Why are rich countries rich and poor countries poor?

[Joshua101101]

Much depends on the government. Where rulers care only about themselves in the country there will always be disorder and poverty.

[Okurkabinladin]

Race makes all the difference. Race and behavior.

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You mean IQ  

There are indeed some differences between various ethnic groups. But culture (religion), politics and work ethics are just as important.

North Koreans are of same race as South Koreans but they are not economically close at all. In Europe, both Czechs and Ukrainians are part of Slavic group, the former are economically and ethically close to Germans. The latter to subsaharan Africa.

So there, buddy. Race is not everything, just small piece in overall mosaic.

[bryant.coleman]

North Koreans are of same race as South Koreans but they are not economically close at all. In Europe, both Czechs and Ukrainians are part of Slavic group, the former are economically and ethically close to Germans. The latter to subsaharan Africa.

So there, buddy. Race is not everything, just small piece in overall mosaic.

North Koreans don't have the avenues to prove their talent, as they are being ruled by a lunatic schizophrenic. The North Korean defectors, who have settled down in Seoul are as intelligent as their Southern brothers. And the difference between the Czechs and the Ukrainians might have more to do with the Soviet rule. Czechs were under German rule for so long, while Ukraine was ruled by the communists.

[Okurkabinladin]

North Koreans are of same race as South Koreans but they are not economically close at all. In Europe, both Czechs and Ukrainians are part of Slavic group, the former are economically and ethically close to Germans. The latter to subsaharan Africa.

So there, buddy. Race is not everything, just small piece in overall mosaic.

North Koreans don't have the avenues to prove their talent, as they are being ruled by a lunatic schizophrenic. The North Korean defectors, who have settled down in Seoul are as intelligent as their Southern brothers. And the difference between the Czechs and the Ukrainians might have more to do with the Soviet rule. Czechs were under German rule for so long, while Ukraine was ruled by the communists.

Czechs were ruled by communists too as were eastern Germans. I am telling you, that culture, politics and yes even genes present all small pieces of larger mosaics. There is no SINGLE attribute responsible for wealth of nation.

Unless you are Saudi and were born atop of oil field.

[Mometaskers]

North Koreans are of same race as South Koreans but they are not economically close at all. In Europe, both Czechs and Ukrainians are part of Slavic group, the former are economically and ethically close to Germans. The latter to subsaharan Africa.

So there, buddy. Race is not everything, just small piece in overall mosaic.

North Koreans don't have the avenues to prove their talent, as they are being ruled by a lunatic schizophrenic. The North Korean defectors, who have settled down in Seoul are as intelligent as their Southern brothers. And the difference between the Czechs and the Ukrainians might have more to do with the Soviet rule. Czechs were under German rule for so long, while Ukraine was ruled by the communists.

Czechs were ruled by communists too as were eastern Germans. I am telling you, that culture, politics and yes even genes present all small pieces of larger mosaics. There is no SINGLE attribute responsible for wealth of nation.

Unless you are Saudi and were born atop of oil field.

Nah, screw them and their oil. They're still heavily reliant on labor from third world countries and expertise from first world countries. From what I'm hearing from people who worked there, they've become so lazy that they'd have "positions" in companies but have someone else do the actual job for them. Imagine a manager not actually managing anything.

The funny thing is that it was the subsidies that did this. Once it is no longer possible to keep subsidizing stuff, the situation can quickly turn. It is wealth without a solid foundation.

[NJB18]

Of course the citizens are partly to blame. It is not all about fate. They need to think, innovate, act together as a people not as a divided group. Fate in a way because there are other countries that are actually poor in natural resources. But as a country aware of it, they should think of a way out.

But a more important point here is that the world is fast becoming a single community. Globalization is the existing idea. When a single impoverished country falters time and again, the rest of the world, especially the rich and powerful ones are partly to blame. The rich countries may actually pool together resources to save those that are experiencing too much hardship as a country.

Sadly, greed rules.

[bryant.coleman]

Nah, screw them and their oil. They're still heavily reliant on labor from third world countries and expertise from first world countries. From what I'm hearing from people who worked there, they've become so lazy that they'd have "positions" in companies but have someone else do the actual job for them. Imagine a manager not actually managing anything.

The funny thing is that it was the subsidies that did this. Once it is no longer possible to keep subsidizing stuff, the situation can quickly turn. It is wealth without a solid foundation.

I don't know for how long they will be able to continue like this. The oil prices are not high enough to meet the budgetary expenses, and the sovereign wealth fund is shrinking in size ever since 2011. On top of that, they are waging a very expensive war in Yemen, which is costing a lot in terms of finances and manpower. If the Aramco IPO flops, then that will be the end of Saudi Arabia as an united monarchy.

