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May 07, 2017, 08:23:43 AM
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Still have a red trust just because this user thought i have some alts, but here were no proofs.
Wrong. Stop trying to twist the story. You were neg. rated for abusing Bitmixer and subsequently for threatening me both privately and publicly. It has nothing to do with alts.

Maybe my last night attitude wasn't the best but I desearve to find any proof that are agaisnt me.
Proof has been posted in this thread and you've admitted to doing it anyways.

for real ur idiot but nvm, life sucks i know.
There you have it, actmyname. This guy is learning to be the next Satoshi by spamming Games & Rounds. Roll Eyes

Until you get some proper manner and sense, we have nothing to talk about. I'm removing this thread from my watch list.

Cheerio,
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You became idiot over night or this is the way you were borned this way?. First neg trust I got for having alts. You blocked me on PM, just because you want. Yes I threatened and it is not fair? Why it isn't fair?

Now you wanna play it cool just leaving this out of your watchlist?

Can you explain again what I got a red trust? I still don't see the reason.

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Like a personal recap. I got a red trust because you thought that I post the same way as some other guys: Here is the list just from last week (OP is slightly better than this list): kikeda, Format.C^, loges, yueno. I don't know why, but I have noticed a pattern which I'm not going to publicly elaborate as I may lose my advantage in combating it. There seems to be an influx of one-liner/short-posting & post-bursting in an attempt to get 1 maximum payout from Bitmixer before the account is permanently blacklisted and/or neg. rated.

After that when you figure out you're wrong you took out the card with I threatened you. And after all of this you're saying that I abused bitmixer campaign. With what I abused actually? Making 13 posts in one hour and 40 minutes.

Amazing.

VINSIN: the give away abuser and spammer.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135402.msg1875294#msg1875294
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=201753.msg2143635#msg2143635
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=200539.msg2143644#msg2143644
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=204365.msg2143693#msg2143693
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=182194.msg2143698#msg2143698
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=191460.msg2143729#msg2143729

For sure 13 posts in almost 2 hours are a lot, but what about 6 in 10 minutes or whatever?
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May 07, 2017, 01:57:29 PM
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Oh great. Almost 5 am, i write wrong a letter.

Actually your reply is off-topic.

What spam I did? Roll Eyes

So you're in GMT+5, [or +4 if you consider 40 mins almost the next hour] huh? (not Arizona, US as your profile indicates)

Also, holy shit that's a lot of Games & Rounds posts. Let it be known that of your 575 posts, 534 of them lie in the Games & Rounds section and at the start of your posting career you consecutively posted in the section, spanning many pages. Only 7% of your posts are outside of Games & Rounds. Let that sink in for a moment.



Since trust is unmoderated and merely just a system to see who trusts whom, I could give you negative feedback indicating that I find you a spammer and a very unseemly individual. Likewise, Lauda has the very same opportunity, though their feedback is considered trusted by default. Of course, your own personal trust settings can be tweaked and in fact, you could exclude their rating, keeping a trust level of 0.



In fact, I think I'll leave just a neutral for now.
posting in games and rounds doesnt mean ur a spammer, but nvm that's your brain stuff.
It does.  Games and rounds mostly contains annoying giveaways of tiny amounts to the sort of people who spend ten hours a day claiming dust from faucets.
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i don't threaten the forum, just this guy, lauda.
Threatening Lauda will mean that she's annoyed at you and other people would rightly think that you're not trustworthy.  Since Lauda's on the default trust list, her trust will give you a red mark and people will be less inclined to do deals with you.

So basically, it doesn't matter whether you've threatened the forum.  The forum hasn't punished you.  You've threatened Lauda, so Lauda has punished you.  Simple.

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May 07, 2017, 02:43:46 PM
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Ok, I may be agree with the fact that is normal to get a red trust for that message. But look on total point of view what happened? Why I did that? How she reacted?

Dudes Why should I beg a DT to remove my red trust that is giving for non sense? I mean your a DT because you're over other people as trust and bla bla.


When a fucking idiot -lauda- comes and give a red trust for absolutely no reason I need to beg to have deleted my red trust? What forum is this? I don't want to leave, I want to celebrate 10 years of bitcointalk.org with this account.


as a reminder here are the rules of trust on this forum:
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- List all of the trades that you do with people (or at least the major ones). This is not like #bitcoin-otc where you give people just one score.
- Do not rate people based on the quality of their posts.
- Older ratings count for more, so don't delete old ratings if you can avoid it.
- "Risked BTC" is how much money you could have lost if the person you're rating had turned out to be a scammer. Or, if they are a scammer, it's how much you lost. Use the BTC value at the time of reporting.
- It's OK to post a rating about the person in general, not tied to a specific trade.
- If you want to make a rating stronger, increase "Risked BTC". 50 extra risked BTC is equivalent to an additional rating.


