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Question: What is your opinion on the BTC/Alt market in an event of a stock market crash?
BTC/Alts rise because these are seen as alternative investment. - 17 (68%)
BTC/Alts fall because these are seen as an even more speculative asset than stocks. - 4 (16%)
Nothing happens - 4 (16%)
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May 24, 2017, 01:16:48 PM
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What is your opinion on the BTC/Alt market in an event of a stock market crash?

1. BTC/Alts rise because these are seen as alternative investment.

2. BTC/Alts fall because these are seen as an even more speculative asset than stocks.

3. Nothing happens
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May 24, 2017, 02:21:43 PM
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The price of alts will go down but Bitcoin's price will go up since investors would buy coins and limited supply of 21 million will require deflation to allow all people in the world to use Bitcoin. Ex. 2015 Greece crisis was positive for bitcoin price since it was more stable than Greece monetary system. After Mt.Gox crash in 2014 I was happy from dropping price of Bitcoin. Now exchanges are decentralized enough so there is low risk of Bitcoin crash.
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May 24, 2017, 02:54:24 PM
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Bitcoin rises, alts stabilise.

My logic is that a large number of investors will put their money into gold and there will be a large asset money.  In the same way that they're not actually using gold very much, they would view Bitcoin as an alternative asset which has had historically high returns.  Since they're out of the mainstream, each investor is basically trying to get before the next one.

With alts this is less likely to happen since cryptocurrencies are seldom used for merchants yet anyway and their "innovation" would not affect where investors put their money for an asset (they want something with higher liquidity already).

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May 24, 2017, 03:23:51 PM
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If the stock markets crash, people will struggle to move their investments to Bitcoin, because these stock markets are usually closed to prevent

massive losses. { I am talking about a full collapse } .... Bitcoin has been seen as a safe haven before, so I reckon some investors will take some

money and shift it to Bitcoin to hedge against these losses. This is coming, because it usually happens in 10 year cycles ... "Housing Bubble" /

"Bank crisis" / " The dot-com bubble " etc...  Wink

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May 24, 2017, 03:29:50 PM
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Not all people who invest in the stock market know about Bitcoin or view it as a good investment. I'm sure that we will get some additional investors into Bitcoin if the stock market starts to crash but I'm not sure how much of a noticeable impact it would make.
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May 24, 2017, 03:36:31 PM
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What is your opinion on the BTC/Alt market in an event of a stock market crash?
Nothing happen with bitcoin, without a lure to gained the attention by the investors and they will not see bitcoin as an alternative currency. There are some alternative ways such as gold and silver. I may think if they will take a part to buy more gold or silver. This will not be closed the possibility some of the portions will go to the bitcoin.
But the crashes of market stock can be a good opportunity for the big player to buy more cheap stock. If you've even read the story of Napoleon Bonaparte.

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May 24, 2017, 03:44:27 PM
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unless 2 events happen

network wide bug
merchant services like coinbase/bitpay move to centre around an altcoin.

then just treat the bitcoin price movements as temporary drama.
if the price goes down due to temporary drama dont treat it like a panic, think of it as a discount day

however dont invest more than you can afford.
if you need your hands on the funds within 6-24 months dont invest that amount because if a speculative temporary drama bubble bursts it may take a coupl years to recover.

in short. dont panic. sell what you 'need' and wait for the discount day to plateau and buy want you can afford using funds you dont 'need'

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May 24, 2017, 04:10:31 PM
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Not all people who invest in the stock market know about Bitcoin or view it as a good investment. I'm sure that we will get some additional investors into Bitcoin if the stock market starts to crash but I'm not sure how much of a noticeable impact it would make.

