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July 31, 2017, 02:44:49 AM
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I tried to install an Electrum wallet on my computer and Norton antivirus said it is unsafe and removed it.  wonderful!!

If I were you, I would uninstall Norton instead   Roll Eyes
 
  Norton said "it only has 5 customers using it so it is unsafe."  what is wrong with me being #6?

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July 31, 2017, 03:08:48 AM
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I tried to install an Electrum wallet on my computer and Norton antivirus said it is unsafe and removed it.  wonderful!!

If I were you, I would uninstall Norton instead   Roll Eyes
 
  Norton said "it only has 5 customers using it so it is unsafe."  what is wrong with me being #6?


Hundreds of thousands of people use Electrum everyday. And it is OPEN SOURCE. It is not a malware. Are you sure you downloaded it from their official site?

Maybe NORTON has only 5 people using it.   Roll Eyes

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July 31, 2017, 03:09:49 AM
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Norton said "it only has 5 customers using it so it is unsafe."  what is wrong with me being #6?
Nothing, IF you downloaded Electrum from here: https://electrum.org/#download

Because Electrum contains some functions involving encryption... (which is something a lot of viruses and trojans do to try and prevent detection/removal) it is quite common for antivirus software to generate a "false positive"... Antivirus software isn't always 100% accurate (and Norton certainly isn't close to being the best either. Roll Eyes)

There are a lot more than 5 people using Electrum... there are thousands if not hundreds of thousands... if there was a problem, we'd all know about it!

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August 02, 2017, 06:49:37 AM
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This is the the thread I just needed!

Like op I'm also strugling with an old Multibit wallet created back in 2013 when I first bought my bitcoin. As a holder I kept my btc safe in a pendrive but  recently I tryied to move them back to Multibit  0.4 and it didn't work. I have my prvtkeys and public adress. Is this enough? Can someone help me


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August 02, 2017, 07:51:45 AM
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This is the the thread I just needed!

Like op I'm also strugling with an old Multibit wallet created back in 2013 when I first bought my bitcoin. As a holder I kept my btc safe in a pendrive but  recently I tryied to move them back to Multibit  0.4 and it didn't work. I have my prvtkeys and public adress. Is this enough? Can someone help me


If you have your private keys, there is nothing to be worried about. You have tons of wallet options to import your private keys (including my favorite Electrum) and it is damn simple.

But if you're planning to spend these coins, I would advice to wait for a few days because of the ongoing drama about the Bitcoin fork (BCC).

PS: And by the way, congrats! You got free BCC for each BTC you own  Cheesy

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August 02, 2017, 11:58:00 PM
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Thanks  Smiley. I'm quite happy with those BCC though I don't know what to do with them yet.

Meanwhile, I downloaded electrum and you're right, it's really simple. I chose the read-only wallet for now, because I can import the private keys later, right?

Electrum doesn't show the bcc tho, as I expected after reading somewhere it would. Well, I'll keep on reading the forum till I find out or get the answer from smarter people with an infinite patience  Smiley

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August 03, 2017, 01:46:28 AM
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Electrum is not (and probably will not be) compatible with BCC (unless ThomasV makes some updates)... BCC changed the way transactions are created/signed to prevent people losing BTC due to what is known as a "replay attack"... BTC transactions are now no longer valid on BCC network... and BCC transactions are not valid on BTC network...

To get BCC, you need to use a BCC wallet.

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August 03, 2017, 09:49:19 PM
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Electrum is not (and probably will not be) compatible with BCC (unless ThomasV makes some updates)... BCC changed the way transactions are created/signed to prevent people losing BTC due to what is known as a "replay attack"... BTC transactions are now no longer valid on BCC network... and BCC transactions are not valid on BTC network...

To get BCC, you need to use a BCC wallet.

I saw it here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2040221.0 the site is now saying they have nothing to do with electrum but they confuse people by naming the wallet "electron".

