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June 08, 2017, 03:54:03 PM
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Interesting post, useful for new gamblers looking for a strategy, method to play.

You, as an experienced gambler had more profit or losses along the years you are around here betting until now?

It will be useful for new gamblers, only if what they want is to lose all their money.
Martingale is a terrible strategy, unless you're already rich (and even then...)
and the other methods won't make you win more than others.
I don't say you shouldn't gamble, but do it responsibly and with limits, and do it for fun and not to become rich.
It's meant for anyone really.  New gamblers that need tips, or old ones looking for new stuff to try.

It all depends on your luck.  But you're right, gambling is meant for responsible fun with funds you don't need.  Most people I know hope to get lucky, as anyone does, but they're not deliberately trying to get rich from it.

Good share man.

I would say people that try to get rich in gambling are already in the gutters asking for alms. Gambling is indeed just for fun and it is really not for profiting. Profits are for the casinos and not the gamblers themselves.
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I've been on bitcoin/cryptocurrency gambling sites for a few years now, and over those years I've tried many different strategies and techniques, and want to share some of the concepts with you guys so you can learn and make your own.  Some of these concepts are basic, and well-known, others are not.  Some of you may know me as Randall from PD,
 or JD (Just-Dice), or YD (YOLOdice, link in Sig), and a few other places.

If you found any of this useful or happen to win big, you can always send me some BTC via my addy on my Profile here or a tip on YD, but it's completely optional.



Please Note:  NO GAMBLING STRATEGY WILL WORK 100% OF THE TIME.  If one did, gambling wouldn't exist.  These are meant for fun, depending on how you like to gamble, and should be treated as such.


Without further ado, let's begin!





Basic Martingale

Many players have already heard of this or used it, so if you have, feel free to skip to the other sections.  Smiley

Martingale is a very simple strategy, and can be used on dice sites, or any game with a roughly 50/50 chance of winning (roullette, etc).  It's premise is this:

- Choose a Base Bet (for most strategies, typically you want to do 1/200th of your balance at the most, or FAR less to make it "safer").
- Bet your Base Bet on 50% win chance.
- On LOSS: Double your bet and bet again.  If you keep losing, keep doubling.
- On WIN: Return to Base Bet and keep betting the same Base Bet until you experience a loss.

As I said, pretty basic.  Double on loss, reset on win.  Most dicers have a good concept of this, and usually either love it or hate it.  Some people use bots to run this technique, some people don't.  I personally hardly ever use Basic Martingale, but when I do, I do it manually.



Reverse Martingale

Reverse Martingale works exactly the same way as Basic Martingale, but reversed, as the title implies.  Rather than doubling your bet size on losses, you double on wins, trying to find a nice green streak to profit from.  In my opinion, this is even more risky than Basic Martingale, but I've seen some players have some really good luck with it.  Here's how this one works:

- Choose a Base Bet
- Bet your Base Bet on a 50% win chance.
- On LOSS: Keep betting your Base Bet until you get a win.  Losses don't change your bet amount.
- On WIN: Double your Base Bet for every win you get, stopping after a certain number of wins to collect the profit.  You can stop after 3 greens, 8 greens, or 20 greens, it all depends on what you decide.  You get to choose how big of a green streak you want to chase.

The nice thing about Reverse Martingale, is the real cost of a loss is the same every time, similar to Changing Payout on Loss mentioned below.  Experiencing 10 reds in a row with Reverse Martingale would only cost you the sum of 10 of your Base Bets, whereas with Basic Martingale, 10 reds could be quite costly depending on your initial Base Bet.



Modified Martingale

Modified Martingale is similar to Basic Martingale, but works with payouts other than 2x (50%), and is a bit more complex
 You may want to familiarize yourself with Basic Martingale before you attempt Modified Martingale.  You can use Modified Martingale to bet on any even-numbered payout multiplier (4x, 10x, 200x, etc.).  I recommend only playing this strategy manually, it's more fun that way.  Here's how it works:

- Choose a Base Bet
- Choose an even-numbered multiplier (in this scenario I will use 10x as an example).
- Divide your even-numbered multiplier by 2 to get how many losses you need to incur before you double up (10 / 2 = 5).  We will refer to this as your "double up number".
- Bet your Base Bet on your chosen multiplier (10x).
- On LOSS: Continue flat betting until you reach your double up number, then double up, and continue as necessary (for this scenario, you'd bet 5 times, if they're all losses, you double up and keep going, repeating as necessary).
- On WIN: Reset to Base Bet and continue flat betting.  If you experience a win before experiencing enough losses to double up, you MUST start over and keep betting until you incur enough losses to meet the double up number, otherwise you'll mess the strategy up (in other words, if I get a winning bet on my 3rd bet, I would need to keep betting my Base Bet until I get to 5 losses in a row before I can double up).



