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November 27, 2010, 08:00:22 PM
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hands definitely need more work =)
I quite liked the hands in version 34, because one of them looks quite masculine, which just adds to the ambiguity of the whole situation.
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November 27, 2010, 08:03:34 PM
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hands definitely need more work =)
I quite liked the hands in version 34, because one of them looks quite masculine, which just adds to the ambiguity of the whole situation.

The hand on the hip? The right hand on the cloak?

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November 27, 2010, 08:10:02 PM
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The hand on the hip? The right hand on the cloak?

Sorry, I already deleted your image (and I'm not going to pay again to download it again), but I think the left hand was across the woman's stomach. The finger shapes, and the smudge that could have been hair on the back of the hand, made it look masculine to me.
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November 27, 2010, 08:12:53 PM
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The hand on the hip? The right hand on the cloak?

Sorry, I already deleted your image (and I'm not going to pay again to download it again), but I think the left hand was across the woman's stomach. The finger shapes, and the smudge that could have been hair on the back of the hand, made it look masculine to me.

It will be cleaned up in the end.

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November 27, 2010, 11:36:47 PM
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I'd like to have your views on my post about the selling of information with bitcoins.  See there :  http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1344.0

In order to sell an image, one solution would be to sell a blured image.  You would display the blured image on your website, and you would improve it for each additionnal paiement.

To do so you could use for instance imagemagick :

convert original_image.jpg  -blur ${N}x${N} blured_image.jpg

Where ${N}  would be the size of the blur filter (the smaller it is, the better is the image).
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November 27, 2010, 11:52:43 PM
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I'd like to have your views on my post about the selling of information with bitcoins.  See there :  http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1344.0

In order to sell an image, one solution would be to sell a blured image.  You would display the blured image on your website, and you would improve it for each additionnal paiement.

To do so you could use for instance imagemagick :

convert original_image.jpg  -blur ${N}x${N} blured_image.jpg

Where ${N}  would be the size of the blur filter (the smaller it is, the better is the image).


Interesting solution. However, the incomplete work already functioned as "blurring".

I sell the latest revision of my art each day. If they want me to continue, they will continue to buy to see further rendition of my artwork.

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November 28, 2010, 12:02:58 AM
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Second update of the day:

http://ubitio.us/file/download/37

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November 28, 2010, 12:12:53 AM
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OK, I paid .02 more bitcoins...and I'm still very disturbed by what I see.  The left arm almost looks like a man's.  And it almost look like she (Satoshi?) is being groped by a man behind her, but there is obviously no man behind her.  Anyway, I obviously like your artwork, else I would have not paid for two versions of it already. 

I can't wait for it to be finished.

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Governments are good at cutting off the heads of a centrally controlled networks, but pure P2P networks are holding their own."
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November 28, 2010, 12:17:17 AM
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OK, I paid .02 more bitcoins...and I'm still very disturbed by what I see.  The left arm almost looks like a man's.  And it almost look like she (Satoshi?) is being groped by a man behind her, but there is obviously no man behind her.  Anyway, I obviously like your artwork, else I would have not paid for two versions of it already. 

I can't wait for it to be finished.

Gottach draw better hands somehow, but I am afraid the smudges will mess it up?

Anyway, thanks for your support. I feel like, I am gathering fans!

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November 28, 2010, 01:47:58 PM
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Gottach draw better hands...

Isn't the left hand the wrong way around? If I fold my left hand over my chest, my thumb is at the top, but you seem to have drawn the thumb at the bottom of the hand.
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November 28, 2010, 05:03:25 PM
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Gottach draw better hands...

Isn't the left hand the wrong way around? If I fold my left hand over my chest, my thumb is at the top, but you seem to have drawn the thumb at the bottom of the hand.

That's the right hand.

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November 28, 2010, 05:17:19 PM
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Isn't the left hand the wrong way around? If I fold my left hand over my chest, my thumb is at the top, but you seem to have drawn the thumb at the bottom of the hand.

That's the right hand.

I mean the hand that appears to be clutching her right breast. If that's her right hand, there is some very odd contortion going on. And if it's her left hand, the thumb needs to be at the top.

Unless it really is someone else's right hand.
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November 28, 2010, 05:19:19 PM
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Isn't the left hand the wrong way around? If I fold my left hand over my chest, my thumb is at the top, but you seem to have drawn the thumb at the bottom of the hand.

That's the right hand.

I mean the hand that appears to be clutching her right breast. If that's her right hand, there is some very odd contortion going on. And if it's her left hand, the thumb needs to be at the top.