[merchantofzeny]

Nah, screw them and their oil. They're still heavily reliant on labor from third world countries and expertise from first world countries. From what I'm hearing from people who worked there, they've become so lazy that they'd have "positions" in companies but have someone else do the actual job for them. Imagine a manager not actually managing anything.

The funny thing is that it was the subsidies that did this. Once it is no longer possible to keep subsidizing stuff, the situation can quickly turn. It is wealth without a solid foundation.

I don't know for how long they will be able to continue like this. The oil prices are not high enough to meet the budgetary expenses, and the sovereign wealth fund is shrinking in size ever since 2011. On top of that, they are waging a very expensive war in Yemen, which is costing a lot in terms of finances and manpower. If the Aramco IPO flops, then that will be the end of Saudi Arabia as an united monarchy.

Heard somewhere that Saudi Arabia would be bankrupt by around 2020 if this trend continues. They could of course always cut back on subsidies but we know how well that goes.  Just look at Greece and how austerity measures were warmly accepted by the citizens.

To add to this, the conflict with Qatar as well as internal struggles within the monarchy (the king has replaced his nephew with his son as successor, angering many in the family) and the country would become even more unstable.

[RastMan]

Because poor countries are full of corrupt leaders, in Africa they sell gold mines for $ 50,000 in cash.
In Central Asia they sell sand deserts for crumbs instead of exploiting them and taking all the profits. So wealth is poorly distributed.
Poor countries have taken the lead in this situation.

[Paid Piper]

Because poor countries are full of corrupt leaders, in Africa they sell gold mines for $ 50,000 in cash.
In Central Asia they sell sand deserts for crumbs instead of exploiting them and taking all the profits. So wealth is poorly distributed.
Poor countries have taken the lead in this situation.

i think your government is also responsible for that, if you government is corrupt then they will give more chances to the elite classes who have more money, they will never give preference to merit. which is one of the most important element for giving equal right to every one.

[Xester]

Because poor countries are full of corrupt leaders, in Africa they sell gold mines for $ 50,000 in cash.
In Central Asia they sell sand deserts for crumbs instead of exploiting them and taking all the profits. So wealth is poorly distributed.
Poor countries have taken the lead in this situation.

Very accurate.  Poor countries are lead by selfish leaders who only wants to keep their pockets full.  The resources which th3 country have is being used by certain people.  Instead of benefiting the entire country the selfish leader only thinks on how many money will he have after his leaderships end.

[Tazmo]

CIA keeps it that way

[Sithara007]

Because poor countries are full of corrupt leaders, in Africa they sell gold mines for $ 50,000 in cash.
In Central Asia they sell sand deserts for crumbs instead of exploiting them and taking all the profits. So wealth is poorly distributed.
Poor countries have taken the lead in this situation.

In most of the cases, the poor countries don't have the capability or technology to exploit the natural resources. What they will do with the gold mines, if they don't have the technology to extract gold? That is one of the reasons why they auction them to the highest bidder. But at the same time, this auction process is rigged most of the times.

[Okurkabinladin]

Of course the citizens are partly to blame. It is not all about fate. They need to think, innovate, act together as a people not as a divided group. Fate in a way because there are other countries that are actually poor in natural resources. But as a country aware of it, they should think of a way out.

But a more important point here is that the world is fast becoming a single community. Globalization is the existing idea. When a single impoverished country falters time and again, the rest of the world, especially the rich and powerful ones are partly to blame. The rich countries may actually pool together resources to save those that are experiencing too much hardship as a country.

Sadly, greed rules.

Can you send me your bitcoin? I think I am poor in this single global community 

On a serious note, globalization doesnt mean equality, quite the opposite. When people stuck in 13th century compete against people from 21st century, who will that go down, buddy? Not to even mention genetic differences between various tribes and cultures. But they do compete.

Africans outbreed people from any other continent, but are unable to compete economically.

Muslims outbreed seculars, yet will hate them for being rich even without knowing Allah.

Globalization did not bring peace like Fukuyama promised, rather it highlighted the many differences between human beings in all over the world.

[bryant.coleman]

Africans outbreed people from any other continent, but are unable to compete economically.

Muslims outbreed seculars, yet will hate them for being rich even without knowing Allah.

In democratic societies, demography is the most important thing. Look at European regions such as Kosovo and Bosnia. These regions were historically Orthodox Christian homelands. Now they have become Muslim majority, through demographic Jihad. The natives tried to resist this change through warfare (Bosnian war of 1992-95, and Kosovan war of 1999), but the pro-Muslim NATO alliance defeated them militarily. Now the cancer is spreading to the neighboring regions. Macedonia is expected to become Muslim majority by 2030. After that it will be Montenegro.

[Okurkabinladin]

Africans outbreed people from any other continent, but are unable to compete economically.

Muslims outbreed seculars, yet will hate them for being rich even without knowing Allah.

