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May 08, 2017, 05:25:06 PM
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A Catholic priest infected with HIV raped 30 girl children aged between 5 and 10, and has been acquitted by the church after he admitted to the heinous crime.

Jose Garcia Ataulfo, was cleared of any wrong-doing and won't face any criminal charges. This decision comes in the light of an announcement by Pope Francis that the church would aim to be “more merciful” by reducing penalties for paedophile priests. Just how will they do this? Relocate them to a different church in order to offer them support rather than punishing them.

In this case, the Vatican even declared that "the matter is closed" when the mother of one of the victims sought an audience with the Pope in Rome to discuss the case. Only two out of the 30 rape victims have come forward to denounce the acquittal.





https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1839134/catholic-church-acquits-hiv-positive-priest-who-admitted-raping-30-young-mexican-girls-and-cops-are-refusing-to-investigate/
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And the biggest joke is that this guy will be kept alive with the help of expensive anti-retrovirals from Vatican, while the 30 kids who got infected by him will slowly die as they have to rely on prayer and gospel to cure their HIV.

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May 08, 2017, 05:40:29 PM
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And the biggest joke is that this guy will be kept alive with the help of expensive anti-retrovirals from Vatican, while the 30 kids who got infected by him will slowly die as they have to rely on prayer and gospel to cure their HIV.

I have always said that religion is evil. I want to know where to look law enforcement? Rape and pedophilia is a crime for which no indulgences even from the Pope. If there are such facts that he should sit in jail. Maybe it's a fake?
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May 08, 2017, 05:45:19 PM
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I have always said that religion is evil. I want to know where to look law enforcement? Rape and pedophilia is a crime for which no indulgences even from the Pope. If there are such facts that he should sit in jail. Maybe it's a fake?

Unfortunately, it is not fake. This incident occurred in the state of Oaxaca in Mexico. Almost all of the victims were indigenous girls aged between 5 and 10. Since the victims are all native, the press is going to hush up the news (else they will face the wrath of the powerful Catholic church).

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May 08, 2017, 05:49:02 PM
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This is the guy:



And the biggest joke is that this guy will be kept alive with the help of expensive anti-retrovirals from Vatican, while the 30 kids who got infected by him will slowly die as they have to rely on prayer and gospel to cure their HIV.

I have always said that religion is evil. I want to know where to look law enforcement? Rape and pedophilia is a crime for which no indulgences even from the Pope. If there are such facts that he should sit in jail. Maybe it's a fake?

Forgiveness is never evil, humans are. A human being doing something wrong (sinning) and being evil does not make the religion evil. People who are religious aren't perfect.

I do not agree with letting the man go. If the man is not going to rape any more children, why should he be put in jail? If he will continue to, of course he should be put in jail. A punishment is useless if it makes no difference to society.
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If the man is not going to rape any more children, why should he be put in jail? If he will continue to, of course he should be put in jail. A punishment is useless if it makes no difference to society.

I almost threw up after reading your comment. Religious nuts like you are really a horrendous bunch. The man has to pay for his crimes. It is not like you can rape three dozen girls and then walk home saying that you are not going to repeat the crime.

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That's why countries like Mexico will never become a developed country. There is no law, there is no reasoning. They don't have the balls to punish  that freak because the whole country is being swarmed by those freaks. Just like in the middle east. This also proves that Islam or Christianity doesn't matter; all religions are cancer.

A pervert pope can exist every once in a while but if your justice system can't punish him, then it means that your country sucks. Big time. Pack and leave.

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That's why countries like Mexico will never become a developed country. There is no law, there is no reasoning. They don't have the balls to punish  that freak because the whole country is being swarmed by those freaks. Just like in the middle east. This also proves that Islam or Christianity doesn't matter; all religions are cancer.

A pervert pope can exist every once in a while but if your justice system can't punish him, then it means that your country sucks. Big time. Pack and leave.

Unlike militant atheism best represent by Nazi Germany and Soviet Union, yes?

You take for granted living in developed country that was build from the ground by evangelicals. Not some secular cultists.

The problem is not with Christianity, but within structures of corporate Catholic Church, that distanced itself immensely from teachings of the Book. Celibacy of the priests being direct result of clergys fear about retention of their estates.

Bible has no kind words on pedophiles or pardoning punishment on such godless freaks. The only people, according to Bible, who have authority to forgive said criminal are his victims and their families. In any other scenario, punishment including the capital one is on the table.

The Bible prescribes the death penalty for the following activities, among others:

    Murder
    Adultery
    Bestiality
    Rape of a virgin

Source: Deuteronomy 22:22-27
    
EDIT: By the way, I am interested on what were you thinking with that "pack up and leave" comment. Secular liberals are doing their "job" all over the west these days.

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May 08, 2017, 07:03:59 PM
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Is this even real? If yes... disgusting monster priest and an even more disgusting Vatican. I've only heard cases like this spoken in hushed tones but they really outdid themselves here. And what is the Mexican government doing? Rape is still a criminal offense.
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Is this even real? If yes... disgusting monster priest and an even more disgusting Vatican. I've only heard cases like this spoken in hushed tones but they really outdid themselves here. And what is the Mexican government doing? Rape is still a criminal offense.