Unless it really is someone else's right hand.

Hmm, are you sure you're not confused?

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November 28, 2010, 05:56:26 PM
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Hmm, are you sure you're not confused?

Darn it, Kiba, you're doing very well out of me financially. Because I didn't save the image, I had to download it again. Each time I just close the browser window, thinking I won't need to see that version of the image again.

And no, I'm not confused. I'm talking about the hand that is higher up. It is over the girl's right breast, and the elbow is by her left side. So it's her left hand for sure. And yet the thumb is shown at the bottom.

You try to pose your own body in her position, and you will see that the thumb just can't go that way.

Don't forget, the girl's left shoulder is on the right of the drawing as we look at it, because the girl is facing us.

But although it's anatomically wrong, I kind of like it because it adds quite some ambiguity to the picture, i.e. "just what is going on here?".

Anyway, this time I'm saving the image for a couple of days, in case you manage to convince me that right is left and left is right.
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November 28, 2010, 05:58:24 PM
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Hmm, are you sure you're not confused?

Darn it, Kiba, you're doing very well out of me financially. Because I didn't save the image, I had to download it again. Each time I just close the browser window, thinking I won't need to see that version of the image again.

And no, I'm not confused. I'm talking about the hand that is higher up. It is over the girl's right breast, and the elbow is by her left side. So it's her left hand for sure. And yet the thumb is shown at the bottom.

You try to pose your own body in her position, and you will see that the thumb just can't go that way.

Don't forget, the girl's left shoulder is on the right of the drawing as we look at it, because the girl is facing us.

But although it's anatomically wrong, I kind of like it because it adds quite some ambiguity to the picture, i.e. "just what is going on here?".

Anyway, this time I'm saving the image for a couple of days, in case you manage to convince me that right is left and left is right.

Ah, thanks, I will redraw the left hand. Left and right are sooooo confusing.

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November 29, 2010, 01:23:46 AM
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I redrew the left hand. However, smudges that can't be removed means that if I keep further revising, than it will be further dark. I got an idea on how to fix it though. I'll simply digitally erase the hand area, print it out and redraw it, then scan it in. My only fear is that the quality of the lines may degrade. However, I think it will be best be done when the line art is complete, but by then, I'll simply move on to other art project. It'll be worth a revisit in the future.

Other than that, I am struggling dealing with perspective. I discovered that the height of cluster box must be smaller as it goes inward. I also discovered that lines must be pretty parallel.

Once drawing cluster box is complete, I will probably add further details like tubes and other decoration, and then it's off to the cleaning phrase.

http://ubitio.us/file/download/44

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November 29, 2010, 03:07:29 AM
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I will be trying out bencoder's download service in the next artwork revision that I sell. If I like it enough, I might switch to bencoder's site. Hippich, watch out!

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November 29, 2010, 04:49:13 AM
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I redrew the left hand. However, smudges that can't be removed means that if I keep further revising, than it will be further dark. I got an idea on how to fix it though. I'll simply digitally erase the hand area, print it out and redraw it, then scan it in. My only fear is that the quality of the lines may degrade. However, I think it will be best be done when the line art is complete, but by then, I'll simply move on to other art project. It'll be worth a revisit in the future.

Other than that, I am struggling dealing with perspective. I discovered that the height of cluster box must be smaller as it goes inward. I also discovered that lines must be pretty parallel.

Once drawing cluster box is complete, I will probably add further details like tubes and other decoration, and then it's off to the cleaning phrase.

http://ubitio.us/file/download/44

That looks much better!  Now it's no longer disturbing, because now it's a picture of a hot chick feeling herself, instead of being groped by some mysterious invisible man.  Thanks!

"We will not find a solution to political problems in cryptography, but we can win a major battle in the arms race and gain a new territory of freedom for several years.

Governments are good at cutting off the heads of a centrally controlled networks, but pure P2P networks are holding their own."
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November 29, 2010, 04:52:19 AM
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That looks much better!  Now it's no longer disturbing, because now it's a picture of a hot chick feeling herself, instead of being groped by some mysterious invisible man.  Thanks!

Not my intention to portray it that way. She's touching her cloak. I'll try to remedy this error by trying my above method.

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November 29, 2010, 04:05:36 PM
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I will be trying out bencoder's download service in the next artwork revision that I sell. If I like it enough, I might switch to bencoder's site. Hippich, watch out!

I missed something.. Where I can learn more about bencoder's site?

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