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May 08, 2017, 12:24:27 PM
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https://medium.com/@cryptoo.shark/the-case-for-tezos-crowdsale-a-dao-level-investment-risk-6d552f8f6ef7

This is a post from an investors’ POV and doesn’t have the intention of placing the integrity of the project as a whole in question. It was made with the objective of warning potential investors (not long term participants who do it for the tech)

What is Tezos?
Tezos is a new decentralized blockchain that governs itself by establishing a true digital commonwealth. It facilitates formal verification, a technique which mathematically proves the correctness of the code governing transactions and boosts the security of the most sensitive or financially weighted smart contracts.
Tezos is an exciting new project that aims to compete with Ethereum.


It’s based on Proof of Stake and has a focus on governance. This is because the Tezos blockchain can upgrade itself via consensus with no need for hard forks.
I’d say this is where it differs from Ethereum. It aims to be more decentralized and flexible.

Smart Contracts: Michelson Language
The language is stack based, with high level data types and primitives and strict static type checking. Its design cherry picks traits from several language families. Vigilant readers will notice direct references to Forth, Scheme, ML and Cat.
More information on the new language that is used to power the smart contracts on the Tezos blockchain can be found here: https://tezos.com/static/papers/language.pdf

The Crowdsale
The Tezos crowdsale will be uncapped. This means there won’t have a limit on how much funding they can receive. Billionaire investor has declared he is backing the Tezos project. There has been some hype about this but it’s not necessarily good as we will see.
The Potential DAO 2.0
“The DAO” as it was called, aimed to be a Decentralized Autonomous Organization. It ended up gathering around $150 million, being the biggest crowdfund in history, even surpassing the Star Citizen game.
“The DAO” code is a smart contract written using the Solidity language, created to be used on the Ethereum blockchain. As it turned out, the contract contained a serious flaw which allowed the attacker to exploit it and drain the funds.
Why did this happen? The reason, other than the negligence of it’s creators (who, by the way, ignored previous warnings from community members regarding the code that would eventually be exploited), was that a new programming language was used.
People were still not used to it. Contracts written using new languages are subjective to programming errors and even unknown attack vectors. That’s the main problem. It’s something new. People don’t know where to look for mistakes. That’s normal. However, there will be always someone to take advantage of that.
This is specially dangerous (and attractive to an attacker) if people’s money is at stake.

The ICO Hype
The crypto community is currently living some sort of “bubble” regarding ICOs (Initial Coin Offerings/Crowdsales). Many projects get huge sums of money without having much to show. This situation has reached a point where ICOs are reaching their goals of millions of dollars in minutes. Cosmos crowdsale got $17 million in around 30m, the Gnosis crowdsale gathered $12.5 million also in a few minutes with developers retaining 95% of all tokens. This gives the -yet undelivered project- a value of around $300 million. The 1st Blood Crowdsale a few months ago also gathered $5.5 million in around 5 minutes.
This made the Trezor team to opt by chosing an uncapped model, in order to give everyone a chance. Fair enough.

The Risks of the Tezos Crowdsale

Dillution: An uncapped crowdsale means there is no limit to how much funding it can receive. This means the more money goes in and people participate, the more their investment gets dilluted. Tim Draper hype and ICO bubble will easily make Tezos gather +$100 million. Could easily see it raising way more funds than “The DAO”.
DAO 2.0: New programming language. It’s hard to even know where to look for in order to find potential exploits. Lots of money at stake. Nice target for an attacker.
Husband and Wife: Lead by Arthur Breitman and Kathleen Breitman. I know this sounds… low. Yet, it’s a risk worth considering. What happens in the unfortunate case where they diverge and separate from each other? What impact will this have on the project? Are they able to work together? If not, who quits the project? What importance does that person have on the project, giving they have been working on it for years and know it better than anyone else? I believe it wouldn’t have as much as impact as this but, what would happen to Ethereum if Vitalik quit? Like it or not, Vitalik is Ethereum.
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Just know the risks before participating on any crowdsale. Did this post because I find this to be a critical one. Expecting a ridiculous amount of money to be gathered and this to be a very high risk crowdsale for investors. This, of course, assuming one participates expecting a decent ROI.
Again, Tezos clearly seems like an interesting project. That’s not what I’m arguing here. This post is from an investors’ point of view.
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May 08, 2017, 01:10:42 PM
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Tim Draper seems to be interested:

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/05/billionaire-investor-tim-draper-backs-new-cryptocurrency.html

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Billionaire venture capitalist Tim Draper soon plans to take a step that even he, a long-time bitcoin aficionado, has eschewed until now: Buying a new digital currency offered by a technology start-up.

Draper, an early supporter of bitcoin and its underlying blockchain financial ledger technology, told Reuters in an interview he will for the first time participate in a so-called "initial coin offering" (ICO) of Tezos slated later this month.

Tezos, a new blockchain platform launched by a husband-and-wife team with extensive Wall Street and hedge fund backgrounds, will launch the ICO on May 22. Draper will also invest in U.S.-based Dynamic Ledger Solutions Inc., the creator of Tezos, but did not disclose details.

 
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May 08, 2017, 05:37:35 PM
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Uncapped should have people being cautious. Is there a number of tokens given?

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May 08, 2017, 06:29:26 PM
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No cap on tokens either, i believe you get 5k tezos per bitcoin and bonuses for investing early, two week ico i heard


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May 08, 2017, 07:01:54 PM
Last edit: May 08, 2017, 07:51:12 PM by tokeweed
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You guys don't seem to realize the real risk here considering the millions coming to the 'ICO explosion' going on.  We aren't flying under the radar anymore and the SEC would sooner or later make an example of someone to create fear and keep everyone in line.  They could put Tim Draper in handcuffs and make a whole media circus out of it.

If there's one thing that's making me iffy investing in Tezos, ^ that's it.

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May 08, 2017, 08:03:08 PM
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Sinking feeling that we are being played here. All these articles about Draper... its like a coordinated pump. Freaks me out. Anyone else get this feeling?

To be fair, everyone made fun of the Gnosis ICO and it seems to be doing fine.
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May 09, 2017, 04:17:57 AM
Last edit: May 09, 2017, 09:43:09 AM by tokeweed
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Sinking feeling that we are being played here. All these articles about Draper... its like a coordinated pump. Freaks me out. Anyone else get this feeling?

It's hype.  A coordinated pump will happen as it always does, but we don't know when.

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To be fair, everyone made fun of the Gnosis ICO and it seems to be doing fine.

Lol.  Are you shilling?  They're all the same.  The only difference that should matter to you is which one gives you more profit.

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May 09, 2017, 06:28:03 AM
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Great article, you raise some interesting concerns. Your take on the husband/wife relationship is also quite innovative.

I noticed a spelling mistake

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This made the Trezor team to opt by chosing an uncapped model, in order to give everyone a chance. Fair enough.

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May 09, 2017, 12:57:39 PM
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Great article, you raise some interesting concerns. Your take on the husband/wife relationship is also quite innovative.

I noticed a spelling mistake

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This made the Trezor team to opt by chosing an uncapped model, in order to give everyone a chance. Fair enough.

Cheers,


Edited, thanks.
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