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They also found the backdoor on the virus so maybe not all of the infected individuals or institution paid any ransom to the hacker. Or maybe they just totally do a full re-install of the infected pc's because they don't want to pay ransom money. I think with this kind of malicious intent, the general public now will be very vigilant and will not click on any link they see on the internet.
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May 15, 2017, 06:44:35 PM |
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For coins a hard wallet or a paper wallet is a must. Papers with random numbers are easy to hide around no one would search. Hard drives can have hardware failures too, so even them are not totally safe, specially when there are physical solutions, like paper wallets
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May 15, 2017, 06:53:53 PM |
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Wow I don't know if 50k$ was worth taking that risk. Now those btc addresses will be blacklisted forever and on the top that, he is going to be tailed forever by CIA & FBI & Mossad & KGB & SIS & BND & Interpol and any other secret sevice there is.
He (or that group) made himself a public enemy only for 50k$. fckd.
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May 15, 2017, 08:16:34 PM |
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Maybe most people have figured out that there is no use in paying because the program doesn't know who has paid.
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May 15, 2017, 08:25:52 PM |
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Does anyone know the btc address this money is being collected in? I'd like to take a look.
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Let's hope 2017 is better than 2016.
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May 15, 2017, 08:36:27 PM |
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Does anyone know the btc address this money is being collected in? I'd like to take a look.
There are three known addresses, which are coded into the software so they're mostly likely the only ones that they have. Address 1: 12t9YDPgwueZ9NyMgw519p7AA8isjr6SMw Address 2: 13AM4VW2dhxYgXeQepoHkHSQuy6NgaEb94 Address 3: 115p7UMMngoj1pMvkpHijcRdfJNXj6LrLn Fortunately, it seems like most institutions and even individuals will have regular backups.
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May 15, 2017, 08:36:37 PM |
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Maybe most people have figured out that there is no use in paying because the program doesn't know who has paid.
Paying a bunch of criminals is no solution. If you pay them once, you will give them incentive to continue doing so. Plus you don't know if your files will really be decrypted after paying. Only solution is to either professionally have the systems 'cleaned', or they need to be wiped out and a back up being installed. I am quite happy that the number of paid ransom is severely lacking if you take the size of this attack into consideration.
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May 15, 2017, 08:42:03 PM |
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They also found the backdoor on the virus so maybe not all of the infected individuals or institution paid any ransom to the hacker. Or maybe they just totally do a full re-install of the infected pc's because they don't want to pay ransom money. I think with this kind of malicious intent, the general public now will be very vigilant and will not click on any link they see on the internet.
They don't need to click on suspicious links to be susceptible to the virus. The virus can infect basically any computer that hasn't downloaded the Windows patch MS17-010 from a couple of months ago. The lesson is, update and back up often.
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May 15, 2017, 08:47:33 PM |
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Maybe most people have figured out that there is no use in paying because the program doesn't know who has paid.
Paying a bunch of criminals is no solution. If you pay them once, you will give them incentive to continue doing so. Plus you don't know if your files will really be decrypted after paying. Only solution is to either professionally have the systems 'cleaned', or they need to be wiped out and a back up being installed. I am quite happy that the number of paid ransom is severely lacking if you take the size of this attack into consideration. I also believe that just by paying the Ransome the problem will not be solved we to find another solution or else we should all be in a big mess
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May 15, 2017, 10:43:59 PM |
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Paying a bunch of criminals is no solution. If you pay them once, you will give them incentive to continue doing so. Plus you don't know if your files will really be decrypted after paying. As I said, in this case we know that the files won't be decrypted even if you pay. Infections created by more professional criminals will frequently release the files if you pay.
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May 16, 2017, 05:47:26 AM |
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Paying a bunch of criminals is no solution. If you pay them once, you will give them incentive to continue doing so. Plus you don't know if your files will really be decrypted after paying. As I said, in this case we know that the files won't be decrypted even if you pay. Infections created by more professional criminals will frequently release the files if you pay. Some have no other way - they have to pay. Special. If the computer on which all information for work is stored is infected. The guide will not understand your explanations that the computer is infected. They need the result
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May 16, 2017, 06:38:44 AM |
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Some have no other way - they have to pay. Special. If the computer on which all information for work is stored is infected. The guide will not understand your explanations that the computer is infected. They need the result
Paying is not a solution as mentioned before. I understand that it might feel like you have no other option, but look at it from this point -> If you have been willing to pay once, why wouldn't you pay for a second time? Perhaps for a third time? Those that are desperate enough and end up paying, have important files to safe, and exactly that puts them in a very easy to extort position.
