Germany to stop intelligence sharing with USA?

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german opposition leader says trump is a risk for security and wants to halt any information exchange with us intelligence services
how do you think mayor us services are going to react? stopp sharing infos with germany?

http://www.zeit.de/politik/ausland/2017-05/donald-trump-thomas-oppermann-geheimdienste-zusammenarbeit

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[Lieldoryn]

To stop the exchange of confidential data not only want the Germans. It spoke English once in America, published the secret pictures of the explosive device used in Manchester. Even the FBI and the CIA do not give all the secret data to the Trump team. Perhaps Trump is a disgrace to America.

[leademepls]

It's a bit surprising they haven't done this already. I think the scandals with wiretapping German officials a few years ago should have been more than enough for the Germans to stop relations with US intelligence services.

[Mometaskers]

Well guess what, European countries are more in need of "tips". They're the ones having immigrants coming in to their country. They're the ones who have Muslim citizens go fight for ISIS who are now coming back for even more terrible deeds. Forget about Trump, they need all the information they need to prevent another Manchester or Nice happening again.

Or have they gotten used to it? Do they finally considered it a "fact of life in living in a city"?

[otrkid70]

With the way things are unfolding in Washington i'm not surprised if they do.

[joebrook]

german opposition leader says trump is a risk for security and wants to halt any information exchange with us intelligence services
how do you think mayor us services are going to react? stopp sharing infos with germany?

http://www.zeit.de/politik/ausland/2017-05/donald-trump-thomas-oppermann-geheimdienste-zusammenarbeit

I think the obvious choice, Trump had shown himself to be a talkative and will quickly snitch to the Russians as soon as he can. Germany have no obligation to share Intel with the USA.

[CriptoSven]

german opposition leader says trump is a risk for security and wants to halt any information exchange with us intelligence services
how do you think mayor us services are going to react? stopp sharing infos with germany?

http://www.zeit.de/politik/ausland/2017-05/donald-trump-thomas-oppermann-geheimdienste-zusammenarbeit

I think the obvious choice, Trump had shown himself to be a talkative and will quickly snitch to the Russians as soon as he can. Germany have no obligation to share Intel with the USA.

Of course, all political relations will depend only on what kind of people will be in power. Of course we already have one candidate and this is Donald Trump who is not a very super good politician but at the same time we still do not know who will replace Angel Merkel for the next years of the government in Germany. Union of course is still very bad.

[bartolo]

-It is a request from the leader of the opposition, does not mean that the German government will take this measure.
-Secret services share information but not ALL information.
-There are things that the secret services know thanks to the espionage, they spy to the enemies and also to the allies.
-The exchange of information is like a trade, I give you what you want if you give me what I want.
-The relationship between the secret services of Germany and the United States will stay the same.

[Lancusters]

Each day of  stay Trump as President of America does more harm than all the terrorists combined. Merkel today visited Munich in preparation for the elections. "The days when we could rely on each other is over. In the last days I clearly realized this," said Merkel. Angela Merkel sees in the United States during the presidency of Donald trump as a reliable partner and urges Europeans to unite. This means that the USA lost to Europe as its ally. Can America be alone. To save America, maybe just impeachment.

[Marma Kalari]

Looks like no one expected Trump to be the president of America and now it is hurting them back because he might be first president of America who does not have the power to control everything like the ones in the past,he is ridiculed and i think is actions are more to be blamed for this situation as he gave the impression that he is not a stable individual with stable thoughts,poor Trump.

[Sithara007]

They didn't had any issue when Obama ordered Merkel's phone calls to be tapped. But they are going ballistic now, just because Donald Trump has become the president of the United States. 

[Spendulus]

Each day of  stay Trump as President of America does more harm than all the terrorists combined. Merkel today ....

Who do you think you are fooling?

[AleSergio]

Each day of  stay Trump as President of America does more harm than all the terrorists combined. Merkel today visited Munich in preparation for the elections. "The days when we could rely on each other is over. In the last days I clearly realized this," said Merkel. Angela Merkel sees in the United States during the presidency of Donald trump as a reliable partner and urges Europeans to unite. This means that the USA lost to Europe as its ally. Can America be alone. To save America, maybe just impeachment.

I guess its not only Trump who does a lot of harm in the world. It`s just USA politics... Who are we kiding comon - politics of dominance

[coolcoinz]

They didn't had any issue when Obama ordered Merkel's phone calls to be tapped. But they are going ballistic now, just because Donald Trump has become the president of the United States. 

I wouldn't worry. Germany is soon going to have a civil war with migrants, so it's even better for the US that they threw a tantrum. They won't ask for help when shit hits the fan.
Trump won't need Germany in Korea if he decides to overthrow Kim, but Germany could really use a hand with terrorists.