Even if we saw a significant slump, instead of just a crash; gold is much more popular by magnitudes.  I don't think people would be so eager to jump fight back into a volatile asset after getting burned on traditional assets. Also, that three day settlement period on accounts would be the kiss of death for a late investor, by the time your funds cleared, that is, if you weren't already positioned, you'll probably miss out Wink
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May 24, 2017, 04:52:39 PM
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this is the great unknown. bitcoin has basically existed during a never ending bull market in stocks.

i don't think there are many investors who do both stocks and bitcoin so maybe there isn't much overlap. by the time there is a stock market crash it's possible bitcoin will be on many more radars so more traditional investors will get in.
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May 24, 2017, 04:56:51 PM
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I think the price of BTC will rise, together with some alts. but it wouldnt be a huge raise, just a bit.

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May 24, 2017, 05:09:30 PM
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What is your opinion on the BTC/Alt market in an event of a stock market crash?

1. BTC/Alts rise because these are seen as alternative investment.

2. BTC/Alts fall because these are seen as an even more speculative asset than stocks.

3. Nothing happens

It is hard to answer definitely to your question

If it is ever possible at all. The main reason is that Bitcoin is still a rather niche financial instrument, thus it can come out any way. Indeed, Bitcoin is as speculative as most speculative stocks out there, but I still don't think we can measure it up with the same metric as stocks (i.e. most risky ones will fall the hardest). Basically, Bitcoin is a thing unto itself, and people heavily invested in stocks (like, say, Warren Buffett) are hardly interested in Bitcoin. So it could be the third option, but this is just not possible since everything is so interrelated and intertwined. Personally, I'm more inclined to think that if only the stock markets crash (and nothing beyond that), Bitcoin may actually gain in value (as well as alts)

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May 24, 2017, 05:12:30 PM
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it depends on the reaspn why the stock markets crash, if u think they crash in form of getting drained of money i think that is not likely in the future what is much more likely is,

that the stockmarket gets blown up with fiat money and the people will start stopping to work for money at all. then the national currencies which are today abused by a corrupt and criminal banking elite will lose their power till lots of companies will have to issue their own currencies in order to get running. this will lead to additional issues, bitcoin might then be 1 million or more dollars worth but no one will want to buy a bitcoin from you because the stock exchanges will not have anything to do with the reality and there are uncountable many currencies out there.

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May 24, 2017, 05:54:22 PM
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people will start investing their money into cryptocurrency for sure. No one will keep their money in fiat because the inflation which comes from the crash will kill them all. And there will be a new era for Bitcoin and other cryptos

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May 24, 2017, 06:39:42 PM
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people will start investing their money into cryptocurrency for sure. No one will keep their money in fiat because the inflation which comes from the crash will kill them all. And there will be a new era for Bitcoin and other cryptos

This is not how stock markets crash in real life

That is, they lead to directly opposite consequences, not to what you think. You think that when stock markets crash, fiat gets inflated (i.e. money, say, the US dollar, depreciates). In reality, though, the opposite happens, investors dump their stocks like shit, but they don't dump fiat for ammo or food (as you might think), and the net effect is that fiat actually heavily appreciates since people move their savings from less liquid paper (stocks) into more liquid paper (currency). That's what happened during the Great Depression in the US in the late 1920's-early 1930's

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May 27, 2017, 10:00:30 PM
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1.BTC/Alts rise because these are seen as alternative investment.
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May 27, 2017, 10:15:38 PM
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What is your opinion on the BTC/Alt market in an event of a stock market crash?

1. BTC/Alts rise because these are seen as alternative investment.

2. BTC/Alts fall because these are seen as an even more speculative asset than stocks.

3. Nothing happens
I think altcoin has different movement if the price of bitcoin was increased altcoin is going to decrease. i think that is why the price of altcoin is increasing while bitcoin also increasing due to delay or slow transaction of bitcoin so traders or investors choose like ethereum to use because its more faster than bitcoin and asking for lower fee..

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May 27, 2017, 10:22:45 PM
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What is your opinion on the BTC/Alt market in an event of a stock market crash?

