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July 28, 2017, 11:03:38 PM
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And I can't sue those banks cuz I didn't send them any cash I bought my LTC in person. My only action is to sue Alexander as well as  subpoena the records for the admins and moderators so I may file suits against them as well. Filing lawsuits is cheap. About $200 to file to be exact.
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July 28, 2017, 11:10:27 PM
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Fuck the scammers. I bought $25,000 in LTC at an expo in NYC 2and a half years ago right before the crash. I patiently waited for the market to go back up just for these asshole to lock me out. Fuck that scamming piece of shit. You better believe I filed with action fraud and FinCEN. Now that this asshole is coming to the US my attorney has someone to subpoena. I only used this market because it had a good online reputation at the time and their prices and rates were the best. I guess you get what u pay for  Sad
He's already been charged with number of offences which may land him to prison for 55 years.You think you filling a subpoena will make any difference ? They authorities already know about the company's fraudulent ways,your $25k is a small amount compared to the numbers they're subjected with.Even if you do,there is no chance you'll get anything back if he pleads guilty.

I agree. It will be very hard for you to get the claims. So I guess its goodbye to your funds. The guy has been arrested and will probably spend the rest of his life in jail and BTC-e will not be online. Also, there are people who lost more money than you and I think they can't do anything because they know that they can't get back their money. If you want to proceed then go by all means, but we have warned you my friend.

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July 29, 2017, 12:01:11 AM
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Warned me what... that I can't get blood from a stone? that I won't get back my money. That's not the point. The point is that if money becomes available through a victims fund resulting from the fines, I'll be first in line while you hopeless losers don't get shit. It your ignorance of the law and how civil court works that's your set back. But if you choose to do nothing, then you only have yourself to blame for giving up.
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July 29, 2017, 05:57:23 AM
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Warned me what... that I can't get blood from a stone? that I won't get back my money. That's not the point. The point is that if money becomes available through a victims fund resulting from the fines, I'll be first in line while you hopeless losers don't get shit. It your ignorance of the law and how civil court works that's your set back. But if you choose to do nothing, then you only have yourself to blame for giving up.
We'll see how it turns out.The money is returned back if the assets are not seized and no criminal activities have been involved.If this was a hack,then yes the would sue the hacker with charges and return the assets to the public but that's not the case here.

Totally agree with you TravisH!

After some months they sent my deposit back to my bank account because I did nothing illegal. Authorities don't confiscate customer's money if you did nothing illegal.
He did ! Doesn't matter where the money come from,if it's used for laundering especially involving illegal trades (the charges he was imposed with) the assets are frozen that is no one gets shit.How many of the MtGoxx customers got their money back ?   


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July 29, 2017, 07:46:14 AM
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Totally agree with you TravisH!

Mastermind arrested and assets seized was the best thing that could happen for us victims. Those who legally had money or coins at btc-e can already open the champagner bottle.  Cheesy

I deposted some thousands to bitcoin24.com few years ago. Shortly after, the public prosecutor in Poland blocked the bank accounts of the exchange and investigated.

After some months they sent my deposit back to my bank account because I did nothing illegal. Authorities don't confiscate customer's money if you did nothing illegal.

But it doesn't seem like Vinnik was the mastermind. He seems like a patsy. No one who was around in 2011 and familiar with BTC-E believes he was involved in launching the site, nor an owner.

The thing about the bitcoin24 experience -- this is not applicable with BTC-E where likely most of the userbase's identity was not verified. Just username, email, password, 2fa maybe. Those accounts would surely just be pocketed by the Feds.

The bigger problem is that it isn't clear that the authorities seized any funds. Usually they announce funds seizure in the press release -- this is the most important part for federal agencies. But nothing here...
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July 29, 2017, 10:18:03 AM
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It's on Youtube and reddit now.

Clear browser and use a proxy and you can see on website. Website domain has been changed and seized by big brother. Maybe we might have a chance but with over 500,000 users I think it will be a long wait. I have a MTGOX claim that waiting for payment as well. According to my attorney its gonna be a long 6-10 years to resolve everything with btc-e.com OVER 400K users with no ID to link to funds, its gonna be a big mess. But know its in the feds hands is a better chance for me to recover my funds.

http://imgur.com/EqnleRe

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July 29, 2017, 12:23:52 PM
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Totally agree with you TravisH!

