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May 27, 2017, 06:07:52 PM Last edit: May 29, 2017, 07:32:37 AM by jonnytracker |
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http://www.cryptosurge.xyzCRYPTO SURGE We will be choosing coin to pump by proof of fair coin selection.
we choose coins using proof of selection method like fair pumps.
That is,We give list of around 8 coins. Coinlist is uploaded to a password protected pastebin now. Password is announced when countdown stops. This way we prevent prebuying the whole coinlist by people guessing the coin to pump, which harms the whole pumping process in general. As pastebin can’t be edited by anyone after its upload, it’s still fair randomized coin selection.
Even admins of pump group can not judge which coin will be pumped, as only one coin will be selected by using doge block method.
Now some of @channel members must be guessing whats doge block method!
The coin of interest will be publicy randomized based on a predefined future blockchain hash. A target block hash will be defined 20 minutes before pump starts. The target hash’s first character will determine coin to pump according to the coin list. As no one predict block hashes, no one is able to prebuy coins before the official coin announcement. This results in same chances for everyone participating in the pump, keeping it all as fair as possible. So we are actually using fairpumps.net method. Difference is, we dont prebuy, and let the community profit max as they can.
But unlike http://fairpumps.net/, we charge nothing, and we will keep it that way, no charges for anything.http://www.cryptosurge.xyz
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May 27, 2017, 06:20:42 PM |
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You know artificial pumping doesn't work right? especially not in these public groups, where you ( the pumper ) are subject to the operators of the group, which only want your money. P&D doesn't work, because the market won't join you in your pump, and you'll become a bagholder, and your sellers ( which are most likely the admins of the pump group ) are the ones making the money. It dumps faster then it pumps most of the time due to a lack of adoption of the market.
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May 27, 2017, 06:25:29 PM |
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Just to add to the last post which is spot on: you do know this is completely illegal right? So why not just go steal some money from a convenience store? It'll probably be easier than this and pay off more. (I'm not saying you should. I'm just saying they're both crimes so why bother going though this trouble to commit a crime that you probably won't even be either from?)
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May 28, 2017, 12:00:53 AM |
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With such grups you are chaising tail. and only leader of pump is getting hard cash rest most likely will sponsor his earnngs. You will most likely loose money there.
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May 28, 2017, 01:43:28 AM |
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With such grups you are chaising tail. and only leader of pump is getting hard cash rest most likely will sponsor his earnngs. You will most likely loose money there.
That's correct. Rarely a public pump group works in the long-term. Mainly because the manager of the group which usually is the guy who starts the pumps, probably has already bought amounts of the selected currency and will always try to profit from the new users and beginners mistakes. I can speak of this from my own experience because I was already part of a group like this, and it never worked well. The best way to organize an artificial pump is with a private group of whales that own a large amount of BTC, and are willing to allow the whole group to profit, controlling their greed to avoid disasters.
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May 28, 2017, 09:23:10 AM |
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With such grups you are chaising tail. and only leader of pump is getting hard cash rest most likely will sponsor his earnngs. You will most likely loose money there.
Avoid the risk of losing your money. There should be testimonials to prove this site is working properly or not. Being cautious is better than carelessness. No success without a good learning process. Just enjoy the process and the results certainly will not disappoint. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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May 28, 2017, 12:33:22 PM |
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With such grups you are chaising tail. and only leader of pump is getting hard cash rest most likely will sponsor his earnngs. You will most likely loose money there.
That's correct. Rarely a public pump group works in the long-term. Mainly because the manager of the group which usually is the guy who starts the pumps, probably has already bought amounts of the selected currency and will always try to profit from the new users and beginners mistakes. I can speak of this from my own experience because I was already part of a group like this, and it never worked well. The best way to organize an artificial pump is with a private group of whales that own a large amount of BTC, and are willing to allow the whole group to profit, controlling their greed to avoid disasters. Yep, with public groups there are always some guys which step out early, causing everything to crash down, since FUD will trigger them. I've never made any profit of these P&Ds. It is a complete waste of money. Just to add to the last post which is spot on: you do know this is completely illegal right? So why not just go steal some money from a convenience store? It'll probably be easier than this and pay off more. (I'm not saying you should. I'm just saying they're both crimes so why bother going though this trouble to commit a crime that you probably won't even be either from?)
