Manila terrorist was in a casino burning casino tables

[tikboyhere]

I just want to correct this topic as a citizen of Filipino. Its is not act of terrorist that happens last friday. But this is only a job of a frustrated invidual who lost everthing from gambling. This is just a result how evil is a gambling is. This guy is already on its suicidal state thats why he doesnt want to live longer. Because in real life its all about the money. Though its not the happiness but what you can get from it will bring you happiness. Including the travel, gadgets, cars and things that you can give to your parents or love ones can brought happiness. I hope there can be sometging beyond money nowadays.

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[Jomaica]

He wasn't a terrorist, he was just a deranged robber. In my opinion he might be a former player or a player from the casino who loses everything from being addicted of playing then he loses his mind, maybe he loses everything already; his house, his wife, his car etc. etc. we all know what people can do when they are addicted. He's insane. This kind of incident will make you think of humanity and what happen to all of us now.

[pisston]

I just want to correct this topic as a citizen of Filipino. Its is not act of terrorist that happens last friday. But this is only a job of a frustrated invidual who lost everthing from gambling. This is just a result how evil is a gambling is. This guy is already on its suicidal state thats why he doesnt want to live longer. Because in real life its all about the money. Though its not the happiness but what you can get from it will bring you happiness. Including the travel, gadgets, cars and things that you can give to your parents or love ones can brought happiness. I hope there can be sometging beyond money nowadays.

I'm very impressed that the Philippines is even her Manila, I will suffer such gangsters here. I never thought that this edge of the earth was violent. All the information I draw from the TV and the news tells us quite different.

[Kemarit]

He is not a terrorist. He was already identified as an ex employee of Department of Finance. He was removed from this position for not declaring his documentation of his Assets and Liabilities as part of his being an employee. And as the investigation progresses, he was really addicted to gambling and has an outstanding loan of around $10,000 to several banks. And the thing that snaps him, is that he's family has leave him because of his addiction. I think that triggered him to ran what he did. Killing and burning tables in Resorts World and burning himself. I think this is a classic example what gambling can bring if left unchecked.

[veleten]

it was a terrorist attack whether you like it or not
the purpose of the terrorist is not to kill 5-10-20 even 50 people
as much as gruesome it is,the purpose is to have it shown on tv,get into newspapers,talked about
terrorists goal is to instill fear and to influence societies and goverments

[audaciousbeing]

I won't want to believe that he is a terrorist but just someone who is going through a difficult time and even a fool at that because how do you explain that stealing casino tables is a way to make wealth and even how does he even wants to redeem it in the same cafe? I feel it was when everything didn't go according to his plan that he improvised and it turned into another scenerio accordingly. Terrorists wont carry out an attack without adequate planning to ensure maximum casualty.

[noodle_dam]

I just want to correct this topic as a citizen of Filipino. Its is not act of terrorist that happens last friday. But this is only a job of a frustrated invidual who lost everthing from gambling. This is just a result how evil is a gambling is. This guy is already on its suicidal state thats why he doesnt want to live longer. Because in real life its all about the money. Though its not the happiness but what you can get from it will bring you happiness. Including the travel, gadgets, cars and things that you can give to your parents or love ones can brought happiness. I hope there can be sometging beyond money nowadays.

This is a correct and the most truthful statement and was just coming to this thread to update it with these very same words and close this thread.
But with all the responses from my last message maybe I will keep it open to just continue the conversation on this very note.
The world has become so corrupt with gambling and what it does to people to drive them to such madness is just insanity in on to itself. And what it does to the families is just horrendous as well.
Just seeing that guys mother was enough for me to think if I was that guy to be put in a position with no way out (you can say all you want he could of went to counseling but they will pay off your debts!?!   ) and to put my mother in that same situation. Being a disgrace and shaming my father and mother like this. Cause you do not know what goes on in the mind of such a desperate man when the banks and creditors are after you.

Just sit there a minute and think about it for a second and you would probably agree with me.

[noodle_dam]

He is not a terrorist. He was already identified as an ex employee of Department of Finance. He was removed from this position for not declaring his documentation of his Assets and Liabilities as part of his being an employee. And as the investigation progresses, he was really addicted to gambling and has an outstanding loan of around $10,000 to several banks. And the thing that snaps him, is that he's family has leave him because of his addiction. I think that triggered him to ran what he did. Killing and burning tables in Resorts World and burning himself. I think this is a classic example what gambling can bring if left unchecked.

You did see the gun he was brandishing didn't you?
In the videos it clearly looked like a automatic weapon that the IS-IS fighters in the firefight that is going on right now with the Duerte government.
They showed these same weapons in the news broadcasts just last week.
So how you or anyone not say he can obtain such a weapon and not intend to use it?
That in itself is enough for me to label him as having connections enough with these IS-IS fighters to obtain such a high firing weapon for intentions of dispensing maximum damage to it's targets.
A normal "local civilian" can not just go to their local gun store and buy this.
He would of needed a license to even be able to carry such a weapon or be part of the military.
So that in itself shows you he got this weapon from the either the black market or from IS-IS militant who are fighting Duerte and his government right now to the south of the country.