Increase on Loss

This is another widely used and known strategy, but sometimes an explanation can help better your understading.  The basic concept is that you increase your bet amount on losses proportional to your win chance so that when you finally experience a win, you'll make up for all the previous losses + a little profit (if done correctly).  This is a strategy better-used on bots like DiceBot, since doing the math for every roll can be a pain, but you're welcome to do it manually as well.  Here's the breakdown:

- Choose a win chance you want to play on (for this example, let's use 1%).
- Choose a Base Bet.
- Set your Increase on Loss percentage.  This is derived by adding a little bit to your win chance.  The larger your win chance is, the larger your increase will need to be (for this example, our Increase on Loss will be 1.1%, which should be more than enough to cover losses + make profit on wins).
- Start betting with your Base Bet.
- On LOSS: Increase your bet size by the Increase on Loss percentage (1.1%).  When experiencing more than one loss you need to add your Increase on Loss percentage to the previous wager to get the next bet size, which is why using a bot is highly recommended.
- On WIN: Reset to Base Bet, and continue.

Please Note: If you are making less profit on a win than you should have if the very first roll was a win, you need to up your Increase on Loss amount, otherwise with enough reds you wont recover your incurred losses or make a profit.  For example, if you were betting 0.001 on 99x, theoretically your payout should be 0.098 on the first win, so if you win on a later attempt and it's less than 0.098, your Increase on Loss needs to be raised.  You should ALWAYS be winning a larger amount from longer red streaks, not less.



Changing Payout on Loss

This method is different than what a lot of people use, because I'll be honest, it's a bit of a pain, but it's way fun to watch.  I highly recommend using a bot like DiceBot (knowledge of Programming Mode is necessary) for this if you're doing a lot of rolls, or it will be tedious and slow.  Essentially what you're doing is rather than increasing your bet size after losses, you increase your payout multiplier.  You can do this either every roll, or after a set number of rolls.  In this section I will be explaining how to do it after a set number of rolls.

I personally really like this strategy, just because it's fun to watch the bot do it.  This one is better showed through example than explanation so here's an example:

- For this scenario we're going to set our Base Bet to 0.00002000 (let's pretend my balance is 0.10, but I only want to risk 0.01 of it, so this would be 1/500th of my "risked balance"), and it will stay there.
- For the first 100 rolls I'm setting my payout to 110x.
- For the next 100 rolls it's 220x.
- For the next 100, 330x.
- Next 100 is 440x.
- Last 100 is 600x just for fun (but I could have done 550x, or something super high like 9900x for shits n giggles).
- Set up your bot so that it will stop after 500 losses, and this would prevent it from losing more than our risked balance.
- On LOSS: Continue betting through each set of 100, changing payout as necessary.
- On WIN: Reset to original payout, and start over.

You can use this strategy with any payouts or bet sizes you want, but always make sure you set it up so that 1) Your payout choices make up for previous losses 2) Your bet size is small enough to perform the number of roll sets you design and still fit inside the amount of balance you want to risk.








These basic concepts, along with tons of variations and edits are what myself and many dicers have used over the years.  I'll add to this list if I need to. Smiley  I hope you guys were able to learn something new, and maybe make some profit!  Good luck out there!

This post is copied from my original post on another forum, wanted to share it in both places.