1. BTC/Alts rise because these are seen as alternative investment.

2. BTC/Alts fall because these are seen as an even more speculative asset than stocks.

3. Nothing happens
When the stock market collapses there's a high chance that Bitcoin will go up (pretty consistently) but alts have the potential to go up or down and it isn't exactly clear what they would do in such a situation. There would likely be a move back to Bitcoin while the value for it goes up (due to money flooding in) and over time alts would likely grow, however there is no guarantee of that. It's just speculation.
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May 27, 2017, 10:28:55 PM
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You can take a recent issue when India announced to demonetize the currency that time so many peoples turned towards bitcoin that the Indian bitcoin market went 30% premium from the international market, so same i think that when the stock market crashes then most of them what ever left they will shift it to bitcoin market.
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May 27, 2017, 10:33:01 PM
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What is your opinion on the BTC/Alt market in an event of a stock market crash?

1. BTC/Alts rise because these are seen as alternative investment.

2. BTC/Alts fall because these are seen as an even more speculative asset than stocks.

3. Nothing happens
Nothing happens as of now as they are just starting to grow and become popular. Investors are lifting it yet it's not enough thus volitality occurs. In this sense no one can probably tell.

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May 27, 2017, 10:39:23 PM
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What is your opinion on the BTC/Alt market in an event of a stock market crash?

1. BTC/Alts rise because these are seen as alternative investment.

2. BTC/Alts fall because these are seen as an even more speculative asset than stocks.

3. Nothing happens

i think number 1 and number 2 is closed to the right answer although i really don't know amd not sure about the investment that OP said but i see for people which have any of investment, i am sure that they can make returning profit in 2x after their balance have been add into your wallet. by the way, i really agree with the number 1 because if the price is rise, it could make bitcoin and altcoin as alternative payment.
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May 27, 2017, 10:55:12 PM
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What is your opinion on the BTC/Alt market in an event of a stock market crash?

1. BTC/Alts rise because these are seen as alternative investment.

2. BTC/Alts fall because these are seen as an even more speculative asset than stocks.

3. Nothing happens

i think number 1 and number 2 is closed to the right answer although i really don't know amd not sure about the investment that OP said but i see for people which have any of investment, i am sure that they can make returning profit in 2x after their balance have been add into your wallet. by the way, i really agree with the number 1 because if the price is rise, it could make bitcoin and altcoin as alternative payment.

I think Number 3 is a better choice. Stock market has no link with BTC/ALT market. I dont think stock market investors are interested in bitcoin trading market and many be most of them do not know about it. Similarly how many people here who are in bitcoin trading are also involved in stock and forex trading ? i think the number will be very less. Both of them are different markets with different peoples.
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May 27, 2017, 11:30:36 PM
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What is your opinion on the BTC/Alt market in an event of a stock market crash?

1. BTC/Alts rise because these are seen as alternative investment.

2. BTC/Alts fall because these are seen as an even more speculative asset than stocks.

3. Nothing happens
It will depend on how the investors and the general public see bitcoin at the time, when a crisis like that happens, people tend to favor hard assets, property, houses, gold, silver, jewelry than soft assets like stocks, paper money, so if people see bitcoin as a hard asset bitcoin is going to reevaluate every hour of the day if not then bitcoin is going to lose a lot of value.
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May 27, 2017, 11:35:33 PM
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What i really think is that people might find bitcoin as an alternative currency and will start investing in it and in the event of a crash in stock exchanges people could always have an alternative which is really good ,only recently we saw big money coming into bitcoin and i hope the trend continues.
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May 27, 2017, 11:38:30 PM
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What is your opinion on the BTC/Alt market in an event of a stock market crash?

