‘Merciful’ Church Forgives HIV-Infected Catholic Priest Who Raped 30 Children

[robelneo]

Am I reading the post right,he will retain his priesthood and will be transfer to a new church?this is crazy he should be condemn to death the hiv infected children he raped are now suffering from almost a death sentence,I will not go to the church where he is preaching,he don't deserve to retain the priesthood

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[Okurkabinladin]

This is not an excuse for this pastor. How all these people can be forgiven. The bastard ruined the lives of so many children. I believe that people like him should not be forgiven and to be executed. The Pope I was very disappointed.

Here are the latest developments:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3799005/Catholic-Church-ACQUITS-Mexican-priest-admitted-raping-30-young-girls-knew-infected-HIV.html

I agree that this cleric must be punished, and probably castrated or emasculated. But now, lets think about the methods to be taken, to prevent a repetition of similar incidents in the future. Perhaps children should not be allowed to visit Catholic priests without an accompanying adult.

Frankly, friend. That would require draconic laws infringing both upon freedom of religion and personal freedom.

Perhaps the best prevention would be for Catholic Church to reform itself and abolish priest celibacy altogether (altough, that would for sure create rift among its billion plus followers with unforseen consequences...). It is centuries old, almost pagan custom, way that Catholic Clergy prevented possibility that any people could (as offspring of clerics) lay claim to property and estates of the institution. The obvious con of celibacy is that it turns small minority of priests into potential sexual predators...

Am I reading the post right,he will retain his priesthood and will be transfer to a new church?this is crazy he should be condemn to death the hiv infected children he raped are now suffering from almost a death sentence,I will not go to the church where he is preaching,he don't deserve to retain the priesthood

Yes, you are right. In fact, bible - unlike present day secular governments, explicitly prescripts death penalty for child rape, no common man nor priest exempt from that. In their attempt at damage control, institutions of Catholic Church are going against the very Book they swore to live by. Shameful and now that everything took place, there is no clean way out for anyone involved.

[TheCoinGrabber]

Is this even real? If yes... disgusting monster priest and an even more disgusting Vatican. I've only heard cases like this spoken in hushed tones but they really outdid themselves here. And what is the Mexican government doing? Rape is still a criminal offense.

Yes, its absolutely appalling. We all knew, that Mexico is struggling with systematic corruption, but the fact that its leading institution on matters of morals and faith is no better than liberal cultists elsewhere in the world speaks volume on how much it regressed. Not only does Catholic Church ignore laws of host country, it also explicitly goes against holy gospel it swore to upkeep and protect. Shameful.

Only bright side I can see in all of this is, that more people will learn about the incident and hold both "priest" and church of golden bullion accountable. No man or institution shall stand above laws of nature.

Does Mexico have a secular constitution? I thought it was a bit less conservative than my country coz I heard abortion and divorce are legal there. I would understand if the Church is really given powers that this abuse might just be accepted if not, why are they not even trying to prosecute that, that thing?!

Every country should make it illegal for the Church, and any religious institution at that, to just shuffle around their erring clergy.

Wrong line of questioning. Anything is possible in Mexico con la mordida.

http://mexicomatters.net/retirementmexico/04_bribeslamordidainmexico.php

Sigh, 

Well, if the media would report a case, maybe there's a chance that it would be tried if it not for the Church's habit of spiriting away their priests. Of course they could get away with it by bribing immigration officials so they can flee the country but if the Church itself stops codding these monsters, then they'll be caught. And the Church wonders why attendance is decreasing.

Did anyone RTFA? Even the sensationalist link mentions that the diocese doesn't have a priest by that name.

The abuse by the church has been horrible, but there's no need to make it up.

Oh believe me, that happens in my country too. "There's no person with that name in our diocese. Goodbye."

[Sithara007]

Am I reading the post right,he will retain his priesthood and will be transfer to a new church?this is crazy he should be condemn to death the hiv infected children he raped are now suffering from almost a death sentence,I will not go to the church where he is preaching,he don't deserve to retain the priesthood

The biggest joke is that he will be able to afford the medications, while the poor little indigenous children will be asked to rely on prayer to cure their illness. Who is going to talk on behalf of these orphaned children?

