough for this to actually be worth our effort...

This is just a first step to see if anybody is interested!

[altcoinhosting]

Additional info:

Extra rules i would propose:

• If a team member removes their sig, avatar, personal text or website link during the campaign, his part of the income will be refunded to the advertiser
• If a team member removes old posts and has an end postcount significantly lower as their begin postcount, his part of the income will be refunded to the advertiser
• If a team member receives valid -ve from anybody from DT (up to level 4), he will be payed for current month, but he will be removed from the team when the month is over
• If a team member starts making low quality posts, he will be payed for current month, but he will be removed from the team when the month is over
• The total postscounts and each member's cut will be calculated at the beginning of a new campaign. It does not matter how many new posts a member makes during the campaign, his cut of the profit is agreed at the beginning of the campaign
• Campaign funds will be helt either by myself, or by an other team member that has way higher trust than me (and can prove he/she is not using a sold account by signing a message with an old, staked address). In case the campaign would ever be auctioned off for more than 0.25BTC/month, we might have to look for an external, trusted, escrow.
• Payouts will happen the day after a campaign ends.

In order to be clear from the beginning, the auction rules would be something like this (can be changed if other's feel different about this):

• We (list of group members) auction off our collective signature space, avatar, personal text and link to our website
• The bidder will receive his advertisement on at least x historic posts, but should understand only little new posts will be made each month (maybe put an average number of new posts/month combined here)
• we do not accept illegal or "risky" advertisements. This includes ponzi's, ico's, rom's, services that have active scam accusations, porn,... We deserve the right to decline any ad.
• if the service we advertise gets an active scam accusation while the ad is running, we reserve the right to remove the advertisement from our profiles and, depending on a case by case scenario, we can keep the funds, do a partly refund, or we can use the funds to repay victims of said scamming service.
• the signature add should fit in a Sr. member's sigspace, the avatar can not be offensive, the personal text has to talk about your business and the link to the website's title clearly has to mention that it's not our website, but merely an advertisement. We reserve the right to use a small portion of our sigspot to advertise this thread (in case we have trouble finding advertisements).

[altcoinhosting]

List of potentially interested members:

*Username	* userid	* historic postcount	* Level
*Altcoinhosting	* 513122	* 1539	*Hero
*SmartIphone	* 374823	* 1722	*Hero
*Merelcoin	* 548794	* 671	*Hero
*BAGOBO	* 376175	* 748	*Hero
*---	* ---	* ---	* ---
*---	* ---	* Total: 4680	* ---

[Lauda]

Is this an attempted, and first, competitor to ACE - AD Campaign Experts?
 

Even if you apply, I can not guarantee i'll find sufficient members to form a sig campaign group... Even if i find enough members, i cannot guarantee we'll find a sponsor... Even if we find a sponsor, i cannot guarantee we'll be payed enough for this to actually be worth our effort...

This is going to be the hardest part in all of this. Unfortunately, with the forum being riddled with spam and random people, businesses are often settling for the cheaper option, not the better one (i.e. quantity over quality). I do wish you luck if you manage to assemble a decent team.
Note: You've made a newbie mistake by not making this thread self-moderated.

[altcoinhosting]

Is this an attempted, and first, competitor to ACE - AD Campaign Experts?
 

Even if you apply, I can not guarantee i'll find sufficient members to form a sig campaign group... Even if i find enough members, i cannot guarantee we'll find a sponsor... Even if we find a sponsor, i cannot guarantee we'll be payed enough for this to actually be worth our effort...

This is going to be the hardest part in all of this. Unfortunately, with the forum being riddled with spam and random people, businesses are often settling for the cheaper option, not the better one (i.e. quantity over quality). I do wish you luck if you manage to assemble a decent team.
Note: You've made a newbie mistake by not making this thread self-moderated.

Thanks
I just realised my newbie mistake, but if this thread gets overrun, i can always close it and open a new, self-moderated one.

As for being the first competitor of ACE, i think i'm aiming at a different audience, namely longtime posters that are mostly inactive/lurkers nowadays, but still have a huge amount of reasonable quality historic posts (like myself). I don't expect high payouts, but i tought to myself: why not try to make some pocket change by renting out our sigspots.

[Wapinter]

Does it mean a member of your group would not be required to post a minimum numbers of posts in any given period but will be paid on the basis of his posts history?

[altcoinhosting]

Does it mean a member of your group would not be required to post a minimum numbers of posts in any given period but will be paid on the basis of his posts history?

That is correct, however, if the group member makes a substantial amount of posts, they do count as historic posts during the next month (if we chose to auction off our sigspace on a monthly basis).
I chose this format because:
1) in my opinion, it would take away most of the motivation for group members to start spamming, since extra posts would only account for a very small increase in pay (and their pay would only increase after a month)
2) because i myself am mostly inactive/lurking, and there aren't a lot of campaigns that would not accept me because of this. At the same time, i do think my 1500+ posts do have some value, since 1500+ posts means 1500+ backlinks (SEO) and it does means that a lot of quality search engine traffic should pass my signature on a daily basis.


