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May 21, 2017, 12:36:30 PM
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I just had a thought:  all the time, scalpers buy thousands of tickets to gigs and stadiums and resell the tickets to fans at much higher prices.  These bastards price ordinary fans right out of their events.  The solution should be cryptographic proof.

Think of it like this: a band/artist/venue puts up their tickets to a Bitcoin based service.  Someone sends them Bitcoin.  When they get there, they show the venue a signed message from the address that they used to pay.  Suddenly, the secondary ticketing market becomes extremely complicated, and Bitcoin users don't even have to verify their actual identity with the service.

This could even apply to sports as well.

Any thoughts on this?  I'm not a real developer so I have no idea on the details.


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May 21, 2017, 03:10:11 PM
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Unfortunately this isn't good enough to disrupt what those bulk buyers are doing from selling at higher prices, since most venues only care for selling out. The first person to approach them for remaining tickets, they'll be selling the remaining seats and usually some of these venues, even tend to make a deal with these sellers for some profit going towards the venue (there were few cases). Also in terms of privacy, most venues that I've attended, didn't require any verification processes (besides showing the ticket), so a little advantage only (for places that require).

Regardless of it, it will be a good alternative (if someone can deliver this).

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May 21, 2017, 06:12:37 PM
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Unfortunately this isn't good enough to disrupt what those bulk buyers are doing from selling at higher prices, since most venues only care for selling out.
Scalpers only make profit if they sell all of their tickets.  Therefore if the event sold out through illegitimate means, it would at least be close to selling out through legitimate means.
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The first person to approach them for remaining tickets, they'll be selling the remaining seats and usually some of these venues, even tend to make a deal with these sellers for some profit going towards the venue (there were few cases).
I can see that potential issue, yes.  Hopefully with more awareness of blockchain technology this would become more frowned upon.
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Also in terms of privacy, most venues that I've attended, didn't require any verification processes (besides showing the ticket), so a little advantage only (for places that require).
True, but proving that you actually personally own the ticket and bought it firsthand does require verification processes.  The festival Glastonbury, for example, requires people to give passport photos and more to prove their identity months before the event so that they can avoid scalpers themselves, but blockchain technology can make this so much easier.

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May 22, 2017, 05:44:08 PM
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I just had a thought:  all the time, scalpers buy thousands of tickets to gigs and stadiums and resell the tickets to fans at much higher prices.  These bastards price ordinary fans right out of their events.  The solution should be cryptographic proof.

Think of it like this: a band/artist/venue puts up their tickets to a Bitcoin based service.  Someone sends them Bitcoin.  When they get there, they show the venue a signed message from the address that they used to pay.  Suddenly, the secondary ticketing market becomes extremely complicated, and Bitcoin users don't even have to verify their actual identity with the service.

This could even apply to sports as well.

Any thoughts on this?  I'm not a real developer so I have no idea on the details.



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May 22, 2017, 06:29:10 PM
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I just had a thought:  all the time, scalpers buy thousands of tickets to gigs and stadiums and resell the tickets to fans at much higher prices.  These bastards price ordinary fans right out of their events.  The solution should be cryptographic proof.
But wait.Don't you think the fans should be responsible enough to buy the tickets from legit online sources than to wait for the last day to buy from the scalpers ?

Think of it like this: a band/artist/venue puts up their tickets to a Bitcoin based service.  Someone sends them Bitcoin.  When they get there, they show the venue a signed message from the address that they used to pay.  Suddenly, the secondary ticketing market becomes extremely complicated, and Bitcoin users don't even have to verify their actual identity with the service.
Don't you think the same model can be achieved with normal cash but with better management ? This doesn't solve the problem as scalpers can buy tickets with 10 different addresses,sign them and sell it for much higher prices at the venues.


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May 22, 2017, 08:49:00 PM
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I just had a thought:  all the time, scalpers buy thousands of tickets to gigs and stadiums and resell the tickets to fans at much higher prices.  These bastards price ordinary fans right out of their events.  The solution should be cryptographic proof.
But wait.Don't you think the fans should be responsible enough to buy the tickets from legit online sources than to wait for the last day to buy from the scalpers ?
Nah, the OP's got a point.  Venues often sell out pretty fast because of scalpers.  The only reason that scalpers exist is to sell their tickets to fans who are willing to pay more because the show is sold out and they have no other choice.
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Think of it like this: a band/artist/venue puts up their tickets to a Bitcoin based service.  Someone sends them Bitcoin.  When they get there, they show the venue a signed message from the address that they used to pay.  Suddenly, the secondary ticketing market becomes extremely complicated, and Bitcoin users don't even have to verify their actual identity with the service.

This doesn't solve the problem as scalpers can buy tickets with 10 different addresses,sign them and sell it for much higher prices at the venues.

In theory yes, but they'd have to transfer the entire wallet to every person as the concept is to do it at the venue.

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