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May 14, 2017, 08:31:03 AM
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Hey.
I was just wondering to myself, do you guys believe that online casinos are totally legit, or do you also believe that some of them are rigging outcomes.
One of the reason I prefer to bet on sports and not on dice games or at online casinos is that I can't actually know if the casino is paying me as they should, or they tell me that I lost while I was supposed to be a winner.

Does the small house edge(compared to sports betting) worth the chance of the casino rigging the outcomes, making you lose sometimes while you were supposed to be the winner?
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May 14, 2017, 09:15:16 AM
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Hey.
I was just wondering to myself, do you guys believe that online casinos are totally legit, or do you also believe that some of them are rigging outcomes.
One of the reason I prefer to bet on sports and not on dice games or at online casinos is that I can't actually know if the casino is paying me as they should, or they tell me that I lost while I was supposed to be a winner.

Does the small house edge(compared to sports betting) worth the chance of the casino rigging the outcomes, making you lose sometimes while you were supposed to be the winner?

Very wise thinking, i asked myself same question many times. Code creator can create system to be unfair, and can present fair code for review.
Yes it is always better to chose games where you can prove your victory, but this doesn't mean they will pay you. You can find here on this forum few examples of changing rules retroactively. Sports bets are more transparent!
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May 14, 2017, 10:22:15 AM
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Hey.
I was just wondering to myself, do you guys believe that online casinos are totally legit, or do you also believe that some of them are rigging outcomes.
One of the reason I prefer to bet on sports and not on dice games or at online casinos is that I can't actually know if the casino is paying me as they should, or they tell me that I lost while I was supposed to be a winner.

Does the small house edge(compared to sports betting) worth the chance of the casino rigging the outcomes, making you lose sometimes while you were supposed to be the winner?

Most online casinos that I see here and tried are legit. If I couldn't verify the bets that i've made I sometimes think that they could be changing the outcomes when I win too much. I don't think it's worth it for the casino owners to do this kind of thing because they know they could earn more in the long run without ruining their reputation.

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May 14, 2017, 10:34:00 AM
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Hey.
I was just wondering to myself, do you guys believe that online casinos are totally legit, or do you also believe that some of them are rigging outcomes.
One of the reason I prefer to bet on sports and not on dice games or at online casinos is that I can't actually know if the casino is paying me as they should, or they tell me that I lost while I was supposed to be a winner.

Does the small house edge(compared to sports betting) worth the chance of the casino rigging the outcomes, making you lose sometimes while you were supposed to be the winner?


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May 14, 2017, 10:53:10 AM
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Regular online casinos could well be scamming you.  However, if you understand and can verify the provably fair systems that Bitcoin casinos have, you can't be scammed unless the casino runs off with the money you're holding in them.  Modern Bitcoin casinos, as well as being very convenient, are therefore better in several ways to regular online casinos, as well as providing relative anonymity.

Provably fair systems are just one of many situations in which blockchain tech can completely change how we view verification and proof.

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May 14, 2017, 10:56:30 AM
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I understand your concern, most of the legit casino has a provably fair and can be tested, that is why reputation is very important when you choose the place to play, if you dont understand and dont like sport, you wont win anything because the odds is small and you dont know which one to bet
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May 14, 2017, 11:54:57 AM
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I understand your concern, most of the legit casino has a provably fair and can be tested, that is why reputation is very important when you choose the place to play, if you dont understand and dont like sport, you wont win anything because the odds is small and you dont know which one to bet
Yes sports gambling is not suited for if you are not interested in sports. You must understand the game rules and regulations and team performance and players form. If you know these things, then you are eligible to do sports betting. If you don't know this then better stay away from this sports betting it is not worth for you.
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May 14, 2017, 12:01:56 PM
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Hey.
I was just wondering to myself, do you guys believe that online casinos are totally legit, or do you also believe that some of them are rigging outcomes.
One of the reason I prefer to bet on sports and not on dice games or at online casinos is that I can't actually know if the casino is paying me as they should, or they tell me that I lost while I was supposed to be a winner.

Does the small house edge(compared to sports betting) worth the chance of the casino rigging the outcomes, making you lose sometimes while you were supposed to be the winner?