The reasoning behind point 2 is simple: if you force somebody to make new posts every day, their sigad will be pushed to the front page of bitcointalk all the time, and it will be seen by loads of bitcointalk members. If you don't force somebody to make new posts, his signature will be seen by people that actually took the time to search for a post where the member posted in. This means that i expect older posts to have a higher amount of targetted search engine visitors...

[btvGainer]

Does it mean a member of your group would not be required to post a minimum numbers of posts in any given period but will be paid on the basis of his posts history?

That is correct, however, if the group member makes a substantial amount of posts, they do count as historic posts during the next month (if we chose to auction off our sigspace on a monthly basis).
I chose this format because:
1) in my opinion, it would take away most of the motivation for group members to start spamming, since extra posts would only account for a very small increase in pay (and their pay would only increase after a month)
2) because i myself am mostly inactive/lurking, and there aren't a lot of campaigns that would not accept me because of this. At the same time, i do think my 1500+ posts do have some value, since 1500+ posts means 1500+ backlinks (SEO) and it does means that a lot of quality search engine traffic should pass my signature on a daily basis.


The reasoning behind point 2 is simple: if you force somebody to make new posts every day, their sigad will be pushed to the front page of bitcointalk all the time, and it will be seen by loads of bitcointalk members. If you don't force somebody to make new posts, his signature will be seen by people that actually took the time to search for a post where the member posted in. This means that i expect older posts to have a higher amount of targetted search engine visitors...

This is a very good idea.I think there should be some ratio of  thread created and posts for any member to be accepted in a group.
What I mean is 500 quality posts plus atleast 10 or 5 Thread created (active threads).
This will reduce the number of eligible participants significantly and even advertisers would find it attractive usually the op of a thread gets most exposure.

[altcoinhosting]

Does it mean a member of your group would not be required to post a minimum numbers of posts in any given period but will be paid on the basis of his posts history?

That is correct, however, if the group member makes a substantial amount of posts, they do count as historic posts during the next month (if we chose to auction off our sigspace on a monthly basis).
I chose this format because:
1) in my opinion, it would take away most of the motivation for group members to start spamming, since extra posts would only account for a very small increase in pay (and their pay would only increase after a month)
2) because i myself am mostly inactive/lurking, and there aren't a lot of campaigns that would not accept me because of this. At the same time, i do think my 1500+ posts do have some value, since 1500+ posts means 1500+ backlinks (SEO) and it does means that a lot of quality search engine traffic should pass my signature on a daily basis.


The reasoning behind point 2 is simple: if you force somebody to make new posts every day, their sigad will be pushed to the front page of bitcointalk all the time, and it will be seen by loads of bitcointalk members. If you don't force somebody to make new posts, his signature will be seen by people that actually took the time to search for a post where the member posted in. This means that i expect older posts to have a higher amount of targetted search engine visitors...

This is a very good idea.I think there should be some ratio of  thread created and posts for any member to be accepted in a group.
What I mean is 500 quality posts plus atleast 10 or 5 Thread created (active threads).
This will reduce the number of eligible participants significantly and even advertisers would find it attractive usually the op of a thread gets most exposure.

At this moment, i'm struggling to find people that are potentially interested, which is normal since i'm aiming at recruiting less-active members, so i cannot expect them to stumble upon this thread straight away

But you are completely right, it would be a good idear to only accept people that did create at least a certain amount of active threads in the past. As soon as i have at least a couple more interested members, i might add this requirement for new applicants.

Thanks for the feedback

[Lontongmie]

There is one huge flaw in your plan. You are looking for "lurkers", but those who fit your criteria are not likely to take the time to address this correct? They probably have tons of BTC from the early days.

[digaran]

Why doing this? instead start a new coin and force your self as a developer on the community by taking your 10 years in the future salary like ETH dev did like pretty much every single dev team is doing right now.
The effort it takes to pull this task is beyond your limits.
People often forget why signatures exist, in order for you to get more people to see your ad in a sig space you'll need to occupy a large percentage of all sig spaces in the forum.

Also people will have to need what you are offering in your signature, you can't for example sell ice cream with free delivery just in a small city and advertise in this forum hoping to get many buyers.

Most of the services are ICO or somehow related to altcoins, hell 90% of this forum has turned into altcoins announcement threads.

How does one measures the quality of a post? are you gonna spend time to check their quality and if so then who will decide how much a post worth?
Aren't you a bit late to the party as steemit and other failed projects doing this already?

You think if I write Nobel worthy essay in this forum company which I'm wearing their signature is going to pay me a fat prize? NO.

You think you can compete with the cheap work force of China?