Mastermind arrested and assets seized was the best thing that could happen for us victims. Those who legally had money or coins at btc-e can already open the champagner bottle.  Cheesy

I deposted some thousands to bitcoin24.com few years ago. Shortly after, the public prosecutor in Poland blocked the bank accounts of the exchange and investigated.

After some months they sent my deposit back to my bank account because I did nothing illegal. Authorities don't confiscate customer's money if you did nothing illegal.


Thank you for your understanding of law. These idiots on here seem to have a vested interest in people thinking their  money is gone forever. Seems fishy to me that they are trying to convince victims that they are shit outa luck. The fact is,  people on the exchange that had their accounts locked were legal bitcoin users. They weren't following their illegal trend so they were locked out and scammed. I bought my LTC at an expo in NYC over the course of two days, two years ago before the MT.gox crash. I waited patiently for the market to go back up and when it did they locked me out. People like me def have a leg to stand on when demanding compensation form the government whose imposing fines. Not only can I prove where my $25k came from, I am prove when I bought the coins, and when I transferred them to BTC-e. If your a money launderer and you had stolen BTC, then yeah our really don't have a leg to stand on and should probably just throw in the towel.
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July 29, 2017, 07:47:31 PM
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Not only can I prove where my $25k came from, I am prove when I bought the coins, and when I transferred them to BTC-e. If your a money launderer and you had stolen BTC, then yeah our really don't have a leg to stand on and should probably just throw in the towel.


So hire a good lawyer to have your money back, I'm not a lawyer, but I believe that in these cases you have the right to get your money back because you have nothing to do with the crimes of the owner of the exchange

I only had cents in btc-e, so I will not bother recovering the cents

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July 31, 2017, 01:46:03 AM
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Did btc-e "destroy" competitors?

Please read this article: American Bitcoin exchange CEO found dead in her Singapore home after suspected suicide at age 28

Singapore is neighbor of Malaysia, where btc-e victims had to send their verification documents and if you consider that a large part of the MtGox hack was laundered thru btc-e?

Looks like somebody's been reading my recent posts, eh?  Wink Wink Wink BTW, the initial reports were that Autumn Rudtke was found in her home but later changed to being found atop a dumpster shed after jumping from the 26th floor of a complex she had to walk several blocks to get to.


Would you purposely jump to land two stories shy of the ground, or go the distance?

Maybe she didn't want to wake up Steve Beauregard sleeping in a room he rented from her when visiting Singapore when she committed suicide. Steve needs his beauty rest and wouldn't have like it if he was awaken early due to screams.

Autumn is the person of the right next to some random old dude:


Here's a pic of Autumn on the left of some random young dude:


Here's a pic of Steve Beauregard getting interviewed - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElKEGGOcFbU - in front of a cafe that's directly below the apartment he and Autumn shared:


I spoke with Autumn's sister shortly after the event, she calling me from Hawaii, and she said (and I quote), "THERE'S NO FUCKIN WAY MY SISTER COMMITTED SUICIDE!"
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The following three comments consists of three previously published posts of mine separated by a horizontal line (not counting the first one, or the last horizontal line which its content is a continuation of the content above it).



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2056158.msg20505927#msg20505927

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More detailed information about what happened to the BTC-e service.

On July 25, 11:00 the FBI staff came to the data center where our server equipment was located and seized all equipment, the servers contained databases and purses of our service.

Almost 6 days we could not get from our hosting provider the sane information, what happened to our servers because of this information we publish only now.

July 28, the domain was confiscated.

To date, part of the service facility has been arrested by the FBI.

The next update will include information on what options are available to restore the service, as well as the procedure for obtaining funds, in the event that the service is not started. In the current situation, if the service is not started before the end of August, Then from September 1 we will start the process of refund.
In the next 1-2 weeks, we will evaluate and publish information about how much money fell into the hands of the FBI and what amount of funds is available for return.

For all those who buried us, I will remind you that the service has always worked on trust and we are ready to answer for it.
The funds will be returned to everyone!



The arrest of Russian Alexander Vinnik:
Officially declare - Alexander was never the head or employee of our service.

