Electrum help!

[harveydent]

i'm not sure if i'm being a noob here but i'm trying to send bit coins from Address A to Address B

when doing so i have to pay the mining fee..

after i've agreed to pay the mining fee the payment leaves my wallet (address A) but is now sent to address C!!! while address B (my intemnded destination) gets the mining fee?!?!

am i missing something here???

any light anyone can shed would be greatly appriciated.

thanks

[jonald_fyookball]

no, the miners get the mining fee.

The amount sent should be in your "B" address  If there was change left over, from what was in your address A,
it will send to a 'change address "C" ' , also in your wallet.

If you still need help:


If you right click and see "view on blockchain", it should take you to a link on blockchain.info

if you can see that , post the transaction URL here.

[harveydent]

yes this is what i thought also however it shows the amount i sent (intended for address B" is actually listed in this weird address C

this is the block chain link:  https://blockchain.info/tx/6662fa362acde6a03aa267fb3f7636a4ad3af32af91aa2ba1a6f6542da808d93


address: 1Q2Be1t8z4gbgeDEjV5T9rud6GNfQ7NmQa is where i wanted the  0.03455354 BTC to go so why is it now listed in address C - 156kH3ystnAxZ4nvTbFsF5UgG4k9Vp2U7Z

??

[jonald_fyookball]

maybe you copied and pasted wrong or you have a virus?
 

[harveydent]

definately not the address is 100% correct... it clearly stated "send to" then i typed 1Q2Be1t8z4gbgeDEjV5T9rud6GNfQ7NmQa

then asked to confirm payment of the miners fee... clicked ok.. now the payments have been mixed, F-knows why...  this has really annoyed me.

Don't use Electrum aparantly...

[jonald_fyookball]

i see this one also got one though

https://blockchain.info/address/1Q2Be1t8z4gbgeDEjV5T9rud6GNfQ7NmQa

[harveydent]

i'm assuming that's the miners fee?

[harveydent]

from what i can see i wanted my coins to go somewhere... they instead go to another address and a tiny fee (possibly the miners fee) has gone to where i intended the whole payment to go.

Electrum has littrally just robbed me because of its incompitent output procees - i clearly stated where i wanted the funds to go, as the funds have yet to be confirmed i tested it again with a 2nd transaction and exactly the same thing happened!

F you Elecrtum - nobody use it.

[HCP]

Have you checked what "base unit" you have Electrum set to? It can be mBTC, BTC or bits.

Tools -> Preferences -> Appearance


Looking at your transaction(s), it seems to me that you are sending a lot less than what you intended and the remainder is going to your change address. I suspect this is because you're entering 0.03455354, but your units are set to mBTC instead of BTC.

0.03455354 mBTC = 0.00003455 BTC

[jonald_fyookball]

yeah looks like this was just change set back to you -- check all your used change addresses for that.

[harveydent]

guys you may have the answer... i'll get back to you and let you know if its successful or not, i'm guesing as the payments still unconfirmed when i do this "higher amount" the mining fee will also be larger, thus getting worked by the minors before my previous transations, cancelling them out??

[HCP]

Note: You won't be able to do the "Double Spend" from Electrum. It won't (shouldn't) let you... and is quite likely to just spend "different" coins.

Be very careful with Double Spending and make sure you understand exactly what it is you're attempting to do and how to go about doing it. Otherwise, you'll just make things worse.

[harveydent]

thanks, it looks ok so far... https://blockchain.info/tx/b2896933dfc9d76e9078d9cad47f2d1c3b5b15d882b7cae35bf61d3c6499e21a

we'll have to wait for the confirmations i suppose, luckily there isn't alot more funds in this particular wallet than i had intended so the risk of losing more coins isn't really there

[HCP]

And now all you have done is create another transaction in the unconfirmed chain, with a low fee... your new transaction only has a fee of 50 sats/byte... the recommended fees at the moment are more like 300 sats/byte. I did warn you to be careful.

Plus, because this transaction is spending from an unconfirmed parent, which is spending from an unconfirmed parent... it is not going to confirm for a looooooong time. And you can't try and use the ViaBTC accelerator because it has unconfirmed parent transactions.

If you were intending to do a "Child Pays For Parent" transaction, as opposed to a double spend... then you should have used a fee that would have resulted in an average fee across all three transactions being around 300-350 sats/byte... ie. 225 bytes + 226 bytes + 225 bytes * 350 sats = 237300 sats (or 0.00237300 btc). You used 11300 sats or 0.000113 btc.

If you're going to continue using Electrum, I highly recommend you go into "Tools -> Preferences -> Fees" and make sure Dynamic Fees is checked.

[harveydent]

thanks for the info and in all honesty i'm just glad that the funds are no longer lost! i genuinely thought i had either been hacked or i messed up and sent them to a random address.

i don't mind waiting a bit of the funds to get picked up in a block. do you know roughly how long i'll be looking at? at least there's some form of fee rather than nothing, and is it a case that after so many days the transaction will just be returned to the wallet??

[jonald_fyookball]

thanks for the info and in all honesty i'm just glad that the funds are no longer lost! i genuinely thought i had either been hacked or i messed up and sent them to a random address.

i don't mind waiting a bit of the funds to get picked up in a block. do you know roughly how long i'll be looking at? at least there's some form of fee rather than nothing, and is it a case that after so many days the transaction will just be returned to the wallet??

14 days.

Used to be 3...

[harveydent]

hahaha! you live you learn... i've found out more about bitcoin transactions in the past 3 days than i've known about for the past 3 years!