You all still know they are in a state of Martial Law fighting against these islamic terrorists,
Don't you?

[Rylei]

Actually that was not a terrorist attack but instead he was once a normal player that was drowned by debt in addiction in gambling according to what ive heard he has loaned in banks that will total with 4 million something Philippine peso. The guy has some big problems and chose robbery and to kill some people, i dont know maybe he wants to drag some people to before his death.
The main question there is how did he even manage to get those heavy firearms into the casino was the security lacks from the casino itself, they should have block him before he even gets in and has some metal detector to detect any deadly weapons they're security should have pistols.

He didn't walk through the metal detector. Instead, he just walked inside, beside the metal detector passing the lady guard according to the video that was released on the news.

[kimtaekayo]

No, it's not a terrorist or anything that is related to ISIS or any terror group.

He is just an addicted gambler that is depressed for having debts with many people.. assuming $75,000+

[NoNetwork]

The Western media was using this incident as another excuse to blame the Muslims. But now it has been proven that the attacker was not even a Muslim. The media must apologize now.

We can't bkame them, they are media, they can talk whatever they want, nobody cares, but most of them believe it. If they are wrong then they can do better another time, and besides, they are just making some conclusions about the incident. Many people think that it is a terrorist attack because it may be, but it is not.

Earlier, the ISIS had actually claimed that the attacker was one of their members. And even now, the ISIS connections can't be ruled out 100%. What if the attacker was a convert to radical Islam?

Apparently the attacker is identified and not a terrorist. He is in debt of $80k = 4million php to a bank and his parents confirmed that he is addicted to gambling.

He is not an ISIS, he didnt kill any civilians he was shooting at the ceiling.

That is really funny how ISIS claiminh these attack was. They can bring panic very good, but they lie very bad. Sadly, the gunman was also a Filipino, and that is just more disappointing. He killed his countrymen and nothing was ever obtained by these incident but tear and fear. I just hope it stays as a lesson.

[Sithara007]

No, it's not a terrorist or anything that is related to ISIS or any terror group.

He is just an addicted gambler that is depressed for having debts with many people.. assuming $75,000+

We all know that the gunman was born as a Christian in a Filipino family. But even now the ISIS links can't be ruled out. Too many questions are still unanswered. From where he got the assault rifle, if he was not linked to the terrorist groups?

[Lionidas]

No, it's not a terrorist or anything that is related to ISIS or any terror group.

He is just an addicted gambler that is depressed for having debts with many people.. assuming $75,000+

We all know that the gunman was born as a Christian in a Filipino family. But even now the ISIS links can't be ruled out. Too many questions are still unanswered. From where he got the assault rifle, if he was not linked to the terrorist groups?

That is the very first thing people should be asking:
WHERE DID HE GAIN ACCESS TO A FREAKING ASSAULT RIFLE IN THE FIRST PLACE
If not handed to him from ISIS to do their dirty work.. THEN WHO!?

[Papski]

No, it's not a terrorist or anything that is related to ISIS or any terror group.

He is just an addicted gambler that is depressed for having debts with many people.. assuming $75,000+

We all know that the gunman was born as a Christian in a Filipino family. But even now the ISIS links can't be ruled out. Too many questions are still unanswered. From where he got the assault rifle, if he was not linked to the terrorist groups?

That is the very first thing people should be asking:
WHERE DID HE GAIN ACCESS TO A FREAKING ASSAULT RIFLE IN THE FIRST PLACE
If not handed to him from ISIS to do their dirty work.. THEN WHO!?

Underground/Smuggled? Do you live in a fantasy world? Human organs, children, women, and drugs everything has a price.

Mygod!! Or maybe both of you just want to insist that its a doing of muslims/islam.

[crwth]

No, it's not a terrorist or anything that is related to ISIS or any terror group.

He is just an addicted gambler that is depressed for having debts with many people.. assuming $75,000+

We all know that the gunman was born as a Christian in a Filipino family. But even now the ISIS links can't be ruled out. Too many questions are still unanswered. From where he got the assault rifle, if he was not linked to the terrorist groups?

We can never know the truth now unless there is someone willing to give their stand on how he managed to get the gun and based on the footage shown by the CCTV, he has no help whatsoever. That's how ISIS spread their fear, claiming everything that has happened to the world that is bad. That's how they somehow make the world tremble with fear.

[strikers1945]

No, it's not a terrorist or anything that is related to ISIS or any terror group.

He is just an addicted gambler that is depressed for having debts with many people.. assuming $75,000+

We all know that the gunman was born as a Christian in a Filipino family. But even now the ISIS links can't be ruled out. Too many questions are still unanswered. From where he got the assault rifle, if he was not linked to the terrorist groups?

I just watched the news and a gaming consultant whom a friend of the suspect told that he is a gun owner so I guess that is one of his collection.