Very wise thinking, i asked myself same question many times. Code creator can create system to be unfair, and can present fair code for review.
Yes it is always better to chose games where you can prove your victory, but this doesn't mean they will pay you. You can find here on this forum few examples of changing rules retroactively. Sports bets are more transparent!
Thats why i really prefer on playing sports betting because i can somehow see the transparency of a certain  game and certain bet. Its still possible on dice game because we can do able to see the hashes been generated every each roll. getting rigged or cheated is always possible thats why whe should really be keen on selecting sites we do play on.
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May 14, 2017, 12:05:46 PM
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Hey.
I was just wondering to myself, do you guys believe that online casinos are totally legit, or do you also believe that some of them are rigging outcomes.
One of the reason I prefer to bet on sports and not on dice games or at online casinos is that I can't actually know if the casino is paying me as they should, or they tell me that I lost while I was supposed to be a winner.

Does the small house edge(compared to sports betting) worth the chance of the casino rigging the outcomes, making you lose sometimes while you were supposed to be the winner?


I am not a person who understands how a gambling system works especially those associated with provably fair. But I'm sure there are a lot of people out there who really understand about it and surely if anything goes wrong with the system which casinos offer, surely these people will let us know in various ways. For me, trust is absolutely necessary if we want to engage in online gambling.

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May 14, 2017, 12:24:05 PM
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Hey.
I was just wondering to myself, do you guys believe that online casinos are totally legit, or do you also believe that some of them are rigging outcomes.
One of the reason I prefer to bet on sports and not on dice games or at online casinos is that I can't actually know if the casino is paying me as they should, or they tell me that I lost while I was supposed to be a winner.

Does the small house edge(compared to sports betting) worth the chance of the casino rigging the outcomes, making you lose sometimes while you were supposed to be the winner?

there is nothing out there more fair than dice and easier to prove its fairness. and i believe you think the way you do because you don't understand how the provably fair system works, i have to admit it is a little complicated at first but when you learn it you'll understand what i mean.

and compared to that other games can be manipulated so much easier and they can easily be rigged. for example a rigged poker game where the house sees your hand, a rigged boxing match where the guy loses on purpose,...

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May 14, 2017, 12:59:11 PM
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The only thing here is TRUST. You must absolutely trust necessary if we want to engage in online gambling. And if it's true that casino is not fair? The experienced person know it already if it's happened. So, don't think about it. If it's legit or not. Just try your luck in playing casino or dice gambling or betting. The more spin the more chances of winning.
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May 14, 2017, 05:40:56 PM
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Hey.
I was just wondering to myself, do you guys believe that online casinos are totally legit, or do you also believe that some of them are rigging outcomes.
One of the reason I prefer to bet on sports and not on dice games or at online casinos is that I can't actually know if the casino is paying me as they should, or they tell me that I lost while I was supposed to be a winner.

Does the small house edge(compared to sports betting) worth the chance of the casino rigging the outcomes, making you lose sometimes while you were supposed to be the winner?


I am not a person who understands how a gambling system works especially those associated with provably fair. But I'm sure there are a lot of people out there who really understand about it and surely if anything goes wrong with the system which casinos offer, surely these people will let us know in various ways. For me, trust is absolutely necessary if we want to engage in online gambling.

Yes many players will keep on watching casino offers bonus and other things from casinos. And they will inform if any issues they found in a casino. I also not understand this gambling how exactly it will work. But most of them are fair enough. And your final word is 100% correct trust is must necessary if we want to engage online gambling.
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May 14, 2017, 05:48:37 PM
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I agree with the above posters that the provably fair system has been doing a great job. Nowadays when you choose an established casino you have not much to worry about. The only thing that can go wrong beside you losing a fair bet is a casino going bust or being closed by the government or hacked.
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May 14, 2017, 07:14:37 PM
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Hey.
I was just wondering to myself, do you guys believe that online casinos are totally legit, or do you also believe that some of them are rigging outcomes.
One of the reason I prefer to bet on sports and not on dice games or at online casinos is that I can't actually know if the casino is paying me as they should, or they tell me that I lost while I was supposed to be a winner.

Does the small house edge(compared to sports betting) worth the chance of the casino rigging the outcomes, making you lose sometimes while you were supposed to be the winner?

The sites i play on are legit and i trust them, most of them are over 2 years old and have paid out huge wins to several gamblers.


