UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread

[eaLiTy]

@pereira4 ,Jon Jones was a junkie but he never used performance enhancing drugs and do you think that he was really into it because we cannot see much of a change physically after the implementation of USADA as most of the PED users are out of shape now because of the strict policy and it is not that easy to bypass them,we are seeing improvements in the physical appearance of Jones recently and he never won the fights with his big muscular body,he won because of his creativity inside the cage.

[gabmen]

well hopefully this is true and if it is, hopefully nothing happens again to bones. this has been too far overdue and with the way cormier defeated rumble the last time around, I think this is the next big fight that everyone should look forward to. I think aside from any side issues, bones still is the best light heavyweight out there.

[bbc.reporter]

@pereira4. They are all the same. If everyone of them can avoid the detection of steroid use then all of them would use it. The Brazilians are known to be the ones who use a lot of steroids. It explains why Junior Dos Santos was easily knocked out by Stipe.

[Baofeng]

Jon Jones is a cheater in my book, who knows how many times he has fooled the system to get on there with enhancements. Also let's not forget that Jon Jones lost the fight against Alexander Gustafsson (at least in my opinion, or was very close to losing him) and the judges gave him the decision in one of those controversial nights.

In fact I would like to see an Alexander Gustafsson rematch above a DC rematch.

I think the Alexander Gustafsson can go either way. But since he is the champion that time the judges give him the nod. As for the cheating, I always thought that he intentionally poke the eye of his opponent. The rule says you need to have a close fist, but he always open his fist that sometimes he accidentally? poke some of his opponents and never deducted a point by the referee. This for me is the special treatment and he thinks that he can always do it without any reprimand from the referee.

[Hydrogen]

I think this friday is also bellator 179, Paul Daley vs Rory MacDonald.

There could be some good fights on that card although unfortunately Michael Venom Page vs Derek Anderson was cancelled after Page suffered a knee injury.

I think the card airs early in the morning for north america and will be on a tape replay. Have to get those bets in earlier than normal.

[Siren]

I think this friday is also bellator 179, Paul Daley vs Rory MacDonald.

There could be some good fights on that card although unfortunately Michael Venom Page vs Derek Anderson was cancelled after Page suffered a knee injury.

I think the card airs early in the morning for north america and will be on a tape replay. Have to get those bets in earlier than normal.

I didn't know that Rory has moved to Bellator. He was once regarded as the "heir apparent" to fellow Canadian GSP. But two unsuccessful fights against Robbie Lawler and Stephen Thompson put him out of the contention. I think this will be an easy fight for now. He has all the advantage against Paul Daley so I think he will win this one to get back his confidence level.

[eaLiTy]

@Hydrogen i am going for a parlay for Bellator 179 ,Rory MacDonald vs Paul Daley, Paul Daley does not even have a chance against Rory MacDonald as he is a beast and he has defeated the current Welterweight champ Tyron Woodley and Paul Daley does not even have a good resume and i have seen his sloppy fights in UFC and Dana banned him for life for hitting the opponent after the bell . another match is Liam McGeary vs Linton Vassell, Liam Mcgeary will take down Vassel pretty easily and will defeat him within two rounds.

[thejaytiesto]

We have more info on this one already:

http://www.ufc.com/event/ufc-214?id=

I already picked up my winners

D Cormier vs Jon Jones: DC wins
Woodley vs Maia: Woodley wins
Cyborg vs Evinger: Cyborg wins
Lawler vs Cerrone: Cerrone wins
Sage Northcut vs Magdesi: Northcut wins


I have no idea about the rest so im not picking any sides.

Im going for DC because Jon Jones has fucked up so many times with drugs, that DC will win either by DQ on jones, or by Jones underperforming due his head being a mess, and you can't make a single mistake with DC or it's over.

[Hydrogen]

We have more info on this one already:

http://www.ufc.com/event/ufc-214?id=

I already picked up my winners

D Cormier vs Jon Jones: DC wins
Woodley vs Maia: Woodley wins
Cyborg vs Evinger: Cyborg wins
Lawler vs Cerrone: Cerrone wins
Sage Northcut vs Magdesi: Northcut wins

I have no idea about the rest so im not picking any sides.

Im going for DC because Jon Jones has fucked up so many times with drugs, that DC will win either by DQ on jones, or by Jones underperforming due his head being a mess, and you can't make a single mistake with DC or it's over.

Jon Jones problem is substance abuse. Alcohol, cocaine, whatever. DC's problem seems to be controlling his eating. Maybe DC is similar to Johny Hendricks. I'm not certain how that will go down. DC looked a lot better fighting Rumble Johnson than Jon Jones looked fighting Ovince St Preux.

Didn't realize Sage Northcutt was fighting. That guy does a good job with his social media and self promotion. I think that's why he gets paid more than other athletes. Sage Northcutt has about twice as many twitter followers as Gegard Mousasi. If only he could do better in his fights.

[jamyr]

This fight is one of the most anticipated UFC rematch as many fools like me idolize Jon Jones and his unpredictable way of fighting. So I am for Jones here via scorecards. Because I want a part 3.

[eaLiTy]

@thejaytiesto I wont bet against Jon Jones as i consider him the greatest fighter of all time,i really like Daniel Cormier when he started his career in the heavy weight division and was following all his fights till now,he is the second best fighter but age is also not in his side.

@Hydrogen This time around Daniel Cormier wont be having his usual weight cutting issues as he is under the control of a dietitian and he is following his routine and wight cutting rules have changed now,you have to start weight cutting two months before the fight and the commission will monitor these things and if they find they are over weight two months prior ,then they wont allow them to fight cutting the weight.