Sincerely, btc-e

P.S. In the subject write questions as far as possible we will answer them. The service has always worked on trust and we are ready to answer for it. The funds will be returned to everyone! The arrest of Russian Alexander Vinnik: Officially declare - Alexander was never the head or employee of our service. Sincerely, btc-e P.S. In the subject write questions as far as possible we will answer them. The service has always worked on trust and we are ready to answer for it. The funds will be returned to everyone! The arrest of Russian Alexander Vinnik: Officially declare - Alexander was never the head or employee of our service. Sincerely, btc-e P.S. In the subject write questions as far as possible we will answer them.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndca/pr/russian-national-and-bitcoin-exchange-charged-21-count-indictment-operating-alleged

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A grand jury in the Northern District of California has indicted a Russian national and an organization he allegedly operated, BTC-e, for operating an unlicensed money service business, money laundering, and related crimes.

I can't believe that the fuckin FBI falsely claimed that Vinnik operated BTC-e when BTC-e adamantly declares that such was not the case. That's almost as believable as BTC-e returning all its users' funds in spite of not having any access to its database because ... wait for it ... the fuckin FBI took everything when they arrested a slew of other BTC-e employees except the dude who penned the post quoted above promising that all funds WILL Be returned just like Tom Williams of MyBitcoin promised back in 2011.


"Listen up, guys. In a few minutes we're going be boarding a plane heading to another country. Once there, we're going to BTC-e's data center and take their servers and hopefully arrest some people. We'll bring the severs and the those arrested back to the US. Meanwhile, Vinnik is about to be arrested in Greece where he's on holiday from Russia. Any questions? Oh, BTW depending on who's writing the news, Colin or Brian Stretch will be handling the prosecutions."



https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndca/pr/russian-national-and-bitcoin-exchange-charged-21-count-indictment-operating-alleged
BOOOOM!!!!! Right there on the justice departments home page. If found guilty he will face jail, more fines, supervision if released one day (looking at 55 years in prison), and ORDERED TO PAY RESTITUTION to the victims of his crimes. Soooooo, to all the people who have lost hope, don't. The USA has got your back! USA USA USA!!!! MERICA!!!

https://www.theverge.com/2017/7/26/16035702/btce-arrest-bitcoin-alexander-vinnik-mt-gox-theft-suspect

<also quoted here: http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2017/07/27/bitcoin-exchange-chief-arrested-in-ongoing-investigation-of-mt-gox-theft/>

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“Cryptocurrencies such as Bitcoin provide people around the world new and innovative ways of engaging in legitimate commerce,” said U.S. Attorney Colin Stretch, whose office will be prosecuting the case. “As this case demonstrates, however, just as new computer technologies continue to change the way we engage each other and experience the world, so too will criminals subvert these new technologies to serve their own nefarious purposes.”

https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndca/pr/russian-national-and-bitcoin-exchange-charged-21-count-indictment-operating-alleged

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A grand jury in the Northern District of California has indicted a Russian national and an organization he allegedly operated, BTC-e, for operating an unlicensed money service business, money laundering, and related crimes. The announcement was made by U.S. Attorney Brian J. Stretch for the Northern District of California; Acting Assistant Attorney General Kenneth A. Blanco of the Justice Department’s Criminal Division; Internal Revenue Service (IRS) Criminal Investigation Chief Don Fort; Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s (ICE) Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) Acting Executive Associate Director Derek Benner; Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) Special Agent in Charge of the Louisville Division Amy Hess; United States Secret Service (USSS) Special Agent in Charge of the Criminal Investigative Division Michael D’Ambrosio; Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC), Office of the Inspector General, Inspector General Jay N. Lerner; and Acting Director of the U.S. Department of the Treasury’s Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN), Jamal El-Hindi.

WHO THE FUCK IS COLIN STRETCH?? ?? ??

https://www.crunchbase.com/person/colin-stretch

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Colin Stretch became vice-president and general counsel for Facebook on July 5, 2013. Stretch started with Facebook in 2010 and served as Ted Ullyot's deputy general counsel. He was a partner with D.C. firm Kellogg Huber Hansen Todd Evans & Figel for more than 10 years before that. Stretch was involved in the Winklevoss case and a settlement with the FTC regarding Facebook's privacy policies.