If I'm geting this right, there's a few steps before using a bcc wallet because I don't have the bcc yet,  I have to send my btc to an exchange first and then get both btc and bcc back to 2 wallets.

Some people are buying hard wallets like treasure, because you can have both coins in there. Feeling very confused at the moment  Roll Eyes

Anyway, if you were to recommend a bcc wallet witch one is safer, in your view

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August 04, 2017, 07:43:27 AM
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Firstly... No, you don't need to send your BTC to an exchange. There are already BCC associated with the same private keys/addresses that you currently have for BTC.

The suggestion for moving coins is to protect your BTC. The idea being that you move all your BTC to a new wallet with new private keys... then use your OLD keys to import into a BCC wallet. This way, if the BCC wallet is "Bad"™... and sends your private keys out to "BadGuy"™, they can only steal your BCC as your BTC is now controlled by completely different private keys.

The issue with Electron Cash, is that while it is open source... they are distributing binaries that are basically signed by an "anonymous" user... as opposed to Electrum where ThomasV signs them under his actual real name.

So we can all see the Electron Cash source... and the modifications to it... and see that (aside from the porting bugs and the copying of Electrum wallet data by default) it doesn't do anything obviously nefarious... however, we can't see inside the binaries, which may or may not have been built from modified source code... and the "anonymous" digital signature is kinda worthless as there is no one putting their good (and real) name on the line as a sort of 'insurance' that it is all above board.

You can download the source and run from there... but it isn't quite as easy as just download and double click, so not really for your average computer user.

Honestly, I'd probably use BitcoinABC (requires syncing the whole blockchain) or ElectronCash (requires some trust or computer knowledge)... Other than that... I couldn't really say

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August 04, 2017, 11:54:34 PM
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Firstly... No, you don't need to send your BTC to an exchange. There are already BCC associated with the same private keys/addresses that you currently have for BTC.

The suggestion for moving coins is to protect your BTC. The idea being that you move all your BTC to a new wallet with new private keys... then use your OLD keys to import into a BCC wallet. This way, if the BCC wallet is "Bad"™... and sends your private keys out to "BadGuy"™, they can only steal your BCC as your BTC is now controlled by completely different private keys.

The issue with Electron Cash, is that while it is open source... they are distributing binaries that are basically signed by an "anonymous" user... as opposed to Electrum where ThomasV signs them under his actual real name.

So we can all see the Electron Cash source... and the modifications to it... and see that (aside from the porting bugs and the copying of Electrum wallet data by default) it doesn't do anything obviously nefarious... however, we can't see inside the binaries, which may or may not have been built from modified source code... and the "anonymous" digital signature is kinda worthless as there is no one putting their good (and real) name on the line as a sort of 'insurance' that it is all above board.

You can download the source and run from there... but it isn't quite as easy as just download and double click, so not really for your average computer user.

Honestly, I'd probably use BitcoinABC (requires syncing the whole blockchain) or ElectronCash (requires some trust or computer knowledge)... Other than that... I couldn't really say


Thanks HCP, I really appreciate your help.   Smiley

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August 13, 2017, 10:52:30 PM
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Did you get a chance to try the little util I coded up for you?

If so, did it manage to extract any addresses/keys from your wallet? If not, did you get any errors? Huh
I do get an error"com.google.bitcoin.store. unreadablewalletException could not read wallet".
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August 13, 2017, 11:39:30 PM
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I have 2 laptops should I try to load the bitcoin files into the wallets on those computers? one has classic and one has HD I think.  Thanks for your help. 

  I think the wallet I have been trying to load is messed up.  the help button doesn't show anything when you click on it. the Help contents is a blank page.
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August 14, 2017, 05:48:44 AM
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I do get an error"com.google.bitcoin.store. unreadablewalletException could not read wallet".
 done...
You got that error when you attempted to use my utility? I'm not sure how you got that from my Python script... when that is a java based error... hmmmm Huh

You downloaded this: https://github.com/HardCorePawn/extract_mbc_keys/raw/master/extract_mbc_keys.zip

Extracted it... ran the .exe file and selected your wallet file... and you got that error?

