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May 18, 2017, 11:46:51 AM
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It is now obvious that the whole issue of Assad and the seran gas was false reporting, probably orchestrated by the deep state. Evidence seems to support the fact that Assad attacked a chlorine gas weapons manufacturing unit run by the Islamic State. It seems that Trump had to bow to pressure to take action, and thus the pantomime started. His action in ensuring that there were no Russian casualties probably averted a third world war.

Why isn't he being given credit for an inspired act of diplomacy in the face of the treasonous deep state media fake publicity?

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Trump was vilified by the US Media during the campaign period and they are still doing the same, and now that he has sidelined them they are crying foul. I knew that Assad didnt do those horrific acts, it must have been done by the US backed rebels fighting Assad.

 
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May 19, 2017, 12:00:44 AM
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It is now obvious that the whole issue of Assad and the seran gas was false reporting, probably orchestrated by the deep state. Evidence seems to support the fact that Assad attacked a chlorine gas weapons manufacturing unit run by the Islamic State. It seems that Trump had to bow to pressure to take action, and thus the pantomime started. His action in ensuring that there were no Russian casualties probably averted a third world war.

Why isn't he being given credit for an inspired act of diplomacy in the face of the treasonous deep state media fake publicity?
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May 19, 2017, 12:08:16 AM
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It is now obvious that the whole issue of Assad and the seran gas was false reporting, probably orchestrated by the deep state. Evidence seems to support the fact that Assad attacked a chlorine gas weapons manufacturing unit run by the Islamic State. It seems that Trump had to bow to pressure to take action, and thus the pantomime started. His action in ensuring that there were no Russian casualties probably averted a third world war.

Why isn't he being given credit for an inspired act of diplomacy in the face of the treasonous deep state media fake publicity?

The world goes from a generation or two ago, eastern european i.e., ussr vs western european i.e., usa, to the current world of local economies that works out for now like asian economies vs american and european economies. The longer old guard militants in the ussr and usa drag out the syria / isis / iran etc fictions, the more bumps for the world. There is no 'terrorism', there are only stupid people who create terrorists in the public imagination so they can keep their top jobs.
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May 19, 2017, 12:12:54 AM
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Trump's fault that he is constantly accused of having ties with Russia. Do not yet found evidence of his betrayal, but the fact that Trump and his team are constantly communicating with the Russian guards. Recently became aware of his conversations with the godfather of Putin during the election campaign. Soon Trump does not remain a trump in this game.
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May 19, 2017, 12:32:01 AM
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Trump's fault that he is constantly accused of having ties with Russia. Do not yet found evidence of his betrayal, but the fact that Trump and his team are constantly communicating with the Russian guards. Recently became aware of his conversations with the godfather of Putin during the election campaign. Soon Trump does not remain a trump in this game.

A generation ago contact with Russia would have been the end of a president. Two generations ago Germany 3 generations ago some other country.

Is Russia really an enemy of the united states? Or is it that some people don't like Putin?

Should us and russia be diametrically opposed, opposites in some political sphere? Or just their leaders?

It seems like the next big political step is outer space and countries either go in that direction or they get squished.

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May 19, 2017, 04:14:05 AM
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Trump's fault that he is constantly accused of having ties with Russia. Do not yet found evidence of his betrayal, but the fact that Trump and his team are constantly communicating with the Russian guards. Recently became aware of his conversations with the godfather of Putin during the election campaign. Soon Trump does not remain a trump in this game.

Maintaining good relations with a foreign nation can't be taken as a negative. Why some people want the US-Russian relations to remain in a deep-frozen state? In my opinion, Russia is not the number 1 enemy of the United States.

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May 19, 2017, 02:46:40 PM
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Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Uber and the like are the real enemies of the US. The drug companies are even worse with their poisonous vaccinations, and products like Tylenol that destroy people's health.

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Trump's fault that he is constantly accused of having ties with Russia. Do not yet found evidence of his betrayal, but the fact that Trump and his team are constantly communicating with the Russian guards. Recently became aware of his conversations with the godfather of Putin during the election campaign. Soon Trump does not remain a trump in this game.

Maintaining good relations with a foreign nation can't be taken as a negative. Why some people want the US-Russian relations to remain in a deep-frozen state? In my opinion, Russia is not the number 1 enemy of the United States.
Russian themselves to blame for the fact that they are considered enemy No. 1 for America. All Russian activity intended to harm America. What's in the Bible saying not by words but by deeds you need to watch.
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May 19, 2017, 03:17:45 PM
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It is now obvious that the whole issue of Assad and the seran gas was false reporting, probably orchestrated by the deep state. Evidence seems to support the fact that Assad attacked a chlorine gas weapons manufacturing unit run by the Islamic State. It seems that Trump had to bow to pressure to take action, and thus the pantomime started. His action in ensuring that there were no Russian casualties probably averted a third world war.