[gentlemand]

As it stands there are numerous examples of the US government's untrustworthiness, all the Russian rumblings, the Manchester bombing data, the tapping of German communications, Donny's ongoing hostility against his own intelligence apparatus, so it's not in their interest to share vital information unless they buck up. I wouldn't. 

[Okurkabinladin]

german opposition leader says trump is a risk for security and wants to halt any information exchange with us intelligence services
how do you think mayor us services are going to react? stopp sharing infos with germany?

http://www.zeit.de/politik/ausland/2017-05/donald-trump-thomas-oppermann-geheimdienste-zusammenarbeit

No, just stop.

During Obamas reign and thanks to wikileaks, public could finally see, that US is spying on its allies, effectively commiting industrial espionage.

What happened? Nothing at all.

Teflon Merkel merely stated, that friends shouldnt spy on friends. Bla, bla, bla, bussiness as usual.

This is just another half retarded attempt to somehow destabilize current administration of United States (thats quite unpopular among regressive left). Germany is not sovereign country and unless Americans start droping nukes on it, it wont change. Empty threats.

[Prohodimec]

german opposition leader says trump is a risk for security and wants to halt any information exchange with us intelligence services
how do you think mayor us services are going to react? stopp sharing infos with germany?

http://www.zeit.de/politik/ausland/2017-05/donald-trump-thomas-oppermann-geheimdienste-zusammenarbeit

No, just stop.

During Obamas reign and thanks to wikileaks, public could finally see, that US is spying on its allies, effectively commiting industrial espionage.

What happened? Nothing at all.

Teflon Merkel merely stated, that friends shouldnt spy on friends. Bla, bla, bla, bussiness as usual.

This is just another half retarded attempt to somehow destabilize current administration of United States (thats quite unpopular among regressive left). Germany is not sovereign country and unless Americans start droping nukes on it, it wont change. Empty threats.

I think it is very unfounded to say that America can use nuclear weapons to the countries of the Allies. This is not only empty threats but also nonsense. We are not yet sure how the US will cope with North Korea.

[Okurkabinladin]

german opposition leader says trump is a risk for security and wants to halt any information exchange with us intelligence services
how do you think mayor us services are going to react? stopp sharing infos with germany?

http://www.zeit.de/politik/ausland/2017-05/donald-trump-thomas-oppermann-geheimdienste-zusammenarbeit

No, just stop.

During Obamas reign and thanks to wikileaks, public could finally see, that US is spying on its allies, effectively commiting industrial espionage.

What happened? Nothing at all.

Teflon Merkel merely stated, that friends shouldnt spy on friends. Bla, bla, bla, bussiness as usual.

This is just another half retarded attempt to somehow destabilize current administration of United States (thats quite unpopular among regressive left). Germany is not sovereign country and unless Americans start droping nukes on it, it wont change. Empty threats.

I think it is very unfounded to say that America can use nuclear weapons to the countries of the Allies. This is not only empty threats but also nonsense. We are not yet sure how the US will cope with North Korea.

I am aware, that the irony might not be clear for everybody. I did not say, United States will use nukes - please, you can leave your fallout shelter. I said, that unless Americans did something THAT horrible, intelligence sharing with their satellites will not stop.

There were far more serious instances of trust breach, Trumps mouth is next to kids play to it. Angela Merkel let it slide. By the way, Germany while for unknown reason being afraid of its own nuclear power plants also hosts largest stockpile of US nuclear payloads outside of United States. And also largest military base outside of United States (perhaps with Okinawa, I did not count all those little green men). What does that tell you? Do you see protests in streets?

NSA spied on Germany for decades primarily for industrial espionage, this was eventually acknowledged by authorities to be true, yet nothing changed:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jul/08/nsa-tapped-german-chancellery-decades-wikileaks-claims-merkel


US air base Rammstein hosts 60 000 US service men. Nuclear weapons are also present:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramstein_Air_Base

So, to be clear. This entire ruse is another demented attempt at making current administration untrustworthy. Not to Germans, since those are docile and have been for very long time. To the majority of voters in United States. If you noticed, US foreign policy in the past decade or so is not dictated by actual threats but by its impact on domestic public.

[Sithara007]

No, just stop.

During Obamas reign and thanks to wikileaks, public could finally see, that US is spying on its allies, effectively commiting industrial espionage.

What happened? Nothing at all.

Teflon Merkel merely stated, that friends shouldnt spy on friends. Bla, bla, bla, bussiness as usual.

Merkel realizes that Germany is just a colony of the United States. So she has no complaints about the phone tapping incident. She has more important things to take care of, for example the import of millions of Muslim immigrants to Germany.