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May 30, 2017, 07:00:40 AM
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I don't think so it will work  Grin free money means the decrease in the value of money and so the trading and business will also go down. I just want to say not a good idea by MARK.

That is exactly what is going to happen. Once the supply of money increases, hyperinflation will follow and the prices of essential commodities will shoot up. The local currency will undergo devaluation, similar to what happened with the Venezuelan Bolivar.

The one possible scenario that might work is if people all get free money a little bit at a time. As they get their free money, if they want to work less, and if robots take up the slack, we might finally end up with full pay, and robots doing all the work for free. Of course, this would have to be implemented slowly, a little at a time.

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If it's really working, then people did get the money, just like you said, they will work less or maybe not even go to work, and worst scenario quit their daily job. It's not wrong, I admit that. Well yeah, but, you know what, when that time happens, will human be able to do their job like they usually did before robots takes over our everyday works? I don't think that's a good idea either.
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May 30, 2017, 07:02:45 AM
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That one really inspires me a lot. If mark thinks that way why cany we? Why cant our government?  I just hate the feeling that if you are too young or too old  the company says you cannot be hired.
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May 30, 2017, 07:49:48 AM
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What a pathetic attempt at virtue signaling. If Zuckerberg is serious about the universal basic income then it's time to put up or shut up! He's a billionaire, he could easily provide for several thousand people and have enough money to have a normal life Grin

These billionaires exploit the poor they do not help the poor.

It is true that the billionaires have no obligation to help the poor, but if the billionaires help the poor the world would be very different.


But what about natural selection?
Normaly this people would just die and vanish from the gene pool, but with universal income they will just procreate like rabbits/cockroaches/rats.
procreate like rabbits/cockroaches/rats..

So why did Germany invite more immigrants in if your so worried about population explosion ..?
You lowered your population but MAMA MERKEL  invited even more people to your nation..
And people that hate your kind Cheesy..

You will find the more money people have they will have less children 2 or 3 max..
Not 10 children to farm a field because they are so poor..

Also the UNIVERSAL INCOME pay...     1 man can only have 2 children and the same for a women..
You can have more but they wont get a universal income..

How do we do this ?

You take the DNA off the women and man and when they have a baby the babies DNA is also taken
then what happens is if a women has another baby you go to the data base and because you got the
child's DNA and the mothers DNA and the fathers DNA you will know if they have had more than 2 children..So that 3 rd child will not get a universal income..IT'S YOUR FAULT ..You knew the law..

You don't get the universal income until your 18 if in work 21 years old if in university ..

But your DNA is on the data base ready to pay you when you reach 18 if in work or 21 if in university..

Plus if you ever do a CRIME    everyone has got there DNA on a data base so can easy be caught ..

Keeps the planet low and 2 children is enough ..You can have more but they don't get a universal income if you have more than 2..

But if you make it in life who cares you would have as many as you like..
And also most humans could pursue there dreams and with practice because they will have the time
we will get better what ever..Because more time to practise makes you better at what ever you do..

UNIVERSAL INCOME FOR ALL ..IT WILL HAPPEN..OR WE DIE..


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May 30, 2017, 07:56:20 AM
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Also what you must think on is if robots take over and not many people making money the companies
are all sucking it up ..
Who will buy the goods not many    so not many computers sold for Zuckerberg means face book dies..
And cars and LIFE..
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May 30, 2017, 08:26:07 AM
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Mark Zuckerberg: Free Money for Everyone





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Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg gave the commencement address at Harvard for the Class of 2017, where he suggested a Universal Basic Income, meaning free money for everyone, so they could be creative and pursue their dreams. Media analyst Mark Dice has the story.


Mark Zuckerberg:
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How can we avail of those free money. I hope I was there so I can also get free money from Zuckerberg. But seriously his ideas are very perceptive as he is thinking to increase the productivity of the youth. Sometimes what limits our creativity are the lack of resources and funding for any projects that we want to accomplish.  Hope those youth that will receive free money will become productive.
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May 30, 2017, 02:32:37 PM
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I really can't complain. As someone who as experienced a certain period of what we can consider as "being poor", I don't see any drawbacks from where I am standing. (It's unlikely to happen in my country though)

I like the idea that one of the prerequisites is that you need to be of good moral standing with the community. And that there's still some exchange of service that you have to provide.

But it's easier said than done. Things like these take allot of process and people to actualize. It's a nice idea in my opinion - just a nice idea.
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May 30, 2017, 03:01:04 PM
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I really can't complain. As someone who as experienced a certain period of what we can consider as "being poor", I don't see any drawbacks from where I am standing. (It's unlikely to happen in my country though)

I like the idea that one of the prerequisites is that you need to be of good moral standing with the community. And that there's still some exchange of service that you have to provide.