[Buffer Overflow]

Perhaps children should not be allowed to visit Catholic priests without an accompanying adult.

Any responsible parent wouldn't let their children anywhere near a Catholic priest in the first place.
Even if they don't get physically raped, they are going to get mentally raped via brainwashing.

[crwth]

That seems to be one of the evilest things that hide behind the church and now that it is put into the spotlight, what do you recommend them on doing with that so called "priest"? Knowing the religion, they want to forgive and be merciful, and I think that's what they did but the wrong thing that I disagree with is that he still retains the priesthood that he has.

[Buffer Overflow]

what do you recommend them on doing with that so called "priest"?

Everyone is innocent before proven guilty, even pedophiles. So lets put him before a public jury, the same as everyone else would be.

[gondes21]

If he lives in Indonesia, I am dead sure that he will be castrated. 
Sad to hear that in Mexico, church have power more than government.
30 innocent children has to bare HIV??? WTF! 

[popcorn1]

Matthew 6:14-15
14 For if you forgive other people when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. 15 But if you do not forgive others their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.


Luke 17:3-4
3 So watch yourselves. “If your brother or sistersins against you, rebuke them; and if they repent, forgive them. 4 Even if they sin against you seven times in a day and seven times come back to you saying ‘I repent,’ you must forgive them.”

And this Luke dude gives you seven goes a day..
So if your a bad pedo pray to Luke ..well you could be going to hell..

I TOLD YOU RELIGION IS FOR CRAZIES.. .

WOW  7 goes a day ..No wonder the religious are bat shit crazy 7 goes a day they get ..

[Sithara007]

If he lives in Indonesia, I am dead sure that he will be castrated. 
Sad to hear that in Mexico, church have power more than government.
30 innocent children has to bare HIV??? WTF! 

Indonesia doesn't have a law to castrate the rapists. In fact, not a single country in the world does have such laws (I am talking about physical castration, and not about the ineffective chemical castration).

[merchantofzeny]

This is not an excuse for this pastor. How all these people can be forgiven. The bastard ruined the lives of so many children. I believe that people like him should not be forgiven and to be executed. The Pope I was very disappointed.

Here are the latest developments:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3799005/Catholic-Church-ACQUITS-Mexican-priest-admitted-raping-30-young-girls-knew-infected-HIV.html

I agree that this cleric must be punished, and probably castrated or emasculated. But now, lets think about the methods to be taken, to prevent a repetition of similar incidents in the future. Perhaps children should not be allowed to visit Catholic priests without an accompanying adult.

Frankly, friend. That would require draconic laws infringing both upon freedom of religion and personal freedom.

Perhaps the best prevention would be for Catholic Church to reform itself and abolish priest celibacy altogether (altough, that would for sure create rift among its billion plus followers with unforseen consequences...). It is centuries old, almost pagan custom, way that Catholic Clergy prevented possibility that any people could (as offspring of clerics) lay claim to property and estates of the institution. The obvious con of celibacy is that it turns small minority of priests into potential sexual predators...

Am I reading the post right,he will retain his priesthood and will be transfer to a new church?this is crazy he should be condemn to death the hiv infected children he raped are now suffering from almost a death sentence,I will not go to the church where he is preaching,he don't deserve to retain the priesthood

Yes, you are right. In fact, bible - unlike present day secular governments, explicitly prescripts death penalty for child rape, no common man nor priest exempt from that. In their attempt at damage control, institutions of Catholic Church are going against the very Book they swore to live by. Shameful and now that everything took place, there is no clean way out for anyone involved.

I think many Christian-majority nations took the first step to reforming the Church when they instituted Separation of Church and State. Though not necessarily making the Church any less influential, it did took away much of its temporal powers. Now add to that the need to compete in the free market of faith (people eventually becoming less religious, new imported religions, secularism, etc.) and the Church pretty much started to behave itself. I mean, they no longer burn heretics at the state after all, and they can't even if they want to.