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May 07, 2017, 03:46:51 PM
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as a reminder here are the rules of trust on this forum:
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- List all of the trades that you do with people (or at least the major ones). This is not like #bitcoin-otc where you give people just one score.
- Do not rate people based on the quality of their posts.
- Older ratings count for more, so don't delete old ratings if you can avoid it.
- "Risked BTC" is how much money you could have lost if the person you're rating had turned out to be a scammer. Or, if they are a scammer, it's how much you lost. Use the BTC value at the time of reporting.
- It's OK to post a rating about the person in general, not tied to a specific trade.
- If you want to make a rating stronger, increase "Risked BTC". 50 extra risked BTC is equivalent to an additional rating.

Nice job intentionally cutting out this part:


On feedback pages, you can leave trade feedback. There are no rules for this, but here are some guidelines:

- List all of the trades that you do with people (or at least the major ones). This is not like #bitcoin-otc where you give people just one score.
- Do not rate people based on the quality of their posts.
- Older ratings count for more, so don't delete old ratings if you can avoid it.
- "Risked BTC" is how much money you could have lost if the person you're rating had turned out to be a scammer. Or, if they are a scammer, it's how much you lost. Use the BTC value at the time of reporting.
- It's OK to post a rating about the person in general, not tied to a specific trade.
- If you want to make a rating stronger, increase "Risked BTC". 50 extra risked BTC is equivalent to an additional rating.

Guidelines, not rules. Don't be an idiot.

Known alts of actmyname (unofficial list by members with -2 trust or more): DarkStar_, Lauda, Lutpin, The Pharmacist, satoshi, theymos, thermos, the Monopoly man, Charlie Sheen, Shaquille O'Neal/s
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May 07, 2017, 03:53:41 PM
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Ok, I may be agree with the fact that is normal to get a red trust for that message. But look on total point of view what happened? Why I did that? How she reacted?

Dudes Why should I beg a DT to remove my red trust that is giving for non sense? I mean your a DT because you're over other people as trust and bla bla.


When a fucking idiot -lauda- comes and give a red trust for absolutely no reason I need to beg to have deleted my red trust? What forum is this? I don't want to leave, I want to celebrate 10 years of bitcointalk.org with this account.


as a reminder here are the rules of trust on this forum:
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- List all of the trades that you do with people (or at least the major ones). This is not like #bitcoin-otc where you give people just one score.
- Do not rate people based on the quality of their posts.
- Older ratings count for more, so don't delete old ratings if you can avoid it.
- "Risked BTC" is how much money you could have lost if the person you're rating had turned out to be a scammer. Or, if they are a scammer, it's how much you lost. Use the BTC value at the time of reporting.
- It's OK to post a rating about the person in general, not tied to a specific trade.
- If you want to make a rating stronger, increase "Risked BTC". 50 extra risked BTC is equivalent to an additional rating.



As well as what actmyname just said, note:

Quote from: theymos
It's OK to post a rating about the person in general, not tied to a specific trade.
If Lauda suspects you of putting several accounts into Bitmixer to spam, that's to do with you as a person more than the quality of your posts.  Therefore, even the guidelines would permit this negative trust.

It's obvious that trust should not be moderated as it's open to abuse.  The Default Trust list is just a guideline of trusted users on the forum and you can choose to agree or disagree feedback from whatever users you like.  Doesn't stop their feedback from existing, just like a review.

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May 07, 2017, 07:30:28 PM
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I can give Lauda one more very strong reason why you deserve a neg rate and maybe move some others as well to neg rate you.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=840084(VINSIN)

Accounts Connected:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=840084 (VINSIN)


Bazinga! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=921749)
christinalorine (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=833888)
1mGotRipped (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=897691)
77kdub (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=459892)
BadgeregdaB (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=900400)


Proof of connection:

I have connected all the accounts via ref. links being posted for yabtcl giveaway.

VINSIN posts following unique yabtcl referral links to participate in giveaway:

https://yabtcl.com/?ref=8521(http://archive.is/0IL80)
https://yabtcl.com/?ref=9227 (http://archive.is/PnYO0)
https://yabtcl.com/?ref=24349 (http://archive.is/qVNdY)
https://yabtcl.com/?ref=24565 (http://archive.is/G9o3Z)
https://yabtcl.com/?ref=24117 (http://archive.is/COvKu)


Now on searching it with forum search I get this ref. link connected to some of his alts account.