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As for the dude who the arrow is pointing to, pay such no mind unless you wanna go there: https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmurck/. BTW, years later we're still waiting for proof that KnC truly did pay the U$100K fee to TBC in becoming a Platinum Member. I'm guessing that it never happened, but who the fuck am I?

Who else was a partner of Kellogg Huber Hansen Todd Evans & Figel, I hear you asking?

Nobody in particular unless, that is, this guy is relevant: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-31/meet-americas-newest-supreme-court-justice-judge-neil-gorsuch

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His work background includes time as a partner with the Washington law firm Kellogg Huber Hansen Todd Evans & Figel, a stint with the U.S. Department of Justice and clerkships with Supreme Justices Byron White and Anthony Kennedy.



A lot of news i've seen arrested a man making money and turn to bitcoin...

He was braved man and also make the btc more illegal

I think btc will became illegal if other people uses that at wrong way..
And i think because of its a virtual money its not paying any tax or what else and tax is used by the government in replacing stuffs in a particular country..

Yes, Vinnik was a brave man running various money services since the early 2000's, perhaps using those, too, as money laundering entities.


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Nov 10, 2015: https://www.coindesk.com/us-justice-department-holds-digital-currency-summit-in-san-francisco/


Xapo CEO Wences Casares, Coinbase founder Fred Ehrsam and Ripple CEO Chris Larsen, among others

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The US Department of Justice (DOJ) convened a first-of-its-kind conference on digital currency and the blockchain in San Francisco today.

According to the agency, the goal of the event was to unite the private and public sector in discussions centered on strategies for limiting cybercrime perpetrated with the emerging technologies.

The unpublicized event, organized by the DOJ’s Digital Currency Task Force and held at the Federal Reserve Bank in San Francisco, saw 175 industry participants engage in panel discussions that sought to emphasize its core theme from the point of view of entrepreneurs, law enforcement officials and regulators.

Though no participants were named in formal release, Twitter images from the event show speakers included Xapo CEO Wences Casares, Coinbase founder Fred Ehrsam and Ripple CEO Chris Larsen, among others.

In remarks, US Attorney Brian J Stretch positioned the event as one that sought to forge a common ground between representatives of the government and the distributed financial technology sector:

“As emerging technologies such as digital currency and blockchains expand into new and legitimate applications, it becomes all the more critical for industry leaders and government agencies to share insights and perspectives in order to combat the illicit use of these technologies.”

Further addressing the need for dialogue was FinCEN Director Jennifer Shasky Calvery, who noted that despite her department’s early efforts to understand the industry, continued discussions are needed due to the evolving nature of the technology.

“We only opened the door for the hundreds of other questions beyond our anti-money laundering perspective,” Calvery said.

The event was previously hinted at by DOJ Digital Currency Crimes Coordinator Kathryn Haun in an interview with CoinDesk in September in which she spoke at length about the multi-agency task force and its goals.

At the time, Haun sought to stress that the US government was broadly seeking to engage the digital currency and blockchain industry in discussions that would provide clarity on key issues for all ecosystem participants.

Translated: Akin to nobody brings massive amounts of drugs in the US unless it's us doing it, nobody runs a money laundering service unless it's us doing or overseeing it, up to and including some rogue dude in Russia which - MARK MY WORDS - we will eventually nab, hence inviting you fine 175 folks to this unannounced meatup today - there'll be pizza afterwards in the basement for any of yous into such with an option to stay longer to witness others killing pizza - to give us, us as in US, any info you have on this Russki, whereupon outta the kindness of our hearts we'll let you operate another day, because that's how we roll.



https://www.forbes.com/sites/laurashin/2016/11/01/federal-prosecutor-kathryn-haun-on-how-criminals-use-bitcoin-and-how-she-catches-them/#4dfe4c1b1871

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“When the tip is, ‘You’ve got a dirty agent on your payroll,’ you’ve got to take it with a grain of salt,” she says. “I thought I had to put this, what I called, rumor to rest. So when I started looking into this matter, I was doing it from the perspective of, I want to clear this person’s name, but I quickly learned that wasn’t going to be the result.”

She describes how she uncovered what were actually “the perfect criminals” — being federal agents, “they knew how to cover their tracks,” she says. Tune in to find out how she was able to follow the bitcoins, how tracking those patterns revealed to her that there were two dirty federal agents, not one, and what telling detail led her to suspect the second must also be a federal agent.