[noodle_dam]

No, it's not a terrorist or anything that is related to ISIS or any terror group.

He is just an addicted gambler that is depressed for having debts with many people.. assuming $75,000+

We all know that the gunman was born as a Christian in a Filipino family. But even now the ISIS links can't be ruled out. Too many questions are still unanswered. From where he got the assault rifle, if he was not linked to the terrorist groups?

That is the very first thing people should be asking:
WHERE DID HE GAIN ACCESS TO A FREAKING ASSAULT RIFLE IN THE FIRST PLACE
If not handed to him from ISIS to do their dirty work.. THEN WHO!?

Underground/Smuggled? Do you live in a fantasy world? Human organs, children, women, and drugs everything has a price.

Mygod!! Or maybe both of you just want to insist that its a doing of muslims/islam.

No one mentioned at what you quoted from their posts about being bought underground or smuggled.
That was my post, not theirs.
I think you got to have your head examined as well there friend.
Or you just an alt of someone posting for you campaign?
Hmmm...?
I do this for nothing of the sort because my own do not pay for this topic so that is nothing of discussion here since that will be your rebuttal point which is mute.
And everybody here knows very well that these 'objects' tht you have mentioned above are all for sale because the world is a screwed up place. We are all adults here and even the younger forum members are in check with what they post to act as much as an adult.
But your post.... that looks like a very immature response to a very serious subject matter.
So just do not write for the fact of just writing something to gain that faction of a bitcoin you so much desire.

[Slow death]

They just released footage of this terrorist in the Philippines.
That is some unbelievable things he did and for what?
All for robbery.
People has to die so that he can steal casino chips?

How did he expect to cash them out?
At another casino?

I guess he realized that he wouldn't be able to since they normally would need to be redeemed at the same casino that distribed the chips. They are tokens after all with the name of the casino where they came from.
And with the serial numbers on them i think he figured out he wouldn't be able to do shit with them and they are worthless.
So all that carnage and chaos was for nothing.
And this is probably the reason why he killed himself after being cornered by the police forces.

Maybe the thief was too far gone to get money that made a wrong decision and without thinking. Very strange that he did not do a search before going to steal.

No, it's not a terrorist or anything that is related to ISIS or any terror group.

He is just an addicted gambler that is depressed for having debts with many people.. assuming $75,000+

We all know that the gunman was born as a Christian in a Filipino family. But even now the ISIS links can't be ruled out. Too many questions are still unanswered. From where he got the assault rifle, if he was not linked to the terrorist groups?

I just watched the news and a gaming consultant whom a friend of the suspect told that he is a gun owner so I guess that is one of his collection.

Have guns is something that anyone must have to defend themselves, use guns to kill other people is crime

[noodle_dam]

They just released footage of this terrorist in the Philippines.
That is some unbelievable things he did and for what?
All for robbery.
People has to die so that he can steal casino chips?

How did he expect to cash them out?
At another casino?

I guess he realized that he wouldn't be able to since they normally would need to be redeemed at the same casino that distribed the chips. They are tokens after all with the name of the casino where they came from.
And with the serial numbers on them i think he figured out he wouldn't be able to do shit with them and they are worthless.
So all that carnage and chaos was for nothing.
And this is probably the reason why he killed himself after being cornered by the police forces.

Maybe the thief was too far gone to get money that made a wrong decision and without thinking. Very strange that he did not do a search before going to steal.

No, it's not a terrorist or anything that is related to ISIS or any terror group.

He is just an addicted gambler that is depressed for having debts with many people.. assuming $75,000+

We all know that the gunman was born as a Christian in a Filipino family. But even now the ISIS links can't be ruled out. Too many questions are still unanswered. From where he got the assault rifle, if he was not linked to the terrorist groups?

I just watched the news and a gaming consultant whom a friend of the suspect told that he is a gun owner so I guess that is one of his collection.

Have guns is something that anyone must have to defend themselves, use guns to kill other people is crime

He was too far under his head in debt so this caused him to snap. And the banks should of notified authorities when he was in so much in arrears to them and should of been triggers when no payments were made to his creditors. That in itself should of been a key warning sign of when someone is about to either rob a bank or this cause a casino in a last ditch effort to do something and not just give up and end up killing themselves and probably the bank owners and creditors of who are after them in the first place.
People are not to be messed with when they are in this situation and especially if a collector of guns. Jesus that is a red alert!
There was a case just like this in the states but it was a of a kid still living at home and his dad was a gun collector so he had easy access to the guns and was not the owner.
He shot and killed teachers and fellow students in that case. But similar with how his mindset would of been about being wronged by that society in someone way shape or form.
The difference is this guy was an adult even if still living with his parents and that was just a child/kid in high school and not in debt was the root cause of his rampage but of being picked on by other students.

[BekantanSejagatTeamPenipu]

iam hear attack casino house not terorits
but gambler is have much loan because lost gambling