1. BTC/Alts rise because these are seen as alternative investment.

2. BTC/Alts fall because these are seen as an even more speculative asset than stocks.

3. Nothing happens

I think that bitcoin and altcoins will rise because they are seen as an alternative. we have seen how good altcoins and bitcoin have performed over the past few weeks and wall street people are getting panicky about bitcoin going up and up as they said that a 25k bitcoin is completely BS, but now looks to be a legitimate claim. BUt I think that altcoins won't necessarily be as good a investment when the stock market crashes than bitcoin because bitcoin after all is still the number one crypto and probably will stay this way forever no matter how close ethereum and ripple gets, and that's something that investors look for.
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May 27, 2017, 11:55:21 PM
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People will always find an alternative to make money and if the people who are trading is aware of the crypto market then sure they will try their hand at it and what i noticed is that today all the stock exchanges were in green when all the crypto exchanges went red. Cheesy
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May 28, 2017, 12:10:48 AM
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What is your opinion on the BTC/Alt market in an event of a stock market crash?

1. BTC/Alts rise because these are seen as alternative investment.

2. BTC/Alts fall because these are seen as an even more speculative asset than stocks.

3. Nothing happens

I would say that 3, nothing happens.

Mainly because stock markets and cryptocurrencies are completely two different unrelated things. Most stock market players don't even use bitcoins and most bitcoin users don't play on the stock market, because they play in altcoins already.

There shouldn't be any direct correlation to btc except the strength of the dollar that is affected by the stock market.
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May 28, 2017, 01:45:42 AM
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What is your opinion on the BTC/Alt market in an event of a stock market crash?

1. BTC/Alts rise because these are seen as alternative investment.

2. BTC/Alts fall because these are seen as an even more speculative asset than stocks.

3. Nothing happens

I would say that 3, nothing happens.

Mainly because stock markets and cryptocurrencies are completely two different unrelated things. Most stock market players don't even use bitcoins and most bitcoin users don't play on the stock market, because they play in altcoins already.

There shouldn't be any direct correlation to btc except the strength of the dollar that is affected by the stock market.
You are right that they are unrelated so I chooses 3rd option in the poll too because I also think that they are two unrelated things so therefore, nothing happens. If there will be some effect it will have on bitcoin it will be little unless the whales of stock market would invest in bitcoin too which I think would not happen. If that happens bitcoin will surely rise but I don't see it happening soon this year or next year.
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May 28, 2017, 06:22:21 AM
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the no.3 is the best option i can see, because stock market and bitcoin/altcoin merkets isn't related to each other so it won't affect the bitcoin price if the stock market crashes. no 1 is also a good choice because if the stock market crashes the people will go to bitcoin because for them bitcoin is an alternative asset.
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May 28, 2017, 07:23:44 AM
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People will always find an alternative to make money and if the people who are trading is aware of the crypto market then sure they will try their hand at it and what i noticed is that today all the stock exchanges were in green when all the crypto exchanges went red. Cheesy

That is a fact since a trader will always be a trader. It has become an obsession and if the stock market crashes they will surely shift immediately to cryptocurrency market and trade there. If the stock market crashes then we will be seeing bitcoin hitting a million per coin But let us not wish for a stock market crash since it will affect all of us even the non traders and non-stock holders.
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May 28, 2017, 09:49:08 AM
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The price of bitcoins and altcoins doesn't related to the stock market so if there is pump or crash happens in the stock market then nothing happen to the bitcoin and altcoin because they are too far related to that and if the stock market investors or traders will find bitcoin then it will help the bitcoin and altcoins to pump its price because of being solid and stable market.
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June 02, 2017, 02:45:01 AM
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What i really think is that people might find bitcoin as an alternative currency and will start investing in it and in the event of a crash in stock exchanges people could always have an alternative which is really good ,only recently we saw big money coming into bitcoin and i hope the trend continues.
This already happen I think in places like Argentina and Venezuela where people decide to use bitcoin as a way to store the value of their money due to the great devaluation they were suffering through the mismanagement of the governments of the economy of those countries, however this was mostly a local event, I do not know what will happen if this becomes global.
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