Why isn't he being given credit for an inspired act of diplomacy in the face of the treasonous deep state media fake publicity?

Really?
Can you share this news?
I didn't read it.
Do you have some concrete proofs?
I know that official investigation still didn't finish.
I think that Trump did the right thing and stopped Assad to kill even more innocent people in Syria.
His future is no so bright, in my opinion.

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Assad no prospects. Now his cover Russian because it is profitable for them and fully controlled, but as soon as the situation changes eliminate it as an unnecessary witness as it was with the President of Afghanistan when the Russians withdraw their troops.
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Assad no prospects. Now his cover Russian because it is profitable for them and fully controlled, but as soon as the situation changes eliminate it as an unnecessary witness as it was with the President of Afghanistan when the Russians withdraw their troops.

I don't know for how long Assad will manage to stay in power. But please remember that he is the last remaining secular leader in the entire Middle-eastern region. Once he is gone, the middle east will become a religious caliphate.

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May 20, 2017, 05:25:26 PM
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It is now obvious that the whole issue of Assad and the seran gas was false reporting, probably orchestrated by the deep state. Evidence seems to support the fact that Assad attacked a chlorine gas weapons manufacturing unit run by the Islamic State. It seems that Trump had to bow to pressure to take action, and thus the pantomime started. His action in ensuring that there were no Russian casualties probably averted a third world war.

Why isn't he being given credit for an inspired act of diplomacy in the face of the treasonous deep state media fake publicity?

What evidence suggests that chlorine gas was used? Chlorine gas causes distinct and identifiable resputory injuries that werrnt reported, this was most likely sarin. Given the difficulty of manufacturing sarin in the amounts required for state violence (it is difficult but possible for the small amounts needed for small terrorist attacks).

Also, when did IS get planes?

And last but not least, is Trump not Commander in Chief? He would have to sign off on this, even though he has given more individual brevity to military officials to acts as they will. If not Trump, what elected official should be held responsible for this, in your opinion?

And what motivation would the deep state have to attack Assad's regime? That is, how would the US benefit from this action, specifically deep state actors (which I assume are the letter Intel agencies, they don't have donors, and the war complex as well).
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And what motivation would the deep state have to attack Assad's regime? That is, how would the US benefit from this action, specifically deep state actors (which I assume are the letter Intel agencies, they don't have donors, and the war complex as well).

The Americans themselves are not bothered much about the situation in Syria. But three of their most important allies in the region (Israel, Saudi Arabia and Turkey) want Assad removed at any cost.

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Perhaps it's time for Trump to show what he can do. In the election he promised he'd make America great and show the Russians that we have to reckon with the interests of America. Until we see that he can not do more and help Russian in the promotion of their ideas. Bombing abandoned airfield not helped Trump to overthrow the Assad regime, but cost the American taxpayers a lot of money.
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And what motivation would the deep state have to attack Assad's regime? That is, how would the US benefit from this action, specifically deep state actors (which I assume are the letter Intel agencies, they don't have donors, and the war complex as well).

The Americans themselves are not bothered much about the situation in Syria. But three of their most important allies in the region (Israel, Saudi Arabia and Turkey) want Assad removed at any cost.

I'm a bit confused, seriously. Is the deep state other countries Intel agencies too? I might not understand the term correctly, my apologies if I've misapplied it. If the deep state is just our Intel agencies, then again I ask, to what benefit? That would benefit our allies.

Is there an Arabian Peninsula deep state, or like a global cabal?

Also, I don't think our deep state wants Assad out TBH. Assad is the most secular thing over there; he's the evil you know instead of the abomination you don't.
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Trump's fault that he is constantly accused of having ties with Russia. Do not yet found evidence of his betrayal, but the fact that Trump and his team are constantly communicating with the Russian guards. Recently became aware of his conversations with the godfather of Putin during the election campaign. Soon Trump does not remain a trump in this game.

Maintaining good relations with a foreign nation can't be taken as a negative. Why some people want the US-Russian relations to remain in a deep-frozen state? In my opinion, Russia is not the number 1 enemy of the United States.

It probably wouldn't have blown on his face if it wasn't for the accusations of benefiting from Russian hacking sprees as well as suspected vote rigging. Him having these contacts with government officials there would also have looked off to some people. He has no prior government position to have as excuse for knowing these people, nor do I know of him having huge investments there (and even then, why Kremlin?).

Well this would be an exciting ride. Better have your popcorn ready.
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