[peter0425]

@thejaytiesto I wont bet against Jon Jones as i consider him the greatest fighter of all time,i really like Daniel Cormier when he started his career in the heavy weight division and was following all his fights till now,he is the second best fighter but age is also not in his side.

@Hydrogen This time around Daniel Cormier wont be having his usual weight cutting issues as he is under the control of a dietitian and he is following his routine and wight cutting rules have changed now,you have to start weight cutting two months before the fight and the commission will monitor these things and if they find they are over weight two months prior ,then they wont allow them to fight cutting the weight.

I'm leaning toward Daniel Cormier here. Jon Jones has the psychological disadvantage this time around. DC will show who is the real champion and he really wants to fucked up Jones and  this time he has the chance and will not let this slip away. DC will use his wrestling and this will be a long and grinding fight that will favor him. DC will come and ready to fight but I don't know about Jon Jones. Daniel Cormier by decision.

[tokeweed]

^ Exactly.  For the odds they're laying on Jones + his absence and his personal problems, I'd rather take Cormier here.  Seems like the bookies are over rating Jones right now.  Let's see how the lines move as the event comes closer.

[thejaytiesto]

We have more info on this one already:

http://www.ufc.com/event/ufc-214?id=

I already picked up my winners

D Cormier vs Jon Jones: DC wins
Woodley vs Maia: Woodley wins
Cyborg vs Evinger: Cyborg wins
Lawler vs Cerrone: Cerrone wins
Sage Northcut vs Magdesi: Northcut wins

I have no idea about the rest so im not picking any sides.

Im going for DC because Jon Jones has fucked up so many times with drugs, that DC will win either by DQ on jones, or by Jones underperforming due his head being a mess, and you can't make a single mistake with DC or it's over.

Jon Jones problem is substance abuse. Alcohol, cocaine, whatever. DC's problem seems to be controlling his eating. Maybe DC is similar to Johny Hendricks. I'm not certain how that will go down. DC looked a lot better fighting Rumble Johnson than Jon Jones looked fighting Ovince St Preux.

Didn't realize Sage Northcutt was fighting. That guy does a good job with his social media and self promotion. I think that's why he gets paid more than other athletes. Sage Northcutt has about twice as many twitter followers as Gegard Mousasi. If only he could do better in his fights.

The only chance to turn his life arround is to win this match, get totally clean and never have a single mistake ever again. The fans will not tolerate another show. If he gets disqualified in UFC 214 because of traces of coke found or whatnot, his career is over. I don't think Dana White is stupid enough to give him another chance. It's pretty much over if he makes another mistake.

Sage Northcutt looks like a Ken or something. He must have so many female fans. Good looking people have it a lot easier in social media. Now he just needs to not get his ass kicked to continue cashing in on that.

[SaShiRaJaVu]

^ Exactly.  For the odds they're laying on Jones + his absence and his personal problems, I'd rather take Cormier here.  Seems like the bookies are over rating Jones right now.  Let's see how the lines move as the event comes closer.

The only reason the bookies are favoring Jones is simply because he is the best fighter who stepped into the octagon and even in the first fight DC was in prime shape and still he could not do anything to Jones and that is the only reason the odds are in favor of Jones. They really hate each other and i am sure both fighters will prepare to their best of their ability.

[pereira4]

Official trailer and extended preview are now out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8lL0EItUvU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwjELWV4mMI

Can't wait for this one. I can't decide who im betting for... I may not even bet and just watch the fight without the stress of risking real money.

[tokeweed]

Official trailer and extended preview are now out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8lL0EItUvU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwjELWV4mMI

Can't wait for this one. I can't decide who im betting for... I may not even bet and just watch the fight without the stress of risking real money.

Hehe.  you beat me to it.  Thanks for posting.  And I changed the original post btw.  Look at the event poster, looks really good.  I wish I could get a real one, frame it and get it displayed it in my office.

[pereira4]

Official trailer and extended preview are now out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8lL0EItUvU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwjELWV4mMI

Can't wait for this one. I can't decide who im betting for... I may not even bet and just watch the fight without the stress of risking real money.

Hehe.  you beat me to it.  Thanks for posting.  And I changed the original post btw.  Look at the event poster, looks really good.  I wish I could get a real one, frame it and get it displayed it in my office.

Daniel Cormier looks like he has white eyes like a Mortal Kombat character like Subzero lol.

The buildup is great, I want to see the press conference and see them go at it, but right now the Mayweather and McGregor press conferences are being one of the most entertaining I have seen. Conor rocked Mayweather on stage yesterday, but Mayweather also got some good ones.

[Hydrogen]

Jones seems to be in denial about having a substance abuse issue. More than 5 years of DUI's, car wrecks and positive cocaine tests & he still doesn't appear to recognize there's a problem there. He could be an addict.

Does anyone laugh about this card having 3 title fights on it because everyone is afraid Jon Jones will make a bad decision and not be able to fight? That's hilarious to me.

[tokeweed]

Daniel Cormier looks like he has white eyes like a Mortal Kombat character like Subzero lol.

The buildup is great, I want to see the press conference and see them go at it, but right now the Mayweather and McGregor press conferences are being one of the most entertaining I have seen. Conor rocked Mayweather on stage yesterday, but Mayweather also got some good ones.

I honestly find Mayweather lacking with the trash talking.  He doesn't know how, and that's weird considering that black people are really good at it.  He's behind McGregor in promoting this fight by a mile. 

Jones seems to be in denial about having a substance abuse issue. More than 5 years of DUI's, car wrecks and positive cocaine tests & he still doesn't appear to recognize there's a problem there. He could be an addict.

Does anyone laugh about this card having 3 title fights on it because everyone is afraid Jon Jones will make a bad decision and not be able to fight? That's hilarious to me.

Good point!  Is there a prop bet for the Jones pulling out again.