Interesting and useful post especially for new gamblers. In any gambling game the more complicated the betting rules the more likely you won’t do so well. Those rules are there to give the house an advantage. A wagering option may only exist because the casino knows someone will try it despite the low chances of winning.
The higher the promise of payback the less likely you will win. The simpler bets work the same way for everyone.
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August 24, 2017, 09:05:58 PM
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Added "Increasing Multiplier and # of Bets by 100" to the list.  Recently developed the idea and thought you guys might like it. Smiley
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Added "Increasing Multiplier and # of Bets by 100" to the list.  Recently developed the idea and thought you guys might like it. Smiley

Nice. Been doing some of the strategies you mentioned here sometimes it works perfectly but most of the time it doesn't. But just like you said "NO GAMBLING STRATEGY WILL WORK 100% OF THE TIME."

I usually do reverse martingale when playing baccarat at landbased casino and I really find this strategy working and just having a 3-4 winning streak will make your bankroll grow very quick. I usually stop at 4 though, don't want to risk it all but I have seen more than 9 streaks in a table that I go once. So imagine how much profit I can take home if I didn't stop. LOL.

 
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August 25, 2017, 06:37:48 AM
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Great list of methods and strategy.  This sure will bring a new flavor in betting in dice or other luck type games.  I think this can also be applied to sportsbetting as I read some thread here about applying martingale method in sports betting but it take quite times unlike dice where we can see the develpment in just a matter of minute.    I am really intested to try this variation.  Thanks for this stuff and keep on sharing  Wink
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August 25, 2017, 07:04:47 AM
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I like exploring new stratedgies and your post is a big help not only for me but more to the new generation of gamblers nowadays. I will try some that i didn't yet  used in playing gambling. Thank you for this. cheers!


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Added "Increasing Multiplier and # of Bets by 100" to the list.  Recently developed the idea and thought you guys might like it. Smiley

Nice. Been doing some of the strategies you mentioned here sometimes it works perfectly but most of the time it doesn't. But just like you said "NO GAMBLING STRATEGY WILL WORK 100% OF THE TIME."

I usually do reverse martingale when playing baccarat at landbased casino and I really find this strategy working and just having a 3-4 winning streak will make your bankroll grow very quick. I usually stop at 4 though, don't want to risk it all but I have seen more than 9 streaks in a table that I go once. So imagine how much profit I can take home if I didn't stop. LOL.
Yeah, green/red streaks can be huge sometimes, but also very scary.  My personal record for wins/losses in a row on a 50/50 chance was 32 reds in a row.  Which from a statistics point of view has a 0.00000002328306% chance of happening.  Pretty crazy.  I don't blame you for stopping early, it's probably the better idea.

@everyone else thanks fellas!  I'm glad you like them. Smiley
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It's been a while since I've updated this list, but I'm still floating around, trying to find fun new ways to gamble.  I'll let you guys know once I find something new I like. Smiley
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To OP, thanks for sharing this gambling and betting strategy. Since i am a new player in online casino, i will try to figure out which strategy will be fit for my preferences. I already heard Martingale method before but didn't know how it works, but now i would say that you method could help a lot but the gambling responsibility still lies in our own hands and not to get hooked to it as it may become addicting, so gamble with fun and not to take it seriously, the more you lose you more you are hungry for winning. Just set the limit, if you lose then let it go. Gambling is not for everybody it is still a matter of luck.
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It's been a while since I've updated this list, but I'm still floating around, trying to find fun new ways to gamble.  I'll let you guys know once I find something new I like. Smiley
looking forward for that new ways mate,just now that i have read your shared oost and it looks like informative even if im not really a gambler but your tips are very consistent.cant wait to try this later hope it will fit to my luck.
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It's been a while since I've updated this list, but I'm still floating around, trying to find fun new ways to gamble.  I'll let you guys know once I find something new I like. Smiley
looking forward for that new ways mate,just now that i have read your shared oost and it looks like informative even if im not really a gambler but your tips are very consistent.cant wait to try this later hope it will fit to my luck.

Not sure why you are looking forward to it because you just said yourself that you are not a gambler. I would expect a gambler to be reading and looking forward to what kiritsugu has to post here.

Anyway, nice list OP. I don't really endorse people to use strategies, but I still do use them. Strategies don't really work in the long run, but really its fun to use. Since I am a  lazy person, I find it so boring to just click the hi and lo buttons, I always just try using a bot to do it for me. And that is where the strategies come in.
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It's been a while since I've updated this list, but I'm still floating around, trying to find fun new ways to gamble.  I'll let you guys know once I find something new I like. Smiley
looking forward for that new ways mate,just now that i have read your shared oost and it looks like informative even if im not really a gambler but your tips are very consistent.cant wait to try this later hope it will fit to my luck.

