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May 05, 2013, 03:11:02 PM |
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oh! i know a method that can achieve this! its called "a gun to the head"-method, and it work incredible when there is no one that restricts the usage of guns.
you really dont think in the absence of government that people would purchase protection against this sort of thing? i mean people pay for cable tv and you dont think they would be willing to pay someone to protect them from being shot in the head? |
Rep Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=381041If one can not confer upon another a right which he does not himself first possess, by what means does the state derive the right to engage in behaviors from which the public is prohibited? |
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myrkul
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May 05, 2013, 03:12:09 PM |
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you cant "take out" your competition in a free market. It will be instantly replaced by new competition. The only way you can "take out" the competition is if you can keep out new competition. There is no mechanism that i am aware of for doing this other than the state.
oh! i know a method that can achieve this! its called "a gun to the head"-method, and it work incredible when there is no one that restricts the usage of guns. Haven't thought that one through, have you? there is less gun violence here in the stupid and evil state of Denmark. I have less chance of getting shot then you. A lower chance of getting shot just increases the chances you will be assaulted with another weapon. Such as a knife. Or a bat. And you still haven't answered my question. |
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May 05, 2013, 03:16:43 PM |
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you cant "take out" your competition in a free market. It will be instantly replaced by new competition. The only way you can "take out" the competition is if you can keep out new competition. There is no mechanism that i am aware of for doing this other than the state.
oh! i know a method that can achieve this! its called "a gun to the head"-method, and it work incredible when there is no one that restricts the usage of guns. Haven't thought that one through, have you? there is less gun violence here in the stupid and evil state of Denmark. I have less chance of getting shot then you. A lower chance of getting shot just increases the chances you will be assaulted with another weapon. Such as a knife. Or a bat. proof please. And you still haven't answered my question.
yes, i have thought it through. |
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves and wiser people so full of doubts." -Bertrand Russell
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myrkul
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May 05, 2013, 03:25:14 PM |
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A lower chance of getting shot just increases the chances you will be assaulted with another weapon. Such as a knife. Or a bat.
proof please. . And you still haven't answered my question.
yes, i have thought it through. Evidently not, if you think that no restrictions on guns means that pulling a gun to enforce your opinion will work better, rather than worse. |
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May 05, 2013, 04:26:42 PM |
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A lower chance of getting shot just increases the chances you will be assaulted with another weapon. Such as a knife. Or a bat.
proof please. . just saying... And you still haven't answered my question.
yes, i have thought it through. Evidently not, if you think that no restrictions on guns means that pulling a gun to enforce your opinion will work better, rather than worse. it always works in the movies...  |
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves and wiser people so full of doubts." -Bertrand Russell
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May 05, 2013, 04:30:32 PM |
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And you still haven't answered my question.
yes, i have thought it through. Evidently not, if you think that no restrictions on guns means that pulling a gun to enforce your opinion will work better, rather than worse. it always works in the movies... How well when both sides have guns? |
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May 05, 2013, 04:32:50 PM |
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And you still haven't answered my question.
yes, i have thought it through. Evidently not, if you think that no restrictions on guns means that pulling a gun to enforce your opinion will work better, rather than worse. it always works in the movies... How well when both sides have guns? good too, but in the movies its always the good guys that wins. in reality i would say that its 50/50, which sucks. |
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves and wiser people so full of doubts." -Bertrand Russell
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May 05, 2013, 04:40:04 PM |
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good too, but in the movies its always the good guys that wins. in reality i would say that its 50/50, which sucks.
OK, let's take that assumption. In an armed conflict, the good guys win half the time, the bad guys win the other half. Do you think that there are more bad guys, or good? |
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May 05, 2013, 04:42:33 PM |
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good too, but in the movies its always the good guys that wins. in reality i would say that its 50/50, which sucks.
OK, let's take that assumption. In an armed conflict, the good guys win half the time, the bad guys win the other half. Do you think that there are more bad guys, or good? mostly egotistic idiots. |
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves and wiser people so full of doubts." -Bertrand Russell
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myrkul
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May 05, 2013, 04:48:47 PM |
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good too, but in the movies its always the good guys that wins. in reality i would say that its 50/50, which sucks.
OK, let's take that assumption. In an armed conflict, the good guys win half the time, the bad guys win the other half. Do you think that there are more bad guys, or good? mostly egotistic idiots. Do you think that there are more bad guys, or good? |
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May 05, 2013, 04:54:28 PM |
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good too, but in the movies its always the good guys that wins. in reality i would say that its 50/50, which sucks.