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August 14, 2017, 05:05:36 PM
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I do get an error"com.google.bitcoin.store. unreadablewalletException could not read wallet".
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You got that error when you attempted to use my utility? I'm not sure how you got that from my Python script... when that is a java based error... hmmmm Huh

You downloaded this: https://github.com/HardCorePawn/extract_mbc_keys/raw/master/extract_mbc_keys.zip

Extracted it... ran the .exe file and selected your wallet file... and you got that error?
  No. I get the error when I try to upload the backup file back in to the wallet.  I will try your utility today.   
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August 16, 2017, 07:26:48 PM
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I tried to install an Electrum wallet on my computer and Norton antivirus said it is unsafe and removed it.  wonderful!!

If I were you, I would uninstall Norton instead   Roll Eyes
 
  Norton said "it only has 5 customers using it so it is unsafe."  what is wrong with me being #6?


Now Norton said Electrum "is Safe".  Now I have an Electrum wallet!!!!
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September 08, 2017, 06:03:03 AM
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I tried to install an Electrum wallet on my computer and Norton antivirus said it is unsafe and removed it.  wonderful!!

If I were you, I would uninstall Norton instead   Roll Eyes
 
  Norton said "it only has 5 customers using it so it is unsafe."  what is wrong with me being #6?

Now Norton said Electrum "is Safe".  Now I have an Electrum wallet!!!!

Did you get your coins back?

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September 08, 2017, 07:29:24 AM
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Now Norton said Electrum "is Safe".  Now I have an Electrum wallet!!!!
Well... I guess we can call that "progress". Fingers crossed that the private keys you exported from the MultiBit wallet import OK into Electrum and your coins show up...


... I will try your utility today.
Speaking of... did you actually manage to run the utility? did you finally manage to get the keys exported from MultiBit Classic?

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November 01, 2017, 11:11:38 AM
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Hey Guys,

   Thank You! Thank You! Thank You!   With All Of Your Help and Patience with my Dumb ass.  

  I Got my part of a Bitcoin Back!!!  All .77492121 It don't look like much.  But for someone who lost my job of 4+ years 

 because some one is telling lies about me.  It is just the Prayer I really Needed right now.

  So Please Don't think you are wasting your time on here helping All OF Us Who Are Not as Smart as You Guys Are.

  I Say You are Doing God's Work!!  

  THANK YOU ALL!!  Randy
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November 01, 2017, 08:44:19 PM
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Good to hear you managed to get it all sorted mate! With current BTC prices, 0.77 BTC is a considerable amount of money!

Did you just "import" your private keys? Or did you "sweep" them into a full Electrum wallet that has "12 word recovery seed"?

Just wanting to make sure you understand the difference and especially the fact that if you imported them, you need to make sure you have a backup of the Electrum wallet file and/or the private keys themselves!

If you created an Electrum wallet with a 12 word seed, you just need to make sure you have those 12 words written down and stored safely offline!

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November 11, 2017, 06:20:29 PM
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Good to hear you managed to get it all sorted mate! With current BTC prices, 0.77 BTC is a considerable amount of money!

Did you just "import" your private keys? Or did you "sweep" them into a full Electrum wallet that has "12 word recovery seed"?

Just wanting to make sure you understand the difference and especially the fact that if you imported them, you need to make sure you have a backup of the Electrum wallet file and/or the private keys themselves!

If you created an Electrum wallet with a 12 word seed, you just need to make sure you have those 12 words written down and stored safely offline!

  I haven't done anything with it yet,  just recovered it and put a password on wallet.  now I'm trying to get the bitcoin cash thing done before i mess anything up by moving it. 

 some say to move bitcoin then use private key from 2014 to get the bitcoin cash.  so that is where I'm at. going to move to Electrum wallet.

Thank You for your Help!!
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