I definitely agree with removing celibacy. Catholicism seem to be the only major sect that practice it. Orthodoxy pretty much did not implement it (at least, not the same way as Catholicism) and Protestantism got rid of it.

[joebrook]

I think even though the Church forgave him, the police should investigate and ensure that justice is ensured, No one is above of the law not even the Pope. The Government and even the Pope must ensure that it is.

[Lieldoryn]

I've never been to Mexico, but in my country there is a criminal liability not only for rape and pedophilia, but also for the fact that a person knowingly infected with AIDS from another person. As for indulgences from the Church, we do not live in the middle ages and it shouldn't be.

[Sithara007]

I think even though the Church forgave him, the police should investigate and ensure that justice is ensured, No one is above of the law not even the Pope. The Government and even the Pope must ensure that it is.

Not sure how the justice can be served, if the Pope decides to have fun with the coir boys. He is having his own country (Vatican), and no one can prosecute him even if he commits murder or rape.

[warrior333]

I think even though the Church forgave him, the police should investigate and ensure that justice is ensured, No one is above of the law not even the Pope. The Government and even the Pope must ensure that it is.

Not sure how the justice can be served, if the Pope decides to have fun with the coir boys. He is having his own country (Vatican), and no one can prosecute him even if he commits murder or rape.

Why, then, do people continue to believe in his Holiness? Why continue to believe in God if there is so much injustice and the Pope himself is an example of permissiveness? People are blind or stupid?

[Slow death]

This is the guy:



And the biggest joke is that this guy will be kept alive with the help of expensive anti-retrovirals from Vatican, while the 30 kids who got infected by him will slowly die as they have to rely on prayer and gospel to cure their HIV.

The biggest joke is the parents of the 30 children who do nothing. If it was my daughter you would find yourself dead in a pool of your own blood if you even tried to stop me. If I could get my hands on this guy I would tie his ankles to my rear bumper and drag him around town for a few hours. During Sunday mass.

Fuck religion.

I would do the same thing, these damn priests who do this deserve a cruel death...


What religion advocates are in this section have to say about it?

[Janation]

I think even though the Church forgave him, the police should investigate and ensure that justice is ensured, No one is above of the law not even the Pope. The Government and even the Pope must ensure that it is.

Not sure how the justice can be served, if the Pope decides to have fun with the coir boys. He is having his own country (Vatican), and no one can prosecute him even if he commits murder or rape.

This is the reason why religion, is segregated from government. But I don't think that these story is true, the government will not accept this, especially the parents of the kids. That is 30 kids contaminated with HIV, today there is no cure with it, do you think the parents of these kids will accept that just kike that, they will not.

[gabmen]

sadly, these kind of news are the ones that makes one think over what religion really is for. it makes one think that it is more often just being used by those who are in high offices to abuse their congregation. I don't have any qualms about the church being merciful but hey really? this bastard needs to be punished a bit more severely

[Sithara007]

I think even though the Church forgave him, the police should investigate and ensure that justice is ensured, No one is above of the law not even the Pope. The Government and even the Pope must ensure that it is.

Not sure how the justice can be served, if the Pope decides to have fun with the coir boys. He is having his own country (Vatican), and no one can prosecute him even if he commits murder or rape.

This is the reason why religion, is segregated from government. But I don't think that these story is true, the government will not accept this, especially the parents of the kids. That is 30 kids contaminated with HIV, today there is no cure with it, do you think the parents of these kids will accept that just kike that, they will not.

As I had pointed out earlier, the children were all indigenous and were from broken families or orphans. In addition to that, they were from the remote mountainous regions of the Oaxaca state. The state doesn't have much control over these areas.

[Lieldoryn]

The government always has influence on the situation in the country. You want to say that if the killer is hiding in the mountain village and the government knows his location is not arresting him? Of course, I've never been to Mexico, but it seems to me that this can not be. Want arrested.