Yes, its absolutely appalling. We all knew, that Mexico is struggling with systematic corruption, but the fact that its leading institution on matters of morals and faith is no better than liberal cultists elsewhere in the world speaks volume on how much it regressed. Not only does Catholic Church ignore laws of host country, it also explicitly goes against holy gospel it swore to upkeep and protect. Shameful.

Only bright side I can see in all of this is, that more people will learn about the incident and hold both "priest" and church of golden bullion accountable. No man or institution shall stand above laws of nature.

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May 08, 2017, 07:19:35 PM
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How can this be? I don't believe in God, but I know that is a crime. As the Pope can forgive such a crime? This priest not only committed a crime, but also embarrassed the whole Catholic Church. These need to burn at the stake. What are the police? Or in Mexico, the Pope decides who is guilty and who is not?
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May 08, 2017, 08:14:32 PM
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The Bible prescribes the death penalty for the following activities, among others:

    Murder
    Adultery
    Bestiality
    Rape of a virgin

Source: Deuteronomy 22:22-27


Fuck bible.

We live in 2017, not medieval ages and you are still talking about death penalty, as expected from a bible following barbarian.

You don't kill criminals, you throw them into jail forever till they are dead. That's how you handle them. No electric chair, no drugs, no hanging... Jail. We are not an African tribe, lighten up.

Bible written by Humans, it made sense for its time but not now. Time has changed. Bible is outdated. (the others also) We have internet now, you can find any information you want. Update yourself to our age or die as a bigot.

Do you realize you sound just like an average Muslim btw?

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May 08, 2017, 08:22:51 PM
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The Bible prescribes the death penalty for the following activities, among others:

    Murder
    Adultery
    Bestiality
    Rape of a virgin

Source: Deuteronomy 22:22-27


Fuck bible.

We live in 2017, not medieval ages and you are still talking about death penalty, as expected from a bible following barbarian.

You don't kill criminals, you throw them into jail forever till they are dead. That's how you handle them. No electric chair, no drugs, no hanging... Jail. We are not an African tribe, lighten up.

Bible written by Humans, it made sense for its time but not now. Time has changed. Bible is outdated. (the others also) We have internet now, you can find any information you want. Update yourself to our age or die as a bigot.

Do you realize you sound just like an average Muslim btw?

I think that death penalty is needed in these cases. Just make a few examples and you will see that no more pedophile priests will try to do these extremely nasty acts. These kind of persons do not deserve to live, in fact I don't understand the FBI or CIA or the governments which keeps these human trash alive in their prisons.
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May 08, 2017, 08:27:42 PM
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From the outside it all looks very scary and how things are in fact should return from within. There was a time when I watched the TV series Ray Donovan, which also raised the topic of priests and children. How can the church forgive? If they are criminals? Religion has always taught forgiveness, but in terms of morality and humanity, these people are real dregs and how to deal with them better.
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May 08, 2017, 08:28:10 PM
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The Bible prescribes the death penalty for the following activities, among others:

    Murder
    Adultery
    Bestiality
    Rape of a virgin

Source: Deuteronomy 22:22-27


Fuck bible.

We live in 2017, not medieval ages and you are still talking about death penalty, as expected from a bible following barbarian.

You don't kill criminals, you throw them into jail forever till they are dead. That's how you handle them. No electric chair, no drugs, no hanging... Jail. We are not an African tribe, lighten up.

Bible written by Humans, it made sense for its time but not now. Time has changed. Bible is outdated. (the others also) We have internet now, you can find any information you want. Update yourself to our age or die as a bigot.

Do you realize you sound just like an average Muslim btw?

I think that death penalty is needed in these cases. Just make a few examples and you will see that no more pedophile priests will try to do these extremely nasty acts. These kind of persons do not deserve to live, in fact I don't understand the FBI or CIA or the governments which keeps these human trash alive in their prisons.

Why don't go join to ISIS? You can make yourself a living there. Because that's  exactly the same reasoning with their belief.

If someone raped somebody? Cut his dick off.
Someone stole something? Cut his stealing hand off.
Someone murdered? Hang (behead most likely) him at the city center.

Is this what you want?

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May 08, 2017, 08:29:42 PM
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This is just unbelievable. Oh great, now I'll go out, rape someone and confess later and I would be forgiven. Oh wait! I forgot, not a part of the clergy. Does Mexico have a constitution that have separation of Church and State. I mean, them old folks at the Vatican might think this is OK but which ever way you look at it, this is a crime. If Mexico just allows this perv to get away with this, maybe Americans would say they really are justified for wanting a wall.
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May 08, 2017, 08:35:19 PM
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The Bible prescribes the death penalty for the following activities, among others:

    Murder
    Adultery
    Bestiality
    Rape of a virgin

Source: Deuteronomy 22:22-27


Fuck bible.

We live in 2017, not medieval ages and you are still talking about death penalty, as expected from a bible following barbarian.