Not sure why you are looking forward to it because you just said yourself that you are not a gambler. I would expect a gambler to be reading and looking forward to what kiritsugu has to post here.

Anyway, nice list OP. I don't really endorse people to use strategies, but I still do use them. Strategies don't really work in the long run, but really its fun to use. Since I am a  lazy person, I find it so boring to just click the hi and lo buttons, I always just try using a bot to do it for me. And that is where the strategies come in.
well if you are already an heavy gambler things like this won't affect you while  fro those newbies and not an addicted gambler its fun trying some luck using this strategy but the thing as always it wont guarantee any long term winnings just still luck who can provide good chances of winnings.
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November 17, 2017, 03:22:35 AM
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this useful strategy from all gambler especially to the beginners but playing in gambling are not good to make profit as many thread discusison about gambling i always suggest to the players playing gambling are for fun not to make more profits because thats idea's people become addicting in gambling, the winning bet you can earn while enjoying in gambling are an extra benefits and also set up your limitation to avoid more losses.
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this useful strategy from all gambler especially to the beginners but playing in gambling are not good to make profit as many thread discusison about gambling i always suggest to the players playing gambling are for fun not to make more profits because thats idea's people become addicting in gambling, the winning bet you can earn while enjoying in gambling are an extra benefits and also set up your limitation to avoid more losses.
If you are aiming for profits always on playing gambling then better to quit while its still early and addiction isnt there yet because once it would stick to ones self you would really have a hard time on getting away from it. Those kind of strategies listed on Op are common but thanks for the effort on elaborating this stuff and would really give some knowledge to newbies on how they would gonna play gambling with some little strategies but  they should not expect too much because these methods arent meant to make you rich.

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November 19, 2017, 06:31:00 PM
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this useful strategy from all gambler especially to the beginners but playing in gambling are not good to make profit as many thread discusison about gambling i always suggest to the players playing gambling are for fun not to make more profits because thats idea's people become addicting in gambling, the winning bet you can earn while enjoying in gambling are an extra benefits and also set up your limitation to avoid more losses.
If you are aiming for profits always on playing gambling then better to quit while its still early and addiction isnt there yet because once it would stick to ones self you would really have a hard time on getting away from it. Those kind of strategies listed on Op are common but thanks for the effort on elaborating this stuff and would really give some knowledge to newbies on how they would gonna play gambling with some little strategies but  they should not expect too much because these methods arent meant to make you rich.
Well even if you say that you are not for profits, in mind it would still be about it because no one could really ever stop being human and that is about getting something from what you are doing, something that would benefit us. But I agree with the things you said like getting away early instead of leaving when you are addicted because that would be harder compared to the first one and we all know that gambling cannot make people rich unless you are really lucky like meaning in a Keno.

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January 26, 2018, 04:39:51 PM
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Added the "Payout +1, Attempts +1" strategy I've been using recently.  I've actually done pretty well with this one, more so than I usually do autobetting with a bot.  Thanks for reading, everyone!
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February 01, 2018, 02:56:50 AM
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How do you feel about sequencing/Fibonacci I have had some amazing sessions with this but find that as I go I continually add to my bankroll therefore continue increasing my base and after a certain profit it is hard to continue growth. I find this the problem with martingale as well.
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February 01, 2018, 12:34:19 PM
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How do you feel about sequencing/Fibonacci I have had some amazing sessions with this but find that as I go I continually add to my bankroll therefore continue increasing my base and after a certain profit it is hard to continue growth. I find this the problem with martingale as well.
I've never tried Fibonacci, to be honest.  It just never really appealed to me, so I have no idea.  I've seen lots of people using it though.
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February 01, 2018, 04:46:38 PM
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any bot script you use ?
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February 03, 2018, 12:39:04 PM
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any bot script you use ?
Any script I use would be one designed around a strategy here, but recently I've been using the strategies you don't need a script for.  Always be careful accepting scripts from people, because they can have malicious code in them to steal your coins.
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