Bazinga! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=921749) posts ref. link of yabtcl in the same thread (http://archive.is/pPBg5)



christinalorine (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=833888) posts ref. link (http://archive.is/6Jcw9)



1mGotRipped (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=897691) posts ref link (http://archive.is/XCc2a)



77kdub (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=459892) posts ref. link (http://archive.is/AjoMm)


BadgeregdaB (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=900400) posts ref. link (http://archive.is/GvPUk)



Why you deserve more neg?

[1] Alternate account of loan defaulter (check feedback of christinalorine)



Why Lauda feedback is accurate?

Already proved up there^^ that you have so many accounts and all were involved in posting ref. links twice or thrice back to back or within short amount of time which shows what kind of spammer you are (giveaway spammer).

Lauda did a good work kicking you out of the campaign and adding you to SMAS.

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May 07, 2017, 08:54:15 PM
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I can give Lauda one more very strong reason why you deserve a neg rate and maybe move some others as well to neg rate you.
-snip-
This..this is how you drop a bomb on someone! Excellent work Avirunes. I have applied negative ratings to all those accounts.

Update: Seems to be a mistake due to ref. spam. Some ratings need to get updated.


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May 08, 2017, 01:33:48 AM
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woke up this morning and boom i have negative trust and tagged as an Alt of this guy "VINSIN" which is not true not even associated with him. I only know him from this site "Bitvest" which i also play. 

please be fair and square on tagging people as an Alt. I am from Philippines and i believe that guy is not from here.
I dont violate any rules and i believe i dont deserve this

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May 08, 2017, 01:37:32 AM
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woke up this morning and boom i have negative trust and tagged as an Alt of this guy "VINSIN" which is not true not even associated with him. I only know him from this site "Bitvest" which i also play.  

please be fair and square on tagging people as an Alt. I am from Philippines and i believe that guy is not from here.
I dont violate any rules and i believe i dont deserve this
Either you are alts or one of you has purchased some accounts. Rules have nothing to do with this, and breaking forum rules is not sanctioned by trust ratings (rather bans for example). You've both used the same referral link which connects your accounts:

VINSIN posts following unique yabtcl referral links to participate in giveaway:
https://yabtcl.com/?ref=24565 (http://archive.is/G9o3Z)



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May 08, 2017, 01:42:28 AM
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1mGotRipped (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=897691) posts ref link (http://archive.is/XCc2a)


if i can remember i ask him to post my ref at yabtcl so that i dont need to open the forum for the increase faucet for the game.
thats my only fault here. i dont deserve something like this. please be fair and square

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woke up this morning and boom i have negative trust and tagged as an Alt of this guy "VINSIN" which is not true not even associated with him. I only know him from this site "Bitvest" which i also play.  

please be fair and square on tagging people as an Alt. I am from Philippines and i believe that guy is not from here.
I dont violate any rules and i believe i dont deserve this
Either you are alts or one of you has purchased some accounts. Rules have nothing to do with this, and breaking forum rules is not sanctioned by trust ratings (rather bans for example). You've both used the same referral link which connects your accounts:

VINSIN posts following unique yabtcl referral links to participate in giveaway:
https://yabtcl.com/?ref=24565 (http://archive.is/G9o3Z)


1. im not an Alt, you can see the email that i have never change from the day my account was created on this forum. you can email me and i can verify you that this is my account
2. this is my only account. im a Filipino you can see my post there in Philippines thread

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May 08, 2017, 01:49:42 AM
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if i can remember i ask him to post my ref at yabtcl so that i dont need to open the forum for the increase faucet for the game.
thats my only fault here. i dont deserve something like this. please be fair and square
Isn't it *very convenient* that you asked this random user to post your ref? Roll Eyes

1. im not an Alt, you can see the email that i have never change from the day my account was created on this forum. you can email me and i can verify you that this is my account
2. this is my only account. im a Filipino you can see my post there in Philippines thread
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt because:
1) You post frequently in the Philiphines section, OP does not.
2) The General Statistics of both profiles seems to be somewhat different.

I'll let Avirunes and/or others chime in before taking any action.


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May 08, 2017, 01:54:13 AM
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if i can remember i ask him to post my ref at yabtcl so that i dont need to open the forum for the increase faucet for the game.
thats my only fault here. i dont deserve something like this. please be fair and square
Isn't it *very convenient* that you asked this random user to post your ref? Roll Eyes

1. im not an Alt, you can see the email that i have never change from the day my account was created on this forum. you can email me and i can verify you that this is my account
2. this is my only account. im a Filipino you can see my post there in Philippines thread
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt because:
1) You post frequently in the Philiphines section, OP does not.
2) The General Statistics of both profiles seems to be somewhat different.