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Qartada
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May 16, 2017, 06:52:33 AM |
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Some have no other way - they have to pay. Special. If the computer on which all information for work is stored is infected. The guide will not understand your explanations that the computer is infected. They need the result
Paying is not a solution as mentioned before. I understand that it might feel like you have no other option, but look at it from this point -> If you have been willing to pay once, why wouldn't you pay for a second time? Perhaps for a third time? Those that are desperate enough and end up paying, have important files to safe, and exactly that puts them in a very easy to extort position. Well hackers do tend to actually decrypt your files after you've paid the ransom, simply because if they didn't do it then no one would pay in the future. So think of it this way. If I hack someone's computer and they have no recent backups, they will pay the ransom. After they've paid the ransom, what's the first thing that they're going to do? Backup their files, obviously. Lessons can be learned and then they don't have to deal with paying ransoms in the future. All that matters is that they learn from the experience, so they wouldn't pay it a second time, or a third time, or a fourth time.
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May 16, 2017, 08:05:54 AM |
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Some have no other way - they have to pay. Special. If the computer on which all information for work is stored is infected. The guide will not understand your explanations that the computer is infected. They need the result
I'm not sure if you understand what I'm writing, because what you write doesn't make much sense. Sure some people are paying (we can see that from the three bitcoin addresses the program uses), but there is no use in doing so. The files won't be decrypted no matter what they do because this particular ransomware is too badly written to understand that they have paid.
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May 16, 2017, 11:17:15 AM |
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Maybe most people have figured out that there is no use in paying because the program doesn't know who has paid.
Paying a bunch of criminals is no solution. If you pay them once, you will give them incentive to continue doing so. Plus you don't know if your files will really be decrypted after paying. Only solution is to either professionally have the systems 'cleaned', or they need to be wiped out and a back up being installed. I am quite happy that the number of paid ransom is severely lacking if you take the size of this attack into consideration. I also believe that just by paying the Ransome the problem will not be solved we to find another solution or else we should all be in a big mess press reports that no data has been decrypted successfully,so there is no reason to pay at all another solution is to find who is behind the attack,I'm sure it would be connected to the US agencies but I would not be surprised if they blame Russia yet again,find a "secret hacker group" with "wink.wink" connections to russians even if it is just the name of the group and nothing else
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May 16, 2017, 12:15:49 PM |
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Wow I don't know if 50k$ was worth taking that risk.
In which ever scenario you look at it the did get away with it so it was a low risk job unless the culprits were found Now those btc addresses will be blacklisted forever and on the top that, he is going to be tailed forever by CIA & FBI & Mossad & KGB & SIS & BND & Interpol and any other secret sevice there is.
Is blacklisting an address even possible.... because i know its easy to track the transaction on the blockchain unless if they do use a mixing service to cover their tracks. He (or that group) made himself a public enemy only for 50k$. fckd.
The magnitude of the attack could only be carried out by a group of people looking at how much resources we needed
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May 16, 2017, 03:20:27 PM |
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Maybe most people have figured out that there is no use in paying because the program doesn't know who has paid.
Paying a bunch of criminals is no solution. If you pay them once, you will give them incentive to continue doing so. Plus you don't know if your files will really be decrypted after paying. Only solution is to either professionally have the systems 'cleaned', or they need to be wiped out and a back up being installed. I am quite happy that the number of paid ransom is severely lacking if you take the size of this attack into consideration. You do not trust the criminal? There is a solution - In the future, malware will have smart contracts. You can be sure that your files will be decrypted once you pay the ransom. The only way to transact with an untrustworthy person.
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May 16, 2017, 04:57:50 PM |
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This is, and has, spawned a whole bunch of copycats.
Its like lighting a single tree in a forest on fire, and letting it all catch and burn. There are no real costs to distributing it, you just need to infect a few well-connected machines and you're golden. One variant was even infecting people and mining Monero, lol.
This is just like anything else on the internet, once it is released the technique will be used over and over until it has effectively been patched out of existence.
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