Call me a nut, but I'm thinkin' that them two FBI agents were part of some plot along with Paul Vernon of Cryptsy who used to suck the dicks of 3-, 4- and 5-Star Generals down in Ft Hood during the late 90s. Hell, at this point it wouldn't surprise me if Sonny Vleisides of BFL is an operative.
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August 26, 2017, 04:08:55 PM
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Far from happy. They are just not able to scam anyone anymore. All the scammed people are just waiting to see what happens when they open back up. Maybe they give us some of our coins back. I still intend on filing a law suit. It will be easier, now that the us government has most of their servers, to prove they stole your coins from you arbitrarily. And the fines levied by the US government will be available as restitution to victims. So to answer your question, no one is happy. We're all just waiting. Sure it was satisfying to see their founder surrounded by police, but it doesn't get me back my life savings.
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October 09, 2017, 04:34:20 PM
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HUGE $10,000 REWARD OUT
SPREAD THE NEWS


https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@thejamesfund/usd10-000-reward-bounty-or-split-among-individual-s-in-helping-me-blasting-btc-e-aka-wex-nz-info-below
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October 09, 2017, 04:42:04 PM
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Fellow Bitcoiners, please accept my apologies for calling BTC-e a scam and stating endlessly that all its users are fucked to the nth degree come September onward.

Thank you.

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October 10, 2017, 01:20:29 PM
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Dear all,

My account is verified via xbtce.

My wire transfer at 21 & 24-jul-2017 transfered to BTCE via Moneypolo 110k USD successful but BTCE is died and not credit, after Wex.nz recreated and now it still not resolved and I don't hear any info about my money.

My money not credit to my account in Wex.com. I created a ticket with supporter and answer from them: Contact to Moneypolo to refund.

After I created 2 tickets with Moneypolo & Moneypolo don't answer my ticket & I don't have any info about it.

I know they are scammers. How can they refund me? Who like me?

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October 11, 2017, 04:42:16 AM
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THIS EXCHANGE IS A SCAM

100% STOLE MY MONEY!

NO SUPPORT - NO ANSWER
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October 15, 2017, 06:15:45 AM
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BTC -e is owned by Russians, and Russians are known to be good at scamming people. The problem they had with state government ceasing their site is as a result of fraud they committed.

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February 13, 2018, 11:52:44 AM
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Hi there, I'm a BBC Radio 4 documentary maker keen to get in touch with people who've lost out.
We're against the clock so trying to speak to people ASAP for a research chat.


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February 13, 2018, 04:17:43 PM
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SINGAPORE POLICE FORCE -- FILE A COMPLAINT about WEX

https://app.police.gov.sg/Feedback/SPFfeedback.aspx


WORLD EXCHANGE SERVICES PTE. LTD. (“WEX”)   -  SINGAPORE

77 HIGH STREET #09–11 HIGH STREET PLAZA SINGAPORE (179433)
https://wex.nz/page/1


Singapore, where a competitor was killed American Bitcoin exchange CEO found dead in her Singapore home after suspected suicide at age 28

Just to clarify, if your btc-e scam balance is now on wex.nz or whatever other exchange, then the people from btc-e are likely behind this exchange!

I take it you're not familiar with my thread on the subject, eh?

Hi there, I'm a BBC Radio 4 documentary maker keen to get in touch with people who've lost out.
We're against the clock so trying to speak to people ASAP for a research chat.


Nicola Dowling
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Mobile: 07810 855 315
nicola.dowling@bbc.co.uk

Let me guess. You started making this documentary yesterday to be released tomorrow, hence being against the clock. Apologies for the quasi-diss, but when you have more time for your next doc, get in touch with me if you wanna hear my theory as to who's behind/created Satoshi Nakamoto. Hint: It may or may not be Robert Mercer.  Wink Wink Wink
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February 13, 2018, 09:03:22 PM
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170 euros is fucking nothing compared to what they have stolen from myself and others. I'm out $25,000. Another person here is out 100,000 usd. I'm filing a lawsuit against my ISP so they ban the site for use in the USA.
Rrrright, censorship. That's what we're fighting for, here. Bravo!
That's the worst thing you can do, really. Beyer help educate people instead of trying to protect them from themselves, using the same methods Bitcoin tries to be an alternative to.

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