Hufflepuff is proof of the provably fair system working. If we cheated his rolls he would not have been able to profit 2400+ coins over months. Don't make accusations Lain on something you do not understand and are unwilling to spend time learning about. For the most part 'provably fair' is a sham with how most casinos are using it but Primedice and other dice sites use strong provably fair which can be properly verified and thus trusted.
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May 14, 2017, 07:16:22 PM
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Hey.
I was just wondering to myself, do you guys believe that online casinos are totally legit, or do you also believe that some of them are rigging outcomes.
One of the reason I prefer to bet on sports and not on dice games or at online casinos is that I can't actually know if the casino is paying me as they should, or they tell me that I lost while I was supposed to be a winner.

Does the small house edge(compared to sports betting) worth the chance of the casino rigging the outcomes, making you lose sometimes while you were supposed to be the winner?


I believe reputable Casinos are provably fair.  They have the hashes of every roll and i think you can validate them.  And how would you say you are a winner when a lose flashes in our screen?  If you are doubtful about it, get the hash result of the roll and validate it.  That way you can see if they are fair.  Aside from that most of the reputable casino games are bought from some companies, I think the code were audited to see if it is provably fair or not.  Aside from that there are coders around that can check or crack whether the game is rigged or not.

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May 15, 2017, 05:08:21 AM
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Hey.
I was just wondering to myself, do you guys believe that online casinos are totally legit, or do you also believe that some of them are rigging outcomes.
One of the reason I prefer to bet on sports and not on dice games or at online casinos is that I can't actually know if the casino is paying me as they should, or they tell me that I lost while I was supposed to be a winner.

Does the small house edge(compared to sports betting) worth the chance of the casino rigging the outcomes, making you lose sometimes while you were supposed to be the winner?


i think that all forms of gambling have the possibility for the outcomes to be strategized to insure the gambler loses even if he should have won.
its the price you pay for gambling... you shouldn't ever trust anything that says WIN BIG! no matter how hardcore legitimate it seems there will always be a croaking backdoor just out of sight. but gambling is fun and addicting to others so thats not gonna be enough to stop people from making bets.

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May 15, 2017, 05:21:05 AM
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The only thing here is TRUST. You must absolutely trust necessary if we want to engage in online gambling. And if it's true that casino is not fair? The experienced person know it already if it's happened. So, don't think about it. If it's legit or not. Just try your luck in playing casino or dice gambling or betting. The more spin the more chances of winning.

how could you find your luck when the game itself rigged? that is what we should asking about i guess. math far more honest than us , human. it will never lie but human doing it frequently. provably fair are really legit work to make the outcome as fair as possible .

the problem only when you guys always feel cheated when got a loss , but feel nothing when you won huge amount, isn't it fair enough? i don't think so.

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Before gambling site launched they made a program to make sure every roll you made is fair and not rigged (simple way, they have coded everything before) unless people controlling your bet and pretending you're a loser while you supposed to be a winner.

The most important thing is Trust, would be better to throw your money to reputable Casino dice games out there.

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May 15, 2017, 09:39:53 AM
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Before gambling site launched they made a program to make sure every roll you made is fair and not rigged (simple way, they have coded everything before) unless people controlling your bet and pretending you're a loser while you supposed to be a winner.

The most important thing is Trust, would be better to throw your money to reputable Casino dice games out there.
When you playing dice which is my favorite, and if it is on "auto mode" 100% increase on loss , with win chances 49.50. Then your chances are pretty high. How then can happen 15 losses in a row,( i had even more) Huh..This is why is important to change game rhythm, or even stop after a while. Few times i have luck to gain even 1000x profit after few days and thousands of turns,  every time result is the same if you don't stop game by yourself.
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May 15, 2017, 10:51:23 AM
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Before gambling site launched they made a program to make sure every roll you made is fair and not rigged (simple way, they have coded everything before) unless people controlling your bet and pretending you're a loser while you supposed to be a winner.

The most important thing is Trust, would be better to throw your money to reputable Casino dice games out there.
When you playing dice which is my favorite, and if it is on "auto mode" 100% increase on loss , with win chances 49.50. Then your chances are pretty high. How then can happen 15 losses in a row,( i had even more) Huh..This is why is important to change game rhythm, or even stop after a while. Few times i have luck to gain even 1000x profit after few days and thousands of turns,  every time result is the same if you don't stop game by yourself.
wow you are a lucky man mate winning x1000 with your bankroll i think every single house which already been in the business for some time
they already established relationship and already gain trust and i think that what is needed.

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