Then definitely you will be able to compete here as well lol.

People will pay the lowest as long as it gets the job done no body gives a fack about a few members post quality.

Get real.

[altcoinhosting]

There is one huge flaw in your plan. You are looking for "lurkers", but those who fit your criteria are not likely to take the time to address this correct? They probably have tons of BTC from the early days.

Yeah, figured that out to But hey, if you don't try, you'll never know

@digaran: you're entitled to your opinion... I'm pretty sure this service is nothing for you, since the pay probably won't compare to bitmixer.io signature payments, however i disagree with you on several points:

• I see a campaign like this as an honest way to make some pocket change, publicly saying that i should create a get-rich quick clone coin does not compare to running a group like this
• I don't think this task is beyond my limit... However, it might be impossible to find the right group of people, so the group might never be formed in the end
• In my opinion, a signature space exists to put in a personal signature. But if you don't have anything to put in your signature spot, like i do, i think you can rent it out. In my opinion, the value of a sig ad does not deteriorate if the group of posters gets smaller
• I never claimed wanting to attract local businesses
• Yes, i think i am capable of more or less judging which posters i'd like in my group and which posters i don't like... It is not determined by a single essay, but rather by the sum of all posts, feedback,...
• I know i can't compete with the cheap workforce of china, but what does that have to do with any of this?
• I also strongly disagree with the statement that nobody cares about the post quality. I stopped running a business on this forum a long time ago, but if i had a business, i'd rather have 10 people that write on-topic posts in proper english and have the respect of the community promoting my business compared to hiring 200 spammers that can barely string toghether 5 english words and make barely ontopic posts

But like i said, i'm not here to argue with you, you can have your opinion, as i can have mine...

[Jherek]

I like the idea however it will be hard for you to find someone that will take your offer. ACE works because they have highly trusted community members in their lineup, and bitcointalk staff like Lauda themselves. But this doesn't seem to be the case here.

Also, Coinroll sig campaign is currently the only sig campaign accepting posts to be counted that are made beforehand($0.0005 per post off your total post count), so if you can find a way to get these accounts that sign up enrolled into the coinroll campaign it migth as well be a good idea for stable income.

Maybe place ref links? Idk but that's the only other option i can think of atm.

[altcoinhosting]

I like the idea however it will be hard for you to find someone that will take your offer. ACE works because they have highly trusted community members in their lineup, and bitcointalk staff like Lauda themselves. But this doesn't seem to be the case here.

Also, Coinroll sig campaign is currently the only sig campaign accepting posts to be counted that are made beforehand($0.0005 per post off your total post count), so if you can find a way to get these accounts that sign up enrolled into the coinroll campaign it migth as well be a good idea for stable income.

Maybe place ref links? Idk but that's the only other option i can think of atm.

The problem with coinroll is that it seems like namworld's campaign is pretty full, he only accepts legendary users nowadays

[btvGainer]

I like the idea however it will be hard for you to find someone that will take your offer. ACE works because they have highly trusted community members in their lineup, and bitcointalk staff like Lauda themselves. But this doesn't seem to be the case here.

Also, Coinroll sig campaign is currently the only sig campaign accepting posts to be counted that are made beforehand($0.0005 per post off your total post count), so if you can find a way to get these accounts that sign up enrolled into the coinroll campaign it migth as well be a good idea for stable income.

Maybe place ref links? Idk but that's the only other option i can think of atm.

Torcoin campaign is also paying bonus on the basic of total post count.You can check there signature thread for details and contact campaign manager.

[altcoinhosting]

I like the idea however it will be hard for you to find someone that will take your offer. ACE works because they have highly trusted community members in their lineup, and bitcointalk staff like Lauda themselves. But this doesn't seem to be the case here.

Also, Coinroll sig campaign is currently the only sig campaign accepting posts to be counted that are made beforehand($0.0005 per post off your total post count), so if you can find a way to get these accounts that sign up enrolled into the coinroll campaign it migth as well be a good idea for stable income.

Maybe place ref links? Idk but that's the only other option i can think of atm.

Torcoin campaign is also paying bonus on the basic of total post count.You can check there signature thread for details and contact campaign manager.

Thanks for the tip... At the moment, i'm looking for more interested community members, in a second stage i might start contacting campaign managers, like Torcoin to see if they're interested in the group's total potential.

[cafucafucafu]

unfortunately it is quite rare for campaigns to pay you for existing posts but hopefully you can find some deals where they do pay you something worthwhile for your existing posts. i really like the idea of auctioning off the whole block of user's signature space for a campaign though, i guess if a small business wanted just some attention to their company but wasnt ready to pay $2000 a week for it, then they can use your service.

I suggest you look for high trust members to join as they generate the most attention to their posts even if they only post once or twice a week, and the advertisers would want this. Just my opinion though, you can do w/e you want with this. Good luck!

[altcoinhosting]

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