You don't kill criminals, you throw them into jail forever till they are dead. That's how you handle them. No electric chair, no drugs, no hanging... Jail. We are not an African tribe, lighten up.

Bible written by Humans, it made sense for its time but not now. Time has changed. Bible is outdated. (the others also) We have internet now, you can find any information you want. Update yourself to our age or die as a bigot.

Do you realize you sound just like an average Muslim btw?

I think that death penalty is needed in these cases. Just make a few examples and you will see that no more pedophile priests will try to do these extremely nasty acts. These kind of persons do not deserve to live, in fact I don't understand the FBI or CIA or the governments which keeps these human trash alive in their prisons.

Why don't go join to ISIS? You can make yourself a living there. Because that's  exactly the same reasoning with their belief.

If someone raped somebody? Cut his dick off.
Someone stole something? Cut his stealing hand off.
Someone murdered? Hang (behead most likely) him at the city center.

Is this what you want?

I'm not a savage like ISIS but I believe this man does deserve capital punishment. You don't have to shout "Off with their heads, off with their heads!" like the Red Queen but death penalty should be an option for revolting crimes like this. It should be there to make it clear to people that human rights can only go so far. I'd forgive crimes against property but rape is violation of another person's being. It shows no respect for the individual, the individual is only seen as an object to gratify sexual urges. A object without rights.
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May 08, 2017, 08:38:57 PM
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The Bible prescribes the death penalty for the following activities, among others:

    Murder
    Adultery
    Bestiality
    Rape of a virgin

Source: Deuteronomy 22:22-27


Fuck bible.

We live in 2017, not medieval ages and you are still talking about death penalty, as expected from a bible following barbarian.

You don't kill criminals, you throw them into jail forever till they are dead. That's how you handle them. No electric chair, no drugs, no hanging... Jail. We are not an African tribe, lighten up.

Bible written by Humans, it made sense for its time but not now. Time has changed. Bible is outdated. (the others also) We have internet now, you can find any information you want. Update yourself to our age or die as a bigot.

Do you realize you sound just like an average Muslim btw?

I think that death penalty is needed in these cases. Just make a few examples and you will see that no more pedophile priests will try to do these extremely nasty acts. These kind of persons do not deserve to live, in fact I don't understand the FBI or CIA or the governments which keeps these human trash alive in their prisons.

Why don't go join to ISIS? You can make yourself a living there. Because that's  exactly the same reasoning with their belief.

If someone raped somebody? Cut his dick off.
Someone stole something? Cut his stealing hand off.
Someone murdered? Hang (behead most likely) him at the city center.

Is this what you want?

Maybe they are extreme punishments the ones you are saying, but they are effective. Since you put up all punishments from Saudi Arabia let me reply you with some statistics from this country which many people believe is abusing human rights and maybe they are but :

There are about 6 killings in a year in Saudi Arabia, this number is clearly higher in a single day in some European countries and especially in the USA. (It is looking effective that they hang the killer for 3 days in the city center, only 6 kills in a year)

There are no rapes reported in Saudi Arabia from many years.


P.S: I am a Christian but honestly I like their justice system. Because it is effective, clearly in my country Italy we don't have it yet.
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May 08, 2017, 08:44:27 PM
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The Bible prescribes the death penalty for the following activities, among others:

    Murder
    Adultery
    Bestiality
    Rape of a virgin

Source: Deuteronomy 22:22-27


Fuck bible.

We live in 2017, not medieval ages and you are still talking about death penalty, as expected from a bible following barbarian.

You don't kill criminals, you throw them into jail forever till they are dead. That's how you handle them. No electric chair, no drugs, no hanging... Jail. We are not an African tribe, lighten up.

Bible written by Humans, it made sense for its time but not now. Time has changed. Bible is outdated. (the others also) We have internet now, you can find any information you want. Update yourself to our age or die as a bigot.

Do you realize you sound just like an average Muslim btw?

Fuck bible? Fuck you.

This is your liberal left world with Catholic Church being one of its many victims, that we live in. Not mine. People of the Book regardless if they call themselves Christians, Muslims or Jews will restore natural order. You, "progressive" cultists are already dying out all over the world. You claim to worship "human rights" but in practice you worship death.



Restoration of capital punishment is not in order, because people should enjoy it. It is in order, because it works. Because all men are equal in birth and death with none standing above God. Your broken moral compass grants more rights to criminals and pathologically insane, than to their victims. Secular progressives at work in United Kingdom:



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May 08, 2017, 08:47:45 PM
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This is the guy:



And the biggest joke is that this guy will be kept alive with the help of expensive anti-retrovirals from Vatican, while the 30 kids who got infected by him will slowly die as they have to rely on prayer and gospel to cure their HIV.


The biggest joke is the parents of the 30 children who do nothing. If it was my daughter you would find yourself dead in a pool of your own blood if you even tried to stop me. If I could get my hands on this guy I would tie his ankles to my rear bumper and drag him around town for a few hours. During Sunday mass.

Fuck religion.
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