Is it illegal to pump a coin, or is the recruiting illegal? Free market right?
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jonnytracker (OP)
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May 28, 2017, 12:40:36 PM |
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Pump group isnt illegal. Some people dont like it from bad experience.
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May 28, 2017, 01:09:20 PM |
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With such grups you are chaising tail. and only leader of pump is getting hard cash rest most likely will sponsor his earnngs. You will most likely loose money there.
Avoid the risk of losing your money. There should be testimonials to prove this site is working properly or not. Being cautious is better than carelessness. No success without a good learning process. Just enjoy the process and the results certainly will not disappoint. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Testimonials eh? Testimonials can be easily manipulated – you can buy a guy or two to write some positive shit about your service. When I see very positive testimonials on any service (that seem to be paid), I know for sure it's a scam. Testimonials don't prove anything. Pump group isnt illegal. Some people dont like it from bad experience.
Yes, it isn't illegal, and it's widely spread, but greed makes such groups always fail. I have been into one, but didn't really work out – you can't resist a free market.
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May 28, 2017, 01:58:47 PM |
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Pumping and dumping don't just happen out of nothing or mere wishful thinking, there is always a strong capital base behind it to be able to bring that change in price even against the tide, so the question begging for answer is, how well capitalized are you and your group to think you people could possibly offset a market?
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May 28, 2017, 04:16:11 PM |
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I once belong to a private P&D group, and our strategy is we create our own kick-ass roadmap, get our developer in touch with the community and present some "angel" investors to the coin. Most of the time, it is a success, and to be frank I'm one of the first sellers when I know it's on its peak. I left the group and never went online since after gaining some profits off of them tards. It won't work since people won't buy in UNLESS you create a new promising coin.
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May 28, 2017, 04:40:45 PM |
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We will be choosing coin to pump by proof of fair coin selection.
Don't say you will choose doge block to determine coin to pump. I have very bad experience with http://fairpumps.net/ before which also have same system and I hope you will be quite better than them. Many normal traders who do manual trading will get squeezed between automatic bots when pump starts and pump ends within 30 second WTF ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif)
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May 28, 2017, 06:05:06 PM |
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You would be right...But this is not a market governed by SEC. So it is quite legal ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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May 29, 2017, 04:25:07 AM |
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You would be right...But this is not a market governed by SEC. So it is quite legal ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Not to mention, Cryptocurrency is not regulated by any government. It is a decentralized market. this type of thing is completely legal here. Normal laws that apply to stock markets do not apply to cryptocurrency markets.
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May 29, 2017, 08:43:40 AM |
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I do agreed that on this kind of a group, they also give a little information about the value so I don't see any wrong with it, in fact I can considered it as legal anyway.
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May 29, 2017, 08:55:18 AM |
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Just to add to the last post which is spot on: you do know this is completely illegal right? So why not just go steal some money from a convenience store? It'll probably be easier than this and pay off more. (I'm not saying you should. I'm just saying they're both crimes so why bother going though this trouble to commit a crime that you probably won't even be either from?)
Oh really? Didn't know this was illegal. Though when you see the number of pump and dump groups there is no doubt they actually make money. I mean otherwise there wouldn't be so many groups! However I don't think it's a good idea to listen to those groups... THe only good point though is that they pump coins that you may have been holding for long. I welcome everything that will take those bags from me I'm holding for far too long xD
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May 29, 2017, 03:19:26 PM |
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Pump group isnt illegal. Some people dont like it from bad experience.
My brother fell victim to the pump group, I agree. This is a game of someone who harnesses the frustrated people. Do not believe.
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May 29, 2017, 03:24:05 PM |
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Pump group isnt illegal. Some people dont like it from bad experience.
My brother fell victim to the pump group, I agree. This is a game of someone who harnesses the frustrated people. Do not believe. Pump group? is a shame. dont go in.
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May 29, 2017, 11:05:02 PM |
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I'd avoid these pump groups because by the time it starts pumping, they are already dumping on you. They own the coin way before they announce it in the pump groups.
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