But it's easier said than done. Things like these take allot of process and people to actualize. It's a nice idea in my opinion - just a nice idea.

The 4th Amendment says that we are secure in our "persons" among other things.

Many people would consider Zuck's handouts as benefits that were received, and could be the process for forced controlling of our lives by Government.

If I authorize usage of "my" SSN by one of my other person's, who is the one who accepts the free money, then Government doesn't control me, but only that person.

Would I feel guilty about accepting money Government sucked off of other people and gave to my person designated? Probably not. They simply didn't think about how they could have drawn up a new person, and let it be the one controlled by government, like I did, while it turns the funds it receives over to me, the man.

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May 30, 2017, 07:10:39 PM
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Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg gave the commencement address at Harvard for the Class of 2017, where he suggested a Universal Basic Income, meaning free money for everyone, so they could be creative and pursue their dreams. Media analyst Mark Dice has the story.


Mark Zuckerberg:
Free Money for Everyone -
"Universal Basic Income"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjHeggQFpYA



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How can we avail of those free money. I hope I was there so I can also get free money from Zuckerberg. But seriously his ideas are very perceptive as he is thinking to increase the productivity of the youth. Sometimes what limits our creativity are the lack of resources and funding for any projects that we want to accomplish.  Hope those youth that will receive free money will become productive.
Hope those youth that will receive free money will become productive..

So what about people who make money do they stop if they get a certain amount?..

Like the benefit system most would work on the side meaning work while claiming YES against the law it's why so many sit around..

But in the 1970s and 80s 90s many many worked and the sly because it was much easier to get away with..
But with a universal income you will still be able to get any job you want and still keep your universal income..

The ones that sit around on the benefits are the ones scared in case they loose that benefit if they get caught working..
So the government create lazy people..

Instead of saying everyone can keep the money then you watch the amount of people get off the BUMS..
Everyone likes more money we humans love to move and mix with people it's what we do..

Many many worked on the side in the 1970s Why because if wages are not to good you get benefits on top to pay rent and food giving you that little bit extra to buy your children good birthdays and Christmas presents and make them look good in clothes..

Not like you can go and buy a car or go on holiday just enough to pay extra bills and make sure your children get what they need
without other children giving your children abuse for what they wear ..

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May 31, 2017, 05:43:31 AM
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Also what you must think on is if robots take over and not many people making money the companies
are all sucking it up ..
Who will buy the goods not many    so not many computers sold for Zuckerberg means face book dies..
And cars and LIFE..

I remember the same arguments being published across the press two decades back, to scare people from using computers. But what happened in the end? Computers created more jobs than those which were lost. The same will happen this time also. Please be optimistic about the future.

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May 31, 2017, 06:41:06 AM
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Also what you must think on is if robots take over and not many people making money the companies
are all sucking it up ..
Who will buy the goods not many    so not many computers sold for Zuckerberg means face book dies..
And cars and LIFE..

I remember the same arguments being published across the press two decades back, to scare people from using computers. But what happened in the end? Computers created more jobs than those which were lost. The same will happen this time also. Please be optimistic about the future.

Its not about being optimistic or not for the future. Its about predicting fall out of game changing events. For example nuclear weapons while considered horrible by public - were effective deterrent of another world war by assurance of mutual destruction.

Similar unintended side effect might come with basic income, so it is very short sighted to be simply fan of it for the sake of "progress". What are the DOWNSIDES? Unless somebody here is able to quantify those and simulate its effects on future generation, then its prudent to stay cautious.

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May 31, 2017, 07:04:46 AM
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Tbh... he isnt rich until he can say "I will pay your public dept in cash if you dont give me to cort..." like Joca Amsterdam told Netherland, or if he ends up in prison then buy prison, and army like Pablo xD
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Tbh... he isnt rich until he can say "I will pay your public dept in cash if you dont give me to cort..." like Joca Amsterdam told Netherland, or if he ends up in prison then buy prison, and army like Pablo xD

Wether you like or yo should like it mark zuch is rich and in fact just in a short period of time he is now on the top 5 richest person in the world. Of course he ca do that the question is would he like to?
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May 31, 2017, 10:21:17 AM
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I don't think so it will work  Grin free money means the decrease in the value of money and so the trading and business will also go down. I just want to say not a good idea by MARK.

That is exactly what is going to happen. Once the supply of money increases, hyperinflation will follow and the prices of essential commodities will shoot up. The local currency will undergo devaluation, similar to what happened with the Venezuelan Bolivar.
You probably have forgotten the experience of the United Arab Emirates. There every citizen receives from the country's money on building a house, training and annual payments from the sale of oil. And there is no inflation. Why this is not possible in America?
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I don't think so it will work  Grin free money means the decrease in the value of money and so the trading and business will also go down. I just want to say not a good idea by MARK.

