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May 26, 2017, 08:35:29 PM
Last edit: June 09, 2017, 06:45:40 PM by elianite
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This is one of 16 remaining in its class.

http://imgur.com/A8HfkJ5

Note that it seems that the first-bits appear to be thicker than most of Casascius coins. Can anyone link to other cases of this?




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Photo updated

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Odd how the bits are bold.  Has anyone confirmed with mike that this has been done by him?  Not implying anything i just never seen this on a cas product.

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May 30, 2017, 01:41:35 AM
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Odd how the bits are bold.  Has anyone confirmed with mike that this has been done by him?  Not implying anything i just never seen this on a cas product.

It doesn't match what I remember my 100 bar looking like, and the photo I have doesn't appear bold either. I'd also be highly interested to hear from Mike whether there were early, bolded bits.

Provenance might be important here.

Glad to see a 100 BTC bar finally hitting market...watching with interest!

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May 30, 2017, 12:29:47 PM
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https://casascius.uberbills.com/?address=18gkqUsh54DH9gHhLfka4rGrzf7ZQweZrn

The print looks very "strong" compared the other picture

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https://casascius.uberbills.com/?address=18gkqUsh54DH9gHhLfka4rGrzf7ZQweZrn

The print looks very "strong" compared the other picture

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Yeah...never seen any Casascius 2011 with print that dark. I have seen pics of a few 100 bars and none looked that dark.
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Last edit: June 09, 2017, 06:45:06 PM by elianite
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https://casascius.uberbills.com/?address=18gkqUsh54DH9gHhLfka4rGrzf7ZQweZrn

The print looks very "strong" compared the other picture

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Yeah...never seen any Casascius 2011 with print that dark. I have seen pics of a few 100 bars and none looked that dark.

I agree. The owner of this says he got them all from Casascius in 2011, and did a copy/paste of the 'receipt' email. I dont think there is anything going on here, but can never be too careful with a 100 BTC coin.

Of note is that the 500 & 1,000 btc bars dont have the firstbits printed at all.. they are lasered (if i recall).

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https://casascius.uberbills.com/?address=18gkqUsh54DH9gHhLfka4rGrzf7ZQweZrn

The print looks very "strong" compared the other picture

Viz

Yeah...never seen any Casascius 2011 with print that dark. I have seen pics of a few 100 bars and none looked that dark.

Same.  Some additional pics of the hologram at different angles might help determine if it is a legitimate hologram or one of the Chinese knock offs that have become available for purchase.

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May 30, 2017, 03:45:37 PM
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https://casascius.uberbills.com/?address=18gkqUsh54DH9gHhLfka4rGrzf7ZQweZrn

The print looks very "strong" compared the other picture

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Yeah...never seen any Casascius 2011 with print that dark. I have seen pics of a few 100 bars and none looked that dark.

Same.  Some additional pics of the hologram at different angles might help determine if it is a legitimate hologram or one of the Chinese knock offs that have become available for purchase.

http://imgur.com/a/sxq1q

Here is an album for examination. Let me know what you think.

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May 30, 2017, 05:56:33 PM
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Does anyone know if the photos on uberbills are photoshopped? Because if you look

https://casascius.uberbills.com/?address=18gkqUsh54DH9gHhLfka4rGrzf7ZQweZrn

It shows a picture of the hologram, which is not bolded,
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Does anyone know if the photos on uberbills are photoshopped? Because if you look

https://casascius.uberbills.com/?address=18gkqUsh54DH9gHhLfka4rGrzf7ZQweZrn

It shows a picture of the hologram, which is not bolded,

Of course they are. It would be impossible to get scans from all of the holograms.....
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https://casascius.uberbills.com/?address=18gkqUsh54DH9gHhLfka4rGrzf7ZQweZrn

The print looks very "strong" compared the other picture

Viz

Yeah...never seen any Casascius 2011 with print that dark. I have seen pics of a few 100 bars and none looked that dark.

Same.  Some additional pics of the hologram at different angles might help determine if it is a legitimate hologram or one of the Chinese knock offs that have become available for purchase.

http://imgur.com/a/sxq1q

Here is an album for examination. Let me know what you think.

I am not foolish enough to pass judgement, but I suspect someone here that is familiar enough with what to look for to spot a fake would be able to tell from those pics.

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May 30, 2017, 07:59:25 PM
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Pics are too out of focus to pass judgment on the holo IMO. Looks suspect.

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Is it possible that the hologram on this coin and a few others would have more bold first bits if they're "the first off the printer"? I know it's more likely that the opposite be true, where text gets faded and lighter as ink runs out. But it's a thought to offer up.

One other option, maybe the bits were printed twice on this hologram, leading to the bolded effect.
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https://casascius.uberbills.com/?address=18gkqUsh54DH9gHhLfka4rGrzf7ZQweZrn

The print looks very "strong" compared the other picture

Viz

Yeah...never seen any Casascius 2011 with print that dark. I have seen pics of a few 100 bars and none looked that dark.

I agree. The owner of this says he got them all from Casascius in 2011, and did a copy/paste of the 'receipt' email. I dont think there is anything going on here, but can never be too careful with a 100 BTC coin.

That said, it appears that the bold bits make this bar unique. 1UP in price!

Of note is that the 500 & 1,000 btc bars dont have the firstbits printed at all.. they are lasered (if i recall).


I can't speak to the single Version 1 500 BTC. But the lone Version 2 500 BTC (redeemed) does have firstbits appearing on the outside.

Of the 5 1000 BTC bars...I'm certain that at least one of the two versions has firstbits on the exterior.

The bars were some of the first pieces...so it's very plausible Mike played with different formats, early on. Would be great to know definitively.


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The bars were some of the first pieces...so it's very plausible Mike played with different formats, early on. Would be great to know definitively.

I have contacted Mike.

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I have noticed lots of these for sale on behalf of others posts lately.  It begs the question...  In the event a seller sells someone a fraudulent coin on behalf of a 3rd party, what is the recourse there?

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May 30, 2017, 09:57:59 PM
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I have noticed lots of these for sale on behalf of others posts lately.  It begs the question...  In the event a seller sells someone a fraudulent coin on behalf of a 3rd party, what is the recourse there?

To expand on OgNasty's question.....Does coinfirm guarantee the authenticity of their many items for sale and if so how?   What due diligence does coinfirm do to verify authenticity?

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May 31, 2017, 12:40:50 AM
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Really need Mike to weigh in... I have held lots of Casascius coins with that hologram and printed first bits and none were like that at all. From the photos the holo looks legit, but need some real close up high res shots to be sure.
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May 31, 2017, 01:18:12 AM
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I don't think Mike can help with this.

Series 1 was inkjet printer.  So, he could have simply put in a new cartridge.

Of the bars I have seen, this picture looks like a very dark print; however, I have seen coins with such a dark print.  It is not out of the ordinary.

Also, the only way to know with better certainty is to have the person that own the only other active bar that was funded the same day.
That bar is:  18FAZLxJ

I am talking to someone now with S1 bars to post pictures, but already know they are funded earlier than the one in this auction/sale.

Basically, the darker print doesn't make it unique.  Just like lighter print doesn't make the others unique.  It's simply that it is a 100 BTC bar.

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