OK, let's take that assumption. In an armed conflict, the good guys win half the time, the bad guys win the other half. Do you think that there are more bad guys, or good? mostly egotistic idiots. Do you think that there are more bad guys, or good? most bad. |
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves and wiser people so full of doubts." -Bertrand Russell
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myrkul
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May 05, 2013, 04:57:59 PM |
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good too, but in the movies its always the good guys that wins. in reality i would say that its 50/50, which sucks.
OK, let's take that assumption. In an armed conflict, the good guys win half the time, the bad guys win the other half. Do you think that there are more bad guys, or good? mostly egotistic idiots. Do you think that there are more bad guys, or good? most bad. Then how can you support the state, given how likely it is that "bad" people will gain positions of power, and oppress the "good" minority? |
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May 05, 2013, 05:01:29 PM |
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good too, but in the movies its always the good guys that wins. in reality i would say that its 50/50, which sucks.
OK, let's take that assumption. In an armed conflict, the good guys win half the time, the bad guys win the other half. Do you think that there are more bad guys, or good? mostly egotistic idiots. Do you think that there are more bad guys, or good? most bad. Then how can you support the state, given how likely it is that "bad" people will gain positions of power, and oppress the "good" minority? democracy. |
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves and wiser people so full of doubts." -Bertrand Russell
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May 05, 2013, 05:08:34 PM |
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Then how can you support the state, given how likely it is that "bad" people will gain positions of power, and oppress the "good" minority?
democracy. So, you want to guarantee that the "bad" majority will oppress the "good" minority? |
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May 05, 2013, 05:20:00 PM |
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Then how can you support the state, given how likely it is that "bad" people will gain positions of power, and oppress the "good" minority?
democracy. So, you want to guarantee that the "bad" majority will oppress the "good" minority? can't beat them, join them. |
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves and wiser people so full of doubts." -Bertrand Russell
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May 05, 2013, 05:21:38 PM |
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Then how can you support the state, given how likely it is that "bad" people will gain positions of power, and oppress the "good" minority?
democracy. So, you want to guarantee that the "bad" majority will oppress the "good" minority? can't beat them, join them. In other words, you include yourself in that "bad" majority. |
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May 05, 2013, 05:23:55 PM |
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Then how can you support the state, given how likely it is that "bad" people will gain positions of power, and oppress the "good" minority?
democracy. So, you want to guarantee that the "bad" majority will oppress the "good" minority? can't beat them, join them. In other words, you include yourself in that "bad" majority. and it would then be "good". |
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves and wiser people so full of doubts." -Bertrand Russell
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May 05, 2013, 05:25:33 PM
Last edit: May 05, 2013, 05:48:12 PM by myrkul |
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Then how can you support the state, given how likely it is that "bad" people will gain positions of power, and oppress the "good" minority?
democracy. So, you want to guarantee that the "bad" majority will oppress the "good" minority? can't beat them, join them. In other words, you include yourself in that "bad" majority. and it would then be "good".  So now you're part of the "good" majority. Since most people are "good," and the odds of winning a fight are equal between the "good" and "bad," What problem do you have with arming everyone? |
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May 05, 2013, 09:27:11 PM |
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Then how can you support the state, given how likely it is that "bad" people will gain positions of power, and oppress the "good" minority?
democracy. So, you want to guarantee that the "bad" majority will oppress the "good" minority? can't beat them, join them. In other words, you include yourself in that "bad" majority. and it would then be "good". So now you're part of the "good" majority. Since most people are "good," and the odds of winning a fight are equal between the "good" and "bad," What problem do you have with arming everyone? i don't like bad people to have guns, they are much harder to kill if they have them. |
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves and wiser people so full of doubts." -Bertrand Russell
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May 05, 2013, 09:32:00 PM |
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Then how can you support the state, given how likely it is that "bad" people will gain positions of power, and oppress the "good" minority?
democracy. So, you want to guarantee that the "bad" majority will oppress the "good" minority? can't beat them, join them. In other words, you include yourself in that "bad" majority. and it would then be "good". So now you're part of the "good" majority. Since most people are "good," and the odds of winning a fight are equal between the "good" and "bad," What problem do you have with arming everyone? i don't like bad people to have guns, they are much harder to kill if they have them. True, but so are good people, and bad people tend to get guns regardless of laws against them. Since bad people are going to be armed, anyway, don't you think the good guys should be, too? |
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