That is exactly what is going to happen. Once the supply of money increases, hyperinflation will follow and the prices of essential commodities will shoot up. The local currency will undergo devaluation, similar to what happened with the Venezuelan Bolivar.
You probably have forgotten the experience of the United Arab Emirates. There every citizen receives from the country's money on building a house, training and annual payments from the sale of oil. And there is no inflation. Why this is not possible in America?

Because America is not the United Arab Emirates. In America there is another culture, there is the capitalism which they want at all costs to prevail and I agree with that but only at a degree where people can go home right after their 8 hour shift turn. Bosses in America are different, they want to use their employees to their last drop of sweat, different in United Arab Emirates, they don't even work 8 hours because of the weather, when it is too hot they only work 2-3 hours a day. This stimulus the United Arab Emirates has been doing since some years now, has brought its benefits. Their welfare has increased much more than that of an American citizen. Why can't the world be a better place ? Probably because of greed in human beings.

What Zuckenberg is trying to do is just to attire attention now that the facebook shares are going down. It won't work.
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The idea of free money is literally not applicable.
Rather than free money, giving subsidy for education and healthcare are seems better.

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The idea of free money is literally not applicable.
Rather than free money, giving subsidy for education and healthcare are seems better.

ya i thinks of countries where education is free, im sure that pays off a bit better than just "free money" would Cheesy
I think Mark is just another person with too much money that wants to keep himself intresting (in his own head ;p )
Don't get me wrong i love free money who dosent but theres alot wrong with the idea haha.
Mainly that our society was built on capitalism, which imo would directly clash with this Universal Basic Income, will be interesting to watch and see where this idea ends up, prob will die a quiet death, noone just wanted to be the one to tell his rich-ass the idea is fucked Cheesy

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Man, he is an awful speaker.  His ideas, are, well, not even his ideas. it sounds like a salespitch for communism
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Mark Zuckerberg Keep up the work some people have no idea they been brain washed to hate giving the money away..
But it's funny how they socialise an AMERICAN PENSION Roll Eyes..

Oh i hate socialism ..

You say why should i pay for other people?..
So why should other people pay for your OLD ASS I.E PENSION..        you will get people say i pay my taxes Cheesy Cheesy..

So do i so we can have SOCIAL CARE..No different to your pensions..

HERE YOU GO ADD THIS UP..

HOW MUCH PENSION INCOME DO AMERICANS TYPICALLY RECEIVE? Among Americans aged 60 and older, in 2006 the average pension benefit was $15,784 per year, and the median benefit was $11,467 per year.

The average effective federal tax rate by income level, as a percentage of income. (Ex. If you make between $40,000 and $50,000 per year, you'll likely pay 11% of that in federal taxes).

WHAT IS 11% OF 50K Roll Eyes  Does it add up to 11 thousand dollars your lowest pension..ANSWER NO.

And because of you greedy yanks your old will suffer I.E maybe you everyone gets OLD..

US government $7 trillion pension shortfall - Business Insider
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6 Apr 2016 - The credit-rating agency Moody's says state, local, and federal governments are about $7 trillion short in funding coming pension payments.

I thinks the old of the world are DOOMED..WHY BECAUSE YOUR SHIT AT MATHS Cheesy Cheesy..

Government releases so much money every year if the few suck it all up the many suffer SIMPLE MATH.
sesame street maths ..

Maybe that's why TRUMP wont fund sesame street       in case you all learn to add up and work out how much your people get ROBBED by your greedy politicians ..

You pay taxes for what?..

I pay taxes so i get my money back in the form of police army roads schools hospitals and to help those that cannot work or have no work..

I do not pay taxes so some person so they can enjoy it for themselves I.E politicians ..

So what we as a people do is have a government to pay taxes to so the can REDISTRIBUTE all the money they collected from our people to buy the
things our people need..NOT SOME POLITICIAN and THE CRONIES..

We as a people make laws so people all pay a percentage of what they EARN to help our land thrive..
BUT some don't pay what everyone else pays..Meaning your land goes to SHIT..





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Wrong^^^^^. We as a people don't do much of anything. And certainly, we as a people don't tax ourselves.


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Wrong^^^^^. We as a people don't do much of anything. And certainly, we as a people don't tax ourselves.


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WHAT ? so why do i pay someone out my wages? in the form of TAX..

In the UK we cannot FART without getting taxed..

we as a people don't tax ourselves.  SO WHY DOES EVERYONE say well i don't want my taxes payed to this?..

Just you are a TIT BRAIN Cheesy Cheesy..God made you a DICK
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