I'll let Avirunes and/or others chime in before taking any action.

i been playing bitvest since last june 2016, most of the players there give their hand to help to post ref at yabtcl forum so that some of us dont need to open the forum for the faucet increase, well i already tell you the truth. god knows im innocent, the only think i can tell you is i dont deserve this but if this is your point of view okay good luck to you

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May 08, 2017, 04:20:39 AM
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1mGotRipped (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=897691) posts ref link (http://archive.is/XCc2a)


if i can remember i ask him to post my ref at yabtcl so that i dont need to open the forum for the increase faucet for the game.
thats my only fault here. i dont deserve something like this. please be fair and square

Hmm. checked now and it seems like all the username 77kdub,christy,VINSIN,Bazinga! are mods at bitvest while I am unable to verify your username. I think that my proof has gone wrong following if you were doing something as you said in statement.

But I will still consider it as spam following multiple ref. links being posted one after another within very short amount of time like this:



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For the meantime I would say 77kdub, Bazinga! , christinalorine , 1mGotRipped , BadgeregdaB are clean.

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May 08, 2017, 04:24:10 AM
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i been playing bitvest since last june 2016, most of the players there give their hand to help to post ref at yabtcl forum so that some of us dont need to open the forum for the faucet increase, well i already tell you the truth. god knows im innocent, the only think i can tell you is i dont deserve this but if this is your point of view okay good luck to you
Rating removed. FYI "god" doesn't exist and that's mambo jumbo equal to ancient voodoo magic. The closest things to a god that we have around here are Vod and the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

Hmm. checked now and it seems like all the username 77kdub,christy,VINSIN,Bazinga! are mods at bitvest while I am unable to verify your username. I think that my proof has gone wrong following if you were doing something as you said in statement.

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For the meantime I would say 77kdub, Bazinga! , christinalorine , 1mGotRipped , BadgeregdaB are clean.
What does this mean now? Moderators spamming each others referral links? How did you found out that they are mods at Bitvest?


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May 08, 2017, 04:39:52 AM
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Hmm. checked now and it seems like all the username 77kdub,christy,VINSIN,Bazinga! are mods at bitvest while I am unable to verify your username. I think that my proof has gone wrong following if you were doing something as you said in statement.

-snip-
For the meantime I would say 77kdub, Bazinga! , christinalorine , 1mGotRipped , BadgeregdaB are clean.
What does this mean now? ..... How did you found out that they are mods at Bitvest?

It matches their username. I was also a mod at Bitvest one time ago and left after that so I knew some out of them. Anyway that is not an important thing. You can check they are moderators in Bitvest>Help>Bitvest family

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77kdub=> 77kdub (Bitvest username) MOD
Bazinga!=> Bazinga (Bitvest username) MOD
christinalorine=> Christy! (Bitvest username) MOD
1mGotRipped=> not known till now
BadgeregdaB=> Badger (Bitvest username) MOD
VINSIN=> VINSIN (Bitvest username)


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Well kind of. One already stated that he asked other guy to post his ref. link so I think it was same with others as well. But seriously spamming each others ref. link and being too lazy? Seriously  Undecided

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May 08, 2017, 04:43:42 AM
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I don't have any idea what's going on here but I've done nothing wrong nowhere does it state you may only post one ref link per bct account for YABTCL giveaway I've posted for other users that didn't have bct accounts and asked if I would for them how is that spamming?

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It matches their username. I was also a mod at Bitvest one time ago and left after that so I knew some out of them. Anyway that is not an important thing. You can check they are moderators in Bitvest>Help>Bitvest family
You've caused a lot of trouble and unnecessary work. Shame on you Psychorunes! Tongue

christinalorine=> Christy! (Bitvest username) MOD
Which raises the question why Bitvest has this person as a mod as they have two negative ratings. That whole list is full of random people whom I should not even comment on for their own sake. Roll Eyes

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Moderators spamming each others referral links?
Well kind of. One already stated that he asked other guy to post his ref. link so I think it was same with others as well. But seriously spamming each others ref. link and being too lazy? Seriously  Undecided
This is a whole other and unusual way of ref. spamming on the forum.


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It matches their username. I was also a mod at Bitvest one time ago and left after that so I knew some out of them. Anyway that is not an important thing. You can check they are moderators in Bitvest>Help>Bitvest family
You've caused a lot of trouble and unnecessary work. Shame on you Psychorunes! Tongue

Guess I should take it to my Personal Message  Wink

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I stopped playing and posting my "own" ref link to yabtcl faucet thread for a month/s now, However , I am posting a ref link in behalf of my friend from bitvest, and posting ONCE a day on that thread isn't really spamming.

I can give Lauda one more very strong reason why you deserve a neg rate and maybe move some others as well to neg rate you.

Next time,when you try to help someone, please make sure that you've done your research first (proofs/facts) before "accusing" anyone, ergo your provided reason was not really strong.

Thanks to whoever removed those unwarranted negative rating.

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