In democratic societies, demography is the most important thing. Look at European regions such as Kosovo and Bosnia. These regions were historically Orthodox Christian homelands. Now they have become Muslim majority, through demographic Jihad. The natives tried to resist this change through warfare (Bosnian war of 1992-95, and Kosovan war of 1999), but the pro-Muslim NATO alliance defeated them militarily. Now the cancer is spreading to the neighboring regions. Macedonia is expected to become Muslim majority by 2030. After that it will be Montenegro.

Balkan is not really western and never was. Muslims were only able to gain upper hand in both Kosovo and Bosnia through military intervention of NATO, which wanted to weaken russian influence in the region regardless the long term consequences.

So, I am not all that concerned about people of Balkans, they were through worse and lived through it.

But for secular westerners, who dont know anything about religious wars? In 1970 there were about 5000 muslims in Sweden. Or 0.01 of population. Today there is 700 000. Swedes tell muslims, that they want to talk with them, but muslims want to talk about God and Swedes dont have any. Or French or Germans. Any of these people, who left their roots and are confronted now with inreasingly large cohorts of migrants, who see this as part of ongoing religious and cultural war.

You dont want go to a gun fight without a gun. And you dont want to be part of religous conflict with no God. Just a thought.

[bryant.coleman]

You dont want go to a gun fight without a gun. And you dont want to be part of religous conflict with no God. Just a thought.

It is quite possible to remain as an atheist (I am one myself) and take part in the religious war. Look at China. They are officially atheist, and they have achieved something which none of the western nations have achieved so far. The Chinese have successfully integrated their Muslim population in to mainstream. No other Christian, Hindu or Buddhist nation has achieved what they have achieved.

[Okurkabinladin]

You dont want go to a gun fight without a gun. And you dont want to be part of religous conflict with no God. Just a thought.

It is quite possible to remain as an atheist (I am one myself) and take part in the religious war. Look at China. They are officially atheist, and they have achieved something which none of the western nations have achieved so far. The Chinese have successfully integrated their Muslim population in to mainstream. No other Christian, Hindu or Buddhist nation has achieved what they have achieved.

All western nations are officially secular as are islamic states such as Turkey, Bryant  I am not going into the fact, there are more evangelical christian Chinese than communist party members these days.

What you fail to realize is that Russia and China is integrating its "native" muslim population. Tatars and Chechens in Russia, Uyghurs in China. They are not immigrant brought be globalist loonies, they have roots in their countries and so dont treat them like conquerors.

Why dont Chinese and Russians import millions of foreign workers? Because they are not globalist. Their value system were shaped by their traditional faith, not by postmodernism.

[Mometaskers]

Nah, screw them and their oil. They're still heavily reliant on labor from third world countries and expertise from first world countries. From what I'm hearing from people who worked there, they've become so lazy that they'd have "positions" in companies but have someone else do the actual job for them. Imagine a manager not actually managing anything.

The funny thing is that it was the subsidies that did this. Once it is no longer possible to keep subsidizing stuff, the situation can quickly turn. It is wealth without a solid foundation.

I don't know for how long they will be able to continue like this. The oil prices are not high enough to meet the budgetary expenses, and the sovereign wealth fund is shrinking in size ever since 2011. On top of that, they are waging a very expensive war in Yemen, which is costing a lot in terms of finances and manpower. If the Aramco IPO flops, then that will be the end of Saudi Arabia as an united monarchy.

Are they really that desperate for cash that everything rests on the IPO? Well, regardless, they can only keep pushing back the inevitable for so long. Just like when the dues finally catch up when you keep on borrowing money (Hello Puerto Rico), spending earnings irresponsibly will catch up when you run out of money.

What would be KSA without oil? Dubai at least have tourism to fall back on, can you imagine Western women going on a beach in KSA without having to wear a burkini? Even the "build it and they will come" policy don't seem to work. KSA has built large malls but so far tourists are not flocking there, like they would go to Dubai to shop during vacations.

[Palmerson]

Africans outbreed people from any other continent, but are unable to compete economically.

Muslims outbreed seculars, yet will hate them for being rich even without knowing Allah.

In democratic societies, demography is the most important thing. Look at European regions such as Kosovo and Bosnia. These regions were historically Orthodox Christian homelands. Now they have become Muslim majority, through demographic Jihad. The natives tried to resist this change through warfare (Bosnian war of 1992-95, and Kosovan war of 1999), but the pro-Muslim NATO alliance defeated them militarily. Now the cancer is spreading to the neighboring regions. Macedonia is expected to become Muslim majority by 2030. After that it will be Montenegro.

Muslim creeping expansion underway across Europe. You can see how in all European countries gradually appear in whole areas of compact residence of Muslims. Eastern European countries see this and put obstacles